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Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by amakenny: 12:41pm On Jun 27, 2016
EYIMICHAEL:
PYD.......Pay Your Debt




Common Sense Debtor.


Only active on twitter

Senator Ben Bruce has joined the Eaters Club, Eaters who don't give a fcuck over what evil the more than 100 years experiment on ONE Nigeria has visited upon the 170 million people in Nigeria.
Don't blame Bruce, he must have acquired Abuja mansions, so the despised south south and south east can go to hell as far as he is concerned.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by AreaFada2: 12:44pm On Jun 27, 2016
Nigerians suffer enormous shocks everyday trying to feed their family, dig borehole, pay school fees, to buy fuel for gen and car/motorcylce, manoeuvre bad roads, etc.

Which other shock is Bruce talking of again? shocked shocked

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Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 12:56pm On Jun 27, 2016
What of the AMCON debt ?
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by linearity: 12:56pm On Jun 27, 2016
wayodude:


The UK, i.e an abbreviation of 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland' is not a nation? Please enlighten us on how you have reached this suspiciously stupid conclusion?

The U.K. is made up of four unitary sovereign nations aka countries called: England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

It is fool headed to refer to the U.K. as a nation (singular), without noting the integral internal sovereign states...and if you mentioned the plural, then his assumptions would have been wrong as Scotland did not vote to pull out and Brexit vote is not binding on Scotland.

In fact the parliament in each of the four sovereign nations must vote to approve a pull out before article 50 can be invoked and any one of the sovereign nations can veto the pullout, plus Scotland also want to vote to pull out of U.K.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by amakenny: 1:03pm On Jun 27, 2016
cckris:
Distinguished Senator Murray, grandson of a great Scottish man that CHOSE to become Nigerian, your job as a Senator is to RESTRUCTURE NIGERIA, into a FUNCTIONAL POLITICAL ENTITY, or be assured that break-up of Nigeria is inevitable. One year done pass o!

Senator Bruce and Senators from the south of Nigeria cannot afford to get northern Senators to effect a political restructuring of Nigeria as presently structured and governed.
Because of the undue large number of legislators which north that enjoys the present structure has in the National Assembly. Northern Nigeria soldiers wrongly used land mass as criterion to proliferate undue large number of states (19 states+Abuja) and hundreds of local government areas in the once one northern region, but left only 17 states in the once two southern regions. In Mathematical terms, one gave rise to 20; but two gave rise to only 17.

That fraudulent political structure sealed Nigeria as an estate of northern Nigeria politicians who must use north's political over-representation to determine whatever can be in Nigeria.

If the Ben Bruce political leaders from the south of Nigeria go against the design of northern Nigeria politicians, they are either filtered out of Nigeria's political process or bribed by northern Nigeria politicians with cash or with Abuja mansions.


Abuja with no industry of repute has its landed property extraordinarily exorbitant because of artificial values built in them, because rest of Nigeria outside Lagos are less attractive to live in. Bruce's Niger delta area is worse. The Bruces of the Niger delta region are expected to be at the forefront of those asking for dissolution of dysfunctional Nigeria which cannot be restructured again in a democracy, but here's Bruce wit fear mongering.

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Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 1:06pm On Jun 27, 2016
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Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by freetongue(m): 1:09pm On Jun 27, 2016
Sorry to say, Senator, this is an act of daftness....First, Britain is not experiencing economic hardship. The fall in pounds after the referendum is normal based on globalization and investors fear. Moreover, EU is not a nation. Will Scotland experience hardship? Is South Sudan experiencing hardship that North Sudan is not experiencing? What about Slovakia? What about Czech, etc.....Senator, stop comparing nation breaking up with Nation existing an organization of Nations. So Norway and Canada are suffering for not being a member of their region organization?


Rubbish. Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa will be greater than Nigeria, if we all break up. Do you know the importance of a nation with cultural homogeneity especially language and ethnicity? Do you know how ethnical suspicious undermine development, political and economical? Do you know how region that value formal education and another that value islamic education yet,the latter, favoured with bias population in the same nation with rubbish quota system undermine development? Have you heard of religion or ethnic crisis in Ghana?

The Nigeria today favour the political elites especially the Northern elites.


......but Yoruba and Igbo(Southern Nigeria)can be one back sha grin

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Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by mekonglobal(m): 1:22pm On Jun 27, 2016
quid:

Is el-dullardeen aware of this ?
gringringringringringringrin U guys will not kill me in dis country...Is dat his latest name now? Oh Buhari Oh buhari..
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 1:24pm On Jun 27, 2016
mekonglobal:

gringringringringringringrin U guys will not kill me in dis country...Is dat his latest name now? Oh Buhari Oh buhari..
How you see the latest name ? cheesy cheesy

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Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by amakenny: 1:28pm On Jun 27, 2016
omowolewa:
The person that prepared the unity formula is a genius. So hard to break


Loooool, Genius.

Hold the Evil Genius, Ibrahim Babangida, followed by late Sani Abacha;
these two northern military dictators created the formula that made Nigeria near-impossible to break.

Because those two northern military dictators created the last batch of states which resulted in proliferation of undue large number of states in northern Nigeria.

And the 19 new states and Abuja with hundreds of local government areas in the north, the north draws undue large political over-representation to hold Nigeria tightly in a democracy; as northern politicians also smile to the banks every federal allocations day.


Another northern dictator, Abdusallam Abubakar, dusted the 1999 constitution supervised by northern dictators to legitimize the fraudulent political structure.
Abubakar imposed the constitution upon Nigeria through Obasanjo who northern dictators hand-picked from prison to become Nigeria's president in 1999.

Evil geniuses!! But they used the guns to be geniuses.

The short-changed south south and south east regions must FREE their regions and their peoples from the quasi enslavement in Nigeria designed by the EVIL geniuses of northern Nigeria.

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Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by wayodude(m): 1:41pm On Jun 27, 2016
linearity:


The U.K. is made up of four unitary sovereign nations aka countries called: England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Are you implying that Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland today is are sovereign states? Really?

linearity:
It is fool headed to refer to the U.K. as a nation (singular), without noting the integral internal sovereign states

Does this mean that the words printed in front of the British passport which refers to the UK in singular is fool headed?

linearity:

...and if you mentioned the plural, then his assumptions would have been wrong as Scotland did not vote to pull out and Brexit vote is not binding on Scotland.

You get liver o. Even Nicola Sturgeon did not go as far as saying Brexit vote was not binding on Scotland. If it is not binding what is it, a recommendation? lol


linearity:

In fact the parliament in each of the four sovereign nations must vote to approve a pull out before article 50 can be invoked and any one of the sovereign nations can veto the pullout, plus Scotland also want to vote to pull out of U.K.

Even though I am a Brit and more affected by this than many as i live and work in the EU, I have not read and will not read article 50, i'll leave that to the politicians who's views will be taken on board rather than waste my time doing that. Having said that I cannot argue with fact on if this claim you have made is right or wrong but I certainly think it is wrong to assume that any one of the constituent countries of the UK can veto this referendum result.

Apologies to all as we have gone off the topic of this thread but it is good to have a random debate sometimes wink
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by nwatiti(m): 1:46pm On Jun 27, 2016
look at this frustrated saboteur,go and pay ur debt,wat has the poor masses gained from this contraption ur better off in Nigeria not everyone I think zombies pay u groundnut fee that's y
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by grandstar(m): 1:59pm On Jun 27, 2016
I think his dad was Scot.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by 2ts: 2:13pm On Jun 27, 2016
This guy suppose be Donald Trump running m8. When will he learn to keep quiet and not vomit thrash online.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by lifecoach1: 2:41pm On Jun 27, 2016
WOW!
You just have to see this! It will change your life....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuNsYVqNHyw
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 2:42pm On Jun 27, 2016
The only thing that can stop the inevitable break up of Nigeria is if God's Kingdom comes before it.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by greatwhite(m): 2:42pm On Jun 27, 2016
Nigeria's unity is underated. Until we value it we can't fight for it. No one wants to fight for something that has no benefit. The 2016 nigeria is of value to the senator. That is why he is fighting for it. Can we say the same about an average nigerian? So honorable senator Bruce let ur next tweet be from your voice box in the senate. You would make more uncommon sense there. God bless u sir
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by OgbuefiNegro: 2:52pm On Jun 27, 2016
If it wasn't under the cloak of corruption and fake ONE NIGERIA where would a name like Ben Bruce be a Senator or own Silverbird? These beneficiaries of the system do not want regionalism. Ordinarily, this man would not be a household name in a Delta Regional Government.

People like Obasanjo, who will he be in a Yoruba Regional government? A nobody! So they prop unitary ONE NATION to further their grasp on relevance.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by Krank: 2:59pm On Jun 27, 2016
Ben Bruce is still talking? He knows how to govern a nation, but he cannot govern his own business. How ironic! smh.
Talk is cheap. He should go and sit down and keep quiet, biko!
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by Olakunlae: 3:27pm On Jun 27, 2016
Horlufemi:
I feel we should disengage and form a united Nigeria. Something close to UK.

Even Ireland and Scotland want to leave UK... U r saying Nigeria should be like them... Ur proposed cannot even work
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 4:11pm On Jun 27, 2016
The common sense dilector has spoken..
Where else in the world, would you owe plenty igbese for neck with no commitment to pay back and be forming business man and billionaire? Nigeria is not working because of the input from you and I.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by Nobody: 4:16pm On Jun 27, 2016
There is too much tribalism in this country.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by kettle84(m): 4:21pm On Jun 27, 2016
Why are Nigerians not worried about budget implementation and The restructuring of the country so that every region controls its resources.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by 360command: 5:49pm On Jun 27, 2016
Nonsense Bruce wayne! We wud reclaim wat dey tried to take We wud restore d name of our master D voice of our ppl& d spirit of our nation.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by Horlufemi(m): 6:20pm On Jun 27, 2016
Olakunlae:


Even Ireland and Scotland want to leave UK... U r saying Nigeria should be like them... Ur proposed cannot even work

That's what I said. Try it. If it pays you stay. If it doesn't you are free to leave and come back anytime. Shikena
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by wirinet(m): 6:32pm On Jun 27, 2016
Safari29:


divided we fall. if we breakup into two or three units, individual unit will still breakup in a matter of time, then each sub-unit will eventual breakup again. so what is the gain in that. once you breakup, u cant make up rmb undecided

dont do something you will regret, lots of countries are happy with less than. be tolerant

Even though the Greeks gave us democracy, they also gave us the atom - the smallest indivisible particle of an element. Now Biafra would not be the last division of former eastern Nigeria. Biafra would need to be divided up into ijaw republic, Alaigbo republic, cross rivers Republic, etc. Then Alaigbo would further need to be divided into Anambra republic, Onitsha republic, Anioma republic, etc, these republics would need to be devided further until we get to the smallest individual political unit - the political atom, which is the individual clans.

The same political intrigues will occur within all political divisions, with shouts of marginalization, cheating and domination by groups who loses out in the political game.

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Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by adebowales: 7:11pm On Jun 27, 2016
the sentence is twisted it means if Nigeria breaks up some part might not be able to stand on its own
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by nairalandankrah: 7:15pm On Jun 27, 2016
mr ben, are you telling yourself the truth?? i doubt.
if not you should know that the long term benefits far, far, outweigh the present tempoary perils.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by WhoRUDeceiving: 7:20pm On Jun 27, 2016
When you tell a lie over and over, it sometimes appears as the truth. For some the lie means power and profit in their pockets, and that is why we always hear Go on with one Nigeria, One Nigeria a job that must be done, We are the Giant of Africa, Africa's great black hope, Africa's largest economy, and we are better off as one Nigeria...

All propaganda and mind games to stop una from doing what you naturally would do. Do you know that foreigners know exactly who you are, that is, The English, the Chinese, the Indians, the Germans. They know exactly who you and your forefathers were and are. They have evidence and tons of documented artifacts on who you are and will do all they can, even through their puppets in Nigeria, to make sure you don't know who you are.

That is why you are a Nigg.er Arean. That is why you have been contained by force, that is why in a democracy you have militants like OBJ, David Mark, Ike Nwachukwu, Buhari, all taking positions over 16 years despite being in previous dictatorships as leaders.

The United Kingdom answers names that reflect who they are, and the people who's EPL you follow die, are indirectly telling you that they would rather starve and protect their own land than allow others to dictate to them, to allow others to erase their identity and give them another name, and that they are proud of being 1 little island than 1 big continent.

And guess what, they go survive, even charge Buhari heavy fee for using their hospitals for common ear infection.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by WhoRUDeceiving: 7:25pm On Jun 27, 2016
wirinet:


Even though the Greeks gave us democracy, they also gave us the atom - the smallest indivisible particle of an element. Now Biafra would not be the last division of former eastern Nigeria. Biafra would need to be divided up into ijaw republic, Alaigbo republic, cross rivers Republic, etc. Then Alaigbo would further need to be divided into Anambra republic, Onitsha republic, Anioma republic, etc, these republics would need to be devided further until we get to the smallest individual political unit - the political atom, which is the individual clans.

The same political intrigues will occur within all political divisions, with shouts of marginalization, cheating and domination by groups who loses out in the political game.

Then lets try and see how that goes, because it is usually bigger empires and countries that more that likely break into rather ethnic or religious homogenous nations/kingdoms. So far, it has worked very well for those who's systems and clothing and slang we love to copy. Some of these smaller countries are among the richest in the world. Even in Spain or Germany or even India, where have you see those with even different dialect wanting to break up? They know who they are and what they share is stronger than minor differences, unlike Nigeria that language, religion, even mindset is same in one region among groups but different from another region of 40 million people. Imagine that.

It's time for Africans to call their countries and kingdoms what they are, and divide themselves on their own powers and not European powers.

The day that happens is the day that those promoting a British experiment will finally be ashamed of themselves.

Unless you know your people actually aren't going to amount to anything and the world will see that they were and are all about Owambe

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Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by wirinet(m): 7:28pm On Jun 27, 2016
nairalandankrah:
mr ben, are you telling yourself the truth?? i doubt.
if not you should know that the long term benefits far, far, outweigh the present tempoary perils.
That is the absolute truth. What are the long term benefits of chopping up a political unit into smaller units? Even the Brexit fans are not celebrating because i am yet to see the long term benefits of exiting Europe outside British (sorry English) pride. Now that Britain has decided to break from Europe, can you predict where the breakup will end? Will the English be able to keep the Scottish and the Irish within the union? Only time will tell.
Re: We Are Better As One United Nation - Murray-Bruce by MirabelArode(f): 7:35pm On Jun 27, 2016
IHEJIRIKAisBOKO:
The disintergration of Nigeria is an inevitable eventuality

Hmm. yoruba muslims are now becoming sensible, seems we ipod ugandans are doing a good job. grin cheesy

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