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Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by murmee: 9:43am On Jul 02, 2016
otokx:
it's possible, if the grid gets decentralized or segmented and the customers all get prepaid meters.

Some places in PH have 23/7 light.
Good people, DECENTRALIZATION in every facet is what Nigeria need to develop.
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by lokojay1989(m): 9:43am On Jul 02, 2016
stable power supply is possible if federal government allow capable states to generate their power. it has anothwr advantage coz it will generate income for the state
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by Phonefanatic: 9:43am On Jul 02, 2016
obailala:
A 1000mw gas power plant would cost roughly $1billion; the president's travels would not cost beyond $1 or at most $2million per trip. That's like 0.1% of the cost of a 1gw plant; so please try and make a better argument.

That's roughly N600million per trip if I go by your assumption and he has taken more than 10 trips in his first year in office then calculate for 4 years cheesy cheesy....... My calculator is showing me error when I tried to calculate.

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Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by Mypeople2(m): 9:45am On Jul 02, 2016
gurunlocker:
To achieve this, the income of an average Nigerian will be high, because a stable electricity means a higher bill.... If we are to get 24/7 electricity, then each house must be ready to pay 30,000 monthly.....
My guy, it is not about the money. Let us see the light first. They have been increasing the bills without increasing the power supply
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by Phonefanatic: 9:45am On Jul 02, 2016
obailala:
Being unable to make a reasonable argument without resorting to insulting words like zombie speaks volumes of your mental and intellectual capacity.

I asked a very reasonable question. Who's job is it to protect the pipelines?

If the pipelines are protected like you said don't you think they will be better supply of electricity?
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by obailala(m): 9:47am On Jul 02, 2016
989900:
We might need over a 100,000MW to totally power everything and everyone without blinking, especially with a growing economy and populace.

But there was fairly stable power supply at 5,000MW last year.

If the militants and vandals would allow, Fashola promised 7,000MW by end 2016 to early 2017, and 10,000 by end 2018.

@7,000 MW we should have roughly 12-14 hours stable across board.

@ 10,000 MW probably 14-17 hours across board (relatively).

@15,000MW we should be doing 20 hours + . . . which is a good step going forward.


The above can be achieved only if power generation and transmission is decentralized and adequately diversified.

The present laws make it "rocket science".


At a meagre 5,000mw, Nigerians enjoyed up to 18-20hrs power supply accros the entire country for months. I can assure you that 7,000 to 10,000 can translate to a steady 20-22hrs accross the nation. The only thing is, when power becomes fairly stable, it would drive industrialisation, and with a large drive in industrialisation, the power demand will increase monumentally and then even 10,000mw wouldn't be enough any more. But with the current state of things (non-industralised Nigeria), even 7000mw would do wonders.

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Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by murmee: 9:48am On Jul 02, 2016
ITbomb:
Yes

All the problems of Nigeria is because of over centralization.
Fashola did say that provision of electricity is not rocket science because in a smaller area, it is easier to troubleshoot and implement.

I love his new proposal that north should have a different grid (generating and transmission system), middle belt different, same with SS, SE and SW but I know the King in the North will never allow that
Anything that will make the South of Nigeria free and develop will be blocked by the North.
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by obailala(m): 9:50am On Jul 02, 2016
Phonefanatic:


That's roughly N600million per trip if I go by your assumption and he has taken more than 10 trips in his first year in office then calculate for 4 years cheesy cheesy....... My calculator is showing me error when I tried to calculate.
It's still nothing compared to the money we're talking about, still less than 3% of $1bn.
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by obailala(m): 9:53am On Jul 02, 2016
Phonefanatic:


I asked a very reasonable question. Who's job is it to protect the pipelines?

If the pipelines are protected like you said don't you think they will be better supply of electricity?
We have a country with zero security, a country where security forces only know how to harrass, extort and kill the innocent. Pipeline infrastructure are as vulnerable as candle was close to a heat source. If we must be real, it takes only patriotism for those pipelines not to be blown, there's absolutely nothing the govt can do if a people decide to sabotage their own development.

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Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by murmee: 9:56am On Jul 02, 2016
gurunlocker:
To achieve this, the income of an average Nigerian will be high, because a stable electricity means a higher bill.... If we are to get 24/7 electricity, then each house must be ready to pay 30,000 monthly.....
That is not correct. With a prepaid meter, you can regulate or control the amount of energy you consume.

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Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by SirdeKay: 9:58am On Jul 02, 2016
It is not an impossibility. We can achieve even more by that time if the present momentum is sustained. The period between 1980 till 2000 were wasted years for Nigeria. Our leaders in those years failed to set the nation along the right path economically, the enormous resources at the nation's disposal by that time were frittered away while the other peer nations at that time like China, Malaysia, Singapore, Brazil, Pakistan etc took the bull by the horn and they are better for it today, some are even nuclear powers now while Nigeria is still lagging far behind.
But I'm pleased with the way we are now trying to put things in order and I'm very positive that we will take a giant leap forward in terms of power generation when the present power projects fully come on stream.
My only worry is the nefarious activities of the Niger Delta militants that who are hell-bent on neutralizing our little achievements in the power sector. Blowing up our power generation infrastructure and kidnapping the expatriates working to lift up the sector is counter-productive and should be condemned by all.

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Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by buskie13(m): 10:01am On Jul 02, 2016
Walexsammy:
bro, I can tell you that an area close to mine been having light for 23/7 for the past 2years now
an area u said...that's like 20% out of 100...we talking about this big nation called Nigeria that is blessed with bad leaders
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by murmee: 10:04am On Jul 02, 2016
Walexsammy:
bro, I can tell you that an area close to mine been having light for 23/7 for the past 2years now
Which area is that? Why don't you write the name if you are sure of what you are posting.
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by SEAwuru1: 10:05am On Jul 02, 2016
It is possible only when corruption is completely killed and buried. That will be in a couple of years maybe 50yrs from now if the future leaders continue this fight against corruption
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by buskie13(m): 10:05am On Jul 02, 2016
asuustrike2009:

But some virgins can pregnant via artificial means
be real....u know what i meant
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by lilwill(m): 10:06am On Jul 02, 2016
Actually, with our current economic status, ten years is too small to have steady power. I did a project on the implementation of nuclear power in Nigeria and I stumbled across these facts:

Nigeria has 3 hydroelectric power stations and 7thermal stations all with an installed capacity of about 3,600mw and a power distribution grid that can only handle about 7,000mw. This 3,600mw is not even enough to supply Lagos state alone for 24/7 power. Nigeria need at least 100,000 - 120,000mw at the very least.

The legislation in place has made it almost impossible for private companies to build power stations and to supply to the national grid. Thus meaning that only the FG can generate power for the grid.

The national grid can only handle a paltry 7,000mw and thus needs to be severely upgraded or even overhauled to at least 150% of the expected power supply to be able to handle the power to be generated (and Nigeria needs over 100,000mw).

Add to the fact that power stations cost money and that thermal stations which burn either gas or coal wreck havoc to the atmosphere (especially at this time when the threat of global warming is hanging over our heads).

Even a 1,000mw nuclear reactor costs over 3 billion USD, we can't afford to generate 100,000mw in ten years. 20, 25, maybe but not ten.

Maybe if the legislation restricting private ownership of power plants is changed, we can have sustainable power in 15 years, but knowing the Nigerian legislative process, only God knows if anything can be done about it.

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Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by lilwill(m): 10:13am On Jul 02, 2016
obailala:
At a meagre 5,000mw, Nigerians enjoyed up to 18-20hrs power supply accros the entire country for months. I can assure you that 7,000 to 10,000 can translate to a steady 20-22hrs accross the nation. The only thing is, when power becomes fairly stable, it would drive industrialisation, and with a large drive in industrialisation, the power demand will increase monumentally and then even 10,000mw wouldn't be enough any more. But with the current state of things (non-industralised Nigeria), even 7000mw would do wonders.


You've got it all wrong. for starters over 40%of Nigerians do not have power at all. even 7,000mw is barely enough for Lagos ( the most populous state) to get 24/7 electricity in all its environs
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by goodforsomthing: 10:14am On Jul 02, 2016
mrprezident007:
With what we have been through as a country, the power sector alone have consumed more money than any other sector, but little or no result have been achieved. I was even hoping that this new FG administration will be different but so far it seems we are going back to 1830 when we had 0MW throughout Nigeria. I had tthis argument with someone on Palmchat but I would like to know what you NLs have to say. Do you think Nigeria can have steady power supply in the next say 10yrs.


Yes it is possible,that will be in 4016.Naijabet man say so
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by sweatlana: 10:23am On Jul 02, 2016
ikbnice:
why did you come back here? Did u intend to feel the suferring?
Daddy retired... I got married here at home.
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by Nobody: 10:24am On Jul 02, 2016
mrvitalis:

The problem is the money... If we had the money we would build this power plants.. . Truth be told we need over 200,000mw as a country and that will cost over 250 billion dollars , how do we raise such money in this country...

We will... if we start.putting death sentence on looters in the Law....not ds charade we are doing, dat looters will forfeit 60% and anoda person will reloot...
Its a gradual step... and yes a lot of education to the masses about electricity and patriotism
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by Bamz(m): 10:31am On Jul 02, 2016
ExposingZombies:
A dog winning an election in Nigeria is more likely to happen than 24/7 power supply.

Snoop Dogg
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by amparas(m): 10:34am On Jul 02, 2016
It will be easier for a camel to enter the eye of a needle than for this to happen
Some cabals will never let that happen
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by Nobody: 10:36am On Jul 02, 2016
dantori:


please can u explain more what caused about the system collapse on the National Grid its pertinent since you're more involved so you will know better than us thanks.
anyway I also believe we'll have a better electricity regime with this government
Bloody APC scouts every where
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by Nobody: 10:37am On Jul 02, 2016
Bamz:

Snoop Dogg
He meant muhammadu buhari
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by obailala(m): 10:38am On Jul 02, 2016
lilwill:



You've got it all wrong. for starters over 40%of Nigerians do not have power at all. even 7,000mw is barely enough for Lagos ( the most populous state) to get 24/7 electricity in all its environs
For the majority who are connected to power supply, the little 5000mw ensured up to 18-20hrs. And to correct your statememt, its mostly very rural areas that aren't still connected to the grid and these users dont make up anywhere near 40%. Nigerians are mostly concentrated in cities and all cities are connected to the grid. Even if we were to connect every single unconnected home to the grid today, the potential power demand from these unconnected rural areas wouldnt be up to 5% of the total power demand nationwide.
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by SUGARDADDY55(m): 10:47am On Jul 02, 2016
Yes na since last month we ve light in my area.





eeeee...... Day don break ooo. Oh God, so i ve being dreaming. I need to go Test for malaria.
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by codedguy1(m): 10:48am On Jul 02, 2016
ITbomb:
Yes

All the problems of Nigeria is because of over centralization.
Fashola did say that provision of electricity is not rocket science because in a smaller area, it is easier to troubleshoot and implement.

I love his new proposal that north should have a different grid (generating and transmission system), middle belt different, same with SS, SE and SW but I know the King in the North will never allow that

This what true federalism will bring if implemented.

With separate grids jebba, shiroro, Kainji and ajaokuta steel complex will supply the north and middlebelt.

Nipp that Tinubu started should have covered the SW by now generating transmitting and distributing power to all the SW states. They will have some gas supply from the SS.

SS will use their gas which will be able to supply power to some parts of the SW and SE who also have coal.

Corruption is a major setback and this cuts accross every region.

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Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by DrMuzungu(m): 10:49am On Jul 02, 2016
Technically speaking, Nigeria has to generate around 30 times more electricity at any given moment, to supply every Nigerian home or business 24/7. If that is achieved, then the answer to the question is YES. But we all know that is not going to happen any time soon.
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by DeRay98(m): 10:52am On Jul 02, 2016
IstandWitBuhari:
With dullard buhari as president and yeye osibande as vp and Minister of darkness fashola constant power can never be achieved because you can't give what you don't have.

WARNING: Haters are liable to die young...quit hate and live long. cool
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by obicentlis: 10:53am On Jul 02, 2016
obailala:
A 1000mw gas power plant would cost roughly $1billion; the president's travels would not cost beyond $1 or at most $2million per trip. That's like 0.1% of the cost of a 1gw plant; so please try and make a better argument.
You are not sincere about the cost of 1000mw.

If you want to know the cost Of gas powered plant, research abt South Sudan electricity projects and cost.

Btw, i used presidency travels as an instance that money isn't the problem of power outage.
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by egobetatoday: 10:53am On Jul 02, 2016
afanide:
Not until we curb corruption
And here they go again!
Re: Is Steady Electricity Possible In Nigeria? by Emeonyerichard(m): 10:54am On Jul 02, 2016
The business fellows in nigeria will not allow that be because dy deal on generators and other materials that generate electricity.. So i hope u no y it won't be possible for us since the selfless nigerian are doin there best to see the project dont wrk

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