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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Chebe01: 12:51pm On Jul 04, 2016
Gastuso:

Bro I have been following this debate but refused to comment because of some individuals who released polemical statement on anyone who try to advice right.
A colleague of mine who works as a lecturer in a renowned University in Nigeria, with over 5 years teaching experience was denied admission by the University of Alberta to study M.A due to low undergraduate grade. This guy have a CPA of 3.70 and that is 2:1 I guess. Thou some dudes may say UofA is very competitive, yes you are right, likewise every other Universities in Canada in terms of graduate admission.
The chance of getting admission with 2:2 grade is 1 out of 100%. Bro you can apply for a PGD programme as a foundation. I believe your dream is still in tact.
Best of luck

No No No.....Au contrarie Mon Cher grin, a 3.70 CGPA is competitive enough to gain admission in Canada and Europe for a masters degree programme. What matters most IMO is the degree you're seeking admission into (didactic or research), how well you performed in required courses at undergrad level (maths and stats for Economics degree application for instance), relevance of work experience, and how well you package your application (referees, motivation)........if you can get your professors to say stuff like "he was among my best students in econometrics or mathematics" in the referee report and you scored an "A" in those courses, you will stand an improved chance. Be as strategic as you can...........I had a 3.97 CGPA in my undergrad and was able to get into Sheffield, University College London, and University of British Columbia just after graduating for my undergrad years ago (although I opted for bank work then shocked)

You are right about having a 2:2 on the other hand: it gets a bit more difficult........perhaps one can contact the university professor you want to work with, ensure they buy into your research concentration and accept to supervise your dissertation. In many cases, they're the ones to make the first call and can motivate for you being admitted without achieving the minimum admission requirements.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by bosypumpin: 12:51pm On Jul 04, 2016
Good day NLs
in trying to arm myself with further information in preparation for my LL.M program Manitoba, I stumbled on one of thesoj's "post here", "click this" signature and I said to post this.
please endure and ultimately enjoy the long read.

#copied from Re: Travelling To Canada Part 7 by Nuendo: 5:55am On Mar 01, 2015 #


Good day to the wonderful people of this house. Most people wont know me here. I was part of the successful applicants in Part 4 of this forum. Calgary has been wonderful ( and very cold too) and I am graduating in a few months with my Master of Architecture Degree by the special grace of God. I want to use this medium to thank those who put in time and effort to keep this forum very active. Some of the forefathers I met seldom participate anymore.However, guys like Oga Siga and Oga Justwise are still here. I hail Sirs!! , Still very grateful and remain loyal to your government.

For those who are still hopeful or just about to apply, I want to encourage you all to have faith and follow the process with a clear and genuine motive. We have no idea the amount of help we get from here and the millions we have all collectively saved by going through this forum. I personally have directed about 4 people who have all been successful since I got mine and this is usually my first point of reference whenever I am guiding them.

Lastly, I usually end with a piece of advice or two based on personal experience and how Nigerians can make the most of their stay here. I do this because my schedule is unforgiving and I don't know when I would be free to post again.

1. KNOW YOUR PRIORITIES

Most of us coming here actually are in search of better opportunities in life and career especially as things are so tight back home and I a can speculate that bout 80% of applicants are doing this via the academic route which is a good thing. Those whoa are here are already aware of how the system here can be to your immense advantage or can squeeze the hell outta you mentally and physically. My ultimate advice is that we never forget the major reason for coming here in the first place. As much as money is important, and hustling etc, make sure your academics does not suffocate because you want to make some extra $$$. From experience, I can say, sometimes its better to maintain the lowest budget possible, work only if you have to and when you have the free time available and invest time and create a strong academic reputation for yourself in school. It would get you very far.... Take note, the work I refer to here doesn't include summer jobs but the kinda jobs that eat deep into your academics. See it this way : You may spend all the time hustling and raking up money (which in my opinion doesn't even come close to what you would earn at a very good place after graduation) and fail to perform strongly which immediately places you in a tight angle post graduation. You are already black and African, you cannot add a bad academic standing to that. Pick a struggle...

2. KILL PART OF THAT NAIJA MENTALITY

We must avoid approaching Canada with our Naija mentality - That there is no connection between academic success and success in the market. Connections and all still exist here to a certain degree but largely, this is a merit based system and things like references can take you to places you never could penetrate. Canada unlike most other countries, isn't bad in terms of Racism but you must remember that your nationality and skin color and even accent puts you somewhat at the base of the ladder. This is a bitter truth. So expect prejudice and stereotyping but always respond with excellence. The element of surprise is your most potent weapon. As a personal example: I got an offer from a top architectural firm that wasn't actually hiring to the bewilderment of my Canadian coursemates who still find it hard to believe that a 3rd world country graduate can outperform them. That was in my first year and the job still dey fridge till now. No CV, NO application, No Resume, Just recommendation. Another example is that the current President of the Royal Architects Insititue of Canada is Nigerian. Samuel Óghale Oboh, Full born and bred in Naija who made it through excellence and I actually benefit from his reputation even without my knowing him personally. So my people, excellence is a superior advantage here.....Try to make use of it.


3. MY PEOPLE, MIX UP!!!! ABEG.......
This is very important as the way the Canadians would react to you would be based largely on how timid or interesting you are and believe me, it helps in many ways from help with several aspects of your settling in, to academic assistance and tips about job offers and financial aid. Alo the prejudice factor reduces with an increase in interaction with the. face it, you are in their country. Learn their culture (without loosing sight of yours) learn about their cities, people and even start training yourself to speak English properly, in other words, learn the proper phonetics. (I cant believe I am saying this ). Trust me, there is nothing more mentally demoralizing than having someone ask you to repeat yourself over and over again. If you observe closely, this can spell the difference between them liking you and them not wanting to have a discussion with you both in school and subsequently at work. Its not fakeness, its called "blending in". This doesn't mean you should form whenever you see your fellow naija man. In fact at the slightest opportunity to switch to pidgin or naija accent, pls do to keep our culture alive. NB: I only realized this much later. I wish I started early.

4. KEEP EYE FOR GROUND

Well a lot of us have been conditioned by the Nigerian system that we don't believe that the world can be a good place and sincere people still exist. There are tons of opportunities just there for grabs in form of awards, financial aids and scholarships. Even programs and community initiatives that can go a long way for you. This connects to point no.2 in certain ways but also its not all academic. Participation also goes a very long way. try to seize the opportunity this system offers you and grab whatever is within reach. I depends on where you are but largely, don't expect people to tell you about it. They might not know that you don't know. SO ask questions, and always been on the look out for things like this. Also this is another aspect I wish I took more advantage of. I say this personally because I benefited and actually spent 4 months living and studying in Barcelona, Spain and traveling to over 12 cities in Europe as a recipient of a travel scholarship. So yes, another man's country can give you free money and opportunities your own country couldn't give you. Life isn't as bad as we were made to believe.

5. OPEN YOUR MIND...but don't loose it.

This is probably the most sensitive point and is so because of where we are from and the cultural and societal values on certain things.

a) First aspect I would hammer on is Religion. Well am sure one of the first things that would shock you here is the percentage of atheists here which may range from 40% in the older generation to about 85% in the current age distribution of 16-35 years. You would also encounter several other types of people who believe in things that would challenge the very foundations of your own faith. Please once you land here, instead of dragging with them, getting overly animated and or even condemning them to hell fire ( or wherever) , try and keep your views to yourself but never be ashamed or intimidated into not speaking about it when you feel like. Also take it easy - for those who bind and cast demons or see things other people cant see ( I say this with no intention to mock). But try to understand one thing, most of them don't care and its most likely that the powers, principalities and demons are actually based in Naija where the wickedness and evil is in exponential proportions compared to here. . You would make yourself look seemingly violent when you carry the matter for head. I think this info is clear enough.

b) Sexuality with special emphasis on Homosexuality and gay rights. Please, please and please, Learn to approach the matter with wisdom and tolerance in mind. You would encounter several individuals who are openly gay and they may have the best of personalities. As much as possible, try to keep your personal views to yourself and learn to interact without being judgmental towards them because they would notice immediately. I personally strongly disapprove of the ideology or way of life but I have several friends who happen to be gay now. I have learned that its their choice and the personality and character of the person has no connection to how they choose to love their lives. Hence I don leave the mata for Baba God to gauge the case himself. Its my job to love my neighbor without trying play God. NB: This doesnt mean in any way that I have accepted that way of life as I still feel free to discuss/debate (not be angry or unnecessarily vexed) my own take on the issue.


I hope I have helped one or two people who are about to make the switch to this part of the world. I tried my best to drop as much as I can because such first-hand information is hard to come by in one cohesive piece and I really wish I knew such prior to my coming.

Its a beautiful country here and my prayer and ambition is that one day people would create huge forums and discussion groups about how to move over to Nigeria.
Good luck to all the expectant applicants, may your TRV come unobstructed by the special grace of God.

Best regards & Happy New Month.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by CassetteBoy(m): 12:53pm On Jul 04, 2016
Duchynwa:
If anybody is going to Ontario this fall, I'll love if we hook up. Thanks and God bless us all
I'm going this fall, what sort of "hook up"?

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Ymc007(f): 1:00pm On Jul 04, 2016
harkinglaw:
Anybody going to Dalhousie during Fall? Applied since April 14 online without any response til now.
Yep, I'm heading that way, God willing. Applied June 14th. Don't worry, it will all end in praise.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Bricksonline: 1:06pm On Jul 04, 2016
Governoryomi:
Hello, please who is in Sheridan College. Do they request international students to make a tuition deposit, as a condition for the admission?

Thanks.
yes you are required to make a deposit ,as a new student two months before resumption.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Nobody: 1:09pm On Jul 04, 2016
Thank you all. Please I was refused study visa with the following points;

1. I am not satisfied you have sufficient and available financial resources, without working in Canada to pay the tuition fees for the course of study

2. I am not satisfied you have sufficient and available financial resources without working in Canada to maintain yourself and any family members.

3. I an not satisfied you have sufficient and available financial resources, without working in Canada to pay the cost of transporting yourself and any family members.

4. Personal assets (upon I attached my account statement with about 1.6m).

Other reasons;
1. Insufficient evidence provided to show the relationship between you and your sponsor (I am maternal cousin to my sponsor and we bear different surnames although I narrated my relationship/family tree to them, telling them my sponsor had supported me to European country for a course). My sponsor's mother and my father are siblings from same parents.

2. Insufficient evidence of available funds provided for your studies in Canada (My sponsor attached his bank statement with balance of approx 12m).

Please I need your views and approach towards addressing the points raised by the VO.



Important to note:

I have not paid my school fees but the bank had been informed to pay it and I got the refusal letter.

I attached a support letter as proof of prior support written by my sponsor to one of the European country embassy in Nigeria.

Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Nobody: 1:13pm On Jul 04, 2016
Congratulations Duchynwa. I know you. Safe journey to Waterloo
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by lawmerchant: 1:18pm On Jul 04, 2016
Gastuso:

Bro I have been following this debate but refused to comment because of some individuals who released polemical statement on anyone who try to advice right.
A colleague of mine who works as a lecturer in a renowned University in Nigeria, with over 5 years teaching experience was denied admission by the University of Alberta to study M.A due to low undergraduate grade. This guy have a CPA of 3.70 and that is 2:1 I guess. Thou some dudes may say UofA is very competitive, yes you are right, likewise every other Universities in Canada in terms of graduate admission.
The chance of getting admission with 2:2 grade is 1 out of 100%. Bro you can apply for a PGD programme as a foundation. I believe your dream is still in tact.
Best of luck
CGPA is not the sole criterion considered by graduate admission committees. Other factors includes your research proposal, previous experience, availability of supervisor in your research area, your reference letters and even availability of funds.
If you have a first class and proposes a graduate research in an area that the faculty does not have professor(s) to supervise your research, you will not likely be offered any admission.
Some universities in Canada as a policy limit the # of graduate students they admit to the # they (the uni) can fund. So even if you have a very good grade (from Canadian standard), you may not be admitted unless you indicate in your application that you have personal funds to fully cover your studies.
Another important factor is reference letter from your former lecturers. Needless to say, Nigerian lecturers are very terrible when it's comes to writing reference letters for oversea admissions. So you may have to online, search for good reference letters, prepare a draft for Mr. Lecturer to copy and paste.
The chances of getting admitted with a 2:2 is difficult but very possible with a well-crafted research proposal, work experience and a supervisor interested in your area of research. The UOttawa law faculty had in the past and even currently admitted Nigerian students who graduated with 2:2.
When schools in Canada deny you masters admission, they don't tell you the exact reseaon (unless u specifically ask), and don't presume it's because of your grade. LM

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Dreamhigh2016(m): 1:28pm On Jul 04, 2016
Amen.Canada here I come!

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by lawmerchant: 1:35pm On Jul 04, 2016
Mikymiko:
Thank you all. Please I was refused study visa with the following points;

1. I am not satisfied you have sufficient and available financial resources, without working in Canada to pay the tuition fees for the course of study

2. I am not satisfied you have sufficient and available financial resources without working in Canada to maintain yourself and any family members.

3. I an not satisfied you have sufficient and available financial resources, without working in Canada to pay the cost of transporting yourself and any family members.

4. Personal assets (upon I attached my account statement with about 1.6m).

Other reasons;
1. Insufficient evidence provided to show the relationship between you and your sponsor (I am maternal cousin to my sponsor and we bear different surnames although I narrated my relationship/family tree to them, telling them my sponsor had supported me to European country for a course). My sponsor's mother and my father are siblings from same parents.

2. Insufficient evidence of available funds provided for your studies in Canada (My sponsor attached his bank statement with balance of approx 12m).

Please I need your views and approach towards addressing the points raised by the VO.



Important to note:

I have not paid my school fees but the bank had been informed to pay it and I got the refusal letter.

I attached a support letter as proof of prior support written by my sponsor to one of the European country embassy in Nigeria.
Just two points:
You should have attached an affidavit in proof of relationship (since your have a surname different from that of your sponsor)

Your should have filed your application AFTER paying your school fees.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by rheginarh(f): 1:37pm On Jul 04, 2016
lawmerchant:

CGPA is not the sole criterion considered by graduate admission committees. Other factors includes your research proposal, previous experience, availability of supervisor in your research area and even availability of funds.
If you have a first class and proposes a graduate research in an area that the faculty does not have professor(s) to supervise your research, you will not likely be offered any admission.
Some universities in Canada as a policy limit the # of graduate students they admit to the # they (the uni) can fund. So even if you have a very good grade (from Canadian standard), you may not be admitted unless you indicate in your application that you have personal funds to fully cover your studies.
The chances of getting admitted with a 2:2 is difficult but very possible with a well-crafted research proposal, work experience and a supervisor interested in your area of research. The UOttawa law faculty had in the past and even currently admitted Nigerian students who graduated with 2:2.
When schools in Canada deny you masters admission, they don't tell you the exact reseaon (unless u specifically ask), and don't presume it's because of your grade. LM


Well i dont agree with your last paragraph

As for indicating ability to finance oneself b4 applying, i kno schools who offer you admission and then tell you no funding or your supervisor contacts you to ask about your funding situation, i dont tink its about indicating your financial standing, you might sell yourself short of good financial aid if you announce you can finance yours because you are scared of lack of admission if you have a good grade.

This issue is been dragged for too long, yes other things are considered during admission qualifications, but cgpa is stil very important, admission selection is a competitive pool and they have ratings and other people to choose from, your cgpa might be good but you dont kno the cgpa of the other applicants.

Having a supervisor interested in yu and willing to fight for you during admission selection is a good plus
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by opeyemi87babe: 2:04pm On Jul 04, 2016
justwise:


Hello,

Am an international student in Canada (one year post graduate course). I wasn't married while applying for visa, but now am married and am thinking on inviting my husband ( In school have already changed name to my husband name ) .
Please can we apply for visiting visa or open work permit?
For visiting visa, what will be the content of my invitation letter and supporting documents?
For Open work permit, thinking since my course is just one year course and am already in my 2nd(final) term, this might be somehow.


Please, I need your advice.



Thanks.


Read this link for documents http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/study-how-documents.asp
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Nobody: 2:06pm On Jul 04, 2016
How do tackle insufficient evidence of available funds provided for your studies in Canada (as My sponsor attached his bank statement with balance of approx 12m).

Although their first point in the section was insufficient evidence to prove my relationship with my sponsor)
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Nobody: 2:13pm On Jul 04, 2016
Mikymiko:
Thank you all. Please I was refused study visa with the following points;
1. I am not satisfied you have sufficient and available financial resources, without working in Canada to pay the tuition fees for the course of study
2. I am not satisfied you have sufficient and available financial resources without working in Canada to maintain yourself and any family members.
3. I an not satisfied you have sufficient and available financial resources, without working in Canada to pay the cost of transporting yourself and any family members.
4. Personal assets (upon I attached my account statement with about 1.6m).
Other reasons;
1. Insufficient evidence provided to show the relationship between you and your sponsor (I am maternal cousin to my sponsor and we bear different surnames although I narrated my relationship/family tree to them, telling them my sponsor had supported me to European country for a course). My sponsor's mother and my father are siblings from same parents.
2. Insufficient evidence of available funds provided for your studies in Canada (My sponsor attached his bank statement with balance of approx 12m).
Please I need your views and approach towards addressing the points raised by the VO.
Important to note:
I have not paid my school fees but the bank had been informed to pay it and I got the refusal letter.
I attached a support letter as proof of prior support written by my sponsor to one of the European country embassy in Nigeria.
Mother/Father/husband/sister/bother sponsorship is always the best because you don't stress yourself in proving/narrating relationship, birth certificates and marriage certificate have done the job. My advice to avoid all this insufficient balance of a thing..let your sponsor who isn't related to you or extended family member at least pay your full tuition if he is a CHAIRMAN / half of the tuition fees and you provide the receipt while filing your application, also let him/her transfer your living expenses/maintenance to your personal account and write a letter in respect to that.this i think shows commitment of your sponsor in the VO's eyes and will help mitigate all these insufficient funds thing. Narration of relationship can't be enough as they need strong conviction by evidence of documentations. As for your personal assets, atimes statement of account isn't enough if you have worked for a long time,attained a position/how big you earn and at a certain age.if you are single at that age they need something tangible as evidence to propel you back home.either by your own family or tangible assets like land/shares will have to come into play.Also for the personal assets/financial status,i hope you added all your relevant employment documents too?

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Nobody: 2:28pm On Jul 04, 2016
Please do CIC accept baptismal certificate as a way of proving relationship?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by bjmme: 2:32pm On Jul 04, 2016
michV:
Mother/Father/husband/sister/bother sponsorship is always the best because you don't stress ursef in proving/providing relationship only just birth certificates and marriage certificate have done the job. My advice to avoid all this insufficient balance of a thing..let your sponsor atleast pay ur full tuition if he is a CHAIRMAN / half of the tuition fees and provide the receipt while filing ur application, transfer your living expenses/maintenance to ur personal account and write a letter in respect to that.this i think shows commitment of ur sponsor in the VOs eyes and will help mitigate all these insufficient funds thing. Narration of relationship can't be enough as they need strong conviction by evidence of documentations. As for ur personal assets, atimes statement of account isn't enough if you have worked for a long time and at a certain age.if you are single at that age they need something tangible as evidence to propel you back home.either family or tangible assets like land/shares will have to come into play.Also for the personal assets/financial status,i hope you added all your revelant employment documents too?
I don't have landed property,I started working 2012,after nysc,in fact the work self God just dey bless now,besides,can someone take educational Loan from a registered co-op,where all necessary documents to back it up that after the program it will be sorted out...because will someone go and buy land now/shares
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by o2(f): 2:47pm On Jul 04, 2016
bjmme:
I heard someone saying something of this today,that Nigerians move to Togo,Ghana to get dolls,Has it gone so bad now that to pay tuition fee is now a big issue,why is my country like this?

Na so we see am oh
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Folafetty: 2:54pm On Jul 04, 2016
Folafetty:

Congrats bruv...
My story falls in line with yours...I reapplied about the same time and am yet to get any feed back...I am believing God to come testify just like you IJN ..AMEN
But I wanna ask pls can you elaborate on how you tackled their reasons for denial and where you called for medicals before issuing you the Visa? Again did they ask for you new offer letter As Well
Thank you

No i had 2:2 3.46
And i aren't going for a MSC am going for a post graduate studies
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Folafetty: 3:02pm On Jul 04, 2016
Folafetty:

No i had 2:2 3.46
And i aren't going for a MSC am going for a post graduate studies
[quote author=Folafetty post=47199338]
No i had 2:2 3.46
And i aren't going for a MSC am going for a post graduate studies in International Business Management
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Nobody: 3:03pm On Jul 04, 2016
bjmme:
I don't have landed property,I started working 2012,after nysc,in fact the work self God just dey bless now,besides,can someone take educational Loan from a registered co-op,where all necessary documents to back it up that after the program it will be sorted out...because will someone go and buy land now/shares
@Bjmme i can't profer solution to this because cases are different.Ties are what bind you to your country of residence and it vary depending on ones situation, its either employment,family,tangible assets/personal property,personal bank accts. so it varies which i presume the VO's assess on each individual situation. i have seen some1 who has been working since 2011, 31yrs, going for masters had a perfect application but was denied. when he requested for his GCMS note the vo ''stated that applicant has been working since 2011,31yrs old,has good funds in acct statement but at this stage of his career has not got a tangible home tie to motivate return upon completion of his studies,sp refused. and when he reapplied adding a land document,he was granted approval,so ties vary from individual to individual. for example;people who are married at 29/30 with a kid atleast have already got home ties and need not tangible asset to show during application. only a bank statement can serve at least to show that your are working
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by infix123: 3:18pm On Jul 04, 2016
Hi House,

I just file in for EE with a CRS point of 403. My Question is this, what are the possibilities of getting a job in Canada that could help boost my chances of getting selected? Are there job sites that are mainly into recruiting foreign workers? what are my alternatives of making use of this opportunity? I have 3 years extensive work experience as a software analyst. your quick response will be highly appreciated. Thanks All.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by lawmerchant: 3:27pm On Jul 04, 2016
rheginarh:


Well i dont agree with your last paragraph, i have two friends denied admission in Canadian schools, they told them the reason, on the rejection letter it was stated their academic qualifications didnt match those of other applicants evn tho they graduated with 3.8 and 3.96 respectively, one other school stated the person has graduated for a whyl and has not been working in that field.

As for indicating ability to finance oneself b4 applying, i kno schools who offer you admission and then tell you no funding or your supervisor contacts you to ask about your funding situation, i dont tink its about indicating your financial standing, you might sell yourself short of good financial aid if you announce you can finance yours because you are scared of lack of admission if you have a good grade.

This issue is been dragged for too long, yes other things are considered during admission qualifications, but cgpa is stil very important, admission selection is a competitive pool and they have ratings and other people to choose from, your cgpa might be good but you dont kno the cgpa of the other applicants.

Having a supervisor interested in yu and willing to fight for you during admission selection is a good plus
@rheginarh: Below are samples of refusal letters from 2 Canadian universities. There was no mention of grade as the reason for refusal (actually grade and reference was). Can you please share with us the refusal letters of your friends where the school expressly stated in the refusal letter that the reason was due to low grades. It will be interesting to see.

Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by rheginarh(f): 3:47pm On Jul 04, 2016
lawmerchant:

@rheginarh: Below are samples of refusal letters from 2 Canadian universities. There was no mention of grade as the reason for refusal (actually grade and reference was). Can you please share with us the refusal letters of your friends where the school expressly stated in the refusal letter that the reason was due to low grades. It will be interesting to see.

Haba, mr law merchant, this is not necessary, no need to post pictures or call me out, i can as well respond wit pix and school names for prove and we go bak and forth cos yu tink am lying.

Yu claimed they dont tell yu reason for denial in your former post dats y i commented to say they tell yu the reasons, i didnt say low grades was why, please dont change my words.

I didnt say low grades i said it was stated their applicaton didnt match those of other applicants, which in turn means its competitive like it stated on yours.

I really thought pple are free to share opinions, back to been a silent reader, God bless yu
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by kennynelcon(m): 3:55pm On Jul 04, 2016
lawmerchant:

@rheginarh: Below are samples of refusal letters from 2 Canadian universities. There was no mention of grade as the reason for refusal (actually grade and reference was). Can you please share with us the refusal letters of your friends where the school expressly stated in the refusal letter that the reason was due to low grades. It will be interesting to see.


Chai, success letter comes with congratulations as the heading.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by kennynelcon(m): 3:55pm On Jul 04, 2016
lawmerchant:

@rheginarh: Below are samples of refusal letters from 2 Canadian universities. There was no mention of grade as the reason for refusal (actually grade and reference was). Can you please share with us the refusal letters of your friends where the school expressly stated in the refusal letter that the reason was due to low grades. It will be interesting to see.


Chai, success letter comes with congratulations as the heading.
Regret mail na long Grammar.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Arcayo: 4:07pm On Jul 04, 2016
infix123:
Hi House,

I just file in for EE with a CRS point of 403. My Question is this, what are the possibilities of getting a job in Canada that could help boost my chances of getting selected? Are there job sites that are mainly into recruiting foreign workers? what are my alternatives of making use of this opportunity? I have 3 years extensive work experience as a software analyst. your quick response will be highly appreciated. Thanks All.
Go for PNP, apply to any open province to nominate you
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by CSSPATRICK: 4:10pm On Jul 04, 2016
bosypumpin:
Good day NLs
in trying to arm myself with further information in preparation for my LL.M program Manitoba, I stumbled on one of thesoj's "post here", "click this" signature and I said to post this.
please endure and ultimately enjoy the long read.

#copied from Re: Travelling To Canada Part 7 by Nuendo: 5:55am On Mar 01, 2015 #


Good day to the wonderful people of this house. Most people wont know me here. I was part of the successful applicants in Part 4 of this forum. Calgary has been wonderful ( and very cold too) and I am graduating in a few months with my Master of Architecture Degree by the special grace of God. I want to use this medium to thank those who put in time and effort to keep this forum very active. Some of the forefathers I met seldom participate anymore.However, guys like Oga Siga and Oga Justwise are still here. I hail Sirs!! , Still very grateful and remain loyal to your government.

For those who are still hopeful or just about to apply, I want to encourage you all to have faith and follow the process with a clear and genuine motive. We have no idea the amount of help we get from here and the millions we have all collectively saved by going through this forum. I personally have directed about 4 people who have all been successful since I got mine and this is usually my first point of reference whenever I am guiding them.

Lastly, I usually end with a piece of advice or two based on personal experience and how Nigerians can make the most of their stay here. I do this because my schedule is unforgiving and I don't know when I would be free to post again.

1. KNOW YOUR PRIORITIES

Most of us coming here actually are in search of better opportunities in life and career especially as things are so tight back home and I a can speculate that bout 80% of applicants are doing this via the academic route which is a good thing. Those whoa are here are already aware of how the system here can be to your immense advantage or can squeeze the hell outta you mentally and physically. My ultimate advice is that we never forget the major reason for coming here in the first place. As much as money is important, and hustling etc, make sure your academics does not suffocate because you want to make some extra $$$. From experience, I can say, sometimes its better to maintain the lowest budget possible, work only if you have to and when you have the free time available and invest time and create a strong academic reputation for yourself in school. It would get you very far.... Take note, the work I refer to here doesn't include summer jobs but the kinda jobs that eat deep into your academics. See it this way : You may spend all the time hustling and raking up money (which in my opinion doesn't even come close to what you would earn at a very good place after graduation) and fail to perform strongly which immediately places you in a tight angle post graduation. You are already black and African, you cannot add a bad academic standing to that. Pick a struggle...

2. KILL PART OF THAT NAIJA MENTALITY

We must avoid approaching Canada with our Naija mentality - That there is no connection between academic success and success in the market. Connections and all still exist here to a certain degree but largely, this is a merit based system and things like references can take you to places you never could penetrate. Canada unlike most other countries, isn't bad in terms of Racism but you must remember that your nationality and skin color and even accent puts you somewhat at the base of the ladder. This is a bitter truth. So expect prejudice and stereotyping but always respond with excellence. The element of surprise is your most potent weapon. As a personal example: I got an offer from a top architectural firm that wasn't actually hiring to the bewilderment of my Canadian coursemates who still find it hard to believe that a 3rd world country graduate can outperform them. That was in my first year and the job still dey fridge till now. No CV, NO application, No Resume, Just recommendation. Another example is that the current President of the Royal Architects Insititue of Canada is Nigerian. Samuel Óghale Oboh, Full born and bred in Naija who made it through excellence and I actually benefit from his reputation even without my knowing him personally. So my people, excellence is a superior advantage here.....Try to make use of it.


3. MY PEOPLE, MIX UP!!!! ABEG.......
This is very important as the way the Canadians would react to you would be based largely on how timid or interesting you are and believe me, it helps in many ways from help with several aspects of your settling in, to academic assistance and tips about job offers and financial aid. Alo the prejudice factor reduces with an increase in interaction with the. face it, you are in their country. Learn their culture (without loosing sight of yours) learn about their cities, people and even start training yourself to speak English properly, in other words, learn the proper phonetics. (I cant believe I am saying this ). Trust me, there is nothing more mentally demoralizing than having someone ask you to repeat yourself over and over again. If you observe closely, this can spell the difference between them liking you and them not wanting to have a discussion with you both in school and subsequently at work. Its not fakeness, its called "blending in". This doesn't mean you should form whenever you see your fellow naija man. In fact at the slightest opportunity to switch to pidgin or naija accent, pls do to keep our culture alive. NB: I only realized this much later. I wish I started early.

4. KEEP EYE FOR GROUND

Well a lot of us have been conditioned by the Nigerian system that we don't believe that the world can be a good place and sincere people still exist. There are tons of opportunities just there for grabs in form of awards, financial aids and scholarships. Even programs and community initiatives that can go a long way for you. This connects to point no.2 in certain ways but also its not all academic. Participation also goes a very long way. try to seize the opportunity this system offers you and grab whatever is within reach. I depends on where you are but largely, don't expect people to tell you about it. They might not know that you don't know. SO ask questions, and always been on the look out for things like this. Also this is another aspect I wish I took more advantage of. I say this personally because I benefited and actually spent 4 months living and studying in Barcelona, Spain and traveling to over 12 cities in Europe as a recipient of a travel scholarship. So yes, another man's country can give you free money and opportunities your own country couldn't give you. Life isn't as bad as we were made to believe.

5. OPEN YOUR MIND...but don't loose it.

This is probably the most sensitive point and is so because of where we are from and the cultural and societal values on certain things.

a) First aspect I would hammer on is Religion. Well am sure one of the first things that would shock you here is the percentage of atheists here which may range from 40% in the older generation to about 85% in the current age distribution of 16-35 years. You would also encounter several other types of people who believe in things that would challenge the very foundations of your own faith. Please once you land here, instead of dragging with them, getting overly animated and or even condemning them to hell fire ( or wherever) , try and keep your views to yourself but never be ashamed or intimidated into not speaking about it when you feel like. Also take it easy - for those who bind and cast demons or see things other people cant see ( I say this with no intention to mock). But try to understand one thing, most of them don't care and its most likely that the powers, principalities and demons are actually based in Naija where the wickedness and evil is in exponential proportions compared to here. . You would make yourself look seemingly violent when you carry the matter for head. I think this info is clear enough.

b) Sexuality with special emphasis on Homosexuality and gay rights. Please, please and please, Learn to approach the matter with wisdom and tolerance in mind. You would encounter several individuals who are openly gay and they may have the best of personalities. As much as possible, try to keep your personal views to yourself and learn to interact without being judgmental towards them because they would notice immediately. I personally strongly disapprove of the ideology or way of life but I have several friends who happen to be gay now. I have learned that its their choice and the personality and character of the person has no connection to how they choose to love their lives. Hence I don leave the mata for Baba God to gauge the case himself. Its my job to love my neighbor without trying play God. NB: This doesnt mean in any way that I have accepted that way of life as I still feel free to discuss/debate (not be angry or unnecessarily vexed) my own take on the issue.


I hope I have helped one or two people who are about to make the switch to this part of the world. I tried my best to drop as much as I can because such first-hand information is hard to come by in one cohesive piece and I really wish I knew such prior to my coming.

Its a beautiful country here and my prayer and ambition is that one day people would create huge forums and discussion groups about how to move over to Nigeria.
Good luck to all the expectant applicants, may your TRV come unobstructed by the special grace of God.

Best regards & Happy New Month.


This is a million dollar piece. Nice, perfect and great work. Thanks for your wonderful article. Highly educating.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Nobody: 4:25pm On Jul 04, 2016
rheginarh:

Haba, mr law merchant, this is not necessary, no need to post pictures or call me out, i can as well respond wit pix and school names for prove and we go bak and forth cos yu tink am lying.
Yu claimed they dont tell yu reason for denial in your former post dats y i commented to say they tell yu the reasons, i didnt say low grades was why, please dont change my words.
I didnt say low grades i said it was stated their applicaton didnt match those of other applicants, which in turn means its competitive like it stated on yours.
I really thought pple are free to share opinions, back to been a silent reader, God bless yu
you need not to gf! Your view/opinion is always welcomed..i always learn from here and go an make my research to strengthen and get my self convinced and not relying on mere hearsay..some people advise/comment wrongly and which of people who are reluctant always fall in this pitfalls.people are out here to debate if they feel their opinion was satisfactory to be countered. If you want to comment/advice,do that without doubt and misinformation.most questions asked here can be gotten from Google, with your intended school,cic website. I was talking to my Admission officer everyday during my Admission application,at a point we became friendly that my mails wouldn't pass 24hrs without her replying and she guided me throughout my Admission process,school fees payment without asking any single question here.Even on the steps to feel your study permit form and family information form are on the cic website. Please since yesterday till today it has been one argument or the other..i only want to be seeing news from CIC accra Ghana not argument/debate of 2.1,2.2,Masters or not PGC/PGD,competitive or not..Google is your intimate friend if one needs concrete convincing information.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by Rickywowoz: 4:33pm On Jul 04, 2016
xyoung:
Nothing wrong starting the next admission session in 2017. Other please follow even if you are yet to start your application for admission


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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by chiefolotu(m): 4:41pm On Jul 04, 2016
Hello house.....I completed my application and paid for it today. Memorial University of Newfoundland.

Please any one on this lane? lets share information.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by thesoj: 5:16pm On Jul 04, 2016
So you are saying that @MichaelFinn and @snoop4dem are lying? Also, my sister has met someone at uOttawa with a 2:2 CGPA. I saw it on the uOttawa website (for a particular course, I thought it was Electronic Business Technologies... email the program coordinator to confirm...) last year that a 2:2 was their minimum requirement, but I am not able to find the link at the moment.

While it is very difficult to get a into a masters with a 2:2, it is not impossible depending on the applicant's course of interest, research experience, recommendations, statement of purpose, contact with the admissions office, and more.

Your statement in bold is too binary and is misinformed -- have you emailed every school to find out that they will never consider someone with a 2:2 or low 2:1?? Please be careful when making absolutist statements like his because they are not very helpful for people seeking information on the thread.
blaugrana82:
... I was so inquisitive I had to confirm from Uni Ottawa site for electronic business technology. ,bros abeg no school in Canada accepts less than a 2.1 for masters and the 2.1 must be a very strong one except are ready to keep spending 26,000 naira = 100 Canadian dollars to each schools. 3.73 is almost 3.75 CGPA so he could try out some schools but my bro e too hard walahi. I'm just been very sincere with u

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 10 by olaniyisal: 5:35pm On Jul 04, 2016
Please how so u readdress this issue for the first delay

Duchynwa:
I want to share my testimony here and thank u guys for the nice work u have been doing here. I have been a silent follower of this thread and I must confess that I am impressed by the selfless help being rendered well by you my wonderful people. Keep up the good work and may God bless us all.

I submitted my first visa application /study permit on January 31st 2016 with an up front medicals. On 13th March, I got an email that my processed passport has been dispatched to VAC office and upon collection, I was denied.

Reasons :
1)that I don't have enough money to pay my tuition fees without working in canada (by the way I was given a full Scholarship clearly stated in my admission letter) and,
2.that I may not return to Nigeria after my studies due to lack of assets here.

I addressed the concerns raised by the Visa officer and replied on 31st March (I was suppose to resume in May 1st, spring term).

To the glory of God who is ever faithful, the Holy Spirit my greatest friend and through the intercession of the Sweet Virgin, Our Lady of Perpetual Help whose Son refuses Her nothing,on 24th June, I got an email with a letter that the study permit has been approved and that my visa has been issued.
I also got very lucky, my supervisor approved deferment of my admission a day to the deadline before my admission will be automatically revoked.
So I will be starting this fall.

I must admit that the denial wasnt funny at all and the waiting was something else especially when I couldn't meet up with the Spring term n my supervisor refused to defer my admission because I have been denied visa earlier.

In all I give God all the glory.
For those of you who have been denied before, dont give up, dust it off n try again and for those who are still awaiting response from the embassy keep hopes alive and pray, the God that did it for me at the eleventh hr must surely arise on your behalf. Amen. It can only be God in whom all things are made perfect. I have be following this thread n have read stuffs people point out here as a case for possible denial but I told myself, my case is different if there are any lapses in my application, God pls perfect it. He did it for and will surely do it for all the hopeful here if you believe.

If anybody is going to Ontario this fall, I'll love if we hook up.
Thanks and God bless us all

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