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joseph1013:
Taye Taiwo...best left back we ever produced? Bros, you dey fall hand walahi. Shebi you talk say you dey follow Palle go watch ball. Why you no con know Benedict Iroha. Yisa Sofoluwe nko? Babayaro nko?

icon4s, see Nigeria life outside.

TheGoodJoe:


There are sometimes you do not argue and watch. For instance as I said before, I was not excited about Iwobi. Even when Icon4s hammered he was a brilliant talent. However, I did not criticise because Arsene Wenger refused to let him go on loan because he was nurturing Iwobi himself.

This is a coach who has nurtured some of the brightest talents in the game like Nasri, George Weah, Van Persie, Ashley Cole, Anelka etc. This man knows a good talent when he sees one.

When Kanu had a heart surgery, Arsene Wenger took the risk because of his belief in Kanu's talent and gave him that 25 Jersey.

When such a coach who refined talents like Adebayor and Henry, takes a young amateur Kelechi Nwakali who has not played long with the gunners and drafts him into the first team. There is something special about the player. He is good beyond your comprehension.

At such times, you quit arguing and learn from the master.

At this point, you can not say Kelechi Nwakali is not a special talent. Arsenal first team after the U17 World Cup golden ball reminds me of one special talent. Cesc Fabregas.

TheGoodJoe:
Awo did not outclass Yahaya. I disagree. Awo was the striker upfront and all the fantastic team work fell to him to finish. How can you call that outclassing?

TheGoodJoe:
What is record and facts? Football is beyond record and facts. You have watched both of them play. You have eyes. That is why you are running up and down the thread with Awo. You suppose to be able to watch football and tell a better player.

When Renato Sanches came in as a Sub. You watch to tell whether he is a good player. You judge if his good. He was special that night. Will you go and start digging records and facts.

Celestine is one of the greatest left back I ever saw. I watched this guy do some amazing battle. Watch his games in Atlanta against Mexico, Brazil and Argentina.

Watch his game against Spain. Watch how Celestine drifts into midfield and combines with the likes of Oliseh and Okocha in midfield. He plays neat tidy passes to keep possession. Overlaps and tracks back effortlessly.

Football is beyond goals and shots. Are you going to dig out passes completed between Celestine and Taiwo? Are you going to give us interceptions and distance completed?

There is no debate here. They are not mates. If you can watch one of Celestine Babayaro's games against AC Milan. When AC Milan was AC Milan with legends and see Celestine pull out a memorable game. Do you know Celestine's longevity at Chelsea? Do not go there.

forgiveness:
Which fantastic team work? So, Iheanacho didn't ride on the fantastic effort of his team to glory? He dribbled all the way from goal post to goal like Maradona to score all his goals abi?

At least em know where post dey. Besides, Awoniyi raked in more assist than Yahaya who is an attacking midfielder.

He outclassed him. Shikena!

Who no no that one.

joseph1013:
Taye Taiwo...best left back we ever produced? Bros, you dey fall hand walahi. Shebi you talk say you dey follow Palle go watch ball. Why you no con know Benedict Iroha. Yisa Sofoluwe nko? Babayaro nko?

icon4s, see Nigeria life outside.

forgiveness:
Facts and records simply means what they used their.. e drift, e combines, e posses, e passes neatly, e tracks, e overlaps, e tracks effortlessly etc take 'WIN INDIVIDUAL LAURELS.' Shikena! The rest na grammar. Like old men will claim em sabi play pass Pele but nothing to show for it.


Yes! I have eyes God gave me to see but the judgment of many thousands eyes matter most.

The world had judged already. Taye Taiwo better pass Celestine Babayaro. Fact!

The world deals with facts and that's all.

forgiveness:
I know dey fall hand I am saying it as it is plan and clear. No sentiments.

Taye Taiwo is by far better. I have seen dem play. I get facts and figures.

TheGoodJoe:

Did Yahaya who is a midfielder not score equal amount of goals with Awoniyi, 4 goals? Does that not show how poor he is? Do you know how many chances created by Yahaya that Awoniyi missed that would have increased Yahaya's chances? Now you are blaming Yahaya for Awoniyi's misses.

Awoniyi raked more assists because the players he passed to can finish. Yahaya created chances that would have increased his assists tally but unfortunately, their attacker Awoniyi missed loads.

forgiveness:
Don't tell you don't know Awoniyi didn't not start two matches while Yahaya played all the matches from the beginning to the end?

Do you know how many chances Awoniyi created for Yahaya and Co that would have increased Yahaya chances?

Do you know how many chances Yahaya blew away that could have increased his chances due to his selfishness?

Awoniyi passed those balls because he was not as selfish as most of his team mates.

TheGoodJoe:


There is no need arguing something that is too easy to tell. Eight years in Chelsea and 132 games for Chelsea with a Chelsea top player Graeme Le Saux in the same role says it all.

Before Celestine Joined Chelsea, he was the best young player in Belgium for two seasons. Not best young wing back or defender. Best Young player. For someone who claims to have eyes and watch games, there is no debate here.

This is what is called dragging. Shouting facts does not change nothing. They are not mates. Not in club football or Nigerian football. Taiwo's best performances was in a dead League with no competition. Ligue 1. Celestine's reign was in the EPL.

Which legendary Super Eagles game will you see Taiye Taiwo?

forgiveness:
You mean best young player in the Belgian pro league outweighed CAF young player of the year?

See as that one laurel take strip the yeye Belgian pro league player of the year.

Dead league team with no competition dey flog the Champions of the living league. Chai!

TheGoodJoe:

Your Ligue 1 facts and figures. As I said, it does not show anything when it comes to the left back role. Taiye Taiwo would never reign in the EPL as long as Celestine did. The kind of players Celestine faced in the EPL regularly, Taiye Taiwo would never smell. The type of players Celestine faced in the National team, Taiwo never smelt them. Facts and figures.

Your fund of this kind of argument. That is how you ran up and down this thread breathing fire that Solanke is better than Iheanacho. Just the same thing. Shouting facts and figures. It just shows your football judgment.

TheGoodJoe:

You can call it yeye but it was and still is a remarkable achievement for a left back. So impressive that a big club like Chelsea but him.

forgiveness:
Did Celestine Babayaro ever had that honour to be called CAF young player of the year? :oChai!

forgiveness:
He never reign in the EPL but he was crowed the best left back Africa ahead of those who reigned and ruled in EPL.

Chai!

TheGoodJoe:

Stop arguing pure facts. He is a striker and had the most chances to score among all the team mates. There are highlights of this to show how poor Awoniyi was. Awoniyi was not fantastic. A better striker would have done more. Game after game, Awoniyi fluffed and missed Chances. If it was under Westerhoff, that guy will not play another game in that tournament.

Yahaya would have recorded a higher assist figure if Awoniyi would just finish. One in one chances. Tap in chances he missed. You are here talking of him being better than one of the top promising talents in the game.

Just as I told you about Solanke, I will tell you the same about Awoniyi. To play upfront and get to the top, you need high conversion rate. Awoniyi's conversion rate from the U17 till now has been poor. He has to step up. Breathing facts fire does not change it. He was not awesome at the U17. If you like point assist. He is a point man with poor conversion rate.

Awo should hit the field and improve his conversion rate.

forgiveness:
Which fact? You are not presenting fact, you are just presenting your opinion.

The fact remains that Awoniyi didn't start in two matches. It counts a lot.

Post highlights mo we see.


He was not fantastic but came on in his second match to get an asisst and score the equalizer against Sweden. I know you will be among those who screamed goal with your hands almost chopped off.

He wasn't good but he singlehandedly scored two goals against Uruguay. He was not good...... Game after game he rescued the team with his goals and assist.


Who no dey miss chances?

Yahaya? He missed more begging chances than Awoniyi. who no know that one?

forgiveness:
I know dey fall hand I am saying it as it is plan and clear. No sentiments.

Taye Taiwo is by far better. I have seen dem play. I get facts and figures.

TheGoodJoe:

Stop arguing pure facts. He is a striker and had the most chances to score among all the team mates. There are highlights of this to show how poor Awoniyi was. Awoniyi was not fantastic. A better striker would have done more. Game after game, Awoniyi fluffed and missed Chances. If it was under Westerhoff, that guy will not play another game in that tournament.

Yahaya would have recorded a higher assist figure if Awoniyi would just finish. One in one chances. Tap in chances he missed. You are here talking of him being better than one of the top promising talents in the game.

Just as I told you about Solanke, I will tell you the same about Awoniyi. To play upfront and get to the top, you need high conversion rate. Awoniyi's conversion rate from the U17 till now has been poor. He has to step up. Breathing facts fire does not change it. He was not awesome at the U17. If you like point assist. He is a point man with poor conversion rate.

Awo should hit the field and improve his conversion rate.

TheGoodJoe:
You can have a taste here. And get a glimpse of the missing prowess of Awoniyi. Tell the guy to work on his finishing. A midfielder equalling his goal rate and you say outclassing. I laugh in Skills voice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8in3DjLDrAw

LOL. How does a midfielder get more begging chances than a striker. Was the striker that poor in getting to space?

In case link does not show, copy to savefrom dot net and download the 360 mp4 format.

forgiveness:
Missing prowess of Awoniyi com turn to marketing of Yahaya.

He was a winger in most of those matches. No excuse!

After all, Ronaldo is not a point man but still had more chances than many point men yet he scores when he sees the opportunity. That can't said about Yahaya.

Chai! Na even one assist em get and one of the goals he scored was as a result of Awoniyi's selflessness to assist him to had scored. Chai!

terzurum5:
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Osimhen too important to Flying Eagles for me to pick for Rio - Siasia
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Flying Eagles star striker Victor Osimhen

by Samm Audu

Nigeria Olympic team coach Samson Siasia has said he did not consider Wolfsburg-bound Victor Osimhen for the Rio Olympics because of how important he is to the Flying Eagles, who are campaigning to qualify for next year’s U20 AFCON.


Osimhen was not picked in the 35-man provisional squad for the summer games next month in Brazil even after he featured at the U23 AFCON in Senegal in December.


Siasia has now revealed that he overlooked the exciting young striker because he is the Flying Eagles most important player as they aim to beat Sudan to qualify for next year’s U20 AFCON in Zambia.


“I am of the opinion that the boy is going to play a very important role for the Flying Eagles. I know Emmanuel (Amuneke) has an important Africa Youth Championship qualifying match to play where he needs the boy since he is a very important player for him in the team,” he explained.


“So, if I should take him straight to the United States (of America) as at the time I left), am I helping the Chief Coach of the team or the team to qualify by depriving them of one of their important players?


So, why would I go and destabilise his (Amuneke) team?


“Victor is the most important player they have in the team. So taking him out of the Flying Eagles team now, how would Amuneke feel?


“If you check the 65-man list we first made, Victor (Osimhen) was on that list. So, the player has been on my list before I decided to excuse him to help the U20 national team excel too.


“I even took the boy to Senegal when they were reluctant to release him then.


“They are now playing Sudan and you now take his number one striker to US camp, how would he (Amuneke) feel?


“I let him to stay back to help Emmanuel in his quest to qualify the team to the African Championship. That is the true story about the issue.”
africanfootball.com/news/633127/Osimhen-too-important-to-Flying-Eagles-for-me-to-pick-for-Rio-Siasia

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forgiveness:
Missing prowess of Awoniyi com turn to marketing of Yahaya.

He was a winger in most of those matches. No excuse!

After all, Ronaldo is not a point man but still had more chances than many point men yet he scores when he sees the opportunity. That can't said about Yahaya.

Chai! Na even one assist em get and one of the goals he scored was as a result of Awoniyi's selflessness to assist him to had scored. Chai!

LOL. Bros you are a troll How can you compare Cristiano Ronaldo with Yahaya. Haba. Which player apart from Messi is on the same level as Ronaldo? That's a very unfair comparison.

Why are you doing this na?

I hope they both do well, especially for Awoniyi to work on his finishing. He's got what it takes to make it.