Ak47young:
Am not saying what they did is right but holding prayer meeting by 2pm on Friday exactly the same time for juma a. Maybe they were disturbing with noise but this could have been solved maturely with dialogue

So you mean, on Sunday when some Christians are still in the church by 2pm Muslims should not go to mosque?

BetaThings:


Why did bishop Oyedepo slap in his church?

Tell us about Christian fundamentalism
Go and read the mission statement of Pastor Bakare's church

Bishop oyedepo SLAPPED Didn't kill, a one off event..Besides the girl wasn't muslim. I find it repulsive you try to draw a parallel between that event and bloody,mindless,continuous islamic fundamentalism against christians virtually every part of the earth. from syria, nigeria, uk.. you can't be that naive.How many people has bakare or his church members killed? NIL




don't tell me about Dylan roof, or the IRA or murdering racists.They do not attach their faith to their acts, unlike you lot who carry out your murders strictly based on your faith.

Toeyoursea:
There are three sides to every story ;
Your side

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Their side

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The truth


ALLAH KNOWS BEST.

plz u guys should mobilize urself and and change ur orientation and stop giving excuses... we are getting tired

BetaThings:


Suppose the story is one-sided, would you agree that you are guilty of what you accuse him of

"The final TRUTH is that the Christians must have made a disturbing, loudspeakers assisted noise full of heresies while the Muslims were praying which must have led to the Catholic Church being raided by the Brave Muslims."
First of all he is guessing.
2ndly, don't muslims use microphones and speakers?
Now apply his hypothesis and assume that muslims used a speaker during a sunday service(which they do) and christians attacked the mosque...will i be so stupid to justify the actions of the christians in anyway?

Like i said. The people are the one not peaceful not the religion. Afterall am a Muslim and i totally speak against what they did. My Quran didn't teach me to destroy other people's property especially non muslim. And my own understanding of jihad is to struggle to be righteous while some understands it as killing to be righteous. Can you see the difference . it's the people not the religion.

zainabxel:


lol now see the difference, eating grass would have been called a christian thing if christians in various countries ate grasses. But you mentioned something that happened in a church in south africa to compare it with religious violence that every muslim country has witnessed or is witnessing one form of violent jihad or the other. Muslims love to subjugated other religions because they believe only theirs should be worthy of existence. What's islam without muslims? Did the religion spread itself? It was muslims that carried out waves of jihad and preaching to spread it, its muslims that build mosques, its muslims that print qurans its muslims that burn churches, intimidate other religions all in the name of entrenching the might of islam.

Hmmmmm. If this is not Sabon Wuse, it will be Gauraka.

So much for the religion of peace. What an irony.
Can someone touch his neighbour and shout Sai Baba.......

Ok

ISLAMABAD

desmondking27:
u must be crazy

24hrsmarriage:



http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/07/16/over-200-muslim-youths-run-amok-destroy-catholic-church-near-abuja/

the only problem in the world is Islam love and forgive is not there portion only pretending to

Where are all the defenders of the Religion of Peace in this forum. Please come out of hiding and explain what is going on in Niger state. Religion of piss indeed.

Owodiran1:
Like i said. The people are the one not peaceful not the religion. Afterall am a Muslim and i totally speak against what they did. My Quran didn't teach me to destroy other people's property especially non muslim. And my own understanding of jihad is to struggle to be righteous while some understands it as killing to be righteous. Can you see the difference . it's the people not the religion.

If I'm wrong correct me, for my Medulla is saying: ''Kill The Infidels...'' Propergate his words by force to nonbelivers...

ISLAM, RELIGION OF PEACE INDEED.

BetaThings:


Nobody is defending and making excuses
But there is so much propaganda these days

It has to be condemned if true but somehow I don't think I am reading all the facts
No matter what you have been led to believe, it had better not be true because it is very very dangerous

When Assembles of God Church members fought themselves and even mistakenly threw stones at Muslims in Saminaka last week without any provocation, did you recognise the deed as peaceful or was it a claim?
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/20-injured-houses-razed-assemblies-god-factions-clash-kaduna/



There is no one who is sane that will not condemn what happened in France yesterday
But this story is strange

Let me remind you that Muslims in UI mosque were once the victims of a blasphemous act by a Christian girl who dressed in hijab and joined the congregation and when prayer was on, and the entire mosque was quiet, started abusing Islam etc

Did you think those muslims would support what is being reported here?
Do you think they would not consider it strange?

you almost convinced me,but then I read again, and found defenses and excuses, no matter how much you lots try to convince everyone that Islam is peaceful, your body language and actions like this one will always counter your words, from Nigeria to other parts of the world we can see for ourselves the kind of peace Islam preaches which is wiping out people of other religion

kobonaire:
It is refreshing to read a Muslim condemning the acts of the destructive Muslim youth in this incident.
More should come and and openly condemn instead of just silently 'observing'.

true talk kobonaire! I am NEVER HAPPY reading stuffs like these or seeing muslim youths misbehaving. Becos it is not a true representation of the Religion of Islam.


The truth of the matter is that most of these youths themselves don't know the basics teachings of Islam or they know but choose not to apply. This Act is directly condemned in the Qur'an. Qur'an 60:8 says ''Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just''. Qur'an 5:32 says '' if you kill one person unjustly, it is as if you have slew the whole people....''


I don't know where these youths and their Imams get their own teachings from?


During the life time of the Prophet (SAW), he was called all kinds of names, mocked etc. He never physically abuse or assault anyone back.


Islam condone not all of these acts.



Thanks for your enlightment Kobonaire!

Dude get your facts right. Give me a verse in the quran that said that. Please am waiting. Cos have told you time without number. We understand things in different way. A lot of muslims with different views on jihad. And i repeat my own understanding of jihad is the struggle to be righteous and not killing to be righteous. Others might understand differently. Just get this to your head. People are the beongs that are not peaceful. Not the religion.

SmellingVagina:

If I'm wrong correct me, for my Medulla is saying: ''Kill The Infidels...'' Propergate his words by force to nonbelivers...

humilitypays:
The islamization of Nigeria phase 1 has just began.....phase 2 unfolding

But Nigerian Christians were forewarned about their decision at the last year's general election, instead they used a pastor fighting for his family's financial gain to deceive Christians....increased attacks on Christians, Christian communities (using Fulani herdsmen) and Churches increased dramatically ever since Buhari became president; they now feel like they own Nigeria

Nigerian Christians should prepare for more deadlier attacks in few months to come; Christians chose the path they are on now, so they have to endure and learn with their bloods Can a lion swap its skin? Buhari can never, and will never change...he's a born Jihadist, an inspiration for tribal and religious violence, even Buhari's political appointments so far is a true replica of how tribalistic Buhari is as a person, but God Almighty will shock them soon because the cattle that does not have tail, it is the gods that chases flies for it!

nna tell them ooh!

el-rufai dey kaduna dey do e own part.

Rexyl:



Muslims must address the serious problem about Islam. Other religions are peaceful and more tolerant of others but this religion.

It is not a matter of recognizing Jesus or Mohammad. The problem is what the faith is all about. You keep denying them yet they believe they are doing what their Allah approves. This is a serious problem and global threat to peace

if they do or committ an act that Islam is against, we have to deny those wrong teachings, acts etc. And even them if they don't repent.

Allah never approves or command shameful things. Qura'n 7:28

dreamwords:
There are two type of muslim in nigeria, northen muslim and south west muslim,
Only the northern muslims can do such but not the south west muslims

Stop decieving yourself. They're all the same!

khattab02:
true talk kobonaire! I am NEVER HAPPY reading stuffs like these or seeing muslim youths misbehaving. Becos it is not a true representation of the Religion of Islam.


The truth of the matter is that most of these youths themselves don't know the basics teachings of Islam or they know but choose not to apply. This Act is directly condemned in the Qur'an. Qur'an 60:8 says ''Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just''. Qur'an 5:32 says '' if you kill one person unjustly, it is as if you have slew the whole people....''


I don't know where these youths and their Imams get their own teachings from?


During the life time of the Prophet (SAW), he was called all kinds of names, mocked etc. He never physically abuse or assault anyone back.


Islam condone not all of these acts.



Thanks for your enlightment Kobonaire!

MY BROTHER, MAY THE PEACE OF OUR LORD BE WITH YOU. PLEASE DON'T LET ANY RELIGION BLINDFOLD YOU. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND FIND OUT WHICH ONE IS REALLY A GOOD RELIGION. SEE THE FOLLOWING:
Qur’an-(9:5): “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, And seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) ; but if they repent (accept Islam) and establish regular prayers and practices regular charity then open the way for them; for God is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.”
Qur’an-(8:65): “ O Apostle ! Rouse the believers to the fight, if there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering , they will vanquish two hundred; if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the unbelievers; for these are a people without understanding.”
Quran-2:216: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
Qur’an-(2:191): “And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out………such is the reward of those who suppress faith.”
Qur’an-(9:29): “Fight those who believe not the Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of truth even if they are the people of the book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Qur’an(48:20): “….Allah promises you much booty (spoils of war) that you will capture from the defeated infidels….”
Quran-8:38 “And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression”
Quran-8:12: I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
Quran-8: 15,16: O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day - unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!
Quran-9:111: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the
Qur’anQuran-9:73: O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end.
Quran-9:123: O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).
Quran-4:95: O ye who believe! Shall I show you a commerce that will save you from a painful doom? You should believe in Allah and His messenger, and should strive for the cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives. That is better for you, if ye did but know. ... Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than those who sit (at home).

This is a reminder to Christians that this is just but the beginning of birth pangs. Wakeup and face the reality these things can only get worse. This is a reminder to Christians that this is just but the beginning of birth pangs. Wakeup and face the reality these things can only get worse.

Smytter:
And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say,
"We are but reformers."


Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.

Please can you remind me which chapter and verse you quote this from? I can't remember it now.

hartopher76:
what do you expect, when there grand patron is head of state and commander in chief, the only lives that matter in this banana Republic called Nigeria is that of Hausa Fulani.

And the lives of cows. That's why they want to use our money to buy land for them and import grass for them as well. Indeed there was a country!

those animal want war in dis country

Why we share a useless country with these barbaric and brutal muslim animals, is beyond me!

We need to split this country as soon as possible! Let them have their own islamic country and kill each other off!

bestpunterever:
brother, av u been to d north b4, this set of people even called muslim from south west as fake.

Is that not evidence of their ignorance
No one - Saudi, Iranian, Nigerian etc - can judge your eeman! It is only Allah that knows your sincerity
Don't allow anyone to destroy your good deeds

The guy that used a truck to kill dozens of children was at first thought to have lost control of the truck; the victims at first did not comprehend what was going on. But we know the guy deserved a more painful death than what he got
But what I have read here is baffling - I know that there are ignorant muslims all around but this is really baffling

Christians will believe anything said about Islam and will not listen to our advice to ascertain the truth
We believe in due punishment for offenders - including death penalty. But we need to ascertain the facts
Part of the reasons for extra judicial killings by the police is the pretentious abolition of death penalty

Policemen want armed robbers to die so that they will not escape from jail to attack them - Muslims agree and support death penalty and due process
When people lump all Muslims together with ISIS, BH and other misguided groups, they forget that the leader of ISIS made his first public appearance in a mosque in Iraq
Before doing so he had executed the imam and other officials of that mosque. Why?
because they had spoken AGAINST his deviant ways

People don't need to really approve of you - just know and understand Islam and practise it sincerely
You will find that you will not have to take the law into your hands to kill innocent people - that is for the authorities to do after seeing evidence
You are not a scholar; I am not - so we cannot declare someone a fake Muslim

When you are provoked like Christians have been known to do, you will rely on the laws of the country to get redress
Islam is orderly; we don't just allow renegades to take action

In Islam, we don't criticise tribes, because they could be of mixed religion, we criticise specific acts of specific individual or religious groups
I am a Nigerian, I learnt of honour killing from someone who was criticising Islam on the internet. I later discovered that it was a cultural practice. That is the way myths about Islam is spread.
Don't be surprised news like this Niger State incident is welcomed by SOME because it provides ammunition for attack on Islam

We should not lose our heads

This is the verse - may Allah guide us

"O believers, if an evildoer comes to you with some news, verify it (investigate to ascertain the truth), lest you should harm others unwittingly and then regret what you have done"

Qur'an 49:6

This is why I support the Preaching Regulatory Bill introduced by the brief governor El-Rufai. Religious activities should be regulated in Northern Nigeria, I wonder what one idiotic Muslim preacher must have told these miscreants. I think the Nigerian Army should go back there and finish the work they started in Kaduna, that is kill them all.

This is why I support the Preaching Regulatory Bill introduced by the brief governor El-Rufai. Religious activities should be regulated in Northern Nigeria, I wonder what one idiotic Muslim preacher must have told these miscreants. I think the Nigerian Army should go back there and finish the work they started in Kaduna, that is kill them all.

Check my past posts, I am a Muslim, I just want to make Common Sense.

if u care to listen, they will tell u that Islam is Religion of PEACE. The truth is; Islam is a threath to world PEACE. The world will be in one-peace but for Islam.

Many people will quickly understand that place if you say Kaduna Road though the real name is Bakin iku.Churches around this place have been there for a very long time but to be honest with you these are areas you can not practice your Christianity freely.Thank God for there was no loss of life in this incident.May God continue to protect us most especially brethren living in volatile areas.

brown roof every where. That is why they will never develop. #BiafraOurOnlyHope.

zainabxel:

It is the Religion my friend. If christians attacked mosques all over the country and bomb people in the name of their religion, i'll totally blame christianity.

that will be wrong! Why? Becos you have to find out if it is the teachings of the religion to do so or not, before concluding. Of course many people have lied and do things that is not in the religion and claim it in the name of God or religion.




There is a vast difference between the teachings of a religion and the followers of a religion. Becos some followers of the religion will not apply the teachings or abide to it rules.


Both Islam and Christianity condemn fornication and Aldutery, but are some followers of both religion not committing it? Who is to be blamed? The religion or the those followers?