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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by Remii(m): 12:05pm On Jul 23, 2016
Suigeneris93:


they deserve to be barred from accessing any country outside Nigeria for life
anyway, that may likely happen, inability to enter USA because of cancelled visa can lead to visa denial in some countries too

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by MadamExcellency: 12:07pm On Jul 23, 2016
Pavore9:


The U.S have the right to deny anyone entry into their Country!

You mean by making our Honourable Legislators an object of public disgrace on our own soil?

It is not a crime to get mad at US Ambassador in Nigeria for going beyond insanity and accusing the innocent, let alone our congressmen of grievous offense that can tear their families apart and also kill their careers without a slightest evidence than gossips and hearsay.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by Yasher: 12:08pm On Jul 23, 2016
This minister is a wise man.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by ijustdey: 12:12pm On Jul 23, 2016
our legislators needs to be schooled in international relations


they fail woefully in that aspect

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by malosky79(m): 12:13pm On Jul 23, 2016
You can imagine the bunch of educated illiterate we elected as leaders of our great nation.........I weep for NIGERIA

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by malosky79(m): 12:15pm On Jul 23, 2016
The minister also explained why the US envoy failed to attend before the House when he was summoned to present evidence on the charges of sexual misconduct against the three lawmakers. “You can’t summon an ambassador to appear before a national institution because he is the head of state of his country where he’s serving, and he enjoys sovereign immunity,” he said.
According to him, the act of inviting the US ambassador to appear before the House is actually bringing ridicule to the Nigerian House of Reps and shows a lack of understanding of diplomatic agreement .

Useless set of people

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by ideylaff: 12:15pm On Jul 23, 2016
I think its only the foreign office known as our external affairs ministry has the right to call to see or summon and ambassador or high commissioner in diplomatic circles

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by David0(m): 12:19pm On Jul 23, 2016
MadamExcellency:
Thank Goodness, I have been right from day one.

It takes class and great IQ to know that US Ambassador was telling lies all along. This was a time our Legislators needed us to stand by them - majority failed just because of hatred for Leadership of National Assembly and unwarranted hero worships.

Nigerians are their own worst enemies.

Ur very much on point here. All dis writeup there, is an excuse to cover up d blunders of the US. We all knew they revoke the Visas as a result of d sex scandal.

Now that dey can't provide evidence, they r creating an excuse for their action.

It's a pity a lot of us chose to stand by the US on dis, that's d African inferiority complex towards d white working.

I think d senators shud sue them.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by MadamExcellency: 12:19pm On Jul 23, 2016
BCISLTD:



Total rubbish...they can deny u visa for looking at them the wrong way...they owe nobody any explanation.

The contention all along has never been denial of or revocation of entry visa rather blatant attempt to rubbish our Lawmakers and at large Nigerians from all walks of life before the international community.

I put it to US Ambassador that this episode was a failed stage managed show that never materialized. Instead of bearing their shame, they went ahead to harass innocent family men with accusations of soliciting for sex and attempted rape.

USA has ulterior motive beyond what is being put out on the media - Evil Empire

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by saintdennis(m): 12:22pm On Jul 23, 2016
MadamExcellency:
Thank Goodness, I have been right from day one.

It takes class and great IQ to know that US Ambassador was telling lies all along. This was a time our Legislators needed us to stand by them - majority failed just because of hatred for Leadership of National Assembly and unwarranted hero worships.

Nigerians are their own worst enemies.

The only country that makes mouth/noise is north korea.

Even russia and usa don't embarrass themselves, they use vague language.

Who fit fight USA? U.S govt can even BAN THESE GUYS FROM ENTERING EUROPE...I ain't kidding.

The U.S ambassador wrote to them, if they were actually enlightened THEY WOULD WRITE BACK asking for proof and if the AMBASSADOR doesn't provide proof the lawmakers will go and parley with buhari.

Buhari will call obama...obama will direct the ambassador to provide proof or tender an apology...END OF STORY.

The embassy of. America is AMERICA in nigeria, they aren't even governed by nigerian laws, nigerian police CANNOT EVEN ENTER THE EMBASSY WITH FIREARM, they cannot arrest anybody even a foreigner if he manages to enter the embassy...they can only wait for him to come out.

If only people understand there are channels to exploit in this case, that ambassador would have been dealt with and humiliated infact his ambassadorial career might have been jeopardised if our house of reps actually had any tact about them

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by andyanders: 12:22pm On Jul 23, 2016
osymerga:
How can these lawmakers be this daft ? Can they invite Obama before them ? They should go for an International Relation course...
Just negodu the embarrassment they are causing us...

The so called lawmakers are just pen robbers who does not even understand their duties. They think they can just have anybody invited to their chamber.
Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by Pavore9: 12:25pm On Jul 23, 2016
MadamExcellency:


You mean by making our Honourable Legislators an object of public disgrace on our own soil?

It is not a crime to get mad at US Ambassador in Nigeria for going beyond insanity and accusing the innocent, let alone our congressmen of grievous offense that can tear their families apart and also kill their careers without a slightest evidence than gossips and hearsay.

From 1999 till date there is nothing Honourable about our legislators or have we not witnessed physical blows in the chambers or scaling of barrier like garage touts?

They have every right to seek legal redress just as l have every right not to feel for them! It is not as if they are in the House for my interest!

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by linearity: 12:27pm On Jul 23, 2016
MadamExcellency:
Thank Goodness, I have been right from day one.

It takes class and great IQ to know that US Ambassador was telling lies all along. This was a time our Legislators needed us to stand by them - majority failed just because of hatred for Leadership of National Assembly and unwarranted hero worships.

Nigerians are their own worst enemies.

If they are telling lies and tarnishing the image of these honorable Reps, then the honorable can sue them and make a world spectacle out of them...They are drag America to a world court and dare them to provide the proof or face sanction for defamation, libel, etc....case close.
Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by linearity: 12:31pm On Jul 23, 2016
saintdennis:


The only country that makes mouth/noise is north korea.

Even russia and usa don't embarrass themselves, they use vague language.

Who fit fight USA? U.S govt can even BAN THESE GUYS FROM ENTERING EUROPE...I ain't kidding.

The U.S ambassador wrote to them, if they were actually enlightened THEY WOULD WRITE BACK asking for proof and if the AMBASSADOR doesn't provide proof the lawmakers will go and parley with buhari.

Buhari will call obama...obama will direct the ambassador to provide proof or tender an apology...END OF STORY.

The embassy of. America is AMERICA in nigeria, they aren't even governed by nigerian laws, nigerian police CANNOT EVEN ENTER THE EMBASSY WITH FIREARM, they cannot arrest anybody even a foreigner if he manages to enter the embassy...they can only wait for him to come out.

If only people understand there are channels to exploit in this case, that ambassador would have been dealt with and humiliated infact his ambassadorial career might have been jeopardised if our house of reps actually had any tact about them

The truth is, the reverse is also true, hence these Honorable were not arrested in the US...Nigeria Ambassador have full immunity in the US, infact they get away with low level crimes like parking tickets that even US citizens cannot...the worst that the US can do is to revoke their visa and send them out of the US.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by Nobody: 12:38pm On Jul 23, 2016
BCISLTD:



Total rubbish...they can deny u visa for looking at them the wrong way...they owe nobody any explanation.

I concur.. the very state of our nation is a direct result of the incompetency of our elected appointed public officials. Majority of the leadership have just WASC result, some are Chairwomen of Tailors associations and some just got married to political godfathers and they have been given the responsibility of moving this nation forward.. why is failure a surprise.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by MadamExcellency: 12:39pm On Jul 23, 2016
Pavore9:


From 1999 till date there is nothing Honourable about our legislators or have we not witnessed physical blows in the chambers or scaling of barrier like garage touts?

They have every right to seek legal redress just as l have every right not to feel for them! It is not as if they are in the House for my interest!

Let's not change the subject of this discourse.

Our Legislators have been ridiculed, battered and disgraced for nothing other than mere gossips.

What becomes of their families (relatives, wives and children)?

What about their Career and public image?

Just put yourself in their shoe to know how it pinches.

Can you imagine being accused of rape in school by a lady you know nothing about and the University Senate approves a guilty verdict by a kangaroo panel and it was pasted on the University Bulletin Board? What will your parents and kinsmen think of you?

It is painful and disastrous to imagine.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by Toofan007: 12:49pm On Jul 23, 2016
David0:


Ur very much on point here. All dis writeup there, is an excuse to cover up d blunders of the US. We all knew they revoke the Visas as a result of d sex scandal.

Now that dey can't provide evidence, they r creating an excuse for their action.

It's a pity a lot of us chose to stand by the US on dis, that's d African inferiority complex towards d white working.

I think d senators shud sue them.
What's African inferiority complex in this matter? if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's probably a f*****king duck!dem law makers are known to behave like that even at home. Also to segue, do you know dem law makers have refused to to give a break down of how they spend the money allocated to them? 150 Billions I might add. Personally, I wouldn't believe anything that emanates from that place.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by chachanga: 12:49pm On Jul 23, 2016
But, the big question still remains:

Were they or were they not Wrongfully Accused?!

It would be a grave order of business if, after all the high-handed posturing, the US ambassador has actually being fagging those Senators and shytting on Nigeria all this while.
Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by David0(m): 12:55pm On Jul 23, 2016
Toofan007:
What's African inferiority complex in this matter? if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's probably a f*****king duck!dem law makers are known to behave like that even at home. Also to segue, do you know dem law makers have refused to to give a break down of how they spend the money allocated to them? 150 Billions I might add. Personally, I wouldn't believe anything that emanates from that place.

Even if we know our law makers to behave that way, does that justify the actions of the US?

How can they take such actions based on hearsay, no evidence, who does that?

They shud b sued, cos their actions is a total disrespect to Nigeria.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by ATERI(m): 12:55pm On Jul 23, 2016
So what was the first offence of these law-makers-raping in America or being rude at the embassy? I`m sure most of you know where I`m going: America set them up because they didn`t take any nonsense from America
Am I the only one that remember the time our law-makers summoned the Spanish ambassador to Nigeria to explain the deaths of Nigerians in that country? It might be unusual but since Spain had nothing to hide, the ambassador went to them.
My personal thanks to those 3 law makers for telling America that they are not like Nigerian slaves betraying their fatherland because of the need to visit America. Shame on all traitors!

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by Pavore9: 12:59pm On Jul 23, 2016
MadamExcellency:


Let's not change the subject of this discourse.

Our Legislators have been ridiculed, battered and disgraced for nothing other than mere gossips.

What becomes of their families (relatives, wives and children)?

What about their Career and public image?

Just put yourself in their shoe to know how it pinches.

Can you imagine being accused of rape in school by a lady you know nothing about and the University Senate approves a guilty verdict by a kangaroo panel and it was pasted on the University Bulletin Board? What will your parents and kinsmen think of you?

It is painful and disastrous to imagine.

I just wish we all feel the same for our fellow Nigerians who are spending time in prisons across the Country for crimes they never committed as it is also painful and disastrous to imagine when they do finally come out they do be tagged ex-convicts for the miscarriage of justice.

The legislators should focus on clearing their names while l invest my sympathy to what is dearer to my heart.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by saintdennis(m): 1:04pm On Jul 23, 2016
linearity:


The truth is, the reverse is also true, hence these Honorable were not arrested in the US...Nigeria Ambassador have full immunity in the US, infact they get away with low level crimes like parking tickets that even US citizens cannot...the worst that the US can do is to revoke their visa and send them out of the US.

Very correct assertion.

The U.S ambassador has done his WORST... like we say in pidgin

But the reps if they got any tact would engage him in dialogue via back channels or go to war against him, serzly these reps be small pikin

Chest beating and noise making is archaic.

I be rep u knack me akpako ban me for 3years ontop...and continue to be an ambassador in my country?
Serzly to think we got alotta graduates of ISD yet naija doesn't have enough diplomatic tact makes me smh.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by aguiyi2: 1:10pm On Jul 23, 2016
HungerBAD:
Their aggressive behavior?

And then there were some urging Dino Maleye here,to continue showing his aggressive nature towards all.

The United States got it right this time.

When I read that they had summoned the US Ambassador,I nearly fell down laughing. It was then,I concluded that the "House" was trying to save face.

Who takes these guys in Abuja serious anyway?those 3 members that got their Visas revoked,will never step foot into the United States again,and they can only see the US on CNN or some Action Movies.

They have joined the likes of Fayose, who can only spell America,but can't go near there.

Their matter is settled.

Their Visa Revocation says 3 Years,but when the Americans revoke your Visa,it is bye bye to the Country.

Getting into a "NO VISA" list on the US Government Data base is easy,getting out from that list is something else.

Even the President of the United States,do not have the powers to remove anybody in that Blacklist.

It took an ACT of Congress in the United States,to remove Nelson Mandela's name from the Data Base of those considered "Terrorists" some years ago,before he could fly into the US after he was released from Jail.


Who ever you are, you have your facts right 90% of the time.Carry go.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by ATERI(m): 1:13pm On Jul 23, 2016
saintdennis:


Very correct assertion.

The U.S ambassador has done his WORST... like we say in pidgin

But the reps if they got any tact would engage him in dialogue via back channels or go to war against him, serzly these reps be small pikin

Chest beating and noise making is archaic.

I be rep u knack me akpako ban me for 3years ontop...and continue to be an ambassador in my country?
Serzly to think we got alotta graduates of ISD yet naija doesn't have enough diplomatic tact makes me smh.

What diplomatic tact? Nigeria needs courageous men like these law-makers to put terrorists from America in their place. Please, give me a break!
Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by Nobody: 1:18pm On Jul 23, 2016
NiGeRianTr0ll:
Statistically, 2 from the East, one from the North...It's safe to conclude South west Senators don't involve In Sex scandals...


US embassy take note

The legislators accused of misconduct are Mohammed Garba Gololo (Bauchi), Samuel Ikon (Akwa Ibom) and Mark Gbillah (Benue).


Please which ones are from the East?
I hope you aren't daft.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by limeta(f): 1:20pm On Jul 23, 2016
This is Nigeria top level operatives
Some of them been there for 20 years plus
Good for us
Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by saintdennis(m): 1:21pm On Jul 23, 2016
ATERI:


What diplomatic tact? Nigeria needs courageous men like these law-makers to put terrorists from America in their place. Please, give me a break!

Typical african mentality.

China hasn't fired a weapon in Africa yet control more than 8 african nations foreign policy.

You here talking about courage...you must be igbo or ijaw.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by banmee(m): 1:23pm On Jul 23, 2016
funlord:
It seems being extremely greedy and foolish is the only requirement needed to become a law maker in this our country?

I hope you understand that you have basically described the average Nigerian. They didn't vote themselves in. It took greedy and foolish citizens to make that happen. Nigerians deserve the leaders they have.
Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by postmann: 1:25pm On Jul 23, 2016
While it's certainly unheard of for a parliament to summon an ambassador before it, ambassadors do get summoned. Nigeria has summoned the South African ambassador. China has summoned the US ambassador, France has summoned the UK ambassador and most recently Russia summoning the French ambassador over football fans treatment at the just concluded EURO 2016.

I believe the Nigerian minister for foreign affairs has the powers to summon the US ambassador.


The US is a natural bully when it relates with much smaller and less powerful countries.

Since they couldn't support their spurious allegations against these lawmakers with evidence, they should have tendered an apology. It's hard not to get provoked by such allegation.

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Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by tundexijim(m): 1:25pm On Jul 23, 2016
MadamExcellency:


Let's not change the subject of this discourse.

Our Legislators have been ridiculed, battered and disgraced for nothing other than mere gossips.

What becomes of their families (relatives, wives and children)?

What about their Career and public image?

Just put yourself in their shoe to know how it pinches.

Can you imagine being accused of rape in school by a lady you know nothing about and the University Senate approves a guilty verdict by a kangaroo panel and it was pasted on the University Bulletin Board? What will your parents and kinsmen think of you?

It is painful and disastrous to imagine.

My brother this is beyond being emotional. They could make things worse for the US just by going to court if they think they were accused wrongly. Law and emotion does not just go together. I'm not saying they were actually guilty of the accusation o but I think they should know the right thing to do.. Infact I still dey wait when our legislooters will summon Buhari...
Re: Why US Withdrew Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal – Minister by Toofan007: 1:25pm On Jul 23, 2016
ATERI:
So what was the first offence of these law-makers-raping in America or being rude at the embassy? I`m sure most of you know where I`m going: America set them up because they didn`t take any nonsense from America
Am I the only one that remember the time our law-makers summoned the Spanish ambassador to Nigeria to explain the deaths of Nigerians in that country? It might be unusual but since Spain had nothing to hide, the ambassador went to them.
My personal thanks to those 3 law makers for telling America that they are not like Nigerian slaves betraying their fatherland because of the need to visit America. Shame on all traitors!
guessing you feeling very patriotic, but chauvinism is what I'm seeing. Why could any country set up any lawmaker from another country? That the said lawmakers are from the Nigerian national assembly that is as useless, as irrelevant as putting a lip stick on a pig makes your assertion, well preposterous

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