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Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mufutau55(m): 5:15pm On Jul 24, 2016
Doors are one of the most important fixture in a house. We don't lay much emphasis on doors, so we don't have any thread that address the importance of doors. Your house/building will be incomplete without correct, good, and properly installed doors.

So discussions here should be about only Doors of any type. Doors come in different sizes and types, so installation are also different.
We have local wooden doors and locally made iron doors. We also have imported wooden doors, iron doors, steel doors, armored doors, glass doors, MDF doors and several others, most of the imported doors are from Turkey and China and many other countries.
Many people here don't know the differences of these doors and which will serve their needs, we just go along with what we like.

Professionals in the doors area, let's educate our people about doors and various ways of installing them.
We want our door sellers, installers, contractors, etc. to also get involved in this discussions.

Please advertisements from door sellers, just discussions that includes the followings:

What makes a good door?
Which type of door is in vogue?
Which type of door is reliable?
Which brands of door are recommendable?
What are necessary for installations of various doors
Price ranges

Thank you.

Hajji M.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mufutau55(m): 5:23pm On Jul 24, 2016
I am posting this good narratives with permission from our Oga Diordaves from the Off-Topic/ General thread that will be very useful to this thread also.

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I was going through bplenty's My 4 Bedroom Project: https://www.nairaland.com/2379099/4-bedroom-project/10 and there was this small hiccups about door sizes. It seemed Kolashangeone and his boys had a mishap with one of the doors for the project which turned out not wide enough. This is a common problem that can be better managed with some understanding of door feature.

There are three sections to finalizing a door: The size of the door recess (door provision), the frame and the size of the door. In Nigeria on average the door space (provision) is about 7 feet high by 3 feet wide i.e 2133 mm by 914 mm. There are door provisions that are narrower like toilet doors or store doors or wider. You must make note if any door is wider than 3 feet as this will call for special attention. See illustration below.

The Frames also serve as a regulator to accommodate the size of the door. So the frame can be made thick or otherwise to accommodate the width of the door.

Now because the height of the door provision is 2133 mm doesn't necessarily mean the accompanying door should also be 2133 mm in height. The door should be shorter to make provision for the frame which act as a regulator and provision for tiling of the floor. Because of the frame and tiling the "standard" height for doors is 1981 mm. Again because the width of the door provision is 3 feet i.e 914 mm doesn't necessarily mean the accompanying door should be 914 mm wide. As the average door recess in Nigeria is 914 mm (3 feet), it should be OK if the door is 762 mm wide or better still 838 mm wide with the frame acting as the regulator. So if you are using 762 mm wide door, your frame will be expected to be thicker than if you are using 838 mm. Now as the average door recess in Nigeria is 914 mm, a door that is 610 mm wide will definitely come up too narrow even after using the frame as regulator.

This is for wooden doors and frames and may not be applicable to Asia metal doors that come with frames. I do not use internal metal doors so not conversant with them. If you have used metal doors internally please share.

See pix below for door frames. Note that it's frame with architraves or door surround.

Originally posted by Oga Diordaves. all compliments goes to him for the good work.

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by danowena: 5:41pm On Jul 24, 2016
smiley Nice one Oga hajj

Before discussing the doors proper, could we find out if subframes for doors are still relevant? I feel I wasted over 800k on subframes but my carpenter tells me otherwise. angry
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by ANBAKO: 6:00pm On Jul 24, 2016
Hajji, Thank you for this thread, that I believe is gonna take a lot of weight off my shoulder and enlighten me on how to move forward with my build because I am confused due to this door issue. I want to get everything ready: Burglary, door, aluminium window before plastering. I can sort out the burglary and the window, but the door is a great concern because I could only find limited info on it.

house door 101
What makes a good door?
Which type of door is in vogue?
Which type of door is reliable?
Which brands of door are recommendable?
Price ranges


Let me stop here for now
Too many questions begging for answer


Do good for good to come your way

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by Dieumerci(m): 6:16pm On Jul 24, 2016
We are here already.

Good one Hajji.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mufutau55(m): 6:49pm On Jul 24, 2016
danowena:
smiley Nice one Oga hajj
Before discussing the doors proper, could we find out if subframes for doors are still relevant? I feel I wasted over 800k on subframes but my carpenter tells me otherwise. angry

I gather from investigations and inquiry that sub-frames are needed from imported wooden doors, but not for internal steel doors.
Our local wooden doors only need real frames, because that is what I have used in the past... but I stand corrected.

Hajji M.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mufutau55(m): 6:56pm On Jul 24, 2016
Oga Anbako, I had to borrow some of your lists to add to the opening post.
I really hope we have people to come and educate us in this thread.
I have the same concern as you do, even though I have gathered some from experience, but nice to read other peoples view.
Thank you.

Hajji M.

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by danowena: 7:56pm On Jul 24, 2016
mufutau55:


I gather from investigations and inquiry that sub-frames are needed from imported wooden doors, but not for internal steel doors.
Our local wooden doors only need real frames, because that is what I have used in the past... bit I stand corrected.

Hajji M.


Nice one Oga hajji, thanks for the education. I totally agree that it won't be needed for metal security doors. I observed that Oga skimanski and Oga segcymoor use it in some of their projects.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mufutau55(m): 8:00pm On Jul 24, 2016
danowena:

Nice one Oga hajji, thanks for the education. I totally agree that it won't be needed for metal security doors. I observed that Oga skimanski and Oga segcymoor use it in some of their projects.

True sir. If you look closely you will see that Skimanski and Segcymoor are mostly using the imported wooden doors with architraves.

Hajji M.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by abdulwastecx(m): 8:36pm On Jul 24, 2016
danowena:
smiley Nice one Oga hajj

Before discussing the doors proper, could we find out if subframes for doors are still relevant? I feel I wasted over 800k on subframes but my carpenter tells me otherwise. angry

800k on subframes? Oga you rich o

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by alstacs(m): 8:37pm On Jul 24, 2016
I love this thread too.
I never knew how important doors are until I visited a friend's buiding ptoject with my wife. When she looked at the doors they just brought in to be installed, she appreciated them.
She quickly reminded him that those doors looked like those in another friend's house. All it took to gain access to her house was just a boot kick to the door. We all laughed over it. When I returned the following day, the man had gone to change the main exit doors, each of the new ones costed him about 500k each. He said he didn't sleep all night; he was thinking about how he would live like a siting duck.
Doors are surely important.

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by danowena: 7:18am On Jul 25, 2016
abdulwastecx:


800k on subframes? Oga you rich o
That includes cost of installing them. The project is sorta big (although I feel I have been seriously ripped off angry ) and I dey follow oga Mufutau's kobo kobo strategy. grin
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by NLresidentQS(m): 11:19am On Jul 25, 2016
Well, Doors 101 class open. grin grin
Anywhere Hajji dey, Na to follow go..

Patapata if client no show, person go sha learn something new.

Eku ise takuntakun sir.

Let me be on the front seat on this historic ride!

God bless Nigeria. cool
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by diordaves(m): 10:26pm On Jul 25, 2016
danowena:

That includes cost of installing them. The project is sorta big (although I feel I have been seriously ripped off angry ) and I dey follow oga Mufutau's kobo kobo strategy. grin

How big is the project? Why the hefty cost outlay?
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mozel247: 6:21am On Jul 26, 2016
Did u mean archtrate or suffrage..? Even achitracte is not more than 15k per one.

abdulwastecx:


800k on subframes? Oga you rich o
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by preggi(m): 6:26am On Jul 26, 2016
Thank you Sir Mufutau. I need the info on doors like air.

Experts.... we await you guys
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by ANBAKO: 6:35am On Jul 26, 2016
Hajji @mufutau55, it's on FP. Sure this is a thread that people are waiting for. Please we want contributions from experts

Do good for good to come your way
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by WeldHome: 6:59am On Jul 26, 2016
ANBAKO:

Hajji, Thank you for this thread, that I believe is gonna take a lot of weight off my shoulder and enlighten me on how to move forward with my build because I am confused due to this door issue. I want to get everything ready: Burglary, door, aluminium window before plastering. I can sort out the burglary and the window, but the door is a great concern because I could only find limited info on it.

house door 101
What makes a good door?
Which type of door is in vogue?
Which type of door is reliable?
Which brands of door are recommendable?
Price ranges


Let me stop here for now
Too many questions begging for answer


Do good for good to come your way



I only know about locally fabricated doors and will talk about that. Now, locally fabricated doors range between 22 - 35k for single doors. I'm going to post from my spreadsheet and experience now..

Locally fabricated doors comes with various kinds of steel materials, depending on the one used by your welder, the prices could be high or low.

1. When single 2 by 2 inches tubings (thin sections) are used as sub frame, with plain steel plates of 1.5mm thickness, expect that to be the lowest quality and this one doest look so good. It's price could range between 22-24k depending on the welder.

2. When plates of 1mm are folded and used as sub-frame, you have a finer design and then the quality of the frame becomes better than that of number 1.

3. Now when different types of tubings (eg, 2 by 2 inches and 1 by 2 inches) to form a frame, especially if such tunings are of thicker sections, you have a strong and classy looking sub-frame that can be used for any type of door (wooden, aluminium, steel, etc). You can't get this kind of frame from just any welder, because we are only a few that does this type.

4. Now the type of door plate also matters a lot. If one is going for strength alone, then plain plates of 2mm or 2.5mm (hardly used for doors but rather for gates) can be used. But if strength and design are required, some predesigned plates are used by welders to make such. This predesigned plates comes in different sizes and types. Some are called China white and has some kind of silvery color if not yet completely rusted (avoid this type) and comes in 1.5mm and 2mm thickness. The darker plates have better quality and doesn't rust easily like the China white. Generally, designed plate doors are more expensive than checkered plate doors while checkered plate doors are more expensive than plain plate doors.

5. If also you want to patronize your local welders, ensure that their doors are precoated with red oxide before main painting. This is because most welders see this as "waste of paint" because they don't know the importance of red oxide.

6. Local steel doors are as strong as the the foreign ones but the foreign ones have better designs. Also, just like trusses (roof trusses also called roofing frames), steel doors are better than wooden doors and last longer in service.

I will post type of doors and their prices (based our prices) on this thread.

Single door with 6" pan frame/2mm plain plate (N29,000)
Single door with 9" pan frame/2mm plain plate (N30,000)
Double doors with 6" pan frame/2mm plain plate (N36,000)
Double doors with 9" pan frame/2mm plain plate (N37,000)
Single door 2 by 2 tube frame/2mm plain plate (N24,500)
Double door with 2 by 2 tube frame/2mm plain plate (N34,500)

Prices for special frames and design plate
Top quality 6 inches frame = N9,000
Lower quality 6inches frame with thin tunings = N6,000
Top quality design plate = N9,500
Lower quality design plate = N7,500

Contact is 07087144519. I'm a Metallurgical and Materials Engineer working with another Metallurgical and Materials Engineer (partner) and a local welder with over 8 years of experience, so I deliver the best in locally fabricated steel products.

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by WASMOG(m): 7:01am On Jul 26, 2016
op pls I have information about different kinds of aluminum windows maybe we can open another thred for windows

Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by WASMOG(m): 7:04am On Jul 26, 2016
Ok
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by Nobody: 7:29am On Jul 26, 2016
Great topic, will be back with my 2cent grin
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by spyder880(m): 7:29am On Jul 26, 2016
Doors? You are welcome grin

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by spyder880(m): 7:33am On Jul 26, 2016
Usually, white doors make me happier.

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by emmabest2000(m): 7:46am On Jul 26, 2016
Interesting...
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by emmadejust(m): 7:53am On Jul 26, 2016
Aluminum doors for toilets

Its have advantage over china toilet doors which when it spoil it doesn't have maintenance values.

Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by Ekugbeh(m): 8:08am On Jul 26, 2016
ANBAKO:

Hajji, Thank you for this thread, that I believe is gonna take a lot of weight off my shoulder and enlighten me on how to move forward with my build because I am confused due to this door issue. I want to get everything ready: Burglary, door, aluminium window before plastering. I can sort out the burglary and the window, but the door is a great concern because I could only find limited info on it.

house door 101
What makes a good door?
Which type of door is in vogue?
Which type of door is reliable?
Which brands of door are recommendable?
Price ranges


Let me stop here for now
Too many questions begging for answer


Do good for good to come your way

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by ola20ng(m): 8:13am On Jul 26, 2016
Good morning people. My toilets are very small in size, so i am planning to go for doors that open outwards to create more space in the toilets. Is that possible? and is there any kind of such doors?
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by VocalWalls: 8:38am On Jul 26, 2016
The door is where you make a first impression... It should show off some confidence.


Check these doors out


Whatever you do, your front door should stand out! And for security reasons, top
quality.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by salabscholar01(m): 9:11am On Jul 26, 2016
ok
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by Dsrooftiles: 9:15am On Jul 26, 2016
Ok
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by Reference(m): 9:45am On Jul 26, 2016
abdulwastecx:


800k on subframes? Oga you rich o

No sir, he is wise, if it was done properly.

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