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Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 1:13pm On Jul 31, 2016
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Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by firstking01(m): 1:32pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
Hello Nairalanders,

I've been going through a lot lately and it's been a source of bother to me.

Something keeps echoing in me that perhaps, there may be a God out there and that I may have really hurt with the things I've been posting lately so I think I just want to be on the safe side just in case there happens to be a "Last Day" (if you know what I mean) thus I think I want to leave Atheism; I feel it's too much of a delusion on me.


BUT........

there is a big problem that has me stuck in this very dilemma.

Guys, please I need your advise on the following.

* GOD:

Yahweh, Allah, Brahman, Buddha, Amadioha, Olodumare, Sango, Zeus, Jupiter, Bel, Asante, Astarte, Moloch, Sugmad, Aliens, Satan, Odin, Dagon, e.t.c.

Which of these Gods should I worship?

* RELIGION:

Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Eckankar, Zoroastranism, Order of Dagon, Wicca, Taoism, Baha'i, Sikhism, Semitic Pagan, Roman Pagan, Heathenism, Buddhism, Celtic Pagan, Gnosticism, e.t.c.

Which of the above religions should I follow?

* HOLY BOOK:

Bible, Qur'an, Veda, Suktras, Book of Satan, Torah, Apocrypha, Gnostic Scriptures, Baha'i Texts, Hellenistic Texts, e.t.c.

Which of the above Holy Books should I believe?

* HAGIOGRAPHY:

Jesus Christ, Muhammad, Buddha, Krisha, Baha'i, Perseus, Merlin, Mani, Anton LaVey, Joseph Smith, e.t.c.

Which of these Holy Men should believe?


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I need an honest opinion please, not just biased trash. What do you suggest that I do?

* when offering me your advice, I'd appreciate it if you state your reason for whatever suggestion you may offer.

* Please and please don't tell me to "pray to God for guidance" because you haven't even told me the "God" to pray to, in what "Religious Style" I should pray, the "Holy Book" I should recall while praying and the "Holy Man" that should be my center of focus while praying. Please don't!! If you can't offer any suggestions just read comments.

Thanks.
Whatever we type here more not really be convincing as this has to do more of spiritual conviction and hence, would love to meet you in person.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by firstking01(m): 1:32pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
Hello Nairalanders,

I've been going through a lot lately and it's been a source of bother to me.

Something keeps echoing in me that perhaps, there may be a God out there and that I may have really hurt with the things I've been posting lately so I think I just want to be on the safe side just in case there happens to be a "Last Day" (if you know what I mean) thus I think I want to leave Atheism; I feel it's too much of a delusion on me.


BUT........

there is a big problem that has me stuck in this very dilemma.

Guys, please I need your advise on the following.

* GOD:

Yahweh, Allah, Brahman, Buddha, Amadioha, Olodumare, Sango, Zeus, Jupiter, Bel, Asante, Astarte, Moloch, Sugmad, Aliens, Satan, Odin, Dagon, e.t.c.

Which of these Gods should I worship?

* RELIGION:

Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Eckankar, Zoroastranism, Order of Dagon, Wicca, Taoism, Baha'i, Sikhism, Semitic Pagan, Roman Pagan, Heathenism, Buddhism, Celtic Pagan, Gnosticism, e.t.c.

Which of the above religions should I follow?

* HOLY BOOK:

Bible, Qur'an, Veda, Suktras, Book of Satan, Torah, Apocrypha, Gnostic Scriptures, Baha'i Texts, Hellenistic Texts, e.t.c.

Which of the above Holy Books should I believe?

* HAGIOGRAPHY:

Jesus Christ, Muhammad, Buddha, Krisha, Baha'i, Perseus, Merlin, Mani, Anton LaVey, Joseph Smith, e.t.c.

Which of these Holy Men should believe?


----------------------------

I need an honest opinion please, not just biased trash. What do you suggest that I do?

* when offering me your advice, I'd appreciate it if you state your reason for whatever suggestion you may offer.

* Please and please don't tell me to "pray to God for guidance" because you haven't even told me the "God" to pray to, in what "Religious Style" I should pray, the "Holy Book" I should recall while praying and the "Holy Man" that should be my center of focus while praying. Please don't!! If you can't offer any suggestions just read comments.

Thanks.
Whatever we type here may not really be convincing as this has to do more of spiritual conviction and hence, would love to meet you in person...dunno if it's possible??
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jul 31, 2016
firstking01:
Whatever we type here more not really be convincing as this has to do more of spiritual conviction and hence, would love to meet you in person.
Meet me in person? For what na? If you go dash me money no problem o.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by firstking01(m): 1:43pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
Meet me in person? For what na? If you go dash me money no problem o.
Lol, wetin i wan give you pass money o...money ain't everything you know.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 1:44pm On Jul 31, 2016
firstking01:
Lol, wetin i wan give you pass me o...money ain't everything you know.
Lol, just teasing bro... So what is it you intend to discuss with me supposing we meet.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Cyberclint: 1:45pm On Jul 31, 2016
I'm not of any religion, but since you said you want a religion seriously you should go for Buddhism there you will get inner peace.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by firstking01(m): 1:48pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
Lol, just teasing bro... So what is it you intend to discuss with me supposing we meet.
How i met GOD and how HE changed my wandering and frustrated life, esp in my academics....GOD is so real dnt be decieved...if i wan type am here, this cyber space won't contain it cool





Mehhnn, this testimony must turn you to GOD trust me.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 1:56pm On Jul 31, 2016
firstking01:
How i met GOD and how HE changed my wandering and frustrated life, esp in my academics....GOD is so real dnt be decieved...if i wan type am here, this cyber space won't contain it cool





Mehhnn, this testimony must turn you to GOD trust me.
Bro, I've heard testimonies from guys who are Muslims and trust me, there are some that are extremely "miraculous" that you would just want to leave your faith for theirs. However, in every religion, there are those who have had encounters that have cemented their faiths for good. Buddhists have had encounters with Buddha, Hindus have had encounters with Brahman, Eckankar have had encounters with Sugmad, the list goes on and on bro. What I'd say about your case (as I would say of all the others) is "It was unto you as you believed"... Faith with a blend of luck saw you through bro. *wink.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by firstking01(m): 2:37pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
Bro, I've heard testimonies from guys who are Muslims and trust me, there are some that are extremely "miraculous" that you would just want to leave your faith for theirs. However, in every religion, there are those who have had encounters that have cemented their faiths for good. Buddhists have had encounters with Buddha, Hindus have had encounters with Brahman, Eckankar have had encounters with Sugmad, the list goes on and on bro. What I'd say about your case (as I would say of all the others) is "It was unto you as you believed"... Faith with a blend of luck saw you through bro. *wink.
You no understand eh...nothing like"luck"...it was a supernatural encounter...i mean one on one with GOD...uptil now i'm still in awe since 2008embarassed…bros, kuku give your life to jesus cos i was once like you until i encountered HIM(JESUS) and my orientation and mentallity about GOD entirely changed.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 2:53pm On Jul 31, 2016
firstking01:
You no understand eh...nothing like"luck"...it was a supernatural encounter...i mean one on one with GOD...uptil now i'm still in awe since 2008embarassed…bros, kuku give your life to jesus cos i was once like you until i encountered HIM(JESUS) and my orientation and mentallity about GOD entirely changed.
smiley when I talk about encounters by people in other religions with GOD, what do you think I mean bro? Over the phone? No bro. They, had one-on-one encounter with GOD (Krishna is the Supreme God to Hindus, Sugmad to Eckankar, Allah to Muslims, etc) check out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LetsNotMeet/comments/4hnnel/my_encounter_on_a_hare_krishna_farm/

https://mrthinkalotblog./2014/05/10/lord-krishna-and-i/



www.nairaland.com/2588138/encounters-spiritual-travellers

And many others


You're emotions, beliefs, imaginations and perhaps, mental imagery got into play with you and of course, as it was with the others, it is an "encounter" for you.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by santafe(m): 2:54pm On Jul 31, 2016
Can i ask a brief quesion, is there any emphirical evidence that disprove the existence of God.?
Can you please show if you have any and
would convert to atheism.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by aaccountable1: 3:01pm On Jul 31, 2016
the only reason there are counterfeits is because there is an original.
basing ur self delusion on the variety of deities does not at all cast a doubt on the existence of a truly omniscient, omnipotent God! o how I love Him.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by aaccountable1: 3:13pm On Jul 31, 2016
now u must think that u are very smart , don't u. tell me u didn't have a self gratifying smirk on ur face while typing......

*[[Rom 1:21-22
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

hmm!! the typical atheist.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by aaccountable1: 3:39pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
smiley when I talk about encounters by people in other religions with GOD, what do you think I mean bro? Over the phone? No bro. They, had one-on-one encounter with GOD (Krishna is the Supreme God to Hindus, Sugmad to Eckankar, Allah to Muslims, etc) check out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LetsNotMeet/comments/4hnnel/my_encounter_on_a_hare_krishna_farm/

https://mrthinkalotblog./2014/05/10/lord-krishna-and-i/



www.nairaland.com/2588138/encounters-spiritual-travellers

And many others


You're emotions, beliefs, imaginations and perhaps, mental imagery got into play with you and of course, as it was with the others, it is an "encounter" for you.
u are the one who has a problem with people having supernatural/spiritual encounters. we religious people generally believe in the existence of spiritual world and have real encounters to back it up...unlike the atheist, who blindly claims that something does not exist simply because he has never encountered it.

the question of which of the spiritual entities or deities is God isn't one u should bother urself with since u do not believe they exist. that is a question for religious people to bother with. A christian will not tell u that Allah does not exist, but that he is a demon and same other deities or gods. Muslims know that Jesus is real but they say that he is not God.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by aaccountable1: 3:59pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
smiley

https://www.reddit.com/r/LetsNotMeet/comments/4hnnel/my_encounter_on_a_hare_krishna_farm/

https://mrthinkalotblog./2014/05/10/lord-krishna-and-i/



www.nairaland.com/2588138/encounters-spiritual-travellers

And many others


You're emotions, beliefs, imaginations and perhaps, mental imagery got into play with you and of course, as it was with the others, it is an "encounter" for you.
about 85% of the world's population believe in the existence of some higher powers.....
sounds like only u and ur small camp of 3-13% are sane.
don't u think u should give this a thought.
what if the majority is right and there is indeed a spiritual rhelm?
what if they are not all mad but there encounters are indeed real?
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 4:17pm On Jul 31, 2016
aaccountable1:
u are the one who has a problem with people having supernatural/spiritual encounters. we religious people generally believe in the existence of spiritual world and have real encounters to back it up...unlike the atheist, who blindly claims that something does not exist simply because he has never encountered it.

the question of which of the spiritual entities or deities is God isn't one u should bother urself with since u do not believe they exist. that is a question for religious people to bother with. A christian will not tell u that Allah does not exist, but that he is a demon and same other deities or gods. Muslims know that Jesus is real but they say that he is not God.
Nowhere did I ever state that. You obviously weren't following my posts well...

I asked in this thread if one could lead me to right God, religion, Book & hagiography and Firstking01 said he had an encounter with GOD. I drew his attention to the fact that people of other faith claim to have had encounter with this GOD too, he says his God made him give his life to Christ while the other I poster the author presumably claims that his God him have faith in Lord Krishna (his Supreme GOD), so the delusion remains:

Which is it? Who is the true God? What makes you think your God (not the other) is Supreme?
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 4:21pm On Jul 31, 2016
santafe:
Can i ask a brief quesion, is there any emphirical evidence that disprove the existence of God.?
Can you please show if you have any and
would convert to atheism.
Of course, there is a God and his name is the BahKoom the Almighty God. If you can give me any empirical evidence that disproves his existence, I will convert to your religion.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 4:24pm On Jul 31, 2016
aaccountable1:
the only reason there are counterfeits is because there is an original.
basing ur self delusion on the variety of deities does not at all cast a doubt on the existence of a truly omniscient, omnipotent God! o how I love Him.
Now you're there. So you could begin by doing me this favour: Which is the Original? What is the prove to support your choice being the original? In fact, what is the proof that there is ONLY ONE Almighty God?
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by aaccountable1: 4:28pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
Nowhere did I ever state that. You obviously weren't following my posts well...

I asked in this thread if one could lead me to right God, religion, Book & hagiography and Firstking01 said he had an encounter with GOD. I drew his attention to the fact that people of other faith claim to have had encounter with this GOD too, he says his God made him give his life to Christ while the other I poster the author presumably claims that his God him have faith in Lord Krishna (his Supreme GOD), so the delusion remains:

Which is it? Who is the true God? What makes you think your God (not the other) is Supreme?
all I see in ur post is sarcasm.

so let's get it straight: do you believe in the existence of the spiritual?
do u believe there are higher powers? Do u believe that God exists?
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jul 31, 2016
aaccountable1:
all I see in ur post is sarcasm.

so let's get it straight: do you believe in the existence of the spiritual?
do u believe there are higher powers? Do u believe that God exists?
For me to have asked to show me the God or Gods that are true, does it look like I know?

I just need a little favour from you. Show me those that these spirits exist (show me with irrefutable and inescapable proof), then show me the God's that exist and then show me which is the TRUE GOD among (with proof of course)... That's all, and watch me believe immediately.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by aaccountable1: 4:37pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
Now you're there. So you could begin by doing me this favour: Which is the Original? What is the prove to support your choice being the original? In fact, what is the proof that there is ONLY ONE Almighty God?
do u believe that there is an ONLY ONE Almighty God?
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by firstking01(m): 4:37pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
Nowhere did I ever state that. You obviously weren't following my posts well...

I asked in this thread if one could lead me to right God, religion, Book & hagiography and Firstking01 said he had an encounter with GOD. I drew his attention to the fact that people of other faith claim to have had encounter with this GOD too, he says his God made him give his life to Christ while the other I poster the author presumably claims that his God him have faith in Lord Krishna (his Supreme GOD), so the delusion remains:

Which is it? Who is the true God? What makes you think your God (not the other) is Supreme?
From the way you are responding to issues here i think you really do not want help, you are just being sacarstic.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 4:41pm On Jul 31, 2016
aaccountable1:
do u believe that there is an ONLY ONE Almighty God?
Why would I believe when you haven't proven to me that there is?
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by aaccountable1: 4:49pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
For me to have asked to show me the God or Gods that are true, does it look like I know?

I just need a little favour from you. Show me those that these spirits exist (show me with irrefutable and inescapable proof), then show me the God's that exist and then show me which is the TRUE GOD among (with proof of course)... That's all, and watch me believe immediately.
lol!
no u will not believe.
next time come out straight and be atheistic. don't hide behind sarcasm.
variety does not exclude the existence of a one true God as much as counterfeits is nothing but further proof that an original exists.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 4:54pm On Jul 31, 2016
firstking01:
From the way you are responding to issues here i think you really do not want help, you are just being sacarstic.
Well this post is over 2 years ago now but the key here is, what makes you sure that your religion is the true religion knowing fully well that it is just one out of 4200? What is the proof behind your certainty that the God you worship is the TRUE God (above the other "TRUE God" as seen by others) when it is just 1 out of millions?

If Nigeria had been colonized by China or India, we most probably wouldn't have had the ideologies we now do. We are following these religions not because we know FIRST of there formulations but because most of us where born into the delusion.

It's unfortunate that many of us are already knee-deep in this to even realize that we are in delusion in the first place. But all the same, that was the purpose of this thread.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by aaccountable1: 4:57pm On Jul 31, 2016
Reiyvinn:
Why would I believe when you haven't proven to me that there is?
let try the premises of ur argument for proof number one. the variety is proof that the one true God exist.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 4:59pm On Jul 31, 2016
aaccountable1:
lol!
no u will not believe.
next time come out straight and be atheistic. don't hide behind sarcasm.
variety does not exclude the existence of a one true God as much as counterfeits is nothing but further proof that an original exists.
You're not getting it. I'm not denying being an atheist. This thread, which is over 2 years + now, was intently sarcastic but with a purpose to let you see from your very own tongue how you'd expose the delusion behind religion.

When you can't simply prove that the God you worship is the ONLY Almighty God while others fake, what then do you preach to unbelievers? To just believe what you say without being adequately convinced?
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 5:01pm On Jul 31, 2016
aaccountable1:
let try the premises of ur argument for proof number one. the variety is proof that the one true God exist.
Ok then, I'm waiting for your proof....
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 5:06pm On Jul 31, 2016
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Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jul 31, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
I'm loving this thread grin
Op just check the pic below
Damn! This moniker of yours is extremely hilarious.
Re: HELP: I Want To Leave Atheism by aaccountable1:
Reiyvinn:
You're not getting it. I'm not denying being an atheist. This thread, which is over 2 years + now, was intently sarcastic but with a purpose to let you see from your very own tongue how you'd expose the delusion behind religion.

When you can't simply prove that the God you worship is the ONLY Almighty God while others fake, what then do you preach to unbelievers? To just believe what you say without being adequately convinced?
sorry, I went for an evening meeting. it was a crusade. it was great as usual. Real miracles! lame walked etc..... how would see when u won't come.

well...
to the topic....
let us establish certain things.
1. you are an atheist. so sad. wish u were not. so let's forget the sarcasm.
so atheist are those who do belief in the existence of any deities. nor the existence of any spiritual being.

2. the fact there are counterfeits of a thing does not disprove that a genuine does exist. but rather the opposite. common sense.

3. Christianity is full of proofs. Our God never told us to come and follow him blindly.
Psa 34:8* O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

note... taste and SEE..
So I can assure you that I have many proofs..
by the way, hallucination is a sign of a central nervous system disorder. a normal human, not suffering from any mental illness cannot suddenly begin to hallucinate. let me repeat....NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT HALLUCINATE.. it seems atheists are extremely generous with their diagnosis; they give it to everybody that disagrees with them.
so far from all of our discussion, have i appeared to u to be mentally unstable? but the moment I start telling u about things that I have seen and experience, u will dish out ur diagnosis.... all atheists are neurologists.lolz
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