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Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by pring: 11:56am On Aug 09, 2016
Nigerians have now realized they are in a one chance bus.
Ayo Fayose.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by PaulIdu: 11:57am On Aug 09, 2016
Budget padding or whatever they call it is clearly economic sabotage and treachery which makes it a class a economic crime ..I hope all involved since 1999 can be brought to book because it clearly didn't start today.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by olaniyi0(m): 11:59am On Aug 09, 2016
OLUJOSHINS:
Abeg make una keep quiet jare.

Dogara this Dogara that & at the end of the day, He will still walk away as a free man
yeah, thats how we roll in 9ja.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Standing5(m): 12:00pm On Aug 09, 2016
Budget padology is corruption.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by TEYA: 12:00pm On Aug 09, 2016
Oyimeoyimemua:
this write up is not fair
why did jibrin wait until he was sacked to speak up I just feel jibrin is part of what he is accusing Dogara of
Apc is not helping matters by asking jibrin to keep quite the fact remains that our politicians are corrupt
It does not matter! If what dogara did is a crime, he should pay for it. If those idíots continue blackmailing themselves then maybe our country will become saner. They don't fear God so maybe the fear of blackmail will get them to do right.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Akinz0126(m): 12:04pm On Aug 09, 2016
Am just here to read comments.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Tamakay(m): 12:04pm On Aug 09, 2016
Just as I was trying to like Dogara and he messed me up.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Nobody: 12:05pm On Aug 09, 2016
I wish every article was written this way
I enjoyed reading it. I wonder what this kind of writing style is called.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by orisa37: 12:07pm On Aug 09, 2016
He probably has a Diploma. My Binu Dictionary explains Padding as Something added, especially extraneously or fraudulently. Na abba is just being rude, nosy and irrelevant.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by CuteTj(m): 12:07pm On Aug 09, 2016
What is budget padding?

Budget padding is cornering projects or allocating more projects to a constituency (especially to self's constituency or friends constituency) which in itself is not a crime.

When it becomes a crime is when the intent is not to carry out project but as a conduit to divert the money differently from the purpose it was stated for in the budget.

My verdict - From a legal point of view, Dogara is correct that budget padding is not corruption. Although morally it is. It is only corruption when you can prove that the intent was to syphon the money or if the intent is not even to syphon money but if the money has been actually syphoned (which in this case it hasn't been syphoned).

The trruth is Dogara may remain on that seat throughout the tenure of the 8th assembly as lawyers may find it hard to prove to the judges that what he did was corruption. The only way Dogara will cease to remain Speaker is if 2/3 of his colleagues remove him (or even if a few since we have had many cases of where quorum wasn't formed but the decision of a few still carried the day over the majority).
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by ElderLoLo: 12:27pm On Aug 09, 2016
Padding of budget is unethical because budget padding means making the budget proposal larger than the actual estimates for the project. This is done either by increasing a project expense or decreasing its expected revenue.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by melodiego: 12:33pm On Aug 09, 2016
I used to admire dogara's gentility bt he has jx proven to be jx anoda nigerian politician
Hw could he say he has 'NEVER' heard of d word 'padding' technically in all his entire life.wateva d year he has lived.
This keeps reminding me of the cries of d great fela kuti..
This guys are hoodlums from a-z no exemption.
It boils down to d fact dt we need revolt as youths..this i crazy.imagine wats goin arnd the nation nw..hunget everywia suffering..n some fellow in his comfortable agbada smiling away a serious question put to him by d press claiming he doesn't knw wat padding is..a lawyer (learned criminal).
thanks for d write up any for making some pple wat dy
got us into by accepting d campaign 1or 2k
Wel I'm waiting for d follow up wit my bottle of life n not pop corn..not exactly expecting a different ending cos we all knw hw ds is goin to die off like it wasnt talked abt..and dts y i choose life beer undecided
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Nobody: 12:42pm On Aug 09, 2016
What is d function of the rep if padding is a corruption practice?
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Oyimeoyimemua(f): 12:42pm On Aug 09, 2016
TEYA:
It does not matter! If what dogara did is a crime, he should pay for it. If those idíots continue blackmailing themselves then maybe our country will become saner. They don't fear God so maybe the fear of blackmail will get them to do right.
it matters oh because jibrin makes me belive he was disgruntled
and the budget was signed even with the alleged padding
I am not interested in politics but we all know it is dirty in Nija

I was taken aback when d Apc asked jibrin to keep quite
there is more to it
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by ioyetunji(m): 12:47pm On Aug 09, 2016
He doesn't know it's corruption or he's just fooling around

Oga o!
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Oyimeoyimemua(f): 12:48pm On Aug 09, 2016
Harwoyeez:
U maybe right tho but there's no time frame in instituting legal proceedings against any culprit what matters most is whether d offense was committed or not
And y do u think the Apc asked jibrin to speak no further on the matter
Don't forget that the so called padded budget has been signed by the presidency
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Oahray: 12:48pm On Aug 09, 2016
eph12:
If you read this completely you should be given medal
I did. It's not that long na. Good read if you ask me.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by 989900E: 12:49pm On Aug 09, 2016
CuteTj:
What is budget padding?

Budget padding is cornering projects or allocating more projects to a constituency (especially to self's constituency or friends constituency) which in itself is not a crime.

When it becomes a crime is when the intent is not to carry out project but as a conduit to divert the money differently from the purpose it was stated for in the budget.

My verdict - From a legal point of view, Dogara is correct that budget padding is not corruption. Although morally it is. It is only corruption when you can prove that the intent was to syphon the money or if the intent is not even to syphon money but if the money has been actually syphoned (which in this case it hasn't been syphoned).

The trruth is Dogara may remain on that seat throughout the tenure of the 8th assembly as lawyers may find it hard to prove to the judges that what he did was corruption. The only way Dogara will cease to remain Speaker is if 2/3 of his colleagues remove him (or even if a few since we have had many cases of where quorum wasn't formed but the decision of a few still carried the day over the majority).
The best breakdown so far.

And, the part in bold is the 'whole truth'.

The major problem Dogara will have is, Jibrin and other witnesses testifying against him as co-conspirators to pad and defraud . . . especially if they have any tangible evidence to back it up -- that fries Dogara!
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by eleko1: 12:50pm On Aug 09, 2016
sad sad wetin consign dogara and oda lunatic thieves how we survive,? They are the shoeless one goats.To them, STEALING IS NOT CORRUPTION/PADDLING. Bastards
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by NonFarmPayrol: 12:56pm On Aug 09, 2016
MadCow1:
Wait lemme park so I can comment...


https://i.imgur.com/3cs2G1a.gif
cool
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by eph12(m): 12:59pm On Aug 09, 2016
Oahray:
I did. It's not that long na. Good read if you ask me.
You kidding right? Anyways I couldn't find anything fascinating when I scanned through, just the usual hullabaloo. More interested in if there's going to be an investigation and what's going to come from it if there will be.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by p1jiobi: 12:59pm On Aug 09, 2016
Mr op. U wasted all this mb to write crappppp. Well I see u are not a lawyer. So let me spare u a piece of my learned mind. But u can save your self the ignominy of publishing your ignorance by sticking with issues u are better acquainted with.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Oahray: 1:09pm On Aug 09, 2016
eph12:
You kidding right? Anyways I couldn't find anything fascinating when I scanned through, just the usual hullabaloo. More interested in if there's going to be an investigation and what's going to come from it if there will be.
oh well, everyone is different. I usually enjoy a well presented logical discourse.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by TEYA: 1:18pm On Aug 09, 2016
Oyimeoyimemua:
it matters oh because jibrin makes me belive he was disgruntled
and the budget was signed even with the alleged padding
I am not interested in politics but we all know it is dirty in Nija

I was taken aback when d Apc asked jibrin to keep quite
there is more to it
Of course jibrin was disgruntled, did you expect him to expose dogara out of pure love for the common man? If Nigerian politicians abstain from stealing public funds for the fear of being blackmailed then it will be victory for democracy and the common man. If you wait for a saint of a politician that will expose the evil perpetrated in Nigerian politics because they love the common man then you will wait forever. They don't care about us. We fight ourselves for their sakes, maybe now reverse should be the case.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Misterdhee1(m): 1:21pm On Aug 09, 2016
The budget is yet to be fully implemented. Dogara and his men can only be prosecuted if they fail to use the inserted funds appropriately. Which I think they won't be stupid enough to embezzle. Itsnt wrong constitutionally, but perhaps in moral terms.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Oyimeoyimemua(f): 1:41pm On Aug 09, 2016
TEYA:
Of course jibrin was disgruntled, did you expect him to expose dogara out of pure love for the common man? If Nigerian politicians abstain from stealing public funds for the fear of being blackmailed then it will be victory for democracy and the common man. If you wait for a saint of a politician that will expose the evil perpetrated in Nigerian politics because they love the common man then you will wait forever. They don't care about us. We fight ourselves for their sakes, maybe now reverse should be the case.
But u and I know that blackmail doesn't hit our politicians out of office instead the develope a thick skin and look for soft landing
my shock was Apc asking jibrin not to speak further publicly
this is a party that I believed to be fighting corruption
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by shellman: 1:42pm On Aug 09, 2016
Oyimeoyimemua:
this write up is not fair
why did jibrin wait until he was sacked to speak up I just feel jibrin is part of what he is accusing Dogara of
Apc is not helping matters by asking jibrin to keep quite the fact remains that our politicians are corrupt
Whether Jubrin reported in good time or late in reporting, a crime is committed. Or rather whether he took part or not does not matter-a crime has been committed!
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by sofat(m): 1:58pm On Aug 09, 2016
Landloard01:
Dogara has seen padding a tradition...It has been happening and no action was taken. Tell me, how wouldn't he be confident enough to say Padding is never or in any way "corruption".! He believed in the traditional definition of corruption, were cash is shared at a cool dining. Believe it or not, everybody is corrupt, as far as this country is concern...

When you were in school, you padded a list for parents/caretakers. When demanding some money from your husband to buy food stuffs, you must pad. Why don't you return most of those balance when you were sent on errands those days? Obviously, Dogara is looking at corruption as defined by Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary.... Meanwhile, the true definition of corruption in there is not what we need to believe in this country. PMB is not using that dictionary. Dogara needs to be reminded that illicit arrangements are gross corruptions.

perhaps, Corruption in developing countries continues to be one of the greatest factors of poverty, development and internecine conflicts. We must change the orientation of our people through setting strong institutions, not setting strong leaders. Dogara is not a good leader following his recent statement on the padding saga (padding is not corruption).


Nigeria will continue to struggle and scramble for position in the lower rungs of the United Nations Development Index. I wonder while pressure to develop his constituency must be fulfilled through corrupt means.

In as much as there is massive hatred for PMB, we must also understand that we need to set the records straight, through the current affairs of the country. Fight corruption using any approach, witch-hunt, devil hunt, any hunt. What I am telling you here is that, our representatives are not honourable and should not be honoured.

You can rant and say whatever thing you want, siding openly with the corrupt leaders, but remember you are not the last generation to this country. We need to kill the giant ants biting us under the garment for the next generation to be able to sleep well at night.
Confirm you make sense die!
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Deen77: 2:22pm On Aug 09, 2016
pring:
Nigerians have now realized they are in a one chance bus.
Ayo Fayose.
Tell Fayose, one chance bus expose PDP secret for years on budgeting.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by TEYA: 2:53pm On Aug 09, 2016
Oyimeoyimemua:
But u and I know that blackmail doesn't hit our politicians out of office instead the develope a thick skin and look for soft landing
my shock was Apc asking jibrin not to speak further publicly
this is a party that I believed to be fighting corruption
In Nigeria there is no party that is fighting corruption, its a personal thing. A politician is either corrupt or not corrupt. Anti corruption is not a virtue any Nigerian political party can uphold. Even we the people are not ready to stand against corruption now
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by DamiBukola: 3:26pm On Aug 09, 2016
Op pls go and hug transformer, there is no offence in Nigeria known as padding. Pls do read section 181 and 182 of the CFRN and take a hot bottle of origin.
Re: Dogara Needs To Go Back To Law School Because Budget Padding Is Corruption by Nobody: 3:35pm On Aug 09, 2016
Padding is corruption, corruption is a DEADLY disease, DEATH SENTENCE is the CURE!
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