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donnie:
comedians everywhere

ah Wetin concine me. Go ask Hollywood wen de teach una to challo your husband. How many get stable marriage?

BloodOnMyHands:
Stop callings me lezbian

And you have never answered this question; do you have Nigerian roots, any?

[color=#0099ff]you've always talked sexual 2 me. It has nothing 2 do with what I called you [/color]

I didn't even bother to read... This is probably the reason why his marriage failed! And any husband that thinks this way is a complete failure who has refused to appreciate the worth of a woman by his side. Your wife shouldn't be your slave, she should be a companion and helpmate.

Seun:
Religion and sexism are close pals. You cannot separate them from each other. Personally, I think it's shocking that all women are not atheists.

You ignored 'traditions and culture' too? Do you think our traditions should be upheld?

repogirl:
I pity people who swallow the words of their pastors hook line and sinker instead of reading the Bible for themselves in order to understand it.

So, my husband is the master while I am slave abi? Very funny.
I understand that the husband is the head of the household, just as how Christ is the head of the Church.

Now, Christ the Lord and saviour who is the head of the church and son of God Almighty brought him self so low that he washed his disciples feet. Now which master /Slave relationship works that way?

These men are deluding themselves, megalomaniacs looking for respect and worship by force. God has made men and women equal heirs to his kingdom, how much more here on earth.

Granted men and women play different roles in the family but saying a wife doesn't qualify as an adviser or what not is totally wrong. Both should work together, the man doing his part and the woman supporting him where ever he needs support, not just pleasing him like a freaking puppet or doll.

This Pastor sounds as if women are to become 'oh yes master' all the time even if she is dying within, even if the husband is a violent monster who keeps battering her because he enjoys it. Or if he is a drunk womaniser who doesn't take care of his family.

Respect is very well earned and not by force or not because one so called man of God tells you that you are the master. Even masters need good counsel from subordinates all the time, so what is one so called man of God who could not hold his marriage together talking about?

did you read the post at all?

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#0099ff]you've always talked sexual 2 me. It has nothing 2 do with what I called you [/color]

Yes. Answer my question, do you have any Nigerian roots? You stubborn American

repogirl:
I pity people who swallow the words of their pastors hook line and sinker instead of reading the Bible for themselves in order to understand it.

So, my husband is the master while I am slave abi? Very funny.
I understand that the husband is the head of the household, just as how Christ is the head of the Church.

Now, Christ the Lord and saviour who is the head of the church and son of God Almighty brought him self so low that he washed his disciples feet. Now which master /Slave relationship works that way?

These men are deluding themselves, megalomaniacs looking for respect and worship by force. God has made men and women equal heirs to his kingdom, how much more here on earth.

Granted men and women play different roles in the family but saying a wife doesn't qualify as an adviser or what not is totally wrong. Both should work together, the man doing his part and the woman supporting him where ever he needs support, not just pleasing him like a freaking puppet or doll.

This Pastor sounds as if women are to become 'oh yes master' all the time even if she is dying within, even if the husband is a violent monster who keeps battering her because he enjoys it. Or if he is a drunk womaniser who doesn't take care of his family.

Respect is very well earned and not by force or not because one so called man of God tells you that you are the master. Even masters need good counsel from subordinates all the time, so what is one so called man of God who could not hold his marriage together talking about?

My understanding (and this is the largely orthodox christian interpretation) is that indeed it is a master-slave relationship where the slave is obligated to obey the Master while the master is obligated to love (seek/serve the slave's good before his).

so respect is not earned in marriage. the wife is obligated to respect and submit to her husband even if he is not worthy of her respect
love is not earned. The husband obligatorily seeks the wife's good even if she is malicious, wicked and undeserving of his love.

Loving someone means seeking the person's good. To seek someone's good, you need to understand the person and then know what is best for the person.

diva90:
I didn't even bother to read... This is probably the reason why his marriage failed! And any husband that thinks this way is a complete failure who has refused to appreciate the worth of a woman by his side. Your wife shouldn't be your slave, she should be a companion and helpmate.

Ok now you can go back and read. Dont feel bad afterwards, just correct yourself.

BloodOnMyHands:
Yes. Answer my question, do you have any Nigerian roots? You stubborn American

[color=#9999ff]no[/color]

josite:
hard lessons bring us to the point of truth,now pastor chris is now telling it the way it really is.the woman who cannot kneel down and hand over her full salary to you ,the husband with joy is not your wife.she is your partner.when a woman submits the money she sweats for to you,then submission in every other area of life comes easy.

This is GOD inspired message.because many marriages are on the verge of being destroyed right now.


if u cant submit your salary to him ,girls ,dont marry him.this is actually what broke pastor chris marriage,the wife said his idea of submission is too extreme.

"The woman who cannot kneel down and hand over her full salary to you ,the husband with joy is not your wife".....In this present time? Bros, you are not yet ready to get married!

If my younger sister tells me the guy she is dating, expects her to be handing over her salary to him when they get married all l will advise her is to end that relationship!

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#9999ff]no[/color]

ok. I find you fascinating even thought we're polar opposites in social views

for me I think we need a balance in this issue, women are to submit to their husbands while the men are supposed to love their wives so much.
But in our societies today the women are not submitting, the men on the other hand are not loving. This scenario has led to so much issues and problems in today's marriages.
Moreover the issue of feminism has done so much harm to our society today, although the feminism debacle was also inflamed by a lot of heartless men. Many women today are very stubborn, that is why Men before going into marriage must ensure that the man in question has the capacity to love their woman very much and at the same time ensure they marry a woman that has the capacity to obey, submit and respect them.
This way the marriage will be less prone to crisis.

Then as a Christian let me explain the correct approach or model for Christian marriages based on studies I did from the scripture. I will quote my text from Ephesians chapter 5

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

The wife should submit to the husband

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

The husband should love the wife as Christ love the Church and gave himself to it

verse 26 to 29 tells us how

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

note what verse 26 and 27 stated that Christ sanctified and cleansed the Church which in marriage context your wife is not perfect, she has issues but you are meant to learn to correct her in love that is what it means by cleansing her , it means overlooking her weaknesses, loving her, finding the right way to correct her in love

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

verse 28 and 29 even went on to say that loving your wife is like loving your own body, you wash your body, give it good delicious food when it is hungry that is the same way you are supposed to love your wife. look at those two words nourish and cherish, to nourish means to provide with the right nutrient, that is the way you handle your woman, provide for her, take good care of her, lavish her with love and care, in fact take care of her needs before your own needs, even in bed, then cherish her, place a great value on her

St Paul to me was one of the most intelligent men that ever walked this earth, his level of deep thinking was too much.
then look at what verse 32 said This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

what St Paul was implying here was that marriage is even less mystery compared to the deep mystery between Christ and the church, he was showing that the main thing was even the love relationship btw Christ and the Church. Many people dont understand this and may not understand it till they leave this earth The Lord Jesus Christ so much loved the Church or body of believers, also many dont also understand that God is love, the Greatest attribute of God is love, we humans dont even know what love is all about, we think love is just sexual feeling, no love is so much deeper than that, why many people will be crying when they die is that then they will realize how much God loved them but they never surrenders to Him. The whole essence of marriage is love.let me finally define love from !1 Corinthians 13, another classic by St Paul

New Living Translation (NLT)

4 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud 5 or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. 6 It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. 7 Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

Thanks and God bless you all

BloodOnMyHands:
ok. I find you fascinating even thought we're polar opposites in social views

[color=#00cccc]Yeah. I'm sure you find many women fascinating.
I'm not interested in this,Lezz.
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Hey,can you tell me where Decker went? [/color]

Male and female gender can never ever be equal, even the women knows that... When I wake up in the morning and hold my d1ck strong, I say God you are great... In my next life I rather be a male animal like dog, cat or even mosqitos than be a female human... women have many natural problem and i feel for them, but they dont feel for themselves... That their monthly stuff is frustrating, then 9month assignment is hell and still they say they want to be equal to a man! Dem, thats suicide.... God has given man the staff of authority and that the d1ck, so ladies you better obey, if you have any complain, tell that to your creator.

donnie:
Settle down, read the post again, you will find your answers and peace thereby.

I will urge you to go read this book "The Purpose and Power of Woman" by Myles Munroe, It will bless you and broaden your understanding on the place of the woman in everything!

Twaci:
Is he trying to say we have no right to be opinionated when married?

We should agree to whatever our "masters" say?

This particular sermon is unsettling

Did you read the piece at all? Oya check 2nd to the last paragraph you will see this; When you want to correct your husband, don’t lord it over him,present it as a wise suggestion. Humble yourself and be smart. A wise woman will always be an influence to her husband, the foolish one will always annoy the husband, make him mad, make him angry and when you make him angry, you will be the victim.

adewale2011:
Male and female gender can never ever be equal, even the women knows that... When I wake up in the morning and hold my d1ck strong, I say God you are great... In my next life I rather be a male animal like dog, cat or even mosqitos than be a female human... women have many natural problem and i feel for them, but they dont feel for themselves... That their monthly stuff is frustrating, then 9month assignment is hell and still they say they want to be equal to a man! Dem, thats suicide.... God has given man the staff of authority and that the d1ck, so ladies you better obey, if you have any complain, tell that to your creator.

And what have said? Nothing. Absolutely nothing!! You may as well make dogs, cats and mosquitoes your friends and relations!

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#00cccc]Yeah. I'm sure you find many women fascinating.
I'm not interested in this,L.ezz.
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Hey,can you tell me where Decker went? [/color]

I haven't even started hitting on you and you're already running! I find you fascinating and you're saying you aren't interested? You didn't even ask what I found fascinating about you?

Hmm...I think there is a lot of truth in this message !

The problem with the world today is religion has taken over critical thinking. We have people quoting the old testament and yet, if you point out inconsistencies in their logic, the will say that rule no longer applies because they now use the new testament. If you're taking relationship advice from a man who has failed in his marriage and has gone against the bible in leaving his wife, then you're stupid. It's like taking financial advice from someone who just got bankrupt.

The husband is the head of the relationship and the wife should not undermine his authority while the man must respect and love his wife. However, a marriage is a partnership and each partner has a role to play in order to make marriage successful. If you're getting married because you want a slave that will cook, clean and bear your children, go to the village and pick up and uneducated girl. But don't be surprised when she also wises up and leaves your ass the way Oyakhilome's wife left him.

And yet, if Muslims say what he said, you (Christians) consider them backward and barbaric, right? Bunch of hypocrites!

I am not a fan of Pastor Chris but why do Nigerians always speak publicly against what they secretly desire.

For the guys against what the Pastor said it is either you are single or living in denial. and for the Ladies here i will say if you want peace in your home follow this principle and your husband will love you forever.

If you read the post properly you will see the part he said a woman has influence on her husband not by forcing her opinion on him.

The bible is clear on the issue of Marriage: Men love your wifes and Women submit to your own husbands. Women in the bible called their husband's LORD which means Master in Hebrew e.g Sarah, Ruth etc. A woman that submits makes it easier for the husband to love her.

I'm a christian and would not oppose this teaching because it is coming from Pst Chris, We should stop taking things personal.
Any Man who desires a woman that has same authority with him in Marriage, God will answer your prayer and give you your heart desires.

And for those saying he could not hold down his marriage: it takes 2 people to be married and when one party says i want out you can't force them, some of you will understand what i'm saying because there might be 1 or 2 people around who have gone through divorce, it could be your parents, sister, brother, cousin, uncle or aunt.

monex:
My understanding (and this is the largely orthodox christian interpretation) is that indeed it is a master-slave relationship where the slave is obligated to obey the Master while the master is obligated to love (seek/serve the slave's good before his).

so respect is not earned in marriage. the wife is obligated to respect and submit to her husband even if he is not worthy of her respect
love is not earned. The husband obligatorily seeks the wife's good even if she is malicious, wicked and undeserving of his love.

Loving someone means seeking the person's good. To seek someone's good, you need to understand the person and then know what is best for the person.

the slave master relationship is not one of love but obligation of the slave to the master where the master has no feelings toward the slave.

The Bible said men love your wives as Christ loves the church...not as master loves his slave

pippimp:
Guy. The fraudster/pastor is talking rubbish. Husband means "PARTNER" not master. They both compliment each other. What he should have said was, traditionally, the husband is expected to "LEAD". It is normal for one of two partners to lead. That's just how it is. But to claim that the man is the master is just stupidity on his part. I wonder why people listen to people like this?

Husband means partner to you? Meaning you can call your business partners your husbands?

You called him a fraudster, stupid... we shouldn't listen to Pastor Chris but to you?

You need help, maybe brain surgery.

I just love this MOG for so many reasons. Listen to his audio titled'' time value ''. And this topic again, I just love him more.

donnie:
Husband means partner to you? Meaning you can call your business partners your husbands?

You called him a fraudster, stupid... we shouldn't listen to Pastor Chris but to you?

You need help, maybe brain surgery.

Lol. Seriously? your logic is comparable to a 12 year old's. How do some people think? Soon he will say he went to school. I will play along though. When you get married, don't treat your spouse like a partner. Your marriage will last longer if you have the master/slave relationship. And keep listening to these fraudsters. They are very appreciative. I hear he is looking to build another mansion with your donations. Don't forget to contribute. And you might wanna read through my posts. Your life will never be the same. The enlightenment you will receive will equal to being born again 100 times.

sirliu:
If you're taking relationship advice from a man who has failed in his marriage and has gone against the bible in leaving his wife, then you're stupid. It's like taking financial advice from someone who just got bankrupt.

Did he leave his wife or his wife left him?
If you know the truth correct yourself otherwise we can safely conclude that you are not only a liar but too stupid to realise that your deception will easily be uncovered.

kaboninc:
Amicable09 ohhh

Quivah...

You peeple sud coman chi chom ching!!!

Lol. I will take my time to go through the comments on this thread if there are any.
But let me add that he is right though I don't agree with him on the position that women were not originally intended to be created by God, thereby making the creation of women sound like an "after thought". Not right and unscriptural. I disagree.

However, just the same way Sarah called her husband- Abraham, lord, and they lived peacefully so should daughters of Sarah do.
Marriage is no joke. If you can't submit to a man, don't marry him! If I don't respect a particular guy, no matter how rich or influential he is, I'm not marrying because there's no point marrying a guy I'll disrespect. If he says "Sit!" and I find myself saying "I won't!", then I'm not to move into the same house with that fellow. It just makes no sense to say 'I do" when my heart says "I never will". That's my view.