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Grace one of the most debated topic in the comity of faith. Thanks op for throwing more lights to this.

The problem is a lot people don't even know what sin is,some actually think sin is when you do something wrong,according to the bible SIN is transgression of the law,that law was given to Moses to give to the children of Isreal,that law is not applicable to a child of God cause the day you give your life to God you can no longer sin cause the problem of sin has been delt with on the cross,back in the Old Testament they used to offer animals as a sacrifice to God,those blood of animals that were used then couldn't really cleanse their sin all the blood could do was to cover it,but when Jesus died only the blood of Jesus was able to cleanse our sins that's why the criteria of making heaven as a Christian is to believing and accepting Jesus Christ,now grace is a gift from God by your own handwork you cannot get it but Jesus was able to make it available for us through his death and resurrection,that's why the bible say that sin shall have no dominion over you cause we are not under the law but by grace are we all safe,Grace is not a license to sin but grace waives your sins away

God forbid!!

Salvation involves three steps:-

FORGIVENESS OF SIN

DELIVERANCE FROM SIN

VICTORY OVER SIN

finally unleashing your powers, treasures and dividends as a christian through FAITH

simple!!!

thats what Christianity is all about...

Its not a RELIGION
its a WAY OF LIFE

Omojohnny100:
The problem is a lot people don't even know what sin is,some actually think sin is when you do something wrong,according to the bible SIN is transgression of the law,that law was given to Moses to give to the children of Isreal,that law is not applicable to a child of God cause the day you give your life to God you can no longer sin cause the problem of sin has been delt with on the cross,back in the Old Testament they used to offer animals as a sacrifice to God,those blood of animals that were used then couldn't really cleanse their sin all the blood could do was to cover it,but when Jesus died only the blood of Jesus was able to cleanse our sins that's why the criteria of making heaven as a Christian is to believing and accepting Jesus Christ,now grace is a gift from God by your own handwork you cannot get it but Jesus was able to make it available for us through his death and resurrection,that's why the bible say that sin shall have no dominion over you cause we are not under the law but by grace are we all safe,Grace is not a license to sin but grace waives your sins away

Salvation involves three steps:-

FORGIVENESS OF SIN

DELIVERANCE FROM SIN

VICTORY OVER SIN

finally unleashing your powers, treasures and dividends as a christian through FAITH

simple!!!

thats what Christianity is all about...

Its not a RELIGION
its a WAY OF LIFE

Tallesty1:
People actually don't seem to get what Christianity means, Christians are new creations (2 Corinthians 5:17). Christians demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23), not the acts of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21). So it doesn't matter what you do in church, what society you belong to, or how many hours you spend in church daily, if Christianity cannot be seen in your day to day activities then you're simply not a Christian.



In Paul's voice "Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?" (Romans 6:1-2).

Can we please read on from:
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "You shall not covet."Rom 7:8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.Rom 7:9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.

Keep reading till you get to the end of Romans 16.

The Grace Christ came to bring is the Power to completely live Above and Beyond the boundaries of Sin and Disobedience. To obey and live a holy life daily as your natural being....that is Grace.

There are many men with bushy hair walking the streets of cities, tell me, does it mean that barbers do not exist??

There are barber shops but how many will carry themselves there?


Same with God and Grace!

Grace is available to all but how many are actually tapping into it and using it??

It is our responsibilty to accept and obtain Grace needed at any time for anything. God won't do that for us... He has made it available. So don't blame God for Buhari's nonsense. If he wants Grace, he should go get it!!!!


The Bible says, "let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of Grace that we may receive mercy and FIND GRACE to help in time of need" (hebrews 4:16).

So you see? Grace is to be found and if you need more Grace, simply approach the "Throne of Grace"

The Bible says something about an "abundance of Grace" in Romans.5v17. So one's grace can be less than abundant... And one has to receive this abundance of Grace sef...

Now Note: The Bottomline is this, This Kind of Grace is meant for the Man in Christ not the man outside Christ. So if for instance, you want Buhari to benefit, then make him a Christian. Lollll...

But even at that, there's a grace made available for leadership regardless of religion. All he needs to do is tap into the right principles of leaderhship and such grace will be activated for him.


Super Bottomline: It is up to us to Receive what has already been given.

GossipHeart:
What is grace ??

If grace or God exists, God would have given Buhari the grace to fix the problems he created for Nigeria.

Or he would have given him the grace to have a working brain

PRINCEZUKO1:
The Grace Christ came to bring is the Power to completely live Above and Beyond the boundaries of Sin and Disobedience. To obey and live a holy life daily as your natural being....that is Grace.

Not arguing, but lets reason this. If Christ came to bring power to live above sin, then no one who died before Christ being revealed should be blamed of sin since they had no power to keep the law and not sin.

What Christ came to do is simple; Show you the Father and remind you of who you are. SONS OF GOD.

GossipHeart:
What is grace ??

If grace or God exists, God would have given Buhari the grace to fix the problems he created for Nigeria.

Or he would have given him the grace to have a working brain

Buhari is not a Christian. He doesn't believe in grace. Infact the doctrine he believes is totally different from that of christians. Christianity teaches love, forgiveness and mercy.

dueal:
Not arguing, but lets reason this. If Christ came to bring power to live above sin, then no one who died before Christ being revealed should be blamed of sin since they had no power to keep the law and not sin.

What Christ came to do is simple; Show you the Father and remind you of who you are. SONS OF GOD.

Not really, even they before Christ knew the Father....but you see, the laws which they were given was not entirely that which pertained unto Holiness.
Jesus said they were given those laws then according to their nature.... Yet they still fell short of those Laws.
Now Jesus came and gave instances of the real Holiness but affirmed that He isn't given them as Laws now that we should live by, rather He gave us Grace to live out that life.

I pray for His grace all the days of our life that we shall dwell in the House of our Lord Jesus Christ forever and ever. Amen!

There is not a righteous man without sin
- King David

Pray after this manner: Father forgive us our sin as we forgive those who sined against us
- Jesus Christ

Whosoever is born of God does not sin because His seed remaineth in him and he/she cannot sin
-1John

These three quote are found in the holy Bible.
After a careful consideration of these quote, I come to a conclusion that a christian is not somebody that turn to an angel on earth but someone who hears the word of God and give his/her life to Christ to the saving of his/her soul. He/she will commit sin depending on her spiritual state at the time because there is what is called TEMTATION. And if he/she is not spiritually strong (walking in the spirit) he/she ll fulfil (sin) the desire of the flesh.

So there is no such thing as licience to commit sin. It is about the spiritual state a the beliver.

[quote author=GossipHeart post=49256292]What is grace ??

If grace or God exists, God would have given Buhari the grace to fix the problems he created for Nigeria.

Or he would have given him the grace to have a working brain[/quote
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GRACE is a PERSON and His name is JESUS CHRIST

If righteousness is a gift, then grace is the reason you have that gift. YOU ARE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN CHRIST.

Rom 11:6 And if by Grace, then it is No Longer of Works; otherwise Grace is No Longer Grace. But if it is of Works, it is No Longer Grace; otherwise Work is No Longer Work.

Truly Grace doesn't licence believers to sin but if we do, that doesnt make believers sinners before God because all their sins (past, present, future) had been paid for. Their salvation is based on FAITH ALONE i.e BELIEVING and TRUSTING in JESUS' sacrifice (EPH 2:8-9, GAL 2:16, ROM 10:9-10)

Righteousness does not come from the deeds of the Law but only in BELIEVING in JESUS (GAL 2: 21  I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain), (ROM 4: 3  For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness).

SIN has no dominion over believers anymore because they are not justified by the deeds of the Law but only by FAITH i.e BELIEVING and TRUSTING in the FINISHED WORK OF JESUS (GAL 2:1 6  Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.), (ROM 3: 28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.)

Grace is a PERSON and His name is JESUS. He alone bore all our iniquities, suffered on our behalf and delivered us from the wraths of God (ROM 8: 1  There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus)


1 JOHN 2: 1  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

JESUS paid it all. All that is needed of you is to TRUST and CONFESS Him (ROM 10: 9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved)

This is really impressive. Remain blessed.

GossipHeart:
What is grace ??

If grace or God exists, God would have given Buhari the grace to fix the problems he created for Nigeria.

Or he would have given him the grace to have a working brain

Mr man, while the chance is there, I can still repent. cos a natural man can never understand the things of d spirit. repent before it becomes too late. Grace is real. God is real.

GossipHeart:
What is grace ??

If grace or God exists, God would have given Buhari the grace to fix the problems he created for Nigeria.

Or he would have given him the grace to have a working brain

Mr man, while the chance is there, u can still repent. cos a natural man can never understand the things of d spirit. repent before it becomes too late. Grace is real. God is real.

GossipHeart:
What is grace ??

If grace or God exists, God would have given Buhari the grace to fix the problems he created for Nigeria.

Or he would have given him the grace to have a working brain

Mr man, while the chance is there, I can still repent. cos a natural man can never understand the things of d spirit. repent before it becomes too late. Grace is real. God is real.

MadCow1:
Yes..


If we don't sin and pray for forgiveness regularly, then Jesus died in vain.

That's why I sin regularly.

I now see y ure a madcow...the very first of Nigeria

piagetskinner:
I now see y ure a madcow...the very first of Nigeria

Thanks for the compliment.

It is also a visa to hell

I dont know. Still thinking of my robust reply

This is apt enough for all to admit; Grace is not a license to sin.
This is what i tried telling someone if you think because you are a saint the devil will not come for you if you sin, remember the word of Job-He who breaks an hedge, the Serpent will bite.Thanks op.

what are you saying? I need summary ....... God's grace stop sin.... I hope you won't say that I can watch porn and still make heaven hmmmmm

There are so many things wrong with what you posted here. I don't know where you copied this from and where to start but it certainly is NOT the gospel of Jesus Christ. There is power in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is the Power of God for salvation...in it the righteousness of God is revealed (Rom 1:16). If you ever had to look in the mirror to remind yourself that you are the righteousness of God in Jesus in order to overcome sin and the lusts of the flesh then you never had the Spirit of God in you in the first place. It is positive thinking new age motivational nonsense.
How can one have the Spirit of the Holy and Righteous living God and NOT be transformed? You see, you people run away from the truth of the gospel and follow these 'Best life now' 'Jesus has a wonderful and beautiful plan for your sinful life' teachings because it's colourful and it accommodates your worldly desires and lusts. Jesus says "These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far away from me" The problem with these glamorous churches that never preach against sin and hell for fear of losing church members. Pervert the grace of the gospel of God to attract sinners, and when they use lies to invite them, they definitely would require more lies to keep them in for their money. I won't say anymore but I had to share this even if only one person would take heed.

This is the message 'REPENT from SIN and surrender to God through Jesus Christ to be saved from sin and death' and it is for your own good, for eternal life. Jesus has already paid the price for your sins so you don't have to live in sin any longer. If you are truly saved, your salvation would be your greatest testimony.

jiggaz:
Grace-preachers attract sinners and that is a good thing. If you are a sinner – you have come to the right place! Sinners are welcome in the House of Grace. I wish our churches were magnets for sinners for that would be a sure sign we were preaching the true gospel of grace.

If this scandalizes you then you may want to avert your eyes from the One called the Friend of Sinners. Jesus didn’t wait for sinners to come to Him; He literally went into their homes and got Himself invited to their parties. That’s because grace is for sinners. It is not for those who think they are basically good and decent people. As Jesus said, “I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners” (Mt 9:13).
So I suppose I should be thrilled that I get a lot of correspondence from sinners – and I am. What is less thrilling is the correspondence I get from saints who think they are sinners and who want me to validate their choice to act like sinners.

Why do saints act like sinners?

Some may do it out of ignorance (“I am holy? I didn’t know!”) or out of a fatal belief that they can live by law and call it grace (“ I’m just trying to live by the red letters of Jesus ”). But a saint who acts like a sinner is a hypocrite – they are acting like someone they are not.

In a recent post I dealt with five questions I typically hear from hot-blooded young men . But today I want to answer the biggest question of all…

Is grace a license to sin?

No. It is true that grace brings freedom and that includes the freedom to make poor choices, but if you use your freedom to enslave yourself to sin, then you have missed the point of grace:

It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. (Gal 5:1)

The purpose of grace is to liberate the prisoner and give life to the dead. Grace is also good news for the poor (Lk 4:18-19). So if you use grace to enslave or impoverish yourself by making dumb decisions and indulging the flesh, then you are setting aside grace. You are not using it for its intended purpose. Grace liberates, but if you use your freedom to discard your freedom, then what was the point? You are no better off than when you started.

Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound. (Rom 5:20)

Don’t ever fall for the lie that says “I can go on sinning so that grace may abound.” True, your sinning won’t affect God’s love for you, but it will surely affect you. It will enslave you and ultimately kill you. This is not God’s will for your life.
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. (Rom 6:1)

Grace is no more a license to sin than electricity is a license to electrocute yourself. True, you can use electricity to electrocute yourself but God forbid that you would! That’s not what it’s for. God created electricity so you could enjoy light and warmth and ESPN’s SportsCenter. Grace, like electricity is meant to bring life not death and there is no life in sin.

We need to see sin for what it really is. It is not some benign activity like making coffee or hitting free-throws down the stretch. As God warned Cain, Sin is a crouching beast that desires to master you. Running after Sin is about as smart as poking a pit-bull with a stick.

They may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom!

The apostle of grace wrote much about how sin enslaves and he wasn’t just talking about sinners: “You are slaves to the one whom you obey” (Rom 6:16). Now please understand I am drawing a big fat line between a saint who occasionally sins and a sinner who runs after sin. There is a big difference. The former finds himself doing what he doesn’t want to do; the latter is doing exactly what he wants to do. If you are troubled when you sin, relax – your discomfort is actually a sign of the new nature and new desires within you. Your heart is to please the Lord. But if you are untroubled when you sin – perhaps because you think grace is a license to sin – then wake up and smell the coffee. Something is very wrong.

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age. (Tit 2:11-12)

I am aware that some use this scripture to promote behavior modification thus condemning those who are struggling to overcome sin. (If you are trying to overcome sin, check out the excellent links at the end of this post.) The point I want to make here is this: The grace of God that brings salvation teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness. So any grace that isn’t teaching you to say “No” is counterfeit grace. Is grace a license to sin? Only if it is fake grace.

So why do I still sin?

I suspect there are two reasons. Either you don’t know who you really are and you are still running on the operating system you had when you followed the way of the world. Or you are an unbeliever. The grace that teaches us to say no only comes through faith. If you don’t believe you can say no then, guess what, you won’t. This is why it is imperative to declare what the Bible says is true about you.

If you are a Christian you are a new creation. The new has come and the old has gone. When you came to Christ you did not sign up for a program of life-long reform and self-improvement. That way lies disaster and disappointment. Christ is your life. Learn to allow Him to express His flawless, sinless life through your earthen vessel.

When you get up in the morning, look at yourself in the mirror and declare “I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. I am His dearly loved child.” When you’re about to click on a link that you should not click or when reaching for some substance that is killing you, say it again: “I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. I am His dearly loved child.” This is not the power of positive thinking. This is a frail human being tapping into the inexhaustible riches of His transforming grace through faith.

Have faith in God – His grace is powerful! It is the only thing on this earth that can give us freedom from sin and sinning. Live under the fountain of His grace and sin shall not be your master (Rom 6:14).

https://escapetoreality.org/2012/09/24/is-grace-a-license-to-sin/

Omojohnny100:
The problem is a lot people don't even know what sin is,some actually think sin is when you do something wrong,according to the bible SIN is transgression of the law,that law was given to Moses to give to the children of Isreal,that law is not applicable to a child of God cause the day you give your life to God you can no longer sin cause the problem of sin has been delt with on the cross,back in the Old Testament they used to offer animals as a sacrifice to God,those blood of animals that were used then couldn't really cleanse their sin all the blood could do was to cover it,but when Jesus died only the blood of Jesus was able to cleanse our sins that's why the criteria of making heaven as a Christian is to believing and accepting Jesus Christ,now grace is a gift from God by your own handwork you cannot get it but Jesus was able to make it available for us through his death and resurrection,that's why the bible say that sin shall have no dominion over you cause we are not under the law but by grace are we all safe,Grace is not a license to sin but grace waives your sins away

I agree with you but remember 1 John 1:6 and 1 John 2:4, it is the FELLOWSHIP with Christ that brings our salvation. The law was designed for you for perfection but God saw that it was very difficult to do this on our own hence sending his son Jesus Christ. If you claim to know him but keep on disobeying his commandments, you are living a lie and ofcourse you know, liars will not enter the kingdom of God. Also remember Matthew 7:21 that tells us that we might claim to have preached in his name, cast out demons, bla bla bla, but at the end he will turn you back because he never knew you. So my point, it is the grace of Christ living in you that waives your sins away, continuing in that faith, hanging onto him as the branches because without him we can do nothing(John 5:15). Anyone telling you there is such thing as easy salvation is a liar.

SHALOM!

The "GRACE" Doctrine is a STUMBLINGBLOCK of the PHARISEES used by PAUL to DESTRIY GENTILE CHRISTIANITY.

The GRACE Doctrine says that all Good Works are meaningless, and that no matter how many they are, they cannot be recognized. This was the Doctrine used to condemn YAHSHUA.

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