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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bily(m): 6:23pm On Sep 11, 2016
Beltway8:


Is there anyone who can assist me with this?

In this current climes, I doubt if it can ever be profitable using imported feed throughout, especially considering the price of fish is not commensurate to price of feed.

Your calculation is on point, I believe you just have to look for alternative/cheaper feed, probably go for local sinking pellets after a few weeks of imported/local floating
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by michaelella: 7:01pm On Sep 11, 2016
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by igchuks: 8:32pm On Sep 11, 2016
MAAF:


Thanks a lot for your assistance.

Thank God
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by koloyewo: 9:44pm On Sep 11, 2016
we sell table size catfish at low and affordable prices for more info visit www.koloyewofarms.com

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 9:47pm On Sep 11, 2016
Star30:
Sorry to bother you sir, pls sir help me with the chemical name used in liming an earthen pond(is it gamarlin 20?) and what quantity will be enough to lime 20ft by 30ft and 5ft deep earthen pond
Just tell them agric lime,use to be between ,4.5-6k a bag depending on location. Dont touch gammalin 20, that chemical had being ban in countries & if you use,it will take a period of time before any fish can survive in that pond & this period in quote could be for a while(can be long period),a bag should do,if you use more,it only enhance d buildup of planktons & wipe out harmful organism,but check cost,hence no need for wastages if you can spread it firmly over the coverage area
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MAAF: 9:58pm On Sep 11, 2016
igchuks:


Thank God

How many juveniles do u intend stocking in each of your ponds to raise up to melange size. I intend stocking 2000 juveniles in my 20/40/4 ft earthen pond to achieve a weight of at least 700g in 4months, is that a lot or should I reduce quantity.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by 2saints: 10:35pm On Sep 11, 2016
michaelella:
Please my concrete pond is 17 square metres. I honestly don't know how many fingeilings to stock to achieve a 800g (0.8kg).
I don't wanna under stock simce the pond is not so big. Also careful not to over stock.

I'll like to know how many fish should be put per squre metre and how to calculate it if possible,

Find how to carry out those calculations of how many to stock in a given pond here http://gokingfisher..com.ng/2014/03/how-to-calculate-and-stocking-your-fish.html?m=1
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by dondo83(m): 10:57pm On Sep 11, 2016
igchuks:

Thank God
how much did you buy your juveniles?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Star30: 11:48am On Sep 12, 2016
excelsiorfarm:
Just tell them agric lime,use to be between ,4.5-6k a bag depending on location. Dont touch gammalin 20, that chemical had being ban in countries & if you use,it will take a period of time before any fish can survive in that pond & this period in quote could be for a while(can be long period),a bag should do,if you use more,it only enhance d buildup of planktons & wipe out harmful organism,but check cost,hence no need for wastages if you can spread it firmly over the coverage area
thank u sir
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 4:09pm On Sep 12, 2016
Dv i wont be able to attend to any questions directed to me for the next 3-4weeks,hence keep your questions open to all so possibly you get answer from those on the thread. Also calls wont be taken please. thank you
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ijababa: 6:37pm On Sep 12, 2016
The issue with the analysis lies in the cost of the feed.
Point 1. It is not wise to use a feed that costs N9700/15kg bag for 2 months.Which of the foreign brands cost this much? normally cost of feed reduces as the pellet size decreases hence you can switch to lower pellete sizes as your fish mature
Point 2. You do not have to use foreign feed for two months, you can use for 5 weeks and then switch to vital feed/topfeed
point 3. The cost of the local feed in your analysis is outrageous. 20k for a 50kg bag of local feed!!! i.e. N400/kg
My advice is that you consider making your own feed to reduce feed cost.
Beltway8:
Good morning esteemed entrepreneurs,
I am humbly coming to you because i am having an issue when trying to calculate the cost of raising 1000 fingerlings to table size, so that i can plan my entry into this business properly. I have this calculation as of now based on my research but it seems pricey. My per unit cost of raising one fish to table-size comes out to 572 naira per and that is not enticing at all. Please can anyone pick apart my calculations and enlighten me as to the error of my ways. All constructive criticism is welcomed.

USING FCR 1.2:1
1000...1200KG
1 FISH NEEDS 1.2KG
TO GET 1000 FISH TO 300 GRAMS ON IMPORTED FEED
1 FISH TO 300 GRAMS IN TWO MONTHS 300*1.2---360
300GRAMS * 1000 FISH -- 360 KG
IMPORTED FEED IS 15KG/ BAG
360KG/15---24 BAGS
24 BAGS OF IMPORTED FEED @ 9700 PER BAG ---232,800

TO GET 1000 FISH TO 700 GRAMS
1 FISH TO 700 GRAMS IN 4 MONTHS 700*1.2---840
840GRAMS * 1000 FISH -- 840KG
LOCAL FEED 50KG/BAG
840KG/50 --16.8 BAGS (17)
17 BAGS OF LOCAL FEED @ 20K PER BAG -- 340,000

340,000+ 232,800 --- 572,800?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by igchuks: 7:22pm On Sep 12, 2016
dondo83:


how much did you buy your juveniles?

I bought them N25.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by igchuks: 7:30pm On Sep 12, 2016
MAAF:


How many juveniles do u intend stocking in each of your ponds to raise up to melange size. I intend stocking 2000 juveniles in my 20/40/4 ft earthen pond to achieve a weight of at least 700g in 4months, is that a lot or should I reduce quantity.


I stocked 2000 in the biggest pond and 1500 in the other 2 ponds. Your pond will take 2000 conveniently
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 7:39am On Sep 13, 2016
NUVENBARZ FARMS appreciate the relentless efforts of everyone in making this house highly informative. I MISSED YOU ALL... It's great to be back!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Beltway8: 8:06am On Sep 13, 2016
ijababa:
The issue with the analysis lies in the cost of the feed.
Point 1. It is not wise to use a feed that costs N9700/15kg bag for 2 months.Which of the foreign brands cost this much? normally cost of feed reduces as the pellet size decreases hence you can switch to lower pellete sizes as your fish mature
Point 2. You do not have to use foreign feed for two months, you can use for 5 weeks and then switch to vital feed/topfeed
point 3. The cost of the local feed in your analysis is outrageous. 20k for a 50kg bag of local feed!!! i.e. N400/kg
My advice is that you consider making your own feed to reduce feed cost.

Thank you very much kind sir, i will heed your advice and report back
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 6:38pm On Sep 14, 2016
NUVEMBARZINTL:
NUVENBARZ FARMS appreciate the relentless efforts of everyone in making this house highly informative. I MISSED YOU ALL... It's great to be back!

Welcome back bro, I myself been very busy with projects, Thanks to everyone.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by gboshento(m): 6:48am On Sep 15, 2016
Good day house.. I have been following this group for sometime now (April precisely) , much appreciation to robonski and Co.. Started fish farming after reading enough from this thread and I always referred to this thread for directions.. All the challenges I have encountered have been attended to one way or the other in this group so I didn't need to ask questions here.
Please I want anybody with link to special buyers down in the south that can come to warri to buy fishes to please assist me, as location of my farm is proving a major challenge in selling my fishes.. They are about 2000kg with the least weighing between 1kg - 2.kg
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 1:47pm On Sep 15, 2016
ijababa:
The issue with the analysis lies in the cost of the feed.
Point 1. It is not wise to use a feed that costs N9700/15kg bag for 2 months.Which of the foreign brands cost this much? normally cost of feed reduces as the pellet size decreases hence you can switch to lower pellete sizes as your fish mature
Point 2. You do not have to use foreign feed for two months, you can use for 5 weeks and then switch to vital feed/topfeed
point 3. The cost of the local feed in your analysis is outrageous. 20k for a 50kg bag of local feed!!! i.e. N400/kg
My advice is that you consider making your own feed to reduce feed cost.
This is outrageous like our oga has rightly said, skretting is 9500-9700 2mm. u can use 3bags of that n change to the like of chifeed wic is like 7500-7700 now, use 3bags of 3mm then start using local feed. with 300 u can compound very good feed and as they age u reduce to 250 den 200 for the last month....
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 3:40pm On Sep 15, 2016
Beltway8:
Good morning esteemed entrepreneurs,
I am humbly coming to you because i am having an issue when trying to calculate the cost of raising 1000 fingerlings to table size, so that i can plan my entry into this business properly. I have this calculation as of now based on my research but it seems pricey. My per unit cost of raising one fish to table-size comes out to 572 naira per and that is not enticing at all. Please can anyone pick apart my calculations and enlighten me as to the error of my ways. All constructive criticism is welcomed.

USING FCR 1.2:1
1000...1200KG
1 FISH NEEDS 1.2KG
TO GET 1000 FISH TO 300 GRAMS ON IMPORTED FEED
1 FISH TO 300 GRAMS IN TWO MONTHS 300*1.2---360
300GRAMS * 1000 FISH -- 360 KG
IMPORTED FEED IS 15KG/ BAG
360KG/15---24 BAGS
24 BAGS OF IMPORTED FEED @ 9700 PER BAG ---232,800

TO GET 1000 FISH TO 700 GRAMS
1 FISH TO 700 GRAMS IN 4 MONTHS 700*1.2---840
840GRAMS * 1000 FISH -- 840KG
LOCAL FEED 50KG/BAG
840KG/50 --16.8 BAGS (17)
17 BAGS OF LOCAL FEED @ 20K PER BAG -- 340,000

340,000+ 232,800 --- 572,800?

Catfish FCR is complex to determine because it is a function of so many factors and not only limited to feed. With good feed and other input at optimum, it is possible to achieve FCR of 0.5 from fingerling up to when they attain 100gram. FCR of 0.6 from 100gram to 300grams while FCR of between 0.8 to 1.2 is consider ideal for 300grams and above.

In practise it is ideal to limit the use of foreign feed from stocking to when the fish attain 100grams while you switch to local floating feed until they attain 300grams. However, the practise of using local floating to attain 300grams is no longer profitable because of the high cost of feed, therefore changing to local feed of 2mm/3mm to attain 300grams reduces cost of feed while pelleting feed for growout will considerably reduce cost and increase profit without affecting the FCR.

In my opinion, using imported feed and feed above 5000naira for growout will lead to a loss unless you export your fish and earn dollar.

From 300grams, the cost of feed per kg that would guarantee FCR of 1:1 should not be more than 250naira. I presently use 215naira/kg for my growout despite the high cost of fishmeal, when you add that to initial cost of about 650naira per kg for raising the fingerling to 100grams, the total cost of feed for a fish of 1kg would be around 240naira

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by hazyfm1: 6:36pm On Sep 15, 2016
memofomo:
Good evening my Ogas in the house, please can i use pumping machine to pump water out of this tanks? any side effect on the fishes?

How much does this tank cost, and how many litres, also the number of fish to maturity?

Thanks
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by 2saints: 6:48pm On Sep 15, 2016
Please any farmer with info on how one can go into exportimg of catfish will be well appreciated. My game plan is to go international by the 5th year of catfish farming. I'm from benue, any info please, anybody. Thanks
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 5:43pm On Sep 16, 2016
Ttalk:


Catfish FCR is complex to determine because it is a function of so many factors and not only limited to feed. With good feed and other input at optimum, it is possible to achieve FCR of 0.5 from fingerling up to when they attain 100gram. FCR of 0.6 from 100gram to 300grams while FCR of between 0.8 to 1.2 is consider ideal for 300grams and above.

In practise it is ideal to limit the use of foreign feed from stocking to when the fish attain 100grams while you switch to local floating feed until they attain 300grams. However, the practise of using local floating to attain 300grams is no longer profitable because of the high cost of feed, therefore changing to local feed of 2mm/3mm to attain 300grams reduces cost of feed while pelleting feed for growout will considerably reduce cost and increase profit without affecting the FCR.

In my opinion, using imported feed and feed above 5000naira for growout will lead to a loss unless you export your fish and earn dollar.

From 300grams, the cost of feed per kg that would guarantee FCR of 1:1 should not be more than 250naira. I presently use 215naira/kg for my growout despite the high cost of fishmeal, when you add that to initial cost of about 650naira per kg for raising the fingerling to 100grams, the total cost of feed for a fish of 1kg would be around 240naira

You have said well...
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Elemental(m): 8:50pm On Sep 16, 2016
I came across this thread about a week ago and I have to say its beena real eye opener. Many thanks to the contributors here are willing to answer various questions and help others out. May the Good Lord elevate you and yours for your selflessness.

I have urgent questions and I know that these must have been tackled on this thread but i'm just on page 55. I recently got a job on a farm as an assistant manager. The manager claims we can grow catfish from juvenile to a market size of 3kg in 5 months, from the little I read here I disagreed with him since its table size not brood stock. What's your opinion? Is this economically viable?
Stocking will be done next week.

As novice in fish farming, what equipments do we need?

Whats the cost of Real juvenile in Delta State?



What's the stocking density for a concrete vat of 30ft by 15ft by 3ft?

How is liming of concrete pond done using poultry manure?

Can anyone give me a detailed cost analysis of growing fingerlings to market size?

Also any precautions to take before stocking?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Hormohtoondeh(f): 7:05am On Sep 17, 2016
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by iamphotoshoot(m): 11:32am On Sep 17, 2016
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by UniqueFarmer: 12:37pm On Sep 17, 2016
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 7:05pm On Sep 17, 2016
Elemental:
I came across this thread about a week ago and I have to say its beena real eye opener. Many thanks to the contributors here are willing to answer various questions and help others out. May the Good Lord elevate you and yours for your selflessness.

I have urgent questions and I know that these must have been tackled on this thread but i'm just on page 55. I recently got a job on a farm as an assistant manager. The manager claims we can grow catfish from juvenile to a market size of 3kg in 5 months, from the little I read here I disagreed with him since its table size not brood stock. What's your opinion? Is this economically viable?
Stocking will be done next week.

As novice in fish farming, what equipments do we need?

Whats the cost of Real juvenile in Delta State?



What's the stocking density for a concrete vat of 30ft by 15ft by 3ft?

How is liming of concrete pond done using poultry manure?

Can anyone give me a detailed cost analysis of growing fingerlings to market size?

Also any precautions to take before stocking?

Hello sir, 3kg in 5 months is not feasible sir, though you might have some very large ones, but all cant be 3kg you will still find some smaller ones.. for that size of pond you can stock 2250. I don't lime concrete pond, just fertilization..

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MAAF: 12:06am On Sep 18, 2016
Does anyone know how to treat catfish hatchling diseases( fungal, bacterial and parasitic infections) and how to prevent hatching mortality from day 6 after hatching.

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