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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by 247Potential: 7:21pm On Sep 23, 2016
Xtopher123:


A common interest? I think it's 50-50, and the only reason people would begin to consider having a sovereign state is if the government refuses to practice through federalism..

Don't you think if we channeled all the efforts used for protesting or calling for a sovereign state is used for the call of through federalism we won't achieve that?

Like someone would say "Aim for the sky to reach the mountain top." Hopefully, the agitations for Biafra will get to a stage that the FG will offer True Federalism as an alternative. I'm very positive Igbos will see the advantage of such move and grab it. The problems associated with starting a new state is indeed rigorous and no doubt, a 50-50 scenario.

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Xtopher123(m): 7:25pm On Sep 23, 2016
247Potential:


Like someone would say "Aim for the sky to reach the mountain top." Hopefully, the agitations for Biafra will get to a stage that the FG will offer True Federalism as an alternative. I'm very positive Igbos will see the advantage of such move and grab it. The problems associated with starting a new state is indeed rigorous and no doubt, a 50-50 scenario.

So let me say such call would lead to something positive at the end for the Igbos.. Then why are people against it.. ?

Does it have to do with the way it's been carried out? Or is there a Step by step Legal process that these people are not following or abiding to?
Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by 247Potential: 7:26pm On Sep 23, 2016
BiafraudExposed:



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Igbo's love money.

Hello, did you see Head Bridge??
Listen, if Igboland businesses had a prime hub, that hub is in Onitsha. As I saw Head Bridge looking desolate today, I was expressly convinced that the struggle is real.
My apologies if you know nothing about Igboland though. Some major markets in Igboland were captured and I just had to appreciate their commitment

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Nobody: 7:29pm On Sep 23, 2016
BiafraudExposed:



That means u don't follow my profile... I give countless reasons...
Igbo's love money. check my last post video to see Oyigbo market. Still busy...

I have a video my mom was charged 25k for tinted permit by a fellow Igbo man...

2. Autocratic rule check my prt2
3. Christianity destruction check my prt1
4. Stealing contributions. If Biafra comes it will even be the worse because the cownu himself has nothing to show for the contributions... Till now.
5. Eco centric... Kanu said on my part 2 so clear that he doesn't deal with people who are poor..
Guess his reason that they can't pay his hotel bills and flight so what is the use...

If I lie in any of my claim let me die. And if u don't believe go to YouTube search my name watch my part 1 and 2 and u will find those audios...

Biafra is rudderless I must speak the truth

You don't know what makes a nation. A man doesn't make a nation, laws do. Now let me tell you that if Nigeria was only occupied by the Igbo, the government would have sit up or been shipped out.

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by 247Potential: 7:36pm On Sep 23, 2016
Xtopher123:


So let me say such call would lead to something positive at the end for the Igbos.. Then why are people against it.. ?

Does it have to do with the way it's been carried out? Or is there a Step by step Legal process that these people are not following or abiding to?

Well, listening to Nnamdi Kanu speak so volatile was not really encouraging, you know. He was quite 'all out' in bashing everything bashable. The politicians whose feathers were ruffled had to act quickly to paint him evil and play the tribalism card where necessary to discredit him and it worked for them. But honestly, in a country with third world problems, his way is the only way to get things done. So that it is working for some Igbos and that it is being rejected by some, in my opinion, is down to his approach.

I really don't believe anything short of that would have gotten government attention or gotten the message across.

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Alibesamuel: 7:41pm On Sep 23, 2016
This is the most reasonable topic i hv seen in nairaland so far. But still waiting for the answer from those who oppose the motion. All hail biafra

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Ikechukwu48: 7:45pm On Sep 23, 2016
Still no justifiable answers

OP you won't get one. I bet you

Ask them why they think one nigeria should continue...trust me, you still won't get one

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Doghari: 7:50pm On Sep 23, 2016
sarrki:
Ipob is Babylon nothing good will ever come out of that


Criminal, terrorist group

If your father is not an oil well owner whom you are jumping from thread to thread to protect his interest in nigeria with your anti-biafra remarks, then you are the noisiest buffoon in the milky way.
You remind me of Olukayode Omidina (mrkayusfit/searchiinglove), a hungry yoruba muslim dolt that was jumping from thread to thread to fight for oil well owners-Abokiis against Biafra with an empty stomach. grin grin

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Xtopher123(m): 7:59pm On Sep 23, 2016
247Potential:


Well, listening to Nnamdi Kanu speak so volatile was not really encouraging, you know. He was quite 'all out' in bashing everything bashable. The politicians whose feathers were ruffled had to act quickly to paint him evil and play the tribalism card where necessary to discredit him and it worked for them. But honestly, in a country with third world problems, his way is the only way to get things done. So that it is working for some Igbos and that it is being rejected by some, in my opinion, is down to his approach.

I really don't believe anything short of that would have gotten government attention or gotten the message across.

I appreciate your approach towards the Topic, if I had someone from the other end explain in the same light, I think I'll be satisfied, but for now I'm not..

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Doghari: 7:59pm On Sep 23, 2016
Ikechukwu48:
Still no justifiable answers

OP you won't get one. I bet you

Ask them why they think one nigeria should continue...trust me, you still won't get one

Lmao! same here.
I was looking for the pro-dullard, pseudo-intellectuals who are experts on Biafra matters, they wefe nowhere to be found.
They are only good at shouting 'kuje beans. Empty scoundrels!

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Xtopher123(m): 8:08pm On Sep 23, 2016
Doghari:


If your father is not oil well owner whom you are jumping from thread to protect his interest in nigeria with your anti-biafra remarks, then you are the noisiest buffoon milky way.
You remind of Olukayode Omidina (mrkayusfit/searchiinglove), a hungry yoruba muslim dolt that was jumping from thread to thread to fight for oil well owners-Abokii against Biafra with an empty stomach.

I believe there must have been a much better way to respond to him rather than the way you just did..

Please let's keep this thread insult free, you can't have Two ✌ wrongs

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Xtopher123(m): 8:25pm On Sep 23, 2016
LoveDecay:
The Biafran Issue can be analysed on three levels , nationally, regionally and internationally.


Nationally:

1 Nigeria has a constitution and it recommends or suggests how certain issue should be handled. The constitution is the bedrock and framework of how this sovereign nation should be run. The Nigerian constitution has no provision for cessation, restructuring or "breaking away".
You can see the constitutional recommendations on "new states and boundaries" here http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#Powers_of_Federal_Republic_of_Nigeria

We don't have any provisions for new countries or nations. So, this is the first issue Biafra must contend with.


2 Secondly, on the case of morals. Biafra first uprise was tainted with the death of millions of Nigerians, whom were forced to become Biafrans - when no vote/referendum was carried out. Did Ojukwu consult with the masses on the issue of cessation ? Did he receive wide support from the masses ? Millions died yet Ojukwu lived a full life with one of the most beautiful women in this nation - Ojukwu escaped the repercussion of his cessation campaign unscathed, yet others died.

On the case of morals, Biafra as an idea is very much significant in history, however this is for the lives lost and not for that which was never achieved.

Anyone who seeks to re-awaken such a cause which may lead to loss of lives, should expect widespread rebuke, logjam, gridlock and constriction.

For the Red Text - Don't you think that's unfair to human, I mean 2 or more People owned an institution and they had an agreement not to breakup and later one or some of them later found out that the agreement is not favouring them, do you now say because there was an initial agreement then there shouldn't be an amendment to such agreement or there shouldn't be a breakup if the person or people are not comfortable with the agreement anymore..

I'm just trying to bring this down to lay man terms..

For your 2nd Reason, there was a call for referendum but that call was not granted and so Biafrans were forced to do what every Man would do.. *Fight for Freedom*

So are you trying to say Nigerians don't want to loose more lives that's why they're against the call by the same People that lost their lives in the initial fight?

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by p3Ac3: 8:48pm On Sep 23, 2016
Op i tell you, you are the next Nnamdi Kanu for your people
What a matured thread
First of its kind in this forum,
But do you know what?
This will never never hit the frontpage ,
Rather they will frontpage the picture of a snake killed at their backyard.

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by sombradyi(m): 9:00pm On Sep 23, 2016
ipob are not terrorist zarrki or what ,all biafrans are ipob including me,we are not tout instead those people calling them tout are there for their own selfish interests, is it a problem that a group of people wanted to go?buhari should do the needful.when are we Africans going to be civilized?

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Xtopher123(m): 9:09pm On Sep 23, 2016
p3Ac3:
Op i tell you, you are the next Nnamdi Kanu for your people
What a matured thread
First of its kind in this forum,
But do you know what?
This will never never hit the frontpage ,
Rather they will frontpage the picture of a snake killed at their backyard.

Thanks for the Compliment but then I'm the next ME for my people wink

Hitting front page is not my aim but rather to seek an answer to my quest..

If hitting front page would derail the thread then it should be left out of front page as long as the conversation continues this way..

Thanks again

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:17pm On Sep 23, 2016
LoveDecay:
The Biafran Issue can be analysed on three levels , nationally, regionally and internationally.


Nationally:

1 Nigeria has a constitution and it recommends or suggests how certain issue should be handled. The constitution is the bedrock and framework of how this sovereign nation should be run. The Nigerian constitution has no provision for cessation, restructuring or "breaking away".
You can see the constitutional recommendations on "new states and boundaries" here http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#Powers_of_Federal_Republic_of_Nigeria

We don't have any provisions for new countries or nations. So, this is the first issue Biafra must contend with.


2 Secondly, on the case of morals. Biafra first uprise was tainted with the death of millions of Nigerians, whom were forced to become Biafrans - when no vote/referendum was carried out. Did Ojukwu consult with the masses on the issue of cessation ? Did he receive wide support from the masses ? Millions died yet Ojukwu lived a full life with one of the most beautiful women in this nation - Ojukwu escaped the repercussion of his cessation campaign unscathed, yet others died.

On the case of morals, Biafra as an idea is very much significant in history, however this is for the lives lost and not for that which was never achieved.

Anyone who seeks to re-awaken such a cause which may lead to loss of lives, should expect widespread rebuke, logjam, gridlock and constriction.

1)Law is made for Man and not man for law...Have you ever wondered why there's room for Constitution amendment? And do you know that whoever makes peaceful change impossible by chance has made violent change inevitable? Do we have provisions for state creations at independence in our Constitution? how come we now have 36states today?

2)If Igbo & other tribes were forced to become Biafrans... kindly tell us from which nation, those VERY BRAVE young men who confronted Nigeria military with sticks and bare hands came? How come they heroworshipped Ojukwu till death? How come the agitation refused to die years after such deaths? How come the agitation is gaining momentum daily? What is feeding this ideology today if it was anti-people as you said?

3)If we are to shift to morality...Then on what moral ground, should Nigeria(SW & North) confront a people they so much denigrate for cohabitation now? On what moral ground, should Yoruba want a union with a people they celebrated and still celebrates their massacre? On what moral ground, should northeners cohabit with a group they see as greedy, intolerant, pompous and arrogant? On what moral ground, should SW seek Union with a group they see as land usurpers, and ingrates? On what moral ground, should Buhari or any Nigerian leader expect loyalty from a group they disgust & derogatorily refer to as 5%?

Nigeria has NO COGENT REASON or JUSTIFICATION for holding Igbo back here...except for selfish considerations!!!

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:28pm On Sep 23, 2016
Lalasticlala...Obinoscopy ...you may consider moving this thread to front page for more input especially by the naysayers wink

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:41pm On Sep 23, 2016
BiafraudExposed:



That means u don't follow my profile... I give countless reasons...
Igbo's love money. check my last post video to see Oyigbo market. Still busy...

I have a video my mom was charged 25k for tinted permit by a fellow Igbo man...

2. Autocratic rule check my prt2
3. Christianity destruction check my prt1
4. Stealing contributions. If Biafra comes it will even be the worse because the cownu himself has nothing to show for the contributions... Till now.
5. Eco centric... Kanu said on my part 2 so clear that he doesn't deal with people who are poor..
Guess his reason that they can't pay his hotel bills and flight so what is the use...

If I lie in any of my claim let me die. And if u don't believe go to YouTube search my name watch my part 1 and 2 and u will find those audios...

Biafra is rudderless I must speak the truth

smh ...Did any of the above points make sense to you? And you're proudly screaming with your moniker celebrating ignorance and mediocrity? And you have even upgraded this myopic and mental retardant to YouTube? Ndo!!!

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Nobody: 9:43pm On Sep 23, 2016
Whynotthetruth:


smh ...Did any of the above points make sense to you? And you're proudly screaming with your moniker celebrating ignorance and mediocrity? And you have even upgraded this myopic and mental retardant to YouTube? Ndo!!!

so a leader that does not care of your view is good...
A leader who hates the poor is good...
A leader who wants to force his religious belief In u is also good?
A leader who can't give account of any contribution is also good. Chineke ekwekwala ihe ojor
Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Brooklynsouth(f): 9:51pm On Sep 23, 2016
BiafraudExposed:



That means u don't follow my profile... I give countless reasons...
Igbo's love money. check my last post video to see Oyigbo market. Still busy...

I have a video my mom was charged 25k for tinted permit by a fellow Igbo man...

2. Autocratic rule check my prt2
3. Christianity destruction check my prt1
4. Stealing contributions. If Biafra comes it will even be the worse because the cownu himself has nothing to show for the contributions... Till now.
5. Eco centric... Kanu said on my part 2 so clear that he doesn't deal with people who are poor..
Guess his reason that they can't pay his hotel bills and flight so what is the use...

If I lie in any of my claim let me die. And if u don't believe go to YouTube search my name watch my part 1 and 2 and u will find those audios...

Biafra is rudderless I must speak the truth
are you begging for someone to watch your videos you are a Huge joke with my mb watch your video I prefer gOing to hell fire than watching that nonesense

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:23pm On Sep 23, 2016
BiafraudExposed:


so a leader that does not care of your view is good...
A leader who hates the poor is good...
A leader who wants to force his religious belief In u is also good?
A leader who can't give account of any contribution is also good. Chineke ekwekwala ihe ojor

How old are you? Plz stop bringing shame to those that begot you...Is Biafra all about Nnamdi Kanu? Or is Nnamdi Kanu synonymous to Biafra? And what has this got to do with the agitation cum actualization of the set objective? What's the correlation between this your trash and the predicament of the Igbo man in today's Nigeria? Does these compilation of inanities and ridiculous videos make sense to you?

If at all, you are mentally mature, you will be ashamed of these compendium of ridiculous, myopic, senseless, saucy, & good for the trash visuals...Your people deserve condolence visits for begetting something with a mental capacity as yours...ka chi foo biko...echi I bukorokwa ngwogwo ndiara gi a putakwa ozo chee na obu amamihe ...ukpana na erejisi aka na okpa, O si na ya aha mmanu ...zuzuru jebe biko...afo muru ebili gbaa aka nwa ...ihere gi emegbugo m...kedu ka nwoke mmadu ga-esi daa udi iberibe nke gi a biko? Ha eji ubulu gi gworo ogwu bikonu? Imakwana onuku ka gi mma? Ka Chukwu gosi gi ebere ma tinye uche mmadu n'ime gi...Amen!!!

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by theDEVILisHERE: 10:33pm On Sep 23, 2016
@ Xtopher123
"have conversation"
There is nothing to "converse" about
Anybody against emancipation is an enemy to humanity
Every enemy to humanitity does not deserve to live

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by kid23(m): 10:58pm On Sep 23, 2016
As nnamdi kanu and uche Mefor will always say;We will crush them with the truth.Nigerians do not debate.This is a big challenge to #onenigeria singers.

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by SpeedOfLight: 11:36pm On Sep 23, 2016
Xtopher123:


Thanks for the Compliment but then I'm the next ME for my people wink

Hitting front page is not my aim but rather to seek an answer to my quest..

If hitting front page would derail the thread then it should be left out of front page as long as the conversation continues this way..

Thanks again
Speed of light is here to grace your thread, but unfortunately they don't have any tangible reason to hold Biafra. If they have, they would have conducted a national debate where Biafra issues will be trashed and younger generations will be free of Biafra tormenting spirit because the spirit is really tormenting me in particular, whenever I want to forget about Biafra issues the millions children suffered for being whom their parents choose to be will be nocking on my door.

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by SpeedOfLight: 11:44pm On Sep 23, 2016
Whynotthetruth:


How old are you? Plz stop bringing shame to those that begot you...Is Biafra all about Nnamdi Kanu? Or is Nnamdi Kanu synonymous to Biafra? And what has this got to do with the agitation cum actualization of the set objective? What's the correlation between this your trash and the predicament of the Igbo man in today's Nigeria? Does these compilation of inanities and ridiculous videos make sense to you?

If at all, you are mentally mature, you will be ashamed of these compendium of ridiculous, myopic, senseless, saucy, & good for the trash visuals...Your people deserve condolence visits for begetting something with a mental capacity as yours...ka chi foo biko...echi I bukorokwa ngwogwo ndiara gi a putakwa ozo chee na obu amamihe ...ukpana na erejisi aka na okpa, O si na ya aha mmanu ...zuzuru jebe biko...afo muru ebili gbaa aka nwa ...ihere gi emegbugo m...kedu ka nwoke mmadu ga-esi daa udi iberibe nke gi a biko? Ha eji ubulu gi gworo ogwu bikonu? Imakwana onuku ka gi mma? Ka Chukwu gosi gi ebere ma tinye uche mmadu n'ime gi...Amen!!!
grin grin grin Achigbugom onwem n'ochi, iwetago Nwoke iberibea teeya ure na fakaa.

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Kanyekels(m): 11:57pm On Sep 23, 2016
Lalasticlala, Obinoscopy please do the needful. Move it to the front page.
Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by theDEVILisHERE: 12:26am On Sep 24, 2016
Xtopher123:
I've been through this Section Politics over and over again, and all through I've not seen any one give a rational reason why they don't want the Nation Biafra to come..

Now don't get me wrong I'm not trying to campaign for that, I'm only concerned not even a single person has come out to give a Reasonable Reason why these people shouldn't be granted independence..

I for one has neither supported not criticised the call for the said Nation, that's because most people criticising the call don't actually give a tangible reason for that, they just go on insulting the people without necessarily giving a candid reason why Biafra should not be..

Now I'm a neutral person, I've heard lots of them speak to me and I could to some extent understand the call, tho I'm not so much in support of the way they're going about it.. But then I'll want someone from the other end to please give me a tangible / sensible reason why they should not be allowed / granted independence.

I know we've got learned Nigerian and 'Biafrans' in this forum and pleased let's be matured about this.. This is not an avenue for social, Ethnic and political war..

Pardon me if you find any error in my English, I'll try to correct them when possible.. smiley but then let's have a sane conversation


Federalism is ment for slaves
Emancipation is ment for human beings

The choice is between being a slave/animal and being a human being

You either choose to continue being a hopeless monkey nigga living within an area
Or
A free human being living in his fathers land


The choice is urs

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by Xtopher123(m): 3:02am On Sep 24, 2016
theDEVILisHERE:



Federalism is ment for slaves
Emancipation is ment for human beings

The choice is between being a slave/animal and being a human being

You either choose to continue being a hopeless monkey nigga living within an area
Or
A free human being living in his fathers land


The choice is urs

But then the Nation doesn't make it a choice..

A previous comment from someone said there's no provision for a Sovereign Nation nor State from Nigeria, so i don't see the Choice here.

Nigeria had an agreement in the past, don't you think we should abide to the agreement and try to make things work out irrespective of our ethnic or Political affiliations? Cause I mean like i said earlier if we channeled the Energy into clamoring for true federalism, we might achieve that first..

Then the Biafrans can decide if they still want to move on or not..
Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by SpeedOfLight: 3:21am On Sep 24, 2016
Xtopher123:


But then the Nation doesn't make it a choice..

A previous comment from someone said there's no provision for a Sovereign Nation nor State from Nigeria, so i don't see the Choice here.

Nigeria had an agreement in the past, don't you think we should abide to the agreement and try to make things work out irrespective of our ethnic or Political affiliations? Cause I mean like i said earlier if we channeled the Energy into clamoring for true federalism, we might achieve that first..

Then the Biafrans can decide if they still want to move on or not..
Where's the agreement, who and who made the agreement? Please don't be offended!

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Re: Here's My Take On IPOB by theDEVILisHERE: 3:24am On Sep 24, 2016
Xtopher123:


But then the Nation doesn't make it a choice..

A previous comment from someone said there's no provision for a Sovereign Nation nor State from Nigeria, so i don't see the Choice here.

Nigeria had an agreement in the past, don't you think we should abide to the agreement and try to make things work out irrespective of our ethnic or Political affiliations? Cause I mean like i said earlier if we channeled the Energy into clamoring for true federalism, we might achieve that first..

Then the Biafrans can decide if they still want to move on or not..

1st of all
A slave camp is not and cannot be a nation

The shiithole cage for Niggas aka Nigeria expired 31st Dec 2016 according to the documents the vagabond and bastard Mr Frederick 4kn Lugard signed as a slave contract for his lords the diabolical British royal family

That slave contract was illegal in the 1st place
Now the illegal slave contract has expired which makes the British wild game reserve 4 nigga animals aka Nigeria operating on double illegality!!

As we all know the final end of every illegal structure is destruction
Talk more of one operating on double illegality

The animal inhabitants of the cage better act fast and free themselves or else they would be destroyed along with their cage

They don't have much time left

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