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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:32pm On Oct 02, 2016
tbaba1234:
Lol, Another voicemail expense... The players know that they might never get refunded. Nigeria is still owing Celestine Babayaro for Sydney 2000 air tickets.
but what is Pinnick doing with money if they can't fund these basic responsibilities?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:37pm On Oct 02, 2016
Icon4s:
Respect to you man. Not every one here has the boldeness to openly concede to an argument.You are a great guy. At least we are inching closer to knowin Rohr's stlye of play. wink

Iheanacho is really a great asset to the Super Eagles. With him in the team, you dnt necessarily need to make a substitution to change formation. He can play as a number10, Supporting striker or as a lone striker.

Success has proven to be a deadly weapon from the Right of the attack. Moses has been having a good run of play of late. Iwobi has been fantastic from the wings for Arsenal but has proven super efficient from the middle.

If we adopt the 4-2-3-1 against Zambia i would like the formation to look like this:

..........Iheanacho

Success....Iwobi....Moses.

If this team does not perform with this attack then we need to go beg "that mama we don put Super Eagles inside bottle".

Alternatively, we can make Success a direct replacement for Ighalo and the set up would look like:

..........Success

Iwobi...Iheanacho...Moses.

This formation would effectively utilize the potency of Iheanacho in edge of box shorts and killer final passes.
However, Success would be a debutant for that match. It is not likely he would be made to shoulder the responsibility of the lone striker for a game of this magnitude.

The earlier formation I proposed looks more likely.
I have a few issues with your formation. Why oh why should we still be playing Nacho as a 10?! Some might disagree but he wasn't even among the top 5 players for Nigeria in that Tanzania game, why should we be playing him in a position he last played 2 years ago?! simple, if the coaches trust Ighalo more than him then he should be benched because right about now, Iwobi should have that 10 spot wrapped up, no need pushing him to the wings either. And you really want us to start Success? He can't start a game currently, he has been making sub appearances for almost 3 months so starting him is a bad bet, and with Moses confirming that he has a niggle, being a resident doctor, I know a little about Physiotherapy and I can assure you that he should not play that game in that pitch, that pitch is horrible and once he strikes his boot on the ground which is bound to happen in non-level playing field, then he will be out for six weeks, losing whatever momentum he has already generated at Chelsea. So Musa and Simon might just have to start and they can both be subbed in
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 1:43pm On Oct 02, 2016
terzurum5:
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AF Nigeria 2017 Africa Cup of Nations Qualifiers Tanzania
Eagles coach Rohr stranded in Germany, Mikel, Iwobi fly economy class
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Gernot Rohr - Nigeria coach
by Samm Audu

Nigeria’s buildup for a crucial World Cup qualifier in Zambia is now in chaos as coach Gernot Rohr is now stranded in Germany, while top stars led by Mikel Obi are up in arms after they were ordered to fly down in economy class.


An order for Rohr and Eagles Euro-based pros to buy their flight tickets and get a refund was only made late Friday and so most of the players were caught off guard.


Officials said several players were expected by today, but after this late order, it is unclear when most of them will now hit the training camp in Abuja.


“Rohr is still in Germany after it was first agreed he will be sent his ticket before he was then asked to buy it and get a refund on arrival,” a source informed AfricanFootball.com


“The players have also been caught off guard by this order to buy their tickets.”


The players are also ready for a showdown with the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) after they were told to travel only economy class and that is besides the fact that many of them were not refunded for the tickets they bought to fly down for last month’s AFCON qualifier against Tanzania.


Zambia welcome Nigeria to Ndola on Sunday, October 9, to kick start the final round of the qualifying series for the 2018 World Cup to be staged in Russia.


Algeria and Cameroon are the other teams in this tough qualifying section.
africanfootball.com/news/651530/Eagles-coach-Rohr-stranded-in-Germany-Mikel-Iwobi-fly-economy-class
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I thought he was to live in nigeria,if he decided to travel to Germany unofficially,is it NFF that suppose to pay for his return tickets. I don't understand how all these works n the details of his contract.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:44pm On Oct 02, 2016
I have an issue that is bothering me here and I think I should say it. please, can we all reduce the number of images we attach to comments please, it is no longer funny, it seems childish to me, I used to smile at it when it was only the image of GoodJoe's stick,but now even when there is absolutely nothing funny, someone attaches a rather irritating image to it. Not only that, it undermines the sanity of the person of the person who made the initial comment and it isn't cool at all, it serves to portray you as having more knowledge than the other person which isn't always true, because I myself won't include Mikel in my top10 Nigerian players of all time, reason being that in the 80s, some local lads not only won us the nations cup, but also developed our local league massively, endearing the game of football to all our hearts, so great players of that era will come first, then Kanu and Okocha OBVIOUSLY, then you have to add our record goalscorer before anyone else, in fact , Enyeama comes before Mikel for me, by a mile, Enyeama has saved us more than I can imagine, and I can't seem to recall more than 5 games where Mikel has been our saviour at all
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zoboizee: 1:46pm On Oct 02, 2016
We have continued with our failure to plan well for games. Very soon the inevitable will happen. Nff as usual, can never changed. Another failure looming.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by enomakos(m): 1:52pm On Oct 02, 2016
tbaba1234:
Lol, Another voicemail expense... The players know that they might never get refunded. Nigeria is still owing Celestine Babayaro for Sydney 2000 air tickets.
bro so you still remember this?
Hope you are not baba?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by enomakos(m): 2:00pm On Oct 02, 2016
Why is it so hard for mr amaju pinnick to resign? Are we going to miss the world cup before nigerians do something
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 2:02pm On Oct 02, 2016
clefstone:
my list of greatest Nigerian footballers is not in any particular order
No,either u r subtly looking for a way to adjust ur list,or u r just looking 4 excuse to cover ur head that have been bombarded by people because of ur list lack of credibility.
Anyways, u must list ur players in a particular order, from no.1 to 10. I'm waiting.

I noticed in ur list that the greatness of Nig footballers stopped after the 1996,that's why Enyeama and Mikel couldn't make ur list.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 2:08pm On Oct 02, 2016
enomakos:
bro so you still remember this?
Hope you are not baba?
No i am not babayaro..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 2:13pm On Oct 02, 2016
safarigirl:
but what is Pinnick doing with money if they can't fund these basic responsibilities?
This is part of the reason why i don't blame Nigerians who decide to play for other countries... It is not easy playing for Nigeria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 2:22pm On Oct 02, 2016
Mickael2:
I have an issue that is bothering me here and I think I should say it. please, can we all reduce the number of images we attach to comments please, it is no longer funny, it seems childish to me, I used to smile at it when it was only the image of GoodJoe's stick,but now even when there is absolutely nothing funny, someone attaches a rather irritating image to it. Not only that, it undermines the sanity of the person of the person who made the initial comment and it isn't cool at all, it serves to portray you as having more knowledge than the other person which isn't always true, because I myself won't include Mikel in my top10 Nigerian players of all time, reason being that in the 80s, some local lads not only won us the nations cup, but also developed our local league massively, endearing the game of football to all our hearts, so great players of that era will come first, then Kanu and Okocha OBVIOUSLY, then you have to add our record goalscorer before anyone else, in fact , Enyeama comes before Mikel for me, by a mile, Enyeama has saved us more than I can imagine, and I can't seem to recall more than 5 games where Mikel has been our saviour at all
Ur opinions sha, but just as it bothers u with people attaching images so as it bothers some people when u say Mikel is not among ur top 10 Nig greats,n never done anything for Nig.
So u just have to live with the images u'll b seeing. I don't advice them to stop attaching the images,perhaps the images might help u make the right comments next time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:10pm On Oct 02, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
When someone wants to prove Mikel is not A Chelsea Legend and says...

Zola is a Chelsea Legend but didn't win a champions league or epl medal.
Is Zola not a Chelsea Legend?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m):
Mickael2:
I have a few issues with your formation. Why oh why should we still be playing Nacho as a 10?! Some might disagree but he wasn't even among the top 5 players for Nigeria in that Tanzania game, why should we be playing him in a position he last played 2 years ago?! simple, if the coaches trust Ighalo more than him then he should be benched because right about now, Iwobi should have that 10 spot wrapped up, no need pushing him to the wings either. And you really want us to start Success? He can't start a game currently, he has been making sub appearances for almost 3 months so starting him is a bad bet, and with Moses confirming that he has a niggle, being a resident doctor, I know a little about Physiotherapy and I can assure you that he should not play that game in that pitch, that pitch is horrible and once he strikes his boot on the ground which is bound to happen in non-level playing field, then he will be out for six weeks, losing whatever momentum he has already generated at Chelsea. So Musa and Simon might just have to start and they can both be subbed in
Firstly, who says the last time Iheanacho played "10" was 2years ago? Was the last WYC where he played "10" not last year? How is 2015 two years ago.
Iheanacho played "10" in the Egypt clash also. I didnt watch the Mali and Luxembourg friendlies so I can't say what role he played in those games.

Secondly, The coaches, jst as TheGoodJoe had mentioned, have chosen to adopt the 4-2-3-1 formation (which is an attacking variant of 4-5-1) so as to fully optimise the attacking talent in the team. Ighalo has always been favoured to start as the CF, so Iheanacho would have to man the "number 10" position. Or would you rather we keep him on the bench and make him a like-for-like substitute for Ighalo bc he must play only as a CF?

Thirdly, the national team setup is different from club set-up.In a club if there is a defficiency in a particular position the club buys a player to fill that position. But in the national teams players are made to adjust to play roles they typically dnt play in their clubs.

Eg in the last Euros David Alaba, a LB, was made to play as the number 10. Portugal lacked quality natural strikers so Ronaldo and Nani were drafted to form the strike partnership.
Coming home Mikel plays a DMF at Chelsea but has played more as a CMF and AM for Nigeria.
Shehu Abdulahi is a DMF at his club but is more useful to us a RB.

Fourthly, Success should not start bc he has only come in as a sub in the last 4 EPL games? If it is based on that analogy then Mikel should not even be on the 23 man list.
Let me help you out on possible reason why Success may not start. "The coach may not want to start a DEBUTANT YOUNG PLAYER FOR A GAME OF SUCH MAGNITUDE. This ideology i also share.

Lastly, Simon is not on the 23 man list, Moses' availability is in doubt right now.Ighalo is out.
This implies Iheanacho is likely to play CF and Iwobi plays "10". With this our available wings options are now Musa and Success. If Moses does not make it Success is likely to start.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:23pm On Oct 02, 2016
Icon4s:
With the exception of Kanu at Arsenal, Okocha at Bolton and Frankfurt, Ikpeba at Monaco, which other Nigeria players are regarded as club greats?
Is Okocha regarded as Frankfurt great?

Sometimes I don't understand how you know much about Football but still don't give full details of the facts available to you.


So, you don't know Rashidi Yekini is Victoria Setubal and 3SC Legend?

So, you don't know Segun Odegbami is 3SC legend.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:32pm On Oct 02, 2016
forgiveness:
Is Okocha regarded as Frankfurt great?

Sometimes I don't understand how you know much about Football but still don't give full details of the facts available to you.


So, you don't know Rashidi Yekini is Victoria Setubal and 3SC Legend?

So, you don't know Segun Odegbami is 3SC legend.
You never cease to amaze.

Yekini is a Victoria Setubal and 3SC legend
Segun Odegbami is an "IICC" legend

Just also like Christian Chukwu is a Rangers legend.

So what makes Okocha not a Frankfurt great?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:42pm On Oct 02, 2016
Napoleon55:
This ur list is even worse than the Clefstone list. It's now confirmed,ur comments] r just for fun.

Victor Ikpeba and Rashidi ahead of Kanu,on what level?
We r not talking 'bout d greatest goal scorers.

In terms of football achievements,

1-Kanu
2-Mikel


In terms influence and recognition,

1-Kanu
2-Okocha
3-Mikel
Tell me what makes you think Kanu is rated than Yekini.

So, you think football is not about scoring goals, huh?

Remove Pele goals, Ronaldo goals, etc and what will remain?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:45pm On Oct 02, 2016
Icon4s:
You never cease to amaze.

Yekini is a Victoria Setubal and 3SC legend
Segun Odegbami is an "IICC" legend

Just also like Christian Chukwu is a Rangers legend.

So what makes Okocha not a Frankfurt great?
I thought you said only Kanu, Okocha and Ikpeba are only club greats. grin Chai! I don catch am. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:46pm On Oct 02, 2016
forgiveness:
Is Okocha regarded as Frankfurt great?

Sometimes I don't understand how you know much about Football but still don't give full details of the facts available to you.


So, you don't know Rashidi Yekini is Victoria Setubal and 3SC Legend?

So, you don't know Segun Odegbami is 3SC legend.
http://community.eintracht.de/forum/diskussionen/79194

That is a frankfurt fan blog..

OKocha is considered one of their greatest players.

Comments:

1. I would consider Yeboah aswell as Okocha as the best players. Can't forget Hengemühle though

2. I think Jürgen Grabowski was the best.

But Bernd Hölzenbein, Uwe Bein and of course Yeboah and Okocha were great players.

3. hard to say.
the best known are grabowski and hoelzenbein (in the 70's and early 80's) and moeller, bein, okocha and yeboah in the early 90's.

and of course, hengemuehle must be mentioned (is he injured again?)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:49pm On Oct 02, 2016
Icon4s:
You never cease to amaze.

Yekini is a Victoria Setubal and 3SC legend
Segun Odegbami is an "IICC" legend

Just also like Christian Chukwu is a Rangers legend.

So what makes Okocha not a Frankfurt great?
What is IICC and what is 3SC? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:50pm On Oct 02, 2016
tbaba1234:
http://community.eintracht.de/forum/diskussionen/79194

That is a frankfurt fan blog..

OKocha is considered one of their greatest players.

Comments:

1. I would consider Yeboah aswell as Okocha as the best players. Can't forget Hengemühle though

2. I think Jürgen Grabowski was the best.

But Bernd Hölzenbein, Uwe Bein and of course Yeboah and Okocha were great players.

3. hard to say.
the best known are grabowski and hoelzenbein (in the 70's and early 80's) and moeller, bein, okocha and yeboah in the early 90's.

and of course, hengemuehle must be mentioned (is he injured again?)
Comments are not facts. I need substantial evidence to back your claims.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:56pm On Oct 02, 2016
forgiveness:
Comments are not facts. I need substantial evidence to back your claims.
It is the fans that decide who are the club's greats not 'stats'...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:59pm On Oct 02, 2016
tbaba1234:
It is the fans that decide who are the club's greats not 'stats'...
Then after that the club acknowledges, right?

Has Frankfurt acknowledged?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 4:03pm On Oct 02, 2016
forgiveness:
Then after that the club acknowledges, right?

Has Frankfurt acknowledged?
Club 'acknolwedges"huh What are you talking about?

Frankfurt fans are telling you that Okocha is among their great players and you are forming argument. based on what?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zoboizee: 4:08pm On Oct 02, 2016
@Icon4s
Simon is in the team for the Zambia match. He played today for Gent though they lost by a goal through a wonderful freekick. He was his old self. Quick, tricky & silky. Esiti & Rabiu also played. Infact club brugge parked the big bus until simon was substituted. He was the most dangerous threat for his team. Esiti looked solid too as a DM with good eye for splitting passes but not quick in pace. He moves like a slowbie(boss). Will prefer Ndidi to him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 4:10pm On Oct 02, 2016
zoboizee:
@Icon4s
Simon is in the team for the Zambia match. He played today for Gent though they lost by a goal through a wonderful freekick. He was his old self. Quick, tricky & silky. Esiti & Rabiu also played. Infact club brugge parked the big bus until simon was substituted. He was the most dangerous threat for his team. Esiti looked solid too as a DM with good eye for splitting passes but not quick in pace. He moves like a slowbie(boss). Will prefer Ndidi to him.
Yes, was pleased to see Simon in the team, so we have options on the wing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 4:12pm On Oct 02, 2016
Pep is a one trick pony... In Barca, he had players like Xavi, busquests, iniesta and masherano who were good on the ball and can deal with pressure. Today, spurs killed them with pressing.. They could not cope.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:13pm On Oct 02, 2016
forgiveness:
I thought you said only Kanu, Okocha and Ikpeba are only club greats. grin Chai! I don catch am. grin
Well, if you want to descend the laders you can add that Ahmed Musa is a Kano Pillars Legend, Vincent Enyeama is an Enyimba legend, Henry Nwosu is an ACB legend ati be be lo. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:20pm On Oct 02, 2016
zoboizee:
@Icon4s
Simon is in the team for the Zambia match. He played today for Gent though they lost by a goal through a wonderful freekick. He was his old self. Quick, tricky & silky. Esiti & Rabiu also played. Infact club brugge parked the big bus until simon was substituted. He was the most dangerous threat for his team. Esiti looked solid too as a DM with good eye for splitting passes but not quick in pace. He moves like a slowbie(boss). Will prefer Ndidi to him.
Ok. Noted.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:25pm On Oct 02, 2016
forgiveness:
Then after that the club acknowledges, right?

Has Frankfurt acknowledged?
Now na acknowledgment. Oya show me the acknowledgement that Yekini is a Victoria setubal great and Segun Odegbami is also a 3SC great. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zoboizee: 5:19pm On Oct 02, 2016
Obinna nwobodo, bundle of skill, what a delight to watch in possession. Miles ahead of his peers. A quality addition to super eagles also if included. Just need to brush up his marking. Alex iwobi looks very heavy today in movement.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Napoleon55:
This ur list is even worse than the Clefstone list. It's now confirmed,ur comments] r just for fun.

Victor Ikpeba and Rashidi ahead of Kanu,on what level?
We r not talking 'bout d greatest goal scorers.

In terms of football achievements,

1-Kanu
2-Mikel


In terms influence and recognition,

1-Kanu
2-Okocha
3-Mikel
Well, I did not arrange them according to the greatest but if I should do Rashidi Yekini go still be no one not Kanu.


Now let me arrange it accordingly.

1, Rashidi Yekini: In Africa nations cup, he won 1 trophy, 3 times runner up, 1 third place, Twice highest goal scorer of African cup of Nations(1992 & 1994), 2nd highest goal scorer in 1990 AFCON, Nominated twice for AFCON best player of the tournament but he won only once1992 & 1994), 2 times CAF team of the tournament (1990 & 1994), Nominated 3 times for African player of the year which he won once(to become the first Nigerian to win it), came second and third, highest goal scorer prior to 1994 World Cup, first Nigerian to score in a World Cup, Nigeria highest goal scorer of all time.

Club achievements

He was the highest goal scorer in the Nigerian Premier league in the 80's( when Nigerian league was hot), he won the Nigerian Premier league in 1983 with 3SC, he took 3SC to the Finals of African Champions cup for the first time in Nigeria Football club history(this was massive in the eyes of patriotic Nigerians), Won 2 FA Cups with Abiola babes in 1985 and 1987. grin, He helped African Sport to win Treble in 1989( his name is written in Ivorian folklore), highest goal scorer in LIGRAPRO(Segunda-division) with 34 goals in 32 matches, highest goal scorer in Portuguese Premier Liga, Won Bola de Prata etc grin

Note: Nigerian Premier league was hot when he achieved these. And because of that Rashidi Yekini was invited to the National team in 1982.


This is obviously number one. Who can match this? Kanu Nwankwo? Okocha? Mikel (my man)? Sorry grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:54pm On Oct 02, 2016
tbaba1234:
Club 'acknolwedges"huh What are you talking about?

Frankfurt fans are telling you that Okocha is among their great players and you are forming argument. based on what?
Ok na!
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