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InyinyaAgbaOku:
Against their own son in 99?
Is olu falae hausa then?
Aside the corenorth, everyone voted massively for Johnathan

OmoAjowa7:
What betrayal are you talking about? Who follow una sign document?

Na shukuokikedaberu go puni... you and "southerners".

Dem born us join una? Do we have to vote who y'all vote? Who dey follow una do tag team?

I bought ice cream with my money, you bought kunu. You dey tell me say why I no buy kunu

Gtfoh!

SharkTank:
Yoruba hadn't betrayed the ss when Ezeoke and Okadigbo were running mates. Now there is a new and emerging power bloc - the se/ss. And Yoruba will rip the consequence of their betrayal. All we need to do is get a part of middle belt that has a natural affiliation to the South eg Kogi, Benue, plateau, nasarawa and the Yoruba vote wouldn't matter because it is naturally worthless - always split half like how APC and PDP shared it 60 - 40 in the last election

anigbajumo:
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Those who are never a progressive for once now coming out as part of progressive demonstrating a fake sympathy.

It is a shame that most people fall for FFK speculation where he pointed out 3cabals,that is where people are getting it wrong.Going by the body language nd Tinubu's speech yesterday, am still yet to see any chaos between him nd PMB.A lot of decision has been going on in the party that Mr President don't play the vital role as expected just like selection of the NASS leader. Oyegun took decision independently without the notice of PMB or BAT.

Ever since FFK published a junk speculation about the state of APC/Tinubu a lot of writers nd media are just yearning gibberish here and there.

Buch of joker's,they were expecting Tinubu to romance with them or float a new party, keep on dreaming. No reasonable politician will dismantle the institution that took his wealth, time,influence nd life to built b4 it succeed.

Let wait nd see what will happen next but PMB will ever dare to fight Tinubu at this early moment.


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guiddoti:
power bloc- SS/SE? You think SS will not betray SE? Another joke.

OreMI22:
Again Tinubu has been used, once more Tinubu has been dumped.

izombie:
@seun. I read this piece with open mind. I admire tinubu alot but i was very surprised that tinubu aligned with buhari in the first instance. I know he's trying to expand his influence beyond south west but aligning himself with the north without taking thinking about how awolowo was used and dumped by the north. Tinubu and the yorubas as a whole should apologise to the rest of south for joining the north. I stand for biafra but i would also stand for a nigeria where the south south,south east and the south west would stand together and fight this scourge called north. My only issue is whether the yorubas can be trusted.

SharkTank:
Betrayal is a an Afonja trait. You guys are born traitors

guiddoti:
haha SS can't trust SE.
Ijaws, Itsekiris, Kalabaris, Opobos, Ogonis, Okrikas, Efiks etc don't trust Kembas

plaetton:
Everyone is busy speculating about the political calculus of 2019, but few are speculating about the economic conditions of 2019.
What will be the price of garri , bread, milk and rice by 2019?
Will people start eating rats and lizards for protein ?
These are the important questions that should occupy our minds.

It's really ironic how the ordinary folks bicker and fight among themselves about which BIGMAN should occupy ASO Rock and enjoy a N2b feeding budget while they, the ordinary folks are condemned to feed on rats and lizards.


As it was in the 1960s, so it is today. Same politics.
In another 100 yrs, it will remain the same politics. All politics, no progress.

Unless power is devolved at the center, and we have regional autonomy, we will continue to go in circles for another 1000 years.

izombie:
@seun. I read this piece with open mind. I admire tinubu alot but i was very surprised that tinubu aligned with buhari in the first instance. I know he's trying to expand his influence beyond south west but aligning himself with the north without taking thinking about how awolowo was used and dumped by the north. Tinubu and the yorubas as a whole should apologise to the rest of south for joining the north. I stand for biafra but i would also stand for a nigeria where the south south,south east and the south west would stand together and fight this scourge called north. My only issue is whether the yorubas can be trusted.

seunmsg:
All Tinubu needs to do is to start making plans to form another alliance that links truly progressive Northerners with those of the South-West, South-East and South-South. The possibility of that happening should give him a new fillip. At the very least, it would put him back into reckoning, ensuring he can only be ignored at great cost.


Femi Aribisala and his PDP principals can't even wait for Tinubu to declare that he's leaving APC before they start dangling the carrot of realignment to him. Like I once said before, those who intend to oppose Buhari in 2019 are already salivating at the prospect of an alignment with Tinubu. The rate at which former opponents and critics of Tinubu are falling over each other to support him shows clearly that they all admire and crave for his support from afar. The current crisis has opened the door for a possible realignment and it is left for the handlers of the President to handle the current rift in the party with care else, he may have himself to blame.

SharkTank:
My enemy's enemy is my friend. Yoruba people don't understand loyalty, as in the place in people's brain that contain loyalty isn't in a typical Afonja brain, thats why if you tell em about it, they dont understand.

EasternActivist:
I know you got my point so stop trying to shift my point to get it weak where there is none...

When buhari choose those Igbo men, we have a southern president who are more competent. Igbo voted for competence against tribalism (obasanjo comes to mind) against hatred, partisanship and overall where first patriotic. This is not about love for Gej but the competency of Gej based on merit as against buhari (2011 elections)

Fast forward to 2015, the Yoruba's brought into our politics what they called sophistication which is founded on hatred, betrayal, partisan, tribalism all before patriotism.

We all know that Most of all this happening is not because of whether buhari is performing or not but selfishness and tribalism. If buhari and north should kick out tinubus fking ideas should that form the basis why the Yoruba's should term his administration a failure? That's bullcrap

Meanwhile
Sw didn't vote out Gej as their votes where even divided as not all southwesterners (including those residing) are tinubu zombies or apc zombies.

Having said all this, if the sw won't continue staying loyal to buhari and his cohort and they (buhari and co) should turn eastwards for vp slot leaving osibanjo behind, the easterners will glady welcome them and apply the same politics as shun out by the Yoruba's in the last election and he shall win...

Go and ask the ottah farmer.

Foolish use and dumb hypocrites.

guiddoti:
There is no permanent friend and foe in politics. 1999 Yorubas supported Olu falaye over Obj. 2011 Yorubas supported Jonathan over Buhari. 2015 yorubas supported Buhari over Jonathan. Politics is a game of interest, so what is betrayal all about?

kalokalo:
I don't see Buhari winning the election in 2019. He definitely won't get the SE and SS votes. Those on ground in the SW will tell you that there is growing widespread disillusionment with Buhari in the region akin to how Jonathan lost their good will. He better retrace his steps as he doesn't have anyone with the clout of Tinubu that can sell him in the SW. He was a bad product that was transformed by the media into a sellable candidate. A media controlled by the SW.

His abysmal handling of the fulani herdsmen recurring saga has cost him goodwill in the NC which will cost
him votes there in 2019.

So the question is how does he hope to win in 2019 without the SW or Tinubu? If history is anything to go by, the SW will betray Buhari in 2019. I expect Tinubu to foresee this going by the political pulse on the ground.

Forwetinnah:
That one concern una...this isnt the time to rally around a man who puts his personal interest first before the collective interest of his people. This isn't the first time Tinubu's greed has backfired on him..i have more interesting people to think of rallying 'around'. Everybody hansa ya papa name...SS and SE make una face front o let the SW handle their mess

seunmsg:
Okadigbo and Ume-Ezeoke were his running mate in the 2003 and 2007 elections, we know the outcome. yoruba's supported GEJ in 2011 because we believed he would be a departure from the past. He failed to deliver and we voted him out. Again in 2015, we supported Buhari because he presented himself as a change agent and someone who will fight and stop the mindless corruption that took place under GEJ. So far so good, we are still observing his government. If we find any reason not to support him in 2019, we will definitely withdraw our support and vote for another candidate that appeals to us. It has nothing to do with hatred, tribalism or partisanship. You Ibos can vote base on hatred, tribalism and partisanship but not we Yoruba's. We are guided strictly by patriotism and national interest.

SharkTank:
There are no permanent friends in politics you say. Hausa - Fulani bond nko? Or you think they are the same tribe? The North west - North east bond nko?
That "no permanent friend in politics" mantra Yoruba are always chanting is just an excuse to be sleezy green snakes under green grass. You guys took it too far this time

EasternActivist:
It is now confirmed that we now have two type of zombies...

The buhari led zombies and the tinubu led zombies.

Since we now have this factions... Permit me to analyse that the buhari led faction will always find a need to praise buhari even in worse scenarios and are enthusiastic to put him back in power even if it takes them soaking the baboons with blood.

While the tinubu led zombie faction won't buy into the idea of buhari returning to power as they are bent on revenging the embarrassment of using and dumbing their god asiwaju tinubu thus criticizing buhari every move even if it is sincere they will go ahead using all forms of propaganda to witch hunt him and pull him down...

In conclusion the tinubu led zombies has added wailing into their doctrine and thus I confer to them the only wailing zombies of nairaland and beyond.

So anytime you see the wailing zombies used together know it is the tinubu zombies at work. They regard themselvesal as progressives.. Donno whether towards zombiism or wailing...lmao

guiddoti:
how? for not supporting Jonathan?

happney65:
And who did Yoruba's vote for in 2011?Chuba Okadigbo i guess?

seunmsg:
See, how Ibos will vote in 2019 is not my business. All i know is that Yoruba's will always vote based on merit, patriotism, national interest and the dictates of the time. We voted against Buhari in 2011 despite the fact that Tunde Bakare was his running mate so, spare me the crap about tribal voting. If you guys want to do tribal voting in 2019, please go ahead but stop trying desperately to use the Yoruba's as an excuse for your voting pattern.

SharkTank:
Yes. Exactly. Oui. Power is obsessive, Ask the North. You don't let someone test power only to snatch power out of their hands like that

emmasege:
Can You speak for yourself, man? I'm Yoruba, didn't vote for him in 2015 because I couldn't see him as a better alternative to GEJ. He only succeeded in 2015 because this time around, opposition was able to gain upper hand in the rigging process and control of the electoral body, thanks to GEJ's goodwill and Asiwaju's scheming abilities. There was never an election in 2015 just as there hadn't been in the previous.

omofunaab:
It's like femi aribisala and femi fani kayode are both related.


Anyway to the topic, i agree with femi aribisala on certain points.
The reason why yorubas must support tinubu is because tinubu will protect the interest of south west more than buhari or anybody from the north.
This is a man that has been holding the south west together since 2011 or thereabout. Now some elements are seeking to cut him into size.

People think tinubu is a wicked man, but i think he is the victim here.

I hear amosun is part of the gang up, if that's true then amosun is an ingrate.

In 2011, prior to the governorship election in ogun state, former governor osoba almost frustrated amosun out of the then ACN, because osoba was still nursing old wounds about his 2003 election loss to gbenga Daniel in which amosun played a major role in his defeat

But tinubu ensured amosun picked the ticket as against opposition from many people in the party, because they believed amosun was a newcomer. But tinubu believed in amosun that he was the right man for the job.

2015 again, osoba struck again, both amosun and
osoba fought for the control of Apc in the state. With tinubu's backing , amosun was able to control the party structure in the state. Osoba eventually left the party for amosun. Despite the fact that osoba was tinubu longtime ally.

So, if amosun is part of the gang up, then he is an ingrate.

I stand with Asiwaju on this

seunmsg:
Okadigbo and Ume-Ezeoke were his running mate in the 2003 and 2007 elections, we know the outcome. yoruba's supported GEJ in 2011 because we believed he would be a departure from the past. He failed to deliver and we voted him out. Again in 2015, we supported Buhari because he presented himself as a change agent and someone who will fight and stop the mindless corruption that took place under GEJ. So far so good, we are still observing his government. If we find any reason not to support him in 2019, we will definitely withdraw our support and vote for another candidate that appeals to us. It has nothing to do with hatred, tribalism or partisanship. You Ibos can vote base on hatred, tribalism and partisanship but not we Yoruba's. We are guided strictly by patriotism and national interest.