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Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 10:40am On Oct 03, 2016
My project is about Okun marriage, so I knw a little about them now.

The word "Okun" is a generic term used to describe the Yoruba descendants in Kogi state.
Kogi is a multi ethnic and diverse state, and Okun people make up over 20% of the entire population of the state. Which is about 662809 out of 3,314,043, according to 2006 census figures.
Okun spread across six local government areas in Kogi State, which are; Kabba-Bunu, Yagba-West, Yagba-East, Mopa-Muro, Ìjùmú and Lokoja local government Areas.
They speak various Yoruba dialects…Owé, Ìyàgbà, Ìjùmú,
Bùnú and Oworo, but their language is generally called Okun.


One beauty of this is that, if you are not an Okun person, you might not be able to figure out the slight differences in the dialects because every speaker flaunts his dialect at will, with full confidence that the other Okun person will understand without stress. Which is true.

More so, almost all of them speak the common Yoruba fluently even without ever stepping foot out of Kogi.....Isn't that interesting. It's annoying when pple call us Hausa cos we r from kogi. We are Yorubas . A proud one . Unfortunately for us we were not zoned among our pple.. But the north.


Okun indigenes moved against merging them with completely different tribes but they were forced into it.
Their efforts to break away and form Okun State, which could make it possible for them to be more closer to their Kiths and Kins in the South West, failed to materialise. Concerning Identity problem.
Okun people bear Typical Yoruba names like Edo people, lots of them speak yoruba and many of their settlements are named in Yoruba language.

We are hardworking and very friendly. One of the bad things pple say about our tribe is that our ladies get pregnant at young age and their parents encourage dem. Well am over 20 and hav Neva Been preggy in my life

Cc fulaman198 odumchi bigfrancis21 front page pls lalasticlala

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Re: Okun People/tribe by sholatech(m): 11:19am On Oct 03, 2016
Nice writeup my sista but Nay..our girls don't get preggy at young age o, i've heard that you every tribe really depending on where you based.

I don't also claim we are yoruba. No, we have our own distinct tribe, w are proudly OKUN! S way Urhobo in Delta are not Ibo, Beroms in Plateau are n Hausa/Aboki etc.

Okun a gbe a!
Re: Okun People/tribe by jayrule(m): 11:55am On Oct 03, 2016
sholatech:
Nice writeup my sista but Nay..our girls don't get preggy at young age o, i've heard that you every tribe really depending on where you based.

I don't also claim we are yoruba. No, we have our own distinct tribe, w are proudly OKUN! S way Urhobo in Delta are not Ibo, Beroms in Plateau are n Hausa/Aboki etc.

Okun a gbe a!

Dont be silly.

You are Yoruba. Nothing more!
Okun state will be a very good idea.
Re: Okun People/tribe by masseratti: 12:40pm On Oct 03, 2016
Getting pregnant at young age is everywhere depending on how Educated the girl or her family is, not just Okun people, my very good friend, surname Ayeni is from Okun, I can't hear jack when he and his family members start speaking their language, just like ondo people.
Btw op you lucky ooo, a project on your own people, what course are you studying, hope you don't mind me asking tho.

OP enlighten me please, how come alot of Ebira people bear Yoruba names, I know they are more related to Ijalas and Jukuns in taraba state according to history.

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Re: Okun People/tribe by masseratti: 12:43pm On Oct 03, 2016
sholatech:
Nice writeup my sista but Nay..our girls don't get preggy at young age o, i've heard that you every tribe really depending on where you based.

I don't also claim we are yoruba. No, we have our own distinct tribe, w are proudly OKUN! S way Urhobo in Delta are not Ibo, Beroms in Plateau are n Hausa/Aboki etc.

Okun a gbe a!
oga itshekiris are yorubas, if its based on language, you can't understand anything they say, same for Ondo people, if Ijebu people talks you can only have an idea of what they are saying, you won't understand.
Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 1:11pm On Oct 03, 2016
masseratti:
Getting pregnant at young age is everywhere depending on how Educated the girl or her family is, not just Okun people, my very good friend, surname Ayeni is from Okun, I can't hear jack when he and his family members start speaking their language, just like ondo people.
Btw op you lucky ooo, a project on your own people, what course are you studying, hope you don't mind me asking tho.

OP enlighten me please, how come alot of Ebira people bear Yoruba names, I know they are more related to Ijalas and Jukuns in taraba state according to history.
our language is almost same as Yoruba Bt just lil differences . We can twist it tho wen we completely want to fool the odA person.
We understand the main Yoruba and can speak it too. We switch between both.

Ebira pple bear Yoruba names? Not sure . We r all part of kogi. Bt their Lang is so difrnt eh , u can't even pick one thing , lol they talk asif ders hot yam in der mouth so u can't undastnd nothing . They r not in any way related to Yoruba.

Lol my project is about .. Customary Law marriage: okun customary marriage as a case study
Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 1:15pm On Oct 03, 2016
sholatech:
Nice writeup my sista but Nay..our girls don't get preggy at young age o, i've heard that you every tribe really depending on where you based.

I don't also claim we are yoruba. No, we have our own distinct tribe, w are proudly OKUN! S way Urhobo in Delta are not Ibo, Beroms in Plateau are n Hausa/Aboki etc.

Okun a gbe a!
well I don't knw Whr pple make that assumption from but av heard a lot of pple say it .

Yes we r Yorubas dear,

According to oral source, Okun people migrated from Ile Ife, the cradle of the Yoruba race when Yorubas were spreading to occupy more lands, before spreading out, each and everyone was instructed to report to Ile Ife for a yearly meeting.
The man, that led a group of young people to a location (now called YAGBA) in Kogi state did not return over a long period of time.
When he eventually returned and explained that he lost larger part of his acquired land to some other migrants.
He was blamed for the loss and he said in yoruba, ''ÌYÀ ÀGBÀ LÓ JEMÍ'' meaning that invasion of his acqured land was due to lack of having elderly people with him.
Since then, they started mocking him at Ile Ife, calling him Iya agba. They associated this name with him whenever they wanted to send
messages across to him after returning to his occupied area, now called Yagba.

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Re: Okun People/tribe by masseratti: 1:24pm On Oct 03, 2016
IamNawty:
our language is almost same as Yoruba Bt just lil differences . We can twist it tho wen we completely want to fool the odA person.
We understand the main Yoruba and can speak it too. We switch between both.

Ebira pple bear Yoruba names? Not sure . We r all part of kogi. Bt their Lang is so difrnt eh , u can't even pick one thing , lol they talk asif ders hot yam in der mouth so u can't undastnd nothing . They r not in any way related to Yoruba.

Lol my project is about .. Customary Law marriage: okun customary marriage as a case study
hot yam? to ba gba e mu, lolzzz anyway have met a couple of them tho, and the name Toyin is very synonymous among the females, but you will know better anyway since they are your Neighbours.

Goodluck with your project btw.
Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 2:53pm On Oct 03, 2016
masseratti:
hot yam? to ba gba e mu, lolzzz anyway have met a couple of them tho, and the name Toyin is very synonymous among the females, but you will know better anyway since they are your Neighbours.

Goodluck with your project btw.
lol igbiras bear toyin ? Nah nah not possible . Thanks tho
Re: Okun People/tribe by masseratti: 3:13pm On Oct 03, 2016
IamNawty:
lol igbiras bear toyin ? Nah nah not possible . Thanks tho
well there use to be a celebrity called Toyin Igbira, kwam 1 use to call her name couple of years ago, and i actually met a girl in ilorin bearing toyin too and she is Ebira.
Anyway maybe its just a coincidence sha
Re: Okun People/tribe by joefredd006(m): 10:22pm On Oct 03, 2016
Excellent choice of topic! if you really want to go through with it, mail me on joefred005@gmail.com. will gladly help you out.
Send your mobile contact so I can reach you back.
best of luck
Re: Okun People/tribe by YourNemesis: 11:51pm On Oct 03, 2016
Which one is Okun tribe again?
eeeh!! the evil ones are at it again o.
Okun is Yoruba abeg.

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Re: Okun People/tribe by YourNemesis: 12:07am On Oct 04, 2016
sholatech:
Nice writeup my sista but Nay..our girls don't get preggy at young age o, i've heard that you every tribe really depending on where you based.

I don't also claim we are yoruba. No, we have our own distinct tribe, w are proudly OKUN! S way Urhobo in Delta are not Ibo, Beroms in Plateau are n Hausa/Aboki etc.

Okun a gbe a!

lol...What is the correlation between Urhobo-Igbo or Berom-Hausa to Yorubas in Kogi and their brothers in the SW? Urhobo and Igbo are like A and Z.
Funny guy.

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Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 7:10am On Oct 04, 2016
joefredd006:
Excellent choice of topic! if you really want to go through with it, mail me on joefred005@gmail.com. will gladly help you out.
Send your mobile contact so I can reach you back.
best of luck
are u for real? Dat will be lovely.. Am presently in my chapt 3 which is mainly abt okun marriage and AV pause for some time nau. I dunno y am just feeling somehow writing that chapter . Pls I need all d help in the world . R u from okun? will mail u. Thank u thank u
Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 7:12am On Oct 04, 2016
YourNemesis:
Which one is Okun tribe again?
eeeh!! the evil ones are at it again o.
Okun is Yoruba abeg.
okun is Yoruba def. but since we r not soo close to the Yorubas and wev Bn zoned out.. Tor we call ourslf okun Tribe Bt we stil claim Yoruba
Re: Okun People/tribe by Nobody: 8:31am On Oct 04, 2016
#ProudlyOkun grin

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Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 8:37am On Oct 04, 2016
grin
TsaTrinity:
#ProudlyOkun grin
Re: Okun People/tribe by genieluv(f): 9:42am On Oct 04, 2016
masseratti:
Getting pregnant at young age is everywhere depending on how Educated the girl or her family is, not just Okun people, my very good friend, surname Ayeni is from Okun, I can't hear jack when he and his family members start speaking their language, just like ondo people.
Btw op you lucky ooo, a project on your own people, what course are you studying, hope you don't mind me asking tho.

OP enlighten me please, how come alot of Ebira people bear Yoruba names, I know they are more related to Ijalas and Jukuns in taraba state according to history.
IamNawty:
our language is almost same as Yoruba Bt just lil differences . We can twist it tho wen we completely want to fool the odA person.
We understand the main Yoruba and can speak it too. We switch between both.
Ebira pple bear Yoruba names? Not sure . We r all part of kogi. Bt their Lang is so difrnt eh , u can't even pick one thing , lol they talk asif ders hot yam in der mouth so u can't undastnd nothing . They r not in any way related to Yoruba.
Lol my project is about .. Customary Law marriage: okun customary marriage as a case study

OP, seems like you really don't know Egbirra people well o.
An ebira girlfriend of mine bears LOLA, a yoruba name. I think the former senator of Kogi central, his name was Nurudeen Obatemi, an ebira man with a yoruba surname.

Yes, egbirras migrated from kwararafa together with the idomas and igalas, but overtime i think they were influenced by yoruba culture. Their language is very different from yoruba, but they have been influenced by yoruba because many of their people migrated to yoruba land.

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Re: Okun People/tribe by genieluv(f): 9:48am On Oct 04, 2016
Okun people are very lovely, enlightened and friendly people unlike their egbirra neighbours.

And pls OP, i think you need to get your history right, nobody ever forced Okun into the northern region. Am from Benue (partly), and all of us were conquered by the Europeans and largely placed under the northern prectorate from the beginning. So it's a colonial issue that is why it would be very difficult for us to remove that name north-central or re-define our identities.
Besides, Okun people were under old kwara state before which was a yoruba speaking dominated state and your people never complained when you and the ebiras were carved out of old kwara and merged with the igalas from old Benue state to form new Kogi state.

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Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 10:23am On Oct 04, 2016
genieluv:



OP, seems like you really don't know Egbirra people well o.
An ebira girlfriend of mine bears LOLA, a yoruba name. I think the former senator of Kogi central, his name was Nurudeen Obatemi, an ebira man with a yoruba surname.

Yes, egbirras migrated from kwararafa together with the idomas and igalas, but overtime i think they were influenced by yoruba culture. Their language is very different from yoruba, but they have been influenced by yoruba because many of their people migrated to yoruba land.
kogi egbira or another one? Their language is like speaking in tongue. It's not on any way related to Yoruba. U can't even pick one word. And as for the Yoruba name, Ave Neva come across one
Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 10:29am On Oct 04, 2016
genieluv:
Okun people are very lovely, enlightened and friendly people unlike their egbirra neighbours.

And pls OP, i think you need to get your history right, nobody ever forced Okun into the northern region. Am from Benue (partly), and all of us were conquered by the Europeans and largely placed under the northern prectorate from the beginning. So it's a colonial issue that is why it would be very difficult for us to remove that name north-central or re-define our identities.
Besides, Okun people were under old kwara state before which was a yoruba speaking dominated state and your people never complained when you and the ebiras were carved out of old kwara and merged with the igalas from old Benue state to form new Kogi state.
Okun people have plenty challenges, ranging from geo political zoning, marginalisation and problem of identity. Our problem started during the colonial era when they were politically ceded to the Northern protectorate by Lord Lugard, the Governor-General of Nigeria. The abolition of the provincial and regional administrative units in 1967 led to their merging with Ilorin to form old Kwara state.
Then, Igala was merged with old Benue State. However, on 27th of august 1991, Okun people was removed again and merged with Ebira, Igala from Benue state and some other
tribes to form Kogi state.
Okun indigenes moved against merging them with completely different tribes but they were forced into this marriage.
Their efforts to break away and form Okun State, which could make it possible for them to be more closer to their Kiths and Kins in the South West, failed to Materialize. See?

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Re: Okun People/tribe by genieluv(f): 1:19pm On Oct 04, 2016
IamNawty:
kogi egbira or another one? Their language is like speaking in tongue. It's not on any way related to Yoruba. U can't even pick one word. And as for the Yoruba name, Ave Neva come across one

Yes, egbirra is not related to yoruba in language but in culture, yes. In names too yes. Do u know ebira oloko people who have naturalized in yoruba land? They are very many in Ondo state and other states like Ekiti and Osun. These ones are becoming yorubanized.

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Re: Okun People/tribe by genieluv(f): 1:22pm On Oct 04, 2016
IamNawty:

Okun people have plenty challenges, ranging from geo political zoning, marginalisation and problem of identity. Our problem started during the colonial era when they were politically ceded to the Northern protectorate by Lord Lugard, the Governor-General of Nigeria. The abolition of the provincial and regional administrative units in 1967 led to their merging with Ilorin to form old Kwara state.
Then, Igala was merged with old Benue State. However, on 27th of august 1991, Okun people was removed again and merged with Ebira, Igala from Benue state and some other
tribes to form Kogi state.
Okun indigenes moved against merging them with completely different tribes but they were forced into this marriage.
Their efforts to break away and form Okun State, which could make it possible for them to be more closer to their Kiths and Kins in the South West, failed to Materialize. See?

Cc BigFrancis
I hope you can see this? And attest to the fact that Identity crisis is not limited to Anioma land. Okuns and Ilorins are in it too. The geo political zoning did not affect igbos alone! So why cry more?

sholatech:
Nice writeup my sista but Nay..our girls don't get preggy at young age o, i've heard that you every tribe really depending on where you based.
I don't also claim we are yoruba. No, we have our own distinct tribe, w are proudly OKUN! S way Urhobo in Delta are not Ibo, Beroms in Plateau are n Hausa/Aboki etc.
Okun a gbe a!

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Re: Okun People/tribe by genieluv(f): 1:28pm On Oct 04, 2016
IamNawty:

Okun people have plenty challenges, ranging from geo political zoning, marginalisation and problem of identity. Our problem started during the colonial era when they were politically ceded to the Northern protectorate by Lord Lugard, the Governor-General of Nigeria. The abolition of the provincial and regional administrative units in 1967 led to their merging with Ilorin to form old Kwara state.
Then, Igala was merged with old Benue State. However, on 27th of august 1991, Okun people was removed again and merged with Ebira, Igala from Benue state and some other
tribes to form Kogi state.
Okun indigenes moved against merging them with completely different tribes but they were forced into this marriage.
Their efforts to break away and form Okun State, which could make it possible for them to be more closer to their Kiths and Kins in the South West, failed to Materialize. See?

Ok, i understand u very well. But this issue of forced marriage as u must know also affected Ibo speaking tribes in the south-south who were forced into union with other tribes and this has made them have issues of identity crisis. Our colonial masters were the problems.
From some history sources i read, i learnt that it was because of the Nupes that your people were forced into the Northern prectorate, that the Nupes told the colonial masters that they have conquered u guys and u people are under them, i don't know how true this is, but i do know that Nupes raided okun areas for slaves seriously in the past b4 the british came.

Okun state cannot work because it will be too small to be a state. I tot i heard that you guys wanted to merge with parts of Kwara (kwara south) in order to form OYUN state or something like that? to return to southwest?

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Re: Okun People/tribe by masseratti: 4:43pm On Oct 04, 2016
genieluv:



OP, seems like you really don't know Egbirra people well o.
An ebira girlfriend of mine bears LOLA, a yoruba name. I think the former senator of Kogi central, his name was Nurudeen Obatemi, an ebira man with a yoruba surname.

Yes, egbirras migrated from kwararafa together with the idomas and igalas, but overtime i think they were influenced by yoruba culture. Their language is very different from yoruba, but they have been influenced by yoruba because many of their people migrated to yoruba land.
oh cool I thought i was lost in that, well we learn everyday.
But I would like to point out that you guys didn't migrate from kwaratafa, that name is the Nupe name for river Niger, at a point the North central state consists of today's kwara, kogi and benue state, with the capital at ilorin, i guess That's where the Yoruba influence came from in names.
Thanks btw.
Re: Okun People/tribe by masseratti: 5:21pm On Oct 04, 2016
IamNawty:

Okun people have plenty challenges, ranging from geo political zoning, marginalisation and problem of identity. Our problem started during the colonial era when they were politically ceded to the Northern protectorate by Lord Lugard, the Governor-General of Nigeria. The abolition of the provincial and regional administrative units in 1967 led to their merging with Ilorin to form old Kwara state.
Then, Igala was merged with old Benue State. However, on 27th of august 1991, Okun people was removed again and merged with Ebira, Igala from Benue state and some other
tribes to form Kogi state.
Okun indigenes moved against merging them with completely different tribes but they were forced into this marriage.
Their efforts to break away and form Okun State, which could make it possible for them to be more closer to their Kiths and Kins in the South West, failed to Materialize. See?
wow..... am impressed,,,, your memes tho, so Fu.... cking hilarious, you and your friend are just comical, making nairaland fun again.
Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 6:16pm On Oct 04, 2016
masseratti:
wow..... am impressed,,,, your memes tho, so Fu.... cking hilarious, you and your friend are just comical, making nairaland fun again.
lol abt me and my frnd eh.. We r just like that oo.. Thank u wink

Re: Okun People/tribe by IamNawty(f): 6:23pm On Oct 04, 2016
genieluv:


Ok, i understand u very well. But this issue of forced marriage as u must know also affected Ibo speaking tribes in the south-south who were forced into union with other tribes and this has made them have issues of identity crisis. Our colonial masters were the problems.
From some history sources i read, i learnt that it was because of the Nupes that your people were forced into the Northern prectorate, that the Nupes told the colonial masters that they have conquered u guys and u people are under them, i don't know how true this is, but i do know that Nupes raided okun areas for slaves seriously in the past b4 the british came.

Okun state cannot work because it will be too small to be a state. I tot i heard that you guys wanted to merge with parts of Kwara (kwara south) in order to form OYUN state or something like that? to return to southwest?
I dunno why they wunt give us our own state.. It's annoying hearing pple call me an Hausa lady cos am from north central, the igalas dominant the state and they have being in power all through .. Phhwwww
Re: Okun People/tribe by YonkijiSappo: 9:45pm On Oct 04, 2016
IamNawty:
okun is Yoruba def. but since we r not soo close to the Yorubas and wev Bn zoned out.. Tor we call ourslf okun Tribe Bt we stil claim Yoruba

What do you mean by saying you are not so close to the Yorubas? lol. What is the distance from Omuo Ekiti to Kabba? compared to Kabba to Kano?
Explain to me abeg,

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Re: Okun People/tribe by YonkijiSappo: 9:54pm On Oct 04, 2016
genieluv:



OP, seems like you really don't know Egbirra people well o.
An ebira girlfriend of mine bears LOLA, a yoruba name. I think the former senator of Kogi central, his name was Nurudeen Obatemi, an ebira man with a yoruba surname.

Yes, egbirras migrated from kwararafa together with the idomas and igalas, but overtime i think they were influenced by yoruba culture. Their language is very different from yoruba, but they have been influenced by yoruba because many of their people migrated to yoruba land.

You are very right. Ebiras are actually very very close to Yoruba culturally.They share a contiguous border with Three Yoruba groups. The Oworos in the North, The Owes in the West and the Akokos in the South West. The influence is even stronger among the Ebira Etuno in Akoko Edo (Edo state).
A lot of Ebiras now live in the SW. I would even say as much as 1.5 Million of them. Most of them have partial or full yoruba names today.
I have seen Ebiras with Surames such as balogun, Ayeni, Ajayi. Someties you will see mixed names such as Oladele Adavize or Temilade Ozovehe etc. I also know a lot of them live in the North and have a acculturated into Hausa culture up there.

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Re: Okun People/tribe by YonkijiSappo: 10:08pm On Oct 04, 2016
genieluv:
Okun people are very lovely, enlightened and friendly people unlike their egbirra neighbours.

And pls OP, i think you need to get your history right, nobody ever forced Okun into the northern region. Am from Benue (partly), and all of us were conquered by the Europeans and largely placed under the northern prectorate from the beginning. So it's a colonial issue that is why it would be very difficult for us to remove that name north-central or re-define our identities.
Besides, Okun people were under old kwara state before which was a yoruba speaking dominated state and your people never complained when you and the ebiras were carved out of old kwara and merged with the igalas from old Benue state to form new Kogi state.

Igala was also under old Kwara before it was taken to Old Benue. All regions of present Kogi were all once under Old Kwara 9Then known as West Central state).
Then Okun and Ebira were excised from the Old Kwara and Igala removed from Benue with all merged to form present Kogi.

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Re: Okun People/tribe by genieluv(f): 11:25pm On Oct 04, 2016
YonkijiSappo:


Igala was also under old Kwara before it was taken to Old Benue. All regions of present Kogi were all once under Old Kwara 9Then known as West Central state).
Then Okun and Ebira were excised from the Old Kwara and Igala removed from Benue with all merged to form present Kogi.
YonkijiSappo:

You are very right. Ebiras are actually very very close to Yoruba culturally.They share a contiguous border with Three Yoruba groups. The Oworos in the North, The Owes in the West and the Akokos in the South West. The influence is even stronger among the Ebira Etuno in Akoko Edo (Edo state).
A lot of Ebiras now live in the SW. I would even say as much as 1.5 Million of them. Most of them have partial or full yoruba names today.
I have seen Ebiras with Surames such as balogun, Ayeni, Ajayi. Someties you will see mixed names such as Oladele Adavize or Temilade Ozovehe etc. I also know a lot of them live in the North and have a acculturated into Hausa culture up there.

Yes u are very correct. Are u ebira?

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