IamNawty:
I dunno why they wunt give us our own state.. It's annoying hearing pple call me an Hausa lady cos am from north central, the igalas dominant the state and they have being in power all through .. Phhwwww

genieluv:


Yes u are very correct. Are u ebira?

genieluv:


But an Egbirra man is now the governor.
You Okuns, Egbirras and other groups are the ones who have allowed igalas dominate the state, igalas are not more than the rest of you combined, but u guys never unite.
Okun state can never be a reality like i told u. U guys have to be merged with another southwestern state or merge with Kwara yoruba parts to form another state.
Okun land is too small to be a state of it's own

IamNawty:
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YonkijiSappo:


I am not Anebira. But I believe Ebiras migrated from somewhere n the North central from an area around Abuja to their present location predominantly below the confluence, and broke the long standing contact between a continuous Yoruba-Igala territory. Today I actually think Ebiras feel more comfortable wih Yorubas than any other tribe. Although many of them think Ebira being majority muslim make them closer to Hausa... that couldn't be further from the truth because Ebiraland was never conquered in a jihad, but rather became muslims on their own accord.
Also, Ebiras, Igalas and Idomas did not migrate from Kwararafa. That was just a legend to make the north central tribes feel more connected to the North than the south. If Okun was not already obviously Yoruba, I am sure the kwararafa lies would have also spread to them.
Are you Idoma? Many Idomas and Agatus are also in the Western states ooo... hope u know?

YonkijiSappo:


If the Ebiras can Agree. Okuns and Ebiras can merge and become a state in the SW.
Also..... the other choice is Okuns merging with Ekiti. Which is the most likely option, since bth are majority christian and share similar dialects and customs.
Option 3 is merging with the Igbominas of Kwara... but Ilorin will never agree because the city will become utterly useless without a profound Yoruba presence.

genieluv:


I know some ebiras will agree to form a new state with Okun, but i don't think that will be a great idea. See the way Faleke (okun) and Yahaya Bello (ebira) are fighting themselves over who to succeed late Audu (igala).

Both ebira n okun have been crying of igala domination since 1992 and now when Audu died they finally got their chance, only for them to start fighting each other again instead of them uniting to silence igalas forever. Now an igala got deputy gov leaving okun with nothing. Now both okuns and igalas are hating ebiras, the next election will clearly see igalas teeming up with okuns and surely igalas will take the lead and everything goes back to where it was.
Okun and ebira are two large tribes, they can never agree on one thing, they will always be at loggerheads.

It would be better for Okun to merge with Ekiti because they both speak yoruba, but there will still be some form of subserviency on the path of okuns and Ekitis will still see them as 2nd class citizens, feeling like ''oh, u guys left northcentral to come and join us after being dealt with by other middlebelt tribes, so better respect yourselves in our state o, we are the landlords here'' LoL. There will never be equality in that state i bet you. Okuns and Ekitis are large groups with very different dialects. Their case will be akin to Ijebu vs Egba in Ogun state.

Okuns merging with Igbomina or Kwara south is the best option, both of them are familiar with each other and are facing same struggle of identity merger and were once together in old Kwara state.
Ilorin may not really care about the fate of Kwara south as such. Ilorin is an emirate and islam remains paramount to them and not tribe. Just that this move will be heavily resisted by core-northernerns who will feel that there is a western agenda to steal Ilorin emirate from them to the south. Anything involving Kwara and state creation will anger the hausa-fulanis. Yoruba support will never be enough to challenge the core north, it has to be yoruba together with middlebelt groups and possibly South-south/South-east in order to silence the core-north.
So, for now, state creation or state merger is like a dream.

obontami:
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YonkijiSappo:

You are very right. Ebiras are actually very very close to Yoruba culturally.They share a contiguous border with Three Yoruba groups. The Oworos in the North, The Owes in the West and the Akokos in the South West. The influence is even stronger among the Ebira Etuno in Akoko Edo (Edo state).
A lot of Ebiras now live in the SW. I would even say as much as 1.5 Million of them. Most of them have partial or full yoruba names today.
I have seen Ebiras with Surames such as balogun, Ayeni, Ajayi. Someties you will see mixed names such as Oladele Adavize or Temilade Ozovehe etc. I also know a lot of them live in the North and have a acculturated into Hausa culture up there.

genieluv:


No my dear, Igalas, Idomas and Igbirrras are originally from Kwararafa. Go and study history very well, it was not manufactured.
There are many proofs. Jukuns of Taraba state have many similarities in culture and language with idoma, Igala and Igbirra and the jukuns were the leaders of Kwararafa kingdom.
Have u ever been to Nasarawa state and related with the people there and their ethnic groups? Most of them there speak similar dialects and many like Alago, Agatu, Afo, Ekye are very much like Idoma in the way they sound. All these idomoid groups of languages came from Kwararafa and they are called APA people. The fulani jihad was what divided Kwararafa descendants so much and displaced and divided many of them.
Ebiras fled from Kwararafa area and first settled in Agatu in Benue and many Agatu people still classify themselves under Ebira and many of them claim Ebira ancestry, the ebiras who settled there gave rise to the Egbura (Egbirra opanada, Toto and Umaisha) people of Nasarawa state and when the Egbirras left there that was how they founded the other Egbirra settlements like Egbirra koto of FCT and Lokoja, Egbirra mozum of Bassa and finally the Egbirra tao of Kogi central that you know. Ebira etuno in Edo migrated from Tao land. All egbirras even down to their king know they came from kwararafa.

And pls, kwararafa is not part of the north. They are in Taraba state and culturally and geographically middlebelt.

Igalas are the ones who do not have wholly kwararafan origin although about half of igalas today claim kwararafa. I think this is because they were conquered and ruled by kwararafa for a long time and during this period, many kwararafan settlers came amongst them and even during the fall of kwararafa, many fleeing groups settled with igalas. The current Attah of igala proudly identifies with kwararafa.
No, kwararafa could never have claimed Okun, how could they? They don't claim anyone. The average jukun people don't have the time to claim anybody, rather it is other tribes that identify with their kingdom.

I am partly Idoma.
Are u Okun?

YonkijiSappo:


I am not Anebira. But I believe Ebiras migrated from somewhere n the North central from an area around Abuja to their present location predominantly below the confluence, and broke the long standing contact between a continuous Yoruba-Igala territory. Today I actually think Ebiras feel more comfortable wih Yorubas than any other tribe. Although many of them think Ebira being majority muslim make them closer to Hausa... that couldn't be further from the truth because Ebiraland was never conquered in a jihad, but rather became muslims on their own accord.
Also, Ebiras, Igalas and Idomas did not migrate from Kwararafa. That was just a legend to make the north central tribes feel more connected to the North than the south. If Okun was not already obviously Yoruba, I am sure the kwararafa lies would have also spread to them.
Are you Idoma? Many Idomas and Agatus are also in the Western states ooo... hope u know?

genieluv:


No my dear, Igalas, Idomas and Igbirrras are originally from Kwararafa. Go and study history very well, it was not manufactured.
There are many proofs. Jukuns of Taraba state have many similarities in culture and language with idoma, Igala and Igbirra and the jukuns were the leaders of Kwararafa kingdom.
Have u ever been to Nasarawa state and related with the people there and their ethnic groups? Most of them there speak similar dialects and many like Alago, Agatu, Afo, Ekye are very much like Idoma in the way they sound. All these idomoid groups of languages came from Kwararafa and they are called APA people. The fulani jihad was what divided Kwararafa descendants so much and displaced and divided many of them.
Ebiras fled from Kwararafa area and first settled in Agatu in Benue and many Agatu people still classify themselves under Ebira and many of them claim Ebira ancestry, the ebiras who settled there gave rise to the Egbura (Egbirra opanada, Toto and Umaisha) people of Nasarawa state and when the Egbirras left there that was how they founded the other Egbirra settlements like Egbirra koto of FCT and Lokoja, Egbirra mozum of Bassa and finally the Egbirra tao of Kogi central that you know. Ebira etuno in Edo migrated from Tao land. All egbirras even down to their king know they came from kwararafa.

And pls, kwararafa is not part of the north. They are in Taraba state and culturally and geographically middlebelt.

Igalas are the ones who do not have wholly kwararafan origin although about half of igalas today claim kwararafa. I think this is because they were conquered and ruled by kwararafa for a long time and during this period, many kwararafan settlers came amongst them and even during the fall of kwararafa, many fleeing groups settled with igalas. The current Attah of igala proudly identifies with kwararafa.
No, kwararafa could never have claimed Okun, how could they? They don't claim anyone. The average jukun people don't have the time to claim anybody, rather it is other tribes that identify with their kingdom.

I am partly Idoma.
Are u Okun?

IamNawty:
pls don't just start the faleke/bello talk. Everyone knws Faleke deserves it, forget the okun/egbira tribe they come from. We contest election and am the deputy.. We win, and my oga died.. One will think that the post automatically become mine ryt? Malicious Reason y bello was given the post is wat I don't get.. And den faleke will come and be his deputy? Lailai
Am an okun babe .. And oloun moje esem koh layem

MissHatey:
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masseratti:
please where is kwararafa? for all i know its a Hausa name for river Niger, same with songo and nasarawa.
Ebiras and Igalas are from Adamawa and taraba, they almost over run the hausas in their hey days, great warriors they are.

IamNawty:
pls don't just start the faleke/bello talk. Everyone knws Faleke deserves it, forget the okun/egbira tribe they come from. We contest election and am the deputy.. We win, and my oga died.. One will think that the post automatically become mine ryt? Malicious Reason y bello was given the post is wat I don't get.. And den faleke will come and be his deputy? Lailai
Am an okun babe .. And oloun moje esem koh layem

IamNawty:
Abeg ooo r u guys talking abt igbiras or Ogori pple? Bcus I live in kogi and Ave Bn with igbiras for a long time now.. And v not seen any igbira wit a Yoruba name. The ogoris r the one that bear Yoruba names very well . They even speak Yoruba fluently. Pls go do ur findings well.. I live with them and I knw wassup

masseratti:
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Iamhatey:
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Iamn
awty wassup

genieluv:


Kwararafa was a kingdom that existed centuries ago, the greatest in Central Nigeria and among the greatest in current Nigeria.
Read about it if u dont know it!

Iamhatey:
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Iamnawty wassup

IamNawty:
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lagostokd:

[/b]Nice write-up!

The word 'Okun' is not a tribe's name.

The word was coined by some people (Daniyan, Awoniyi, and co) when they wanted Yoruba people in Kogi to unite with the North against the popular interest of aligning with their kit and kin in the West.
They felt using the word Yoruba to describe indigenous Yoruba people of Kogi will further jeopardise their selfish interest of aligning Kogi Yoruba with the North. Awoniyi was the secretary to the Sultan of Sokoto then, and one major agenda of the Sultan was to further extend her control tentacles. (Remember they were already ruling Ilorin then).
According to history, some Fulani/Nupe TRIBE were appointed by the British colonial masters to be local heads of some villages and towns in present day Yoruba land in Kogi before people revolted and removed them forcefully (Research on Yagba ko ibon which means Yagba rejects ibon - ibon is what Yagba calls the Nupe).

Indigenous Yoruba people in Kogi has many dialects which are slightly different from each other but they all have a uniform way of greeting.

The uniform way of greeting is Okun, just like the uniform way of greeting in Igbomina land is Ekun.

Okun omo - greeting a child
Okun baba, Okun ope - greeting an elderly man/father
Okun momo - greeting an elderly woman/mother

This unifying word was adopted by Daniyan and Awoniyi which they greatly promoted and brainwashed people to the extent that some people in this generation ascribe their TRIBE to be Okun. Remember, the objective of the word Okun by Daniyan and Awoniyi is to separate Kogi Yorubas from their kit and kin in the West.

There was nothing like Okun before - what was obtainable was Kabba district and Oyi Local government.

Remember, no TRIBE is called Okun - Okun is just a way of greeting by the Yorubas in Kogi State.

Geographically and historically, Yoruba part of Kogi is not in the North.

The traditional leaders of Yoruba land should develop an action plan on how to correct all the colonial and northern inspired injustice against the Yorubas in Kogi and Kwara State.

lagostokd:

[/b]Nice write-up!

The word 'Okun' is not a tribe's name.

The word was coined by some people (Daniyan, Awoniyi, and co) when they wanted Yoruba people in Kogi to unite with the North against the popular interest of aligning with their kit and kin in the West.
They felt using the word Yoruba to describe indigenous Yoruba people of Kogi will further jeopardise their selfish interest of aligning Kogi Yoruba with the North. Awoniyi was the secretary to the Sultan of Sokoto then, and one major agenda of the Sultan was to further extend her control tentacles. (Remember they were already ruling Ilorin then).
According to history, some Fulani/Nupe TRIBE were appointed by the British colonial masters to be local heads of some villages and towns in present day Yoruba land in Kogi before people revolted and removed them forcefully (Research on Yagba ko ibon which means Yagba rejects ibon - ibon is what Yagba calls the Nupe).

Indigenous Yoruba people in Kogi has many dialects which are slightly different from each other but they all have a uniform way of greeting.

The uniform way of greeting is Okun, just like the uniform way of greeting in Igbomina land is Ekun.

Okun omo - greeting a child
Okun baba, Okun ope - greeting an elderly man/father
Okun momo - greeting an elderly woman/mother

This unifying word was adopted by Daniyan and Awoniyi which they greatly promoted and brainwashed people to the extent that some people in this generation ascribe their TRIBE to be Okun. Remember, the objective of the word Okun by Daniyan and Awoniyi is to separate Kogi Yorubas from their kit and kin in the West.

There was nothing like Okun before - what was obtainable was Kabba district and Oyi Local government.

Remember, no TRIBE is called Okun - Okun is just a way of greeting by the Yorubas in Kogi State.

Geographically and historically, Yoruba part of Kogi is not in the North.

The traditional leaders of Yoruba land should develop an action plan on how to correct all the colonial and northern inspired injustice against the Yorubas in Kogi and Kwara State.

IamNawty:
awwww I just love u for this! God bless u and thank u. R u okun?