₦airaland Forum

Bethelwealthy:
Nobody takes the yoruba seriously again, They know there will be unsolicited betrayals..............

how does voting the candidate of our choice betrayal.

Just waiting for 2019, wanna see if the Easterner will vote for a northern candidate

Bethelwealthy:
Nobody takes the yoruba seriously again, They know there will be unsolicited betrayals..............

how does voting the candidate of our choice betrayal.

Just waiting for 2019, wanna see if the Easterner will vote for a northern candidate



And moyor. Enough of this Yoruba tread

orimsamsam:
how does voting the candidate of our choice betrayal.

Just waiting for 2019, wanna see if the Easterner will vote for a northern candidate



And moyor. Enough of this Yoruba tread

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Your excellency, kindly keep KWAAAYET and enjoy the "Candidate of your choice".......

IBBG:
i think where the op has a point there is if and only if the yorubas can reach out to gej then they can get the support of SS n SE. Gej though quite now, will be very influencial come 2019. Many political big wigs will jostle for his approval. cos getting Gej approval means you've pocketed SS n SE. I think he is that influencial and we see him as an elder stateman.

igbos don't do approvals. There is this thing in igbos that decides where we vote and who we vote for. Igbos never voted for buhari because in our hearts we knew buhari hates igbos. And i don't think igbos will vote for a yoruba man even if that person has gej's approval because igbos feel yorubas should never be trusted. The only way igbos will vote a yoruba man is if the yoruba man is running against buhari.

orimsamsam:
how does voting the candidate of our choice betrayal.

Just waiting for 2019, wanna see if the Easterner will vote for a northern candidate

igbos will vote for anyone who is contesting against buhari. It does'nt matter if he is a northerner.

I agree with Quotasystem for once, the author of this article is naive same as MayorofLagos and most Yoruba posters here.

I have a lot to say about the garbage spewed by the OP but will be quiet for now.

Just watch and see as things pan out on the road to 2019.

One thing is certain, the north no longer needs tinubu for anything; he has been discarded like used toilet paper.

Lolzz

DeLaRue:
One thing is certain.

Tinubu MUST NOT quit Apc right now.

He should wait until around 2018.

His presence in the party will ensure the spectre of internal crisis continues - he should pull the trigger only when the party has no way back.

Why are you letting the cat out of the bag na?.

IBBG:
i think where the op has a point there is if and only if the yorubas can reach out to gej then they can get the support of SS n SE. Gej though quite now, will be very influencial come 2019. Many political big wigs will jostle for his approval. cos getting Gej approval means you've pocketed SS n SE. I think he is that influencial and we see him as an elder stateman.

Wetin Yoruba go do with JEG na? person wey go buy cloth for you, no be the one wey him wear go show you wether him get money to buy or not?.

izombie:
igbos will vote for anyone who is contesting against buhari. It does'nt matter if he is a northerner.

lolz. U can also follow a northerner

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Stricker321:
I agree with Quotasystem for once, the author of this article is naive same as MayorofLagos and most Yoruba posters here.

I have a lot to say about the garbage spewed by the OP but will be quiet for now.

Just watch and see as thing pan out on the road to 2019.

One thing is certain, the north no longer needs tinubu for anything; he has been discarded like used toilet paper.

Lolzz

But they need Yorubas I guess?

ReddLabel:
But they need Yorubas I guess?

They can do without any particular region in the south including yorubas.

All the north needs to get the presidency is just the support of one region in the south.

Fact!

Stricker321:
They can do without any particular region in the south including yorubas.

All the north needs to get the presidency is just the support of one region in the south.

Fact!

I get your point now. Truth hurts though but you are right.

The entire south is a conquered territory I guess following your logic?

ReddLabel:
I get your point now. Truth hurts though but you are right.

The entire south is a conquered territory I guess following your logic?

That is the thinking of the hausa/fulani.

Their late spiritual leader Ahmadu Bello said the same thing.

As long as the Igbos & Yorubas continue to fight each other, the north will always have its way.

Stricker321:
That is the thinking of the hausa/fulani.

The late spiritual leader Ahmadu Bello said the same thing.

As long as the Igbos & Yorubas continue to fight each other, the north will always have its way.

I guess you are disenchanted with the thought of having northern feudalists lording it over others.

What do you suggest as the way forward assuming Nigeria as an entity still exists?

ReddLabel:
I guess you are disenchanted with the thought of having northern feudalists lording it over others.

What do you suggest as the way forward assuming Nigeria as an entity still exists?

The best way to resolve this issue if Nigeria remains an entity would be to restructure the country into regions.

Every region will have a premier who will be like their president.

Every region will be free to make their own laws and create as many states and LGAs as they wish.

This way, you region would be like your country and nobody would care much who is the president of the country. Much of the bitterness in the system today is because of fighting to grab power at the center i.e the presidency. Unfortunately, the hausa/fulani see the center as their birthright.

You may be surprised to hear this but should Nigeria break up, I would prefer two countries i.e the Northern Nigeria & Southern Nigeria.

The Igbos & Yorubas must unite as one or remain slaves to the far north.

Stricker321:
The best way to resolve this issue if Nigeria remains an entity would be to restructure the country into regions.

Every region will have a premier who will be like their president.

Every region will be free to make their own laws and create as many states and LGAs as they wish.

This way, you region would be like your country and nobody would care much who is the president of the country. Much of the bitterness in the system today is because of fighting to grab power at the center i.e the presidency. Unfortunately, the hausa/fulani see the center as their birthright.

You may be surprised to hear this but should Nigeria break up, I would prefer two countries i.e the Northern Nigeria & Southern Nigeria.

The Igbos & Yorubas must unite as one or remain slaves to the far north.

u right a southern Nigeria would rule Africa,all the economy of Nigeria is in the south.a southern Nigeria country would rule Africa,but it's not possible cause igbo nd yoruba hate each other,both tribe should be speaking for the south but they are just to selfish nd full of ego

devilson:
u right a southern Nigeria would rule Africa,all the economy of Nigeria is in the south.a southern Nigeria country would rule Africa,but it's not possible cause igbo nd yoruba hate each other,both tribe should be speaking for the south but they are just to selfish nd full of ego

That is what I said earlier.

This stupid fighting between Igbos & Yorubas is the bane of the south.

If only these two can sheath their swords and be united, just imagine what a Southern Nigeria would become without blood-drinking beasts from _____

Funny enough, FFK knows this very well that is why if you listen to him well he always makes use of the term 'Southern Nigeria.'

Stricker321:
That is what I said earlier.

This stupid fighting between Igbos & Yorubas is the bane of the south.

If only these two can sheath their swords and be united, just imagine what a Southern Nigeria would become with blood-drinking beats from _____

Funny enough, FFK knows this very well that is why if you listen to him well he always makes use of the term 'Southern Nigeria.'

I just pray both tribe learn to forgive each other,yoruba should stop claiming sophisticated,igbo should stop being egostic nd they should work together for once.I would av love to preach this on nairaland but people would descend on me cause am yoruba,if igbo also preach southern unity some yoruba would Still descend on them.maybe the people from n/delta can talk sense into Yoruba nd igbo sense.
all my life I never support outside of south cause I know the north play use nd dump politics nd come 2019 I'll rather vote apga than vote pdp or apc since they would both be fielding a northern politician.
it would be a win win for the north though cause to them it's not about party or candidate but it's about there region

Onijagidijagan:
shitty thread..2019 is for us igbos

Don't mind the greedy write-ups.
Peter Obi is our presidential candidate for 2019.

MayorofLagos:
Editor’s note: Dele Awogbeoba in this piece writes on the cracked relationship between the presidency and the national leader of the All Progressives Congress (APC) Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

The author stresses that President Muhammadu Buhai would not be re-elected in 2019 without the support of the Yorubas which covers 7 states and a third of Kogi state.

The cracked relationship between the presidency and Jagaban

A lot has been said (mainly by people within the PDP) emphasizing the supposed cracks between the presidency and the most influential political figure from the South West of Nigeria in the person of Bola Tinubu.

The narrative seems to be that the Presidency is trying to whittle down the influence of Bola Tinubu and it has been given expression in the release of the list of Buhari’s ministerial nominees, the Kogi substitution of Bello for Faleke (which with the benefit of hindsight has been proved to be the correct decision in law (as confirmed by the Nigerian Supreme court)) and the outcome of the Ondo party primaries. On the flip side, Tinubu’s alliance has yielded a number of positives for the Yoruba nation politically.

Today, the vice president, Senate president (although this has more to do with the Northern Yoruba than Tinubu), Deputy Speaker, Chief of Defense Staff, ministries of power, works, solid minerals, communications and the head of the economic team are headed by Yorubas. A significant turnaround for the Yoruba in Nigeria especially when compared with their relatively weak power position pre May 2015.

The facts on the ground now are simple. The Buhari government at the centre is fast losing support outside his main area of core strength during his CPC days. His support in the NC, SW and Edo is weakening irrespective of whether he stands in good stead with Tinubu or not. Edo state had in 2015 for PDP nationally and APC locally. It followed that pattern a month ago by voting for APC locally but with even less convincing numbers than in 2015. Buhari’s support in the South South seems to continue to be negative.

Strangely enough, Buhari has been positive towards the Akwa Ibom/Cross River axis. He has given influential positions to that axis in the form of Chief of Naval staff and Minster of Budget and National planning to that axis. It is too early to state whether that will move the needle in 2019 in that part of the SS. What is clear is that Buhari cannot win re-election in 2019 without the Yoruba support which covers 7 states and a third of Kogi state. Tinubu should also realize that the Yoruba interests should and does exceed the emotional attachment to one man. That said, it is not in the wider Yoruba interests to let Tinubu (for all his faults and assets) be humiliated.

The Yoruba should therefore ensure that it does the following:

1. Coalesce around Tinubu within the APC and make it clear that it is all for one and one for all. Once the Northern elements of the APC know and realize that there is no room for a divide and conquer scenario it will have to retreat to the drawing board whilst calling off its attacks against Tinubu.

2. Refrain from being goaded into leaving the APC in the near term. It is a major stakeholder in the APC and a critical component of the coalition that brought this APC government to power. For the duration of Buhari’s 4 year government, the Yoruba must stay fully involved.

3. Make sure the federal ministers of Yoruba extraction are kept away from the political power play. Let them concentrate on their professional responsibility associated with their offices. They are required to support the president in the furtherance of government and they must not be distracted from doing that. The Vice President should limit himself to his professional duties and ignore the undercurrents going on between Tinubu and the President.

4. By the third year of Buhari’s government, the Yoruba will need to have been well along the line with another core strategy of reaching out significantly to the Middle Belt and the South South. This can be done in two ways (both must however by subtle).

The first is to advance moves to take up vigorously opposition to the herdsman killing. All Yoruba states should be encouraged to pass the Ekiti type law restrictions of herdsmen activity.

Subsequently, Yoruba members of NASS should start efforts to replicate such laws at the national level. Those laws will be opposed by the Fulani North. That opposition is what is desired and what needs to be highlighted. The herdsmen issue should form the basis of meetings between the Middle Belt, South West and the South East on the governorship level. That effort needs to be initiated by a South West Governor that is not overtly political. The South West should be seen as leading this effort.

Another strategy for the Yoruba’s is to reach out to former president Goodluck Jonathan

The Yoruba should (as a parallel strategy) start the subtle re-habilitation of Goodluck Jonathan. Goodluck Jonathan still represents the source of significant support within the South South.

The Yoruba should reach out to him and start the process of overcoming the irritation that his marginalization gave rise too from the Yoruba perspective and the South South irritation with the part the Yoruba played in his removal. GEJ should be invited to open new structures in the South West and to chair initiatives that bind the South West and the South South together. All these steps must be subtle and incremental. The recent interview given by Edwin Clark indicates that the SS under his leadership recognizes the historical relationship between the SW and Edo and Delta states. Moves should be made to ensure that Edo and Delta are reincorporated into the Odua group (as Lagos was recently reincorporated) which they were inequitably deprived membership of once the Mid west was created out of the western region.

Once the South South and the South West re-align, the South East (eager for South South approval and friendship) will not be far behind. The Yoruba then needs to delegitimize the Fulani led Islamic council. A Southern Islamic council should be floated and made completely independent of the Sultan led council.

MURIC should assume that role and all Yoruba states and Edo muslims be encouraged to only announce Islamic edicts coming from MURIC (which should be expanded to include other southern muslims) and ignore all edicts coming from the Sokoto caliphate. Yoruba members of that organization should be pressured to resign.

The final stage of the strategy should then be implemented in the final year of the Buhari presidency. If Buhari fails to get the message, then talks should be commenced for the merger between the PDP and the Tinubu faction of the APC. The basis should be for a Yoruba muslim from Kwara as the top person of the ticket and a person from the SS as the VP. This respects the already decided zoning formula agreed by the PDP. The SE takes the Senate Presidency and a non Yoruba person from the North Central to be elected as Speaker.

The Yoruba of the South West should get the Chief of staff position or the Secretary to the Federal Government position. The positions of Chief of Defence Staff, Chief of Army, Navy and Airforce should also be split between the four zones. The distribution of all the first class ministries should also be distributed equally between the four zones of the alliance. The re-activation of the winning coalition that propelled OBJ (in 2003) and GEJ (in 2011) would thus be reactivated.

What should not be done however, is a petulant breakdown of the Yoruba engagement within the Buhari government mid stream. At the current time no part of Nigeria is comfortable with its relative position in the power structure. Buhari’s performance has left the core North vulnerable politically.

The NC, SW, SE and SS are all feeling insecure in their position vis-a-vis the current state of play at the current time.

The Yoruba needs to be steady in its gaze and in its control of events through forward planning and strategic thinking.

The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily represent the editorial policy of Naij.com.


https://www.naij.com/1004571-yoruba-strategy-2019-look-like.html

These yorubas are deceiving themselves just as they did wen they married the north. Imagine the rubbish strategy written by a narrow minded and short sighted afonja. The sw will never remain the same after buhari's tenure. Go and write it down.

devilson:
I just pray both tribe learn to forgive each other,yoruba should stop claiming sophisticated,igbo should stop being egostic nd they should work together for once.I would av love to preach this on nairaland but people would descend on me cause am yoruba,if igbo also preach southern unity some yoruba would Still descend on them.maybe the people from n/delta can talk sense into Yoruba nd igbo sense.
all my life I never support outside of south cause I know the north play use nd dump politics nd come 2019 I'll rather vote apga than vote pdp or apc since they would both be fielding a northern politician.
it would be a win win for the north though cause to them it's not about party or candidate but it's about there region

Are you Igbo or Yoruba?

You see, I myself would love to preach this on nairaland but other Igbos would make this place hell for me.

What is this use of all this useless pride and ego that has only helped the north? Tell me?

We need to drop all these talk of sophistication, bitterness and unforgiveness.

To the northerners it is all about them and not the nation. You can now see that all this shout of 'Change' was only about giving back the hausa/fulani their 'birthright' and nothing more.

Olabestonic001:
Don't mind the greedy write-ups.
Peter Obi is our presidential candidate for 2019.

Are you Igbo or Yoruba?

Stricker321:
Are you Igbo or Yoruba?

You see, I myself would love to preach this on nairaland but other Igbos would make this place hell for me.

What is this use of all this useless pride and ego that has only helped the north? Tell me?

We need to drop all these talk of sophistication, bitterness and unforgiveness.

To the northerners it is all about them and not the nation. You can now see that all this shout of 'Change' was only about giving back the hausa/fulani their 'birthright' and nothing more.

Am Yoruba bro,what bout u

devilson:
Am Yoruba bro,what bout u

I am Igbo

Stricker321:
I am Igbo

one love bro

Stricker321:
Are you Igbo or Yoruba?

I'm Yoruba.
I want Peter Obi as President come 2019. I saw his template which has helped Anambra developmental strides and his analysis also helped me see his brainy outlook. To have such a man will bury some of our ghosts.

What's with all these useless thread telling Yorubas what to do and what not to do come 2019?

If Buhari performs exceeding well and he wants a second term, dude's got my vote for another 4years. Simple as ABC.

Bola Ahmed Tinubu is not Yoruba race and Yoruba race is not Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

People should quit this stupidity already.

MayorofLagos:
Editor’s note: Dele Awogbeoba in this piece writes on the cracked relationship between the presidency and the national leader of the All Progressives Congress (APC) Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

The author stresses that President Muhammadu Buhai would not be re-elected in 2019 without the support of the Yorubas which covers 7 states and a third of Kogi state.

The cracked relationship between the presidency and Jagaban

A lot has been said (mainly by people within the PDP) emphasizing the supposed cracks between the presidency and the most influential political figure from the South West of Nigeria in the person of Bola Tinubu.

The narrative seems to be that the Presidency is trying to whittle down the influence of Bola Tinubu and it has been given expression in the release of the list of Buhari’s ministerial nominees, the Kogi substitution of Bello for Faleke (which with the benefit of hindsight has been proved to be the correct decision in law (as confirmed by the Nigerian Supreme court)) and the outcome of the Ondo party primaries. On the flip side, Tinubu’s alliance has yielded a number of positives for the Yoruba nation politically.

Today, the vice president, Senate president (although this has more to do with the Northern Yoruba than Tinubu), Deputy Speaker, Chief of Defense Staff, ministries of power, works, solid minerals, communications and the head of the economic team are headed by Yorubas. A significant turnaround for the Yoruba in Nigeria especially when compared with their relatively weak power position pre May 2015.

The facts on the ground now are simple. The Buhari government at the centre is fast losing support outside his main area of core strength during his CPC days. His support in the NC, SW and Edo is weakening irrespective of whether he stands in good stead with Tinubu or not. Edo state had in 2015 for PDP nationally and APC locally. It followed that pattern a month ago by voting for APC locally but with even less convincing numbers than in 2015. Buhari’s support in the South South seems to continue to be negative.

Strangely enough, Buhari has been positive towards the Akwa Ibom/Cross River axis. He has given influential positions to that axis in the form of Chief of Naval staff and Minster of Budget and National planning to that axis. It is too early to state whether that will move the needle in 2019 in that part of the SS. What is clear is that Buhari cannot win re-election in 2019 without the Yoruba support which covers 7 states and a third of Kogi state. Tinubu should also realize that the Yoruba interests should and does exceed the emotional attachment to one man. That said, it is not in the wider Yoruba interests to let Tinubu (for all his faults and assets) be humiliated.

The Yoruba should therefore ensure that it does the following:

1. Coalesce around Tinubu within the APC and make it clear that it is all for one and one for all. Once the Northern elements of the APC know and realize that there is no room for a divide and conquer scenario it will have to retreat to the drawing board whilst calling off its attacks against Tinubu.

2. Refrain from being goaded into leaving the APC in the near term. It is a major stakeholder in the APC and a critical component of the coalition that brought this APC government to power. For the duration of Buhari’s 4 year government, the Yoruba must stay fully involved.

3. Make sure the federal ministers of Yoruba extraction are kept away from the political power play. Let them concentrate on their professional responsibility associated with their offices. They are required to support the president in the furtherance of government and they must not be distracted from doing that. The Vice President should limit himself to his professional duties and ignore the undercurrents going on between Tinubu and the President.

4. By the third year of Buhari’s government, the Yoruba will need to have been well along the line with another core strategy of reaching out significantly to the Middle Belt and the South South. This can be done in two ways (both must however by subtle).

The first is to advance moves to take up vigorously opposition to the herdsman killing. All Yoruba states should be encouraged to pass the Ekiti type law restrictions of herdsmen activity.

Subsequently, Yoruba members of NASS should start efforts to replicate such laws at the national level. Those laws will be opposed by the Fulani North. That opposition is what is desired and what needs to be highlighted. The herdsmen issue should form the basis of meetings between the Middle Belt, South West and the South East on the governorship level. That effort needs to be initiated by a South West Governor that is not overtly political. The South West should be seen as leading this effort.

Another strategy for the Yoruba’s is to reach out to former president Goodluck Jonathan

The Yoruba should (as a parallel strategy) start the subtle re-habilitation of Goodluck Jonathan. Goodluck Jonathan still represents the source of significant support within the South South.

The Yoruba should reach out to him and start the process of overcoming the irritation that his marginalization gave rise too from the Yoruba perspective and the South South irritation with the part the Yoruba played in his removal. GEJ should be invited to open new structures in the South West and to chair initiatives that bind the South West and the South South together. All these steps must be subtle and incremental. The recent interview given by Edwin Clark indicates that the SS under his leadership recognizes the historical relationship between the SW and Edo and Delta states. Moves should be made to ensure that Edo and Delta are reincorporated into the Odua group (as Lagos was recently reincorporated) which they were inequitably deprived membership of once the Mid west was created out of the western region.

Once the South South and the South West re-align, the South East (eager for South South approval and friendship) will not be far behind. The Yoruba then needs to delegitimize the Fulani led Islamic council. A Southern Islamic council should be floated and made completely independent of the Sultan led council.

MURIC should assume that role and all Yoruba states and Edo muslims be encouraged to only announce Islamic edicts coming from MURIC (which should be expanded to include other southern muslims) and ignore all edicts coming from the Sokoto caliphate. Yoruba members of that organization should be pressured to resign.

The final stage of the strategy should then be implemented in the final year of the Buhari presidency. If Buhari fails to get the message, then talks should be commenced for the merger between the PDP and the Tinubu faction of the APC. The basis should be for a Yoruba muslim from Kwara as the top person of the ticket and a person from the SS as the VP. This respects the already decided zoning formula agreed by the PDP. The SE takes the Senate Presidency and a non Yoruba person from the North Central to be elected as Speaker.

The Yoruba of the South West should get the Chief of staff position or the Secretary to the Federal Government position. The positions of Chief of Defence Staff, Chief of Army, Navy and Airforce should also be split between the four zones. The distribution of all the first class ministries should also be distributed equally between the four zones of the alliance. The re-activation of the winning coalition that propelled OBJ (in 2003) and GEJ (in 2011) would thus be reactivated.

What should not be done however, is a petulant breakdown of the Yoruba engagement within the Buhari government mid stream. At the current time no part of Nigeria is comfortable with its relative position in the power structure. Buhari’s performance has left the core North vulnerable politically.

The NC, SW, SE and SS are all feeling insecure in their position vis-a-vis the current state of play at the current time.

The Yoruba needs to be steady in its gaze and in its control of events through forward planning and strategic thinking.

The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily represent the editorial policy of Naij.com.


https://www.naij.com/1004571-yoruba-strategy-2019-look-like.html

The level of sophisticated naivety expressed in this article is hilarious.
And this is and has always been the problem with southwest political elites.
Read carefully through this article and see the level of arrogance and daydreaming involved.

The writer, like the typical southwest political elite, makes no bankable commitment to any position, but merely express the need to eat his political cake and still have it,.. Typical crass opportunitism that keeps them repeating the mistakes of history.

Fineman87:
These yorubas are deceiving themselves just as they did wen they married the north. Imagine the rubbish strategy written by a narrow minded and short sighted afonja. The sw will never remain the same after buhari's tenure. Go and write it down.

Extreme NARROW-MINDEDNESS is the key word here.
Crass opportunitism.
Despite all the lessons of history.

It is laughable.

When will they learn ?