jnrbayano:


Both.

He is God the son and Son of God.

minifuworld:
so pls what are the teachings of jesus christ?

Seun:
Muslims believe that Jesus didn't die on the cross because someone else took his place. They love him as a prophet of Islam. They believe that his message was Islamic but it has been corrupted by Christians. On this basis, a Muslim can claim to love Jesus.

jnrbayano:


Are you a Muslim?

Stand aside...

mustymatic:

Can you please quote where he said he is God?
Then we know you follow him

Auki:
The Jesus (peace be on him), I know, whom I love as a Muslim, came to confirm a simple message-No brain gymnastic.

1.There is only ONE God, whom all depend. He begets not, nor is He begotten; And none is like Him.

2.He Jesus (peace be on him), like all messengers, was a prophet send only to convey the message of glad tiding to believers and warning of dire punishment to unbelievers. He never ascribe any divinity to himself, as either GOD, Son or operating partnership with God( trinity).

Later scribe exaggerated and invented Jesus divinity. Do your research it is actually worth doing.

Peace be on you(the reader)[b][/b]

analice107:


Okay, who is your neighbour?

Anas09:

See? You know norhing about Jesus you claim to love.

minifuworld:
pls what kind of knowing are you talking about? If its how powerful and mighty jesus christ is we muslims know better than you. just let me give you one of his mighty work that God reveal to prophet muhammed (s.a.w) in the holy quran. In quran 19. V 27 Then she brought him to her own folk, carrying him. They said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing. 28. O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother a harlot. 29. Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we talk to one who is in the cradle, a young boy? 30. He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet,
31. And hath made me blessed wheresoever
I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive. 32.And (hath made me) dutiful toward her
who bore me, and hath not made me arrogant, unblest. 33. Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! Can you see Jesus spoke in his infancy in the Quran and honestly there is no part of the that talk about this.

Scholar8200:
Is this the Injil then? John the Baptist preached same before Jesus what then?
Who said this:
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Matthew 26:28
What is the difference between the Law and the Injil.

Anas09:

HahahahahahahahahHHHHhA, yesssss. I see Jesus speaking on his cradle on the day he was born. Kwakwakwakwakwakwakwa. My beleoooo.

Wait, wait, wait. Is it that wen u become a muslim, ur brain dies or what?
U truelly believe Jesus spoke on the day he was born?

There's another wonderful, oh powerful thing i saw there.
Mary the mother of Jesus Christ, was the same person as Mirriam the Sister of Aaron. Hahahahahahahahahaha
Lwkmdoooooo

Muhammed was a stupid daft and those who patronised him were too afraid to correct his stupidity.

And you, you bounced out here without shame to post this trash?
Do u even realize what this makes you look like? Worst than stupid muhammed. At least he was an illiterate, so can excuse his blind plagiarism, but you? In the 21st Century? Am ashamed of you.

Do you know the generations that spans between Mirriam and Mary mother of Jesus?

Everything the stupid koran says you just believe without even considering the absurdity.
Gerarahia.

minifuworld:
i dont know that am discusing with antichrist all these while

Anas09:


Amplified Bible John 10:30 I and the Father are One.

What does that mean to you?

Can you tell me why allah snatched Jesus from the Jews and prevented them from killing him?

If you are sincere, you'd find yourself with the answer which was the reason for which the Jews wanted Jesus dead in the first place.

Till today, Islam can't tell us why allah saved Jesus.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead because Jesus claimed he is the Son of God. The Jews umderstood exactly what Christ was saying, for that, they moved to kill him (they knew that, the son of a goat is a goat, so if Jesus says God was his father, He then was invariably saying he was God) then your glorious allah came to his rescue.

Guy, stick to Islam, Christianity ia too hard for your head.

ayobase:
For all my muslim friends on here, please bear with me as I unleash some Biblical proofs over some issues:

At least you accept the fact that Jesus Christ came into this world via a virgin Mary which makes a unique being among Prophets.

Can I say He was conceived without sin.

Sonship.

There in the Bible;

Matthew 3:17 says "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 1:11 says "And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 9:7 says "And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him."

Luke: 3:22. says "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."


Those are 3 of the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ giving accounts of what seen and heard while with Jesus Christ - more like news casting.



Tell me you don't believe in those.

Now the Jesus you believe in said this, coupled with written occurences by observers;

John: 10. 30. I and my Father are one.

John: 14. 20. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Matthew: 7. 21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 10. 33. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 24. 36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

John: 5. 43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

And many many more verses to establish fathership and sonship.

My question - why do you find it difficult to accept God calling Jesus Christ His son?

I learnt Mohammed was the Holy Spirit (Comforter) Jesus Christ said He will srnd while ascending into heaven.

John: 14. 26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

With sound mind and logical reasoning, how can Muhammad of all Prophets with many scandals be the comforter!

Muhammed did not get an inch close to Jesus Christ to being a Comforter, let alone of being one himself.

Muhammed is con artist, he had ideas of the Bible which he was able to pick and manipulate verses to suit himself. We now have the Sunnis and Shites a result of his unresurrecting death.

Jesus Christ performed miracles while on earth coupled with His merciful disposition.

Muhammed is not close to being Comforter - that hooligan is far away from it.



Until you tell me the Bible has been compromised long before now, then those quoted verses remain valid.

minifuworld:
that is why i said all the prophets of God come for thesame purpose

and that is know your God as one, worship Him and do good.
And as for matthew 26:28 honestly you guys dont even understand the bible, pls kindly read from verse 26-29 maybe you will understand the message.

mustymatic:


Jesus rebuts the false charge of his enemies that he was ambiguous in his claims to being the Messiah that they were waiting for. He says that he did tell them clearly enough, yet they would not listen to him,

25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and you believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And [size=18pt]I give unto them eternal life[/size]; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND.
29 My Father which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND.

How can anyone be so blind as not to see the exactness of the ending of the last two verses.

But spiritual blinkers are more impervious than physical
defects. He is telling the Jews and recording for posterity, the real unity or relationship between the Father and the son.
The most crucial verse -
30 I and my Father are one.

One in what? In their Omniscience? In their Nature? In their Omnipotence? No! One in purpose! That once a believer has accepted faith, the Messenger sees to it that he remains in faith, and God Almighty also sees to it that he remains in faith. This is the purpose of the "Father" AND the "son" AND the "Holy Ghost" AND of every man AND every woman of faith.

John explain his Gnostic mystic words:

That they all may be ONE; as thou. Father, art in
me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us...
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made
perfect in ONE . . .
John 17:20-22

nd according to your own bible God has sons
by the tons, can they all be gods?
Can't you see that in the language of the Jew, every righteous person, every Tom, Dick and Harry who followed the Will and Plan of God, was a SON OF
GOD. It was a metaphorical descriptive term, commonly used among the Jews. [b]

"...Adam, which was the SON OF GOD."
Luke 3:38
"That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair...
"And when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them..."
Genesis 6:2&4
"...Israel is MY SON, even my firstborn:"
Exodus 4:22
"...for I (God) am a FATHER to Israel, and Ephraim is my
firstborn."
Jeremiah 31:9

"...the Lord hath said unto me, (David) Thou art MY SON: this day have I BEGOTTEN thee."
Psalms 2:7

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the
SONS OF GOD."
Romans1 8
[/b]

And lastly for Jesus to die on the cross would have meant the triumph of his executioners; but the Quran asserts that they undoubtedly failed: "Assuredly God will defend those who believe";. He confounds the plots of the enemies of Isah (Jesus)... merciful God.
And yes I'll stick to Islam...

Christianity is too hard twisted for every sane person

Auki:
The Jesus (peace be on him), I know, whom I love as a Muslim, came to confirm a simple message-No brain gymnastic.

1.There is only ONE God, whom all depend. He begets not, nor is He begotten; And none is like Him.

Later scribe exaggerated and invented Jesus divinity. Do your research it is actually worth doing.

Peace be on you(the reader)[b][/b]

minifuworld:
i dont know that am discusing with antichrist all these while

mustymatic:

[b]
Jesus rebuts the false charge of his enemies that he was ambiguous in his claims to being the Messiah that they were waiting for. He says that he did tell them clearly enough, yet they would not listen to him,

25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and you believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are
not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND.
29 My Father which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND.

How can anyone be so blind as not to see the exactness of the ending of the last two verses. But spiritual blinkers are more impervious than physical
defects. He is telling the Jews and recording for posterity, the real unity or relationship between the Father and the son.
The most crucial verse -
30 I and my Father are one.

One in what? In their Omniscience? In their Nature? In their Omnipotence? No! One in purpose! That once a believer has accepted faith, the Messenger sees to it that he remains in faith, and God Almighty also sees to it that he remains in faith. This is the purpose of the "Father" AND the "son" AND the "Holy Ghost" AND of every man AND every woman of faith.

John explain his Gnostic mystic words:

That they all may be ONE; as thou. Father, art in
me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us...
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made
perfect in ONE . . .
John 17:20-22 [/b]
And according to your own bible God has sons
by the tons, can they all be gods?
Can't you see that in the language of the Jew, every righteous person, every Tom, Dick and Harry who followed the Will and Plan of God, was a SON OF
GOD. It was a metaphorical descriptive term, commonly used among the Jews.

"...Adam, which was the SON OF GOD."
Luke 3:38
"That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair...
"And when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them..."
Genesis 6:2&4
"...Israel is MY SON, even my firstborn:"
Exodus 4:22
"...for I (God) am a FATHER to Israel, and Ephraim is my
firstborn."
Jeremiah 31:9
"...the Lord hath said unto me, (David) Thou art MY SON: this day have I BEGOTTEN thee."
Psalms 2:7
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the
SONS OF GOD."
Romans1 8

And lastly for Jesus to die on the cross would have meant the triumph of his executioners; but the Quran asserts that they undoubtedly failed: "Assuredly God will defend those who believe";. He confounds the plots of the enemies of Isah (Jesus)... merciful God.
And yes I'll stick to Islam... Christianity is too hard twisted for every sane person

minifuworld:
i dont know that am discusing with antichrist all these while

minifuworld:
why did you ignore verse 29 and 30 Wch is the most important?

iLiquidator:
A rule of thumb in Islam is that a Muslim must believe in Jesus. Any Muslim that reject Jesus is not a Muslim. Our difference is that we Muslims believe him to be a prophet born by virgin Mary. He isn't a God.

minifuworld:
we accept jesus christ and we follow his teachings but we did not accept him as God or son of God or lord and personal savior because he never teaches that

mustymatic:

Yes you are right, but let's view the commandments, muslims still follow them more often than christians

minifuworld:
we accept jesus christ and we follow his teachings but we did not accept him as God or son of God or lord and personal savior because he never teaches that