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Lennycool:
Why did your God let them suffer in the first place?
If they die they will return to the earth and bring about more life, it is the circle of life. Live grow die. Repeat.

kaylivin:
there is a fact am so sure of .. that is the fact that there is a supreme being (yes I said its a fact )

firstking01:
Read isaiah 6 you will understand the true meaning of cherubin and seraphin...it's not what mere men have made it seem...just go digest that isaiah chapt 6 then i bet you view of cherubin and seraphin will change.

Immorttal:
i learnt that you are now deist. so what next. agnostic? i like how you are evolving.

timoteus:
Lol
This is not lion king .
Live grow die... are you so sure ??
I could try preaching to you but you've had that your whole life.
Why did you create the topic self ??
Are you confused or you just looking for encouragement ? Are you searching for what to believe in ?
Waheva your reason is your business, keep searching I pray you get the answers you search for .

By the way if you had been going to church since you were a kid and you still doubt the existence of God, you've wasted alot of time in your life
Not an insult but that's the truth

skywalker001:
if you dont know the real answer let me help u wit it. jesus(yeshua) is the son of yahweh(satan)... not all the lies u've bin reading in your story book

KingEbukasBlog:
What ?!

Me a deist ?



I'm a staunch Christian just that I'm very fascinated by deism . Then I want to know about other depictions of God like in pantheism , panentheism , pandeism etc and also understand the heretical teachings in Christianity , just for the sake of knowledge. And have confabulations with the proponents/adherents of those worldviews and teachings - understanding why they hold such beliefs and of course point out the weaknesses of those beliefs .

And when I tell people atheism has absolutely nothing to offer , I aint joking bruh . That sh.it is empty and vapid .

Akdegreat:
With an honest aim of understanding the nature of God and his wonder displayed in nature, I had set out on a quest for 'truth'. As a very inquisitive person, a sound background in scientific methods further fueled my already curious and inquisitive nature beyond normal.

As a kid, I asked several questions;
"Since God created everything that exist, what if God never existed, and hence nothing whatsoever exists? I often tried to picture a dark and void space remaining that way for all of eternity!! Whenever I did, I got lost in my wild imaginations"
"How did God come to be? Who created him?"
"What if God never created life? How would the earth be then? I often repeated same imaginations again but this time with planets, asteroids and other heavenly bodies. Of course I got lost again, severally"
"What if I was never born? So I would never have experienced the beauty of life? Scary!"
"Why did Lucifer ruin the Paradise? For Christ sakes we all would have been there now. Why didn't God even kill Lucifer at once earlier to prevent it? He knew the future!"

I grew up into a devote Christian with different questions;
"With the so many religions on earth could we possibly be worshipping the same God in different ways?"
"If the God I worship in the bible is the one true God and creator of the universe, would he destroy non-christians in hell simply because they worshipped him wrongly?"
"Would God really condemn a devote Christian to hell after years of righteous living simply because he erred one time and dies without repentance? Would he now allow a person who has done heinous things into paradise simply because he finally accepts the salvation story in the end?". I had many more questions that bothered my mind but I'd stop there.

These questions didn't matter so much as I still upheld the Bible as truth and lived by its doctrines. On a second thought they must have sown the seed of doubt in my mind; a seed that came to germinate later on.
A lot of things happened during my undergraduate study that shook my belief but for the sake of brevity, I'd mention a few..
I held the opinion that "compared to clerics, scientists better understood the awesomeness and magnificence of God". Come to think of it this way, with every scientific discovery, scientists reveal God's wonder in nature while clerics keep 'recycling' doctrines written in our ancient Holy Bible. The beautiful works of God in nature were unreconcilable with the barbarisms attributed to him in the bible. When some Bible claims corroborate with scientific findings we're good, but when 'outrageous' claims are found in the Bible, we are convinced that they're metaphorical with deeper meaning. Gradually, it became obvious that science had more credence compared to religion. My religiosity reduced drastically as well as my total trust in the bible as ultimate truth. Not sure anymore, I wondered if there's a creator (God) or not. I mean, 'the Bible must have so poorly described God' I thought.

Aside from bible, I sought knowledge of God from various books on religion, spirituality and nature. I read the Qur'an and it bored me. I came across "Earth's Chronicles, The 12th Planet, and other controversial books by Zecharia Sitchin. They were indeed controversial, and I asked myself 'how did he know all those things?' The works of Thomas Paine is worthy of mention. I agreed with him largely, especially his 'Age of Reason'. I discussed my thoughts with another 'thinker' (I choose not to mention his name) and he introduced me to the 'Sumerian Texts', the 'Epic of Gilgamesh' among other amazing books. Wow! What have I been doing. They shared similarities with the Bible so I couldn't help but wonder and ask more questions. 'Did I believe in a big lie all these while?' ...

zfinix:
morality was built from the bible it is the basis of what is good and what is bad. the bible is the very foundation of morality if there isnt God then why try to be good. if we just live and die so we can also do any thing we like.

Wilgrea7:
the thing that causes this kind of stuff is curiosity... curiosity kills the cat.. follow Christianity or else you'll burn forever... hahhaahahahahaha(evil laugh)



JUST KIDDING

ok .. concerning your questions... I've been there before and when u try to ask your theist friends they will accuse u of questioning God. and that can be very annoying

truth is.... the qualities i used to describe God were only from what people told me.. not from research.. when u do research you'll find out many answers.

lemme tell u something about God almighty that makes him God
1. he has no beginning... if he did then he's not God
2. he wasn't created. if he was then he's not God
3. he doesn't send anyone to a burning valley for all eternity.. that was a scare tactic used by your ancient church fathers to keep u in line.. u will be judged and either rewarded or punished according to your actions
4. he is definitely not a sadistic person as people paint him to be
5. his word is infallible.. his word is perfect.. his word is Jesus and not some book.

If u learn the true nature of God you'll know that some things ascribed to him are not actually him but someone else in disguise..

questions are gladly welcomed

Lennycool:
Keep learning and you might just become an atheist by accident.

TheSixthSense:
True confessions

Lennycool:
You would be unable to prove this fact if put to the test.

Lennycool:
You're just saying complete rubbish and you think its smart or poetic.
"I lack the belief that candy is sweet, I have knowledge of candy being sweet. I don't believe candy is sweet."
Utter crap, please don't claim what you are not.

JSoE:
Will you keep quiet?
When we tell you to read good books you'd prefer to continue thumping the bible and revelling in your delusions.
I don't have the strength to start tutoring you on morality.
Look at the picture, honey.

ObiChiz08:
You're not alone bro
I'm gradually pulling away from religion, nothing fascinates me about going to church unlike before. Christians are suffering cos of religion, Pastors aren't helping matters at all cos they seem bigger than God. What's d essence of going to church when d messages preached are repetition of previous messages? I just hope I don't slip away fully

kaylivin:
will u conclude that a car just appeared .. or your phone built itself by chance ... so why would you conclude that the delicate position of the earth in the solar system happened by chance .. or the complexity of human DNA happened by chance .. that we dont know how it happened does not make it logical to conclude that a creator does not exited .. I did not even read the bible to have an encounter with God .. I dont even see the bible as the express word of God .. I even believe mans manipulations is in some of its writings ... but pls open your heart to search genuinely for the creator and u will find him

datigbogirl:
If anyone does these things you wrote up there, he'll only end up becoming psychotic which will eventually make h8m "see" god

Raydos:
i want to ask three questions!


(1) how often do you fast?


(2) do you pray at least 10times a day?


(3) do you distance yourself from sin?


you don't do all these things and you expect GOD to show itself to you! - scientists have tried their best to find where GOD is really is but all to no avail so they conclude that there's no GOD!


just because people Don't see GOD Face to face so they have a mere intuition that GOD Doesn't exist - but funny enough you people have never seen devil in person yet you believe he exist, every bad thing that happen to you, you believe its always the handiwork of devil.

try to do all those 3 aforementioned list up there, and i asure you that GOD will see you in spirit and he will make you understand everything.

i am a living testimony

KingEbukasBlog:
What ?!

Me a deist ?



I'm a staunch Christian just that I'm very fascinated by deism . Then I want to know about other depictions of God like in pantheism , panentheism , pandeism etc and also understand the heretical teachings in Christianity , just for the sake of knowledge. And have confabulations with the proponents/adherents of those worldviews and teachings - understanding why they hold such beliefs and of course point out the weaknesses of those beliefs .

And when I tell people atheism has absolutely nothing to offer , I aint joking bruh . That sh.it is empty and vapid .

JSoE:
Will you keep quiet?
When we tell you to read good books you'd prefer to continue thumping the bible and revelling in your delusions.
I don't have the strength to start tutoring you on morality.
Look at the picture, honey.

felixomor1:
Romans 10:9

KingEbukasBlog:
How is that even possible? I just told that atheism has nothing to offer - its empty , vapid , soporific arguments with the atheists .

Mujtahida:
This is what wearied me with Christianity: it's all a book thing, the book called the Bible. The christian god lives in the book, talks in the book, is very active in every page in the book, does wonders in the book, intervenes in people's lives in the book, answers prayers in the book. Christians when questioned will point to that book: did Jesus exist? - book, did he die, resurrect and ascended? -book, did pentecost happen? -book, book, book! No life, the vast majority have no direct personal experience and relationship with the things written in the book or preached in church. Even their book has warned them- the letter(book) kills... No wonder a lot of them are just lifeless and spiritually effete

Proffdada:
and how did you know this?

Akdegreat:
Yes I agree with you. But I was an 'active' Christian. I was captain in our children department then. I participated and represented RCCG East 1 province in children's bible quiz severally, even at National convention in the camp. I was an active chorister. I used to sweep and clean the church premises every Saturday with my parents and siblings. Anyone who knows me can attest.

Akdegreat:
With an honest aim of understanding the nature of God and his wonder displayed in nature, I had set out on a quest for 'truth'. As a very inquisitive person, a sound background in scientific methods further fueled my already curious and inquisitive nature beyond normal.

As a kid, I asked several questions;
"Since God created everything that exist, what if God never existed, and hence nothing whatsoever exists? I often tried to picture a dark and void space remaining that way for all of eternity!! Whenever I did, I got lost in my wild imaginations"
"How did God come to be? Who created him?"
"What if God never created life? How would the earth be then? I often repeated same imaginations again but this time with planets, asteroids and other heavenly bodies. Of course I got lost again, severally"
"What if I was never born? So I would never have experienced the beauty of life? Scary!"
"Why did Lucifer ruin the Paradise? For Christ sakes we all would have been there now. Why didn't God even kill Lucifer at once earlier to prevent it? He knew the future!"

I grew up into a devote Christian with different questions;
"With the so many religions on earth could we possibly be worshipping the same God in different ways?"
"If the God I worship in the bible is the one true God and creator of the universe, would he destroy non-christians in hell simply because they worshipped him wrongly?"
"Would God really condemn a devote Christian to hell after years of righteous living simply because he erred one time and dies without repentance? Would he now allow a person who has done heinous things into paradise simply because he finally accepts the salvation story in the end?". I had many more questions that bothered my mind but I'd stop there.

These questions didn't matter so much as I still upheld the Bible as truth and lived by its doctrines. On a second thought they must have sown the seed of doubt in my mind; a seed that came to germinate later on.
A lot of things happened during my undergraduate study that shook my belief but for the sake of brevity, I'd mention a few..
I held the opinion that "compared to clerics, scientists better understood the awesomeness and magnificence of God". Come to think of it this way, with every scientific discovery, scientists reveal God's wonder in nature while clerics keep 'recycling' doctrines written in our ancient Holy Bible. The beautiful works of God in nature were unreconcilable with the barbarisms attributed to him in the bible. When some Bible claims corroborate with scientific findings we're good, but when 'outrageous' claims are found in the Bible, we are convinced that they're metaphorical with deeper meaning. Gradually, it became obvious that science had more credence compared to religion. My religiosity reduced drastically as well as my total trust in the bible as ultimate truth. Not sure anymore, I wondered if there's a creator (God) or not. I mean, 'the Bible must have so poorly described God' I thought.

Aside from bible, I sought knowledge of God from various books on religion, spirituality and nature. I read the Qur'an and it bored me. I came across "Earth's Chronicles, The 12th Planet, and other controversial books by Zecharia Sitchin. They were indeed controversial, and I asked myself 'how did he know all those things?' The works of Thomas Paine is worthy of mention. I agreed with him largely, especially his 'Age of Reason'. I discussed my thoughts with another 'thinker' (I choose not to mention his name) and he introduced me to the 'Sumerian Texts', the 'Epic of Gilgamesh' among other amazing books. Wow! What have I been doing. They shared similarities with the Bible so I couldn't help but wonder and ask more questions. 'Did I believe in a big lie all these while?' ...

skywalker001:
Your story book said little about it that jesus is d son of yahweh... And yahweh is one of d first homos(gods) that came to mak findings about the planet earth among others which are atum(eartum), chimides, largas(lucifer), murmoh, chaleb and ephradites. later many other joined them on earth which are enki, enlil, el, abassi, olorun, vinshu, odin, etc... And each god make homos(humans) and because of their fight for land and power they began SPIRITUAL POLITICS(RELIGION) which is the origin of many religions on earth today