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Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Eastactivist: 2:48pm On Nov 13, 2016
MrTolu:
You got it wrong. The Senate President is just first among equals and he answers to the other 108 senators. And they can remove him in the blink of an eye if he fumbles. Senators can decide to remove their SP in just 1hour if they don't like him anymore

But the VP answers to the President and the President cannot remove him from office. It's hard to remove the Vp. It takes many steps and can only be done by 2/3 of both the Senate and House of Reps. And that's only if the committee created by the Chief Justice of the Federation finds him guilty of the offense raised against him. If not chikena 4yrs go complete
Senate president answers to no one Oga... If is like that the president answers to no one as he can also be impeached by the senators within a short time frame... Not to talk of common vp
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by playboy99(m): 3:09pm On Nov 13, 2016
BrokenTV:
He is a Fulani man, who with his comrade captured an Afonja state.
and decided to be called bukola which i guess is a fulani name lol
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by tempel(m): 3:22pm On Nov 13, 2016
It democracy it is the vp but politics makes the Senate president more powerful since he's the head of an arm of government
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by ndcide(m): 3:42pm On Nov 13, 2016
jowhyte:
Please between a vice president an a senate president positions in Nigeria, who I more influential and politically relevant in Nigeria?.

Please reasons for your answers would highly be appreciated.

Thanks
It supposed to be the VP. But this is how it goes. Take one person from each arm of government. And the cycle continues. The only issue is the dual legislative house.

The head of each arm goes before their subordinates.
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Nobody: 3:45pm On Nov 13, 2016
Sai ABS
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by lekonso: 3:47pm On Nov 13, 2016
Eastactivist:
Senate president of course...

The Senate president answers to no murrafucker except his mind...

But can you say so for the Vp? Your answer is good as mine...

Besides the man and his fellow afonjas are praying and wishing buhari dies in office so their afonja son will be the president... But the Northerners are too magical for the prayers and wish to come true...

And SS and SE are also praying for buhari to remain hearty, bc we can tolerate buhari but for an afonja, is a no no
You flat head race can never rule this country
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by MrTolu(m): 3:49pm On Nov 13, 2016
Eastactivist:
Senate president answers to no one Oga... If is like that the president answers to no one as he can also be impeached by the senators within a short time frame... Not to talk of common vp
Do you understand how parliament works. The Senate President cannot make any decision without the consent of the majority of the Senators.

The impeachment of Senate president takes just a normal vote within just the Senate it can be done in under an hour.

The Senate alone cannot remove the President and the Vice President. The Senate and House of Reps can't even remove the President and Vice President without the support of the Chief Justice. Both Senate and House of Reps can only impeach President and Vice president only if the committee set up by the Chief Justice finds them guilty. If the Chief Justice is loyal to the Presidency and the Vice there is nothing the National Assembly can do
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by smartleo(m): 3:55pm On Nov 13, 2016
modath:
This OP is a learner (like his type that have created this same thread in the past)

The thread is a deliberate attempt to malign VP Osibanjo.... The objective is to paint him as a lame duck & shoot daggers his way...He ain't slick.. cool
If truly he wants to know, he should cast his mind back to Atiku during Obasanjo's era & like you pointed out, IB the clueless 1 is another example... If we want to be facetious, we can take it lower & point out PYO acted for 2wks a couple of months ago & got to enjoy all the trappings of the office, something we are all aware, Saraki would have given both arms, legs & a kidney for.

In the American system that we claim to have modeled our disastrous system that we practise self deceit & claim it is democracy does not have a seperate SP, the VP is the head of the senate.... We just love to duplicate roles so the largesse can get around...
This op get sense pass normal
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by MrTolu(m): 3:59pm On Nov 13, 2016
Eastactivist:
Senate president answers to no one Oga... If is like that the president answers to no one as he can also be impeached by the senators within a short time frame... Not to talk of common vp
The Vice Presidency you refer to as common VP flies a branded Nigerian Air force jet across the globe. He's given the Presidential treatment any country he travels worldwide. He goes through the Presidential wing in any airport worldwide. He has 24/7 DSS protection.

He's driven in a customized bullet proof Mercedes S550.

You can check the budget and see how much is allocated the offce of the Vice President.

If you refer to that as common bro how will you refer to your state Governor ? Huh?
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Eastactivist: 4:07pm On Nov 13, 2016
MrTolu:
The Vice Presidency you refer to as common VP flies a branded Nigerian Air force jet across the globe. He's given the Presidential treatment any country he travels worldwide. He goes through the Presidential wing in any airport worldwide. He has 24/7 DSS protection.

He's driven in a customized bullet proof Mercedes S550.

You can check the budget and see how much is allocated the offce of the Vice President.

If you refer to that as common bro how will you refer to your state Governor ? Huh?
Vp no get power as far as the president is involved. That's what I mean by common, even the Senate president is also treated like that and commands more power and respect than the Vp...
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Eastactivist: 4:10pm On Nov 13, 2016
lekonso:
You flat head race can never rule this country

Says the treacherous, bittered, used and dumped afonjas... Let's wait and see...
Igbo presidency is sure as rain in the rain forest now even the northern statesmans have started picking interest for an igbo presidency... You can hide a 9 month pregnancy, can you... grin
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by MrOdyssey(m): 4:31pm On Nov 13, 2016
themosthigh:
God is dead and heaven is in turmoil, satan and his falled angels have taken over the exalted throne of the almighty and have locked christ in the bottomless pit.
The angels have joined forces with lucifer and have taken over the golden palaces of heaven.
The saints have been massacred and their golden essence have been taken up to add to satans powers.
we have a new lord and master on earth and in the heavens.
All hail satan the lord of light, first among the angels,bringer of knowledege, conqueror of the despotic jehovah, enslaver of christ, master of space,lord of time, emperor of the universe etc

Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by franugo(m): 4:33pm On Nov 13, 2016
ojibole1:
Didn't u do govt as a subject in sec school? It's d senate president after d president.
which sec school ü go again?
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by franugo(m): 4:51pm On Nov 13, 2016
tonquendo4u:
Vice president Na civil servant nah.Even perm secs get power pass am
u obviously need to up ur brainpower
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Chigold101(m): 5:15pm On Nov 13, 2016
jowhyte:
Please between a vice president an a senate president positions in Nigeria, who I more influential and politically relevant in Nigeria?.

Please reasons for your answers would highly be appreciated.

Thanks
as Saraki is taller than Osinbajo so is Senate President is TALLER than Vice President...

Any more question?
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Nobody: 5:49pm On Nov 13, 2016
docmoses:
please my brother come forward come don't be afraid. what is happening to you eh is not ordinary oh God has remembered you today
Oyaa raise your hands up
Raise it up very well
Then bend it and place it on your head... Preferably where your mind tells you your brain is located
Then repeat this prayer after me
My father! My father!! Where ever they have buried my sense and my brain in my village
in the coven I command them to vomit it now in Jesus name Amen AIRFORCE1 join this prayer
grin grin this seriously got me laughing
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Olumaeme: 6:10pm On Nov 13, 2016
MrTolu:
Bro think twice. Even State governors that are God father's to House of Assembly speakers are fighting for the seat of Vice president. The likes of Atiku, Jonathan and Sambo left their governorship to jump at the seat of VP. So can you see how important the Vp seat is if incumbent Governors can forfeit it to become VP.
They would leave their seat base on some conditions with their successors.
I will tell you for free that, there would be certain percentage of their allocation they will get.

We are talking on a plain ground, even on this ground I will never leave Governorship seat for Vice presidency... Lai Lai
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by olumy05(m): 7:25pm On Nov 13, 2016
omenka:
****South Southerners aren't this useless, we know the people responsible for all that stuff on the forum.

Per Op, frankly, the "political relevance" of these offices depend on their occupants. For instance, you certainly couldn't compare Ken Nnamani to Atiku back then much the same way (in reverse) Saraki appears to wield more power than Osinbajo.

Sometimes, you could even have a vice president stronger than the president or the Senate president wielding more influence than the president- take Jonathan and Mark for instance.

So, it all depends on the occupant and not really the position itself. But when you talk about constitutional powers, of course the Vice president wields more than the Senate president.
l love ur point brother, God bless u for that insight.
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by MrTolu(m): 8:33pm On Nov 13, 2016
Olumaeme:
They would leave their seat base on some conditions with their successors.
I will tell you for free that, there would be certain percentage of their allocation they will get.

We are talking on a plain ground, even on this ground I will never leave Governorship seat for Vice presidency... Lai Lai
At least you've accepted the fact. Be bold to accept the obvious those 3 men I named are more experienced politically than you are.

And if they didn't think the VP seat will make them more relevant, they would have remained a Governor. The VP commands respect wherever he travels to worldwide while it's rare to recognize A Governor out of the country.

Forget about state allocations if you have a corrupt President and a corrupt Vice President no Governor can match them Naira for Naira or dollar for dollar. VP Atiku spent 8years as Vice President and no Governor during their 8years tenure can still match his money Naira for Naira or Dollar for dollar excluding Tinubu and that's because of the status of Lagos as another country on its own.
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by ofuonyebi: 9:49pm On Nov 13, 2016
Popularity in this case, is a matter of the mind or semantics....all of you only looked at one way traffic.

You all forget to look at it with the shameful eyes of corruption, fraud and sleaze of the Nigerian commonwealth

on one side..but on the other side, politics is not complete without the leader who must be faithful, loyal and honest

to serve according to the oath of office they swore to...On this honorable note of integrity of service, ...the VP have it.. gbam!
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by ceejay4real(m): 12:28am On Nov 14, 2016
themosthigh:
God is dead and heaven is in turmoil, satan and his falled angels have taken over the exalted throne of the almighty and have locked christ in the bottomless pit.
The angels have joined forces with lucifer and have taken over the golden palaces of heaven.
The saints have been massacred and their golden essence have been taken up to add to satans powers.
we have a new lord and master on earth and in the heavens.
All hail satan the lord of light, first among the angels,bringer of knowledege, conqueror of the despotic jehovah, enslaver of christ, master of space,lord of time, emperor of the universe etc
Are you ok? I doubt it very much! Please take the next cab to Yaba left cos you've already lost your sanity. It remains for you to start raving mad on the streets!
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by TijaniAbu: 3:34am On Nov 14, 2016
modath:
This OP is a learner (like his type that have created this same thread in the past)

The thread is a deliberate attempt to malign VP Osibanjo.... The objective is to paint him as a lame duck & shoot daggers his way...He ain't slick.. cool
If truly he wants to know, he should cast his mind back to Atiku during Obasanjo's era & like you pointed out, IB the clueless 1 is another example... If we want to be facetious, we can take it lower & point out PYO acted for 2wks a couple of months ago & got to enjoy all the trappings of the office, something we are all aware, Saraki would have given both arms, legs & a kidney for.

In the American system that we claim to have modeled our disastrous system that we practise self deceit & claim it is democracy does not have a seperate SP, the VP is the head of the senate.... We just love to duplicate roles so the largesse can get around...
Poor Fake Pastor Vice President of Vice Yemi Osinbajo. Is he praying to his false god that Nigeria will hand over the senate presidency to his dwarf midget self? The pathologically lying didinrin
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by TijaniAbu: 3:39am On Nov 14, 2016
MrTolu:
At least you've accepted the fact. Be bold to accept the obvious those 3 men I named are more experienced politically than you are.

And if they didn't think the VP seat will make them more relevant, they would have remained a Governor. The VP commands respect wherever he travels to worldwide while it's rare to recognize A Governor out of the country.

Forget about state allocations if you have a corrupt President and a corrupt Vice President no Governor can match them Naira for Naira or dollar for dollar. VP Atiku spent 8years as Vice President and no Governor during their 8years tenure can still match his money Naira for Naira or Dollar for dollar excluding Tinubu and that's because of the status of Lagos as another country on its own.
Too bad, Buhari does not allow Fake Pastor VP to travelling around the world let alone "commanding respect" ha ha ha! Why is Fake Pastor VP Liar Mere Commissioner Yemi Osinbajo so obsessed with travelling around the world as VP? Him never travel before?
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by SamiraF: 4:45am On Nov 14, 2016
MrTolu:
It's so sad some Nairalanders are ill informed. Using the case of VP Osinbajo and SP Saraki as an example. Sen Saraki will give everything in life to surge to the seat of Vice President. Prof Osinbajo might not be a career politician but I can beat my chest that most Christians in Nigeria voted for the Buhari/ Osinbajo ticket because Prof Osinbajo was a pastor and that garnered more vote for the ticket. To a degree that could be political influence in a country wide election.

The Vp has more powers being just 1 step away in line of succession to the presidency.

1. He's the chairman of the National Economic Council. Ask the Governors in Nigeria who they'll rather offend btw the VP and the SP. Most governors will choose to surge to be in the post of VP than SP.

2. The VP enjoys immunity, the SP doesn't. You can gain more influence politically with your immunity as you can do many things and get away without being hurt.

3. The VP is very hard to impeach just as the President which may take months and enjoys stability but the SP can be impeached under 1hour just within the Senate and becomes a floor member like others becoming less relevant.

4. The VP has more influence in ECOWAS and Africa as a whole and most times nobody knows the SP outside the country.
Osinbajo is the instigator of this thread. If he is so important and so happy with his powers why is he coveting the seat of the Senate President? Saraki, a 2 times governor and former head of Nigeria Governor's Forum was elected to the seat of senate president on his political prowess. Yemi Osinbajo was woken from his indolence to be placed as stooge vice president by Tinubu for only 3 reasons, he was a supposedly christian pastor, he was Tinubu's mastermind of twisted legal devices to snatch power in the southwest by coercing the bribed judiciary, and he was married to Awolowo's granddaughter, a name Tinubu wished to use, not so different from Bola Ahmed of Iragbiji, Oyo State, hijacking, falsely, of the Tinubu name. In Osinbajo's irresponsible incompetence he has dwindled Tinubu's influence to irrelevance. Yemi Osinbajo is guilty of all the deadly sins, covetousness, malice and lies. President Buhari is alive hale and hearty. He has given Osinbajo the economy like vice president's around the world. Osinbajo has run Nigeria's economy aground while glorifying in temporary and temporal trappings of public office. He must truly be a fake pastor, covetous fellow that will be Buhari's undoing. Playing with a fire he can neither light nor quench. Disgusting dwarf. What value are the rubbish immunity and other nonsense he has listed above when he must answer to God? Yemi Osinbajo has zero political clout and cannot work to achieve it, or run the economy. The sooner Buhari removes him the better for Nigeria to know progress. A man so covetous can plot against the President.
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by AlPeter: 8:30am On Nov 14, 2016
Eastactivist:
Vp no get power as far as the president is involved. That's what I mean by common, even the Senate president is also treated like that and commands more power and respect than the Vp...
truly your understanding of politics needs serious review.
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Eastactivist: 8:46am On Nov 14, 2016
AlPeter:
truly your understanding of politics needs serious review.

You mean Nigeria politics?
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Nobody: 8:49am On Nov 14, 2016
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Ugosample(m): 10:53pm On Nov 14, 2016
Olumaeme:
They would leave their seat base on some conditions with their successors.
I will tell you for free that, there would be certain percentage of their allocation they will get.

We are talking on a plain ground, even on this ground I will never leave Governorship seat for Vice presidency... Lai Lai
lol!!
You are not sure of what you are saying bro
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by Nobody: 11:08pm On Nov 14, 2016
omenka:
****South Southerners aren't this useless, we know the people responsible for all that stuff on the forum.

Per Op, frankly, the "political relevance" of these offices depend on their occupants. For instance, you certainly couldn't compare Ken Nnamani to Atiku back then much the same way (in reverse) Saraki appears to wield more power than Osinbajo.

Sometimes, you could even have a vice president stronger than the president or the Senate president wielding more influence than the president- take Jonathan and Mark for instance.

So, it all depends on the occupant and not really the position itself. But when you talk about constitutional powers, of course the Vice president wields more than the Senate president.
Hian General Omenka, you fall my hand. So you mean the VP wields more constitutional power in a three arm government more than the SP? Where is the check and balance na? The VP is only relevant in his sub-domain, which is a sub-position to the commander in chief.... The constitution recognizes these bodies in their order and sphere of operation, the executive, the legislature, and the judiciary.
So how the VP come take pass the SP? Abeg digress.... cool
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by tonquendo4u(m): 6:48am On Nov 15, 2016
franugo:
u obviously need to up ur brainpower
Just after you afonja
Re: Vice President Vs Senate President: Who Is More Politically Relevant In Nigeria? by balosunky(m): 8:22am On Nov 18, 2016
I pray we both live long to witness it. If not for the same yoruba man do you think any southern can smell the presidental seat and it took a yoruba man to send him packing
CSTR13:
I doubt if that will happen again.
A yoruba man will have a hard time becoming a southern consensus candidate.
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