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You are not being smart here. Sudan fought a civil war for over 3years before they got their independence from North Sudan, Biafra fought a civil war for 3years to gain independence from British-backed Nigeria, did you free them? No!

USSR did not grant independence to member states, they disintegrated, it was a case of the centre unable to hold it's component due to economic meltdtown.

You're comparing Blue to Red. Stop it.[/quote

Please tell me the countries or atleast a country that has secession in its constitition.

exactly my point from your second paragraph independence is not given it's taken. Have you ever read the UN chatter for self determination.

Now tell me who is playing smart here.

Diademk07:


What a delusion! LOL!

SERIOUSLY WHY ARE THE YORUBAS ALWAYS TOSSED HITHER AND YONDER LIKE A LEAF CAST ON OCEAN WAVES

Diademk07:


What a delusion! LOL!

SERIOUSLY WHY ARE THE YORUBAS ALWAYS TOSSED HITHER AND YONDER LIKE A LEAF CAST ON OCEAN WAVES?

aresssa:
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Stop that rubbish.


Majority Nigerians got rid of Jona and last I checked, Yoruba people are not the majority in Nigeria.


Jona got kicked out because of corruption and incompetence and not because of the silly tribal nonsense you and your kind peddle all over the place..

Egbon mi, who is not corrupt or incompetent amongst all Nigeria leaders.

The problem with the Yoruba Nation is that we always see things from an Perfectionist ideal world, due to our education and training, but Nigeria is not that ideal world and most people don't care.

That was why Afeniferr and other Elders cautioned the Tinubu groups about their fight against GEJ.

Look everyone(SS,SW,SE and Northerners) knew GEJ was corrupt, but we Yorubas carried the matters on our head like Nigeria was our single creation.
And the North as usual capitalized on this.

The Yoruba Nation should stop trying to be more NIGERIA than other groups, it is not worth it.

Biafman:

Gbammm!! Nothing to add. Anything to spite the afonjas will be welcomed.

This show how foolish you people are, are u not the ones complaining about Buhari and the North before? You've always been a slave and u will continue to be a slave. That's why u can never get the presidency till Jesus come

I dont believe this story though if its true one thing is certain there can never be an accord between the North and South East irrespective of what is involved because a lot has happened and are still happening. As for the comment that " NO REGION CAN STAND WITHOUT THE YORUBAS", that is simply not true, there are three regions in Nigeria and its two to beat one formula the North applies. In my opinion, what we need right now is to unite in south and fight for true federalism.


God Bless Nigeria.

eponoloyin:

oloshi no one needs you go beg your Northern masters for freedom and let's hear word SLAVE!

e pain am, zombie + Afonja spotted

This is now official, i'm totally shocked with the comments i'm seeing here. IPOB or S/E are the most stupid tribe in Nigeria. So this fools can still support Buhari government? It's even more unfortunate that i'm engage with their woman. I'm soo piss off to the extend that I can break all my relationship with all my Igbo friends. , are u this dumb?

OILSOUP:
SS/SE NO GET ANY AGREEMENT WITH NORTH, ALL WE KNOW IS THAT YORUBA CAN NEVER WIN ANY VOTE IN THE SS/SE, WE WILL JUST VOTE THE NORTH INSTEAD.


2015 WAS AN EYE OPENER AND WE LEARNT ALOT. NORTH WILL RULE US TILL KINGDOM COME.

which mean the born to rule will sucked your oyel dried and you will continue shouting our oyel and bombing pipeline to pollute your environment till kingdom come.SW is very hard to betray in this country,Clueless man did it,he was disgraced,Buhari will know what is happening by late 2018 to 2019,even his kinsmen was warning him to stopped his act of betrayer.

Yorubas have an adage, "Oja Oyingbo, ko mo p'eni kan owa".

"The Oyingbo market is indifferent to the absense of a patron"


SW is the seat of political opposition in Nigeria. We are indifferent to the national political victory, whether its in the North or East, or if it both. To those who lack perspective on history, I ask you review the political alliance of North and East in tje first republic. If that's not enough, go and study the same alliance in second republic. In each case, West outpaced the central alliance in terms of development, growth and social upliftment. The two regions, North and East are lagging behind West.

We look forward to your re-alliance in third republic and wish luck to you.

Diademk07:


Lmao!

What's our business with Biafra? When you ipob eediots are serious, you would call your senators and politician to pass the bill for your secession instead of running on the street naked like mad people but do your politicians even have such thought? They already know what would befall a landlocked red mud erosion ravaged region as the southeast region, hence their distance from your foolishness!

As a matter of fact, we want you lots out of Nigeria as soon as possible!

I FEEL UR PAIN BRO! ME SEF NO LIKE IPOB......BT WETIN MAN GO DO?

SirShymexx:


How does that negate the fact that he was German and a lot of Germans don't claim him?

Ditto Clarence Thomas and the fact that he's a dark skinned black man of slave ancestry?

See, I don't see OBJ as a Yoruba man and if I were to write anything about Yorubas and their achievements/achievers - I'll never include his name. That's just me. And I believe I'm entitled to that, just as you're entitled to ya views.

Yeah...how would you feel if someone said your father is Igbo and quite emphatically too...against every iota of reason/commons sense...

Wont that be quite offensive?

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aresssa:
You can bark like a village bingo till eternity, I care less and I stand by my post.

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You can continue your show of shame like a whorish dog till your Waterloo...

You can smash your oblong conehead against the nearest brick wall as my verdict remains...

09xtr09r:
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Will you stop lying in the public?

Yorubas colluded with their Northern masters to edge out GEJ simply because they were not allowed to control and loot the treasury.

Yorubas are greedy, treasury looters who ruined the fortunes of this fraudulent union.

Are you a looonatic

Aren't the yeasterners already begging to align with the northerners to become their true slaves-in-alliance?

@bolded
I understand your pain...

Dammyllionaire:
This is now official, i'm totally shocked with the comments i'm seeing here. IPOB or S/E are the most stupid tribe in Nigeria. So this fools can still support Buhari government? It's even more unfortunate that i'm engage with their woman. I'm soo piss off to the extend that I can break all my relationship with all my Igbo friends. , are u this dumb?

South East Political class do not represent the aspiration of South Easterners. This is a mere puppet-ed political alliance, that may not stand, even though I doubt its credibility. We know what we want, and we will get there with time. The politicians are just entertaining themselves......

You have to check your emotion, as politics should not be the yardstick to pick who should be your friend.... friendship should be a matter of choice and interest.

Funnicator:


You are not being smart here. Sudan fought a civil war for over 3years before they got their independence from North Sudan, Biafra fought a civil war for 3years to gain independence from British-backed Nigeria, did you free them? No!

USSR did not grant independence to member states, they disintegrated, it was a case of the centre unable to hold it's component due to economic meltdown.

You're comparing Blue to Red. Stop it.

Please tell me the countries or
atleast a country that has secession
in its constitition.

exactly my point from everything you said independence is not
given it's taken, so how come you are expecting secession to be in the constitution of Nigeria ? can't you see you the point?
Now tell me who is playing smart
here.

Diademk07:


Will you shut your putrid mouth?

It is high time south east returned to their root of asslicking and paying subservience to the North like they have always done.. Talk about Balewa and his lovely bride, Zik in the 60's, Ekuweume and Shagari in the 80's, their alliance with Tofa in the 70's etc.. Should we forget their thousand march for Abacha? That's exactly what the South east are known for..

Return to your root, oh ye Ibos, if your subservience to the SS doesn't pay so well!

saying that u r high on oshogbo abi kwale weed is making excuses for u! is it d fear of having ur measure dished back to u that is making dis scared that u spew thrash from that gutter u call mouth!? anyway, we dont want an alliance with eother the north or west...we r tired of both ur lies, deceit and back stabbing! lets have true federalism or better still every area rule urself

Shewunoshewa:

Are you a looonatic

Aren't the yeasterners already begging to align with the northerners to become their true slaves-in-alliance?

@bolded
I understand your pain...

Are you a fagg0t?

You Yorrobbers are so greedy and wicked to have mortgaged your destiny and that of your offspring to your Fulani masters just for a morsel of bread.

I really feel your eternal pains and miseries as you continue to gnash your dirty teeth at the mere whispering of NK, IPOB or Biaf...

OBAGADAFFI:



Egbon mi, who is not corrupt or incompetent amongst all Nigeria leaders.

The problem with the Yoruba Nation is that we always see things from an Perfectionist ideal world, due to our education and training, but Nigeria is not that ideal world and most people don't care.

That was why Afeniferr and other Elders cautioned the Tinubu groups about their fight against GEJ.

Look everyone(SS,SW,SE and Northerners) knew GEJ was corrupt, but we Yorubas carried the matters on our head like Nigeria was our single creation.
And the North as usual capitalized on this.

The Yoruba Nation should stop trying to be more NIGERIA than other groups, it is not worth it.

Saying GEJ was corrupt and incompetent and also saying all Nigeria politicians are corrupt are 2 different things.


I said GEJ was kicked out by Nigerians for corruption and incompetence, I never said all Nigerian politicians are not corrupt.


Again, last time I checked, Nigerians from all over the country voted in that election to get rid of Jona so what's Yoruba people got to do with your argument? Were Yoruba people the only electorates in that election? Yes Or No?

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09xtr09r:


You can continue your show of shame like a whorish dog till your Waterloo...

You can smash your oblong conehead against the nearest brick wall as my verdict remains...

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You can bark like a village bingo till eternity, I care less and I stand by my post.

09xtr09r:


McTobe:

"1. the emergence of NCNC/NPC alliance to form the national government was not a planned or preconceived one it was as a factor of the parliamentary system of govt then in practice in Nigeria because NPC doesn't have the overriding majority in parliament to form govt alone winning 134 out of 312 seats & NCNC won 89.

2. SL Akintola's faction was actually the one that formed alliance with Northern Peoples Congress NPC to form Nigeria National Alliance NCNC. thus the shady way the prime minister Tafawa Balewa handled the Western Region crisis jailing pa Awolowo. Actually Zik formed Alliance with Awolowo not with the North. its your kinsman Chief Akintola that started the ass licking to score a cheap point against Awo

3. From 1962 - Civil war 1967 It was the Yoruba in alliance with the North and even when Awo came out of jail what he repaid the Zik alliance before the war was to suggest starvation as a strategy for winning the war.

4. Ekwueme/ Shagari ticket was sentimental by the Hausa/fulanis to use the igbos against the Yorubas who loved Awo more knowing that the Yorubas cannot support them. Ekwueme on the other hand is a nobody as far as politics is concerned in Igboland before then. the Igbo stood for zik & the few that think that he did not do enough doing the civil war were the ones that voted Ekwueme . Ekwueme/ Shagari ticket doesn't translate to Igbo/ Hausa alliance. Note that Ekwueme never held any Politically elective position before that time unlike Chief Akintola who was the Premiere of western region and led the Yoruba to the Alliance.

5. Why did u skip 1999 up to 2007. who gave Obj power and who was he in alliance with? who did he eventually hand over power to? I guess we all know, Hausa/Fulanis, Hausa/Fulanis, Hausa/Fulanis

6. At this junction I will simply place a link for every one to see the truth of the political alliance of the past which many know vert little about and judge for themselves.http://community.vanguardngr.com/m/discussion?id=4565467%3ATopic%3A842399

7. I challenge u to a logical argurment on this topic to dispute any of the above stated points"

1) It was not mandatory dat Azikiwe's NCNC had to form an alliance wit d northern NPC. It was a choice & an alliance of political bed-mates.

2) Why scapegoating Akintola when d two alliances, d NNA & d UPGA were based more on ideology than regionalism as can be seen frm their composition.
a) d NNA comprised of d NPC (North), NDP (SW), the Midwest Democratic Front, the Dynamic Party , d Niger Delta Congress , d Lagos State United Front & d Republican Party.
b) d UPGA consisted of d NCNC (S/E), AG (S/W), d Northern Progressive Front, d Kano People's Party, d Northern Elements Progressive Union, d United Middle Belt Congress & d Zamfara Commoners Party.

4) Ekwueme & Shagari were both of d NPN. I agree dat dis does not translate to Hausa/Igbo ticket. However, after winning d elections d NPN entered into an alliance wit Azikiwe's NPP in d NPN/NPP alliance which resulted in d NPP's Ume-Ezeoke becoming d speaker of d house of Representatives.

5) In 1999 -2003, the yoruba were in opposition as reflected by their unwavering support for d AD which stood as opposition to Obasanjo & his PDP. d yoruba candidate in dat election was Chief Olu Falae. Obasanjo was d PDP/North/S. East candidate. He did not even win his electoral ward in yoruba land. However, in 2003-2007 using his power of incumbency, he was able to make some incursions into yoruba land. Inspite of his incursions, his greatest opposition was frm yoruba land.

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aresssa:
You can bark like a village bingo till eternity, I care less and I stand by my post.

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You can continue your abominable acts like a whorish dog till you meet your Waterloo sooner than later.

My verdict on your miserable life remains unchanged.

N.B: You tribalists colluding to ban my handles will not deter me from placing you hypocrites in the abysmal pit of nothingness where you duly belong.

Ryabcool:
fact is, the mutual mistrust and betrayals between the SW and SE is so deep, that it might take many generations to dissipate. No true United alliance can be formed, but beneficial alliance based on mutual respect from a distance will get the job done

Well, if the North that is not trusted either can form alliance with SW or SE at will, why can't SW & SE try to achieve a common cause through a loose alliance?
SE & SW mistrust is hurting the whole South & in deed the whole country.
If the North can have a full religious law code & way of live with , maybe Boko will have little attraction & chance to thrive.

SE, SW & SS can pursue their own destiny with more freedom. But right now, SW/SE are playing into the hands of Ahmadu Bello's openly expressed ideology: never to allow the entire South have control over their destiny and remain Uthman Dan Fodio's conquered territory.

09xtr09r:


Are you a fagg0t?

You Yorrobbers are so greedy and wicked to have mortgaged your destiny and that of your offspring to your Fulani masters just for a morsel of bread.

I really feel your eternal pains and miseries as you continue to gnash your dirty teeth at the mere whispering of NK, IPOB or Biaf...

No I am not. And I am not a chronic massturbator like you.

Yes, Yorubas dont give a damn about biaafraud ever...And we've no masters unlike the yeasterners begging for VP slot having realised that they can never have the presidency

Go and get a real job rather than relying online schemes.

Shewunoshewa:

No I am not. And I am not a chronic massturbator like you.

Yes, Yorubas dont give a damn about biaafraud ever...And we've no masters unlike the yeasterners begging for VP slot having realised that they can never have the presidency

Go and get a real job rather than relying online schemes.

Sorry, your reasoning is still not far from that of a fagg0t.

If Yorrobbers don't give a damn about Igbos quest for self-determination you miserable ass-lickers won't go about with anti-Biafra slogans and miserably earning a living on a pay-per-post basis, trying in vain to quench the raging IPOB tsunamic movement.

Go find the nearest ab0ki ass and bury your lousy mouth there for another round of ass-licking...

Chest-pounder, read this message from one of your Fulani masters, Alhaji Aliyu Gwarzo:

"...We also captured Ilorin, killed their local King and installed our Fulani Emir. We took that ancient town away from the barbarian Yoruba and their filthy pagan gods. We liberated all these places and all these people by imposing Islam on them by force. It was either the Koran or the sword, and most of them chose the Koran..."

TeamSimple:

Shamelessness is a very soft word to qualify those people suffering from mental epilepsy.

Today they want to leave nigeria,tomoro they want to align with the northerners. The same northerners they so much hate,the same apc they so much detest.
And when the idiots say southwest has been used and dumped,just ask them in which way.

Guy let me tell you igbos are not Yorubas, igbos are most united race in the world following the Jews, they do things with one mind, forget people saying igbos are not united if you must notice majority of igbos speak with one mind in any action just the few who will always opted out like others too its everywhere but you must know that this write up is fake its just to pre-empt the igbos to know their reactions we can't align with the north, they hate igbos, with their Yoruba allies they must finish what they jointly did

all diz talk na rubbish is either true federalism or make everybody dey go their ways

datribune:
1) It was not mandatory dat Azikiwe's NCNC had to form an alliance wit d northern NPC. It was a choice & an alliance of political bed-mates.

2) Why scapegoating Akintola when d two alliances, d NNA & d UPGA were based more on ideology than regionalism as can be seen frm their composition.
a) d NNA comprised of d NPC (North), NDP (SW), the Midwest Democratic Front, the Dynamic Party , d Niger Delta Congress , d Lagos State United Front & d Republican Party.
b) d UPGA consisted of d NCNC (S/E), AG (S/W), d Northern Progressive Front, d Kano People's Party, d Northern Elements Progressive Union, d United Middle Belt Congress & d Zamfara Commoners Party.

4) Ekwueme & Shagari were both of d NPN. I agree dat dis does not translate to Hausa/Igbo ticket. However, after winning d elections d NPN entered into an alliance wit Azikiwe's NPP in d NPN/NPP alliance which resulted in d NPP's Ume-Ezeoke becoming d speaker of d house of Representatives.

5) In 1999 -2003, the yoruba were in opposition as reflected by their unwavering support for d AD which stood as opposition to Obasanjo & his PDP. d yoruba candidate in dat election was Chief Olu Falae. Obasanjo was d PDP/North/S. East candidate. He did not even win his electoral ward in yoruba land. However, in 2003-2007 using his power of incumbency, he was able to make some incursions into yoruba land. Inspite of his incursions, his greatest opposition was frm yoruba land.

Nice to know you left out number 3.

From Nigeria Independence to 1966 the Yorubas maintained alliance with the Caliphate via the Akintola-Ahmadu Bello collaboration. Thereafter in 1967, Awolowo took the Northern partnership further by yoking with Yakubu Gowon through out the civil war.

So from 1967 to 1979, Yorubas were in partnership with the Northern rulers.
Remember, it was during this period - the 1967-70 fratricidal war that Awolowo capitalized on his position as the second-in-command to ensure the starvation of millions of Igbos and Easterners.

And even after the war, the same Awolowo ensured that Easterners were shortchanged of their hard earned monies in banks and building societies. The amassed funds were made available to the Yorubas and their partners to buy up the numerous companies established by the colonial masters, looting the companies and rendering them bankrupt. 

Aside being found continually playing the second fiddle to the Northerners, the Yorubas ruled Nigeria for 12 years starting with Obasanjo. Obasanjo ruled as a military soldier from 1976 - 79 and came back as a civilian and ruled 1999 - 2007.

Ernest Shonekan ruled in the interim government of 1993 and only survived for 83 days before he was displaced by Gen Sani Abacha.

Diademk07:


Gej was and still a buffon! Like we care about SS.. Look here, we aint SE who can't stand alone without shouting SS oil! We have oil in abundance, especially the untapped huge heavy oil in Ondo state, land for agricultural produce and large coastal line, so you can go and die with your alliance! I repeat Jonathan was a fool and still a fool!

Normal Yoruba fake bragging to console himself, guy no Yoruba man can be a better president than Jonathan in the next hundred years, mark my word, you people only keep on bringing Jonathan's name up always at any issue is to make your envy on him is suppressed

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06xtr09r:


You can continue your abominable acts like a whorish dog till you meet your Waterloo sooner than later.

My verdict on your miserable life remains unchanged.

N.B: You tribalists colluding to ban my handles will not deter me from placing you hypocrites in the abysmal pit of nothingness where you duly belong.

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You can bark like a village bingo till eternity, I care less and I stand by my post.

aresssa:





Saying GEJ was corrupt and incompetent and also saying all Nigeria politicians are corrupt are 2 different things.


I said GEJ was kicked out by Nigerians for corruption and incompetence, I never said all Nigerian politicians are not corrupt.


Again, last time I checked, Nigerians from all over the country voted in that election to get rid of Jona so what's Yoruba people got to do with your argument? Were Yoruba people the only electorates in that election? Yes Or No?

No, not all Nigerians voted against GEJ, just check the difference between PMB and GEJ numbers.

Also check compare the 2011 and 2015 voting patterns, you will notice the SW made the difference.

The SE/SS and the North voting patterns didn't change much.

But my greatest anger was that the antiGEJ noise from the SW was the loudest, even till date.


How many Northerners have you seen getting emotional about GEJ corruption issues, yet they always voted against GEJ.

Come 2018 we will start the Anti-Buhari propaganda, the way we trumpeted the GEJ propaganda.

That is why I said we Yorubas take Nigeria issues too serious.