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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:14am On Nov 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
I wasn't going to reply to the junk you posted but i changed my mind because I sincerely believe that you are smarter than this. You called you and your friends that supported Trump well wishers and we that supported Hillary trolls. Does that make any sense to you. Valeriansteel , CFCman and I and few others here that supported Hillary are Good standing American citizens just like your idol Trump. We are as American as he's in every respect. Calling us trolls makes absolutely no sense since we have stakes in the happenings in America by virtue of us being a tax paying, hard working and good citizens. If anyone is a troll, it should be you guys that have absolutely no stakes in America . I wish you guys put the same passion on Nigeria that you did on the past American election. If you guys are that passionate about your homeland, I believe Nigeria will make a U Turn for good. The issue about Electoral votes is something else. Only four people who ever lost elections and winning the popular votes are all Democrats starting with the founder of the Democratic Party, Andrew Jackson and recently Al Gore and Hillary. I like it the way it is now because EV is a way to make the smaller states counts in the scheme of things. I live in one of the biggest states in the country and I sure don't want some small states in the middle of nowhere in US be shut out. That's why EV is here to stay.

Dear Lucas, in as much as i respect you and others here, there are times I begin to wonder if some of you acclaimed Americans are even aware of the country you are living in. If most of you do, you wouldn't be coming to a Nigerian forum with the impudence of telling Nigerians to mind their business where America is involved. That to me, Is the height of ignorance and arrogance.

It is trite that every well informed human being on this planet have a stake in the political runnings of America. This is as a result of the country's socio-political and economic status in the global scheme of things. Political and economic events in the United States has the potentials to virtually impact negatively or positively on the global political and economic order, not just because of its number one economic status, but largely relating to the nature of its Foreign Policy-the tenets, direction and implementation that underlines such Policy. Did some of you take note of how the stocks market globally were rumbling throughout and after the US elections?

The fact that most of you can't even see this, baffles my imagination. Perhaps, this is the prime reason why it's been said in some quarters that a sizable numbers of Americans are greatly misinformed and unaware of the realities in the outside world as it relate to their country. It is a very sad thing to behold, if true.

Just this morning, its on the news that your beloved America has again blocked the Nigerian government from acquiring some arms from Brazil that would have helped in countering Boko Haram, and somebody is telling me to mind my own business? Now, tell me, why shouldn't I believe that some of you guys are dangerously jingoistic and extreme nationalist?

Mind you, I didn't call anyone a troll. Cfcman is the owner of this thread and my views aligned with his regarding the EC system and the need for a change. I don't know about Valeriansteel, and as for yourself, I believe you know the reasons why I have critique and will continue to critique America: so I need not worry about name calling.

A troll is a person enveloped in mendacity, blinded by sentiment and hallucinating in jingoism to the extent that he becomes dangerously incoherent and unable to comprehend logically and reason maturedly. He sees 1 and tells you is I. And that is exactly what some of us down here are known for. Anybody who opines that Hillary (who gloried over the destruction of a country and the death of it's leader) is better than Trump (who said grab them by the pussy,) is a TROLL, and a dangerous one for that matter.

On the EC system, you have a point but the fact remains that the disadvantages by far outweigh the advantage. Any political society that pride itself as a democracy and yet elect it's representatives through the minority, is a complete aberration. The system encourages segregation and entrenched inequality amongst Americans. The worst part of it all is that it discourage thousands of people from voting. Its the reason why America keep experiencing low voters turn out on election days. Why would you want to vote when you know that your vote won't matter at the end due to the availability of swing states with special EC votes and their winner-takes-it all reality? It simply doesn't make sense! Beside, if the system is good,, I don't see why the clamour for change now.

On Nigeria, there is nobody that has criticised this country more than I do on this section. I supported this present regime against the previous one who happened to come from my own region because it was a total failure, with corruption like an open air crusade. But the fact that Nigeria is still corrupt and currently facing economic challenges, doesn't stop me from airing my views on the sidelines of global politics, especially where they have implications for my own country and world peace.


The appraisals and criticisms must continue as a matter of necessity.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Timbuktuo: 11:35am On Nov 14, 2016
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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:38am On Nov 14, 2016
stanech:
And the final numbers are in folks
So, he eventually won both the popular and EC votes?
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by landinfo: 12:00pm On Nov 14, 2016
So so happy with Trump's victory but the problem now is that the "system/forces would stop him from trying & putting Killary in prison"....

Also the protests are not only sponsored but had soon turned violent.....sole losers & the Evangelicals/locals are back to the fore of decision making for their future

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 12:04pm On Nov 14, 2016
Appleyard:


So, he eventually won both the popular and EC votes?


Yes he did
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 12:43pm On Nov 14, 2016
stanech:
And the final numbers are in folks
confirmed! good job bro, The truth is Trump won overwhelmingly and by a landslide. So at d end more people voted for trump dan Hillary, @Valerian, take note. So who are these guys protesting? I see Soros' fingerprints all over this. That man should be jailed real time and his accounts frozen. Just recently a pregnant woman was attacked by these violent protestors, very sad indeed.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 4:17pm On Nov 14, 2016
obixcel:
confirmed! good job bro, The truth is Trump won overwhelmingly and by a landslide. So at d end more people voted for trump dan Hillary, @Valerian, take note. So who are these guys protesting? I see Soros' fingerprints all over this. That man should be jailed real time and his accounts frozen. Just recently a pregnant woman was attacked by these violent protestors, very sad indeed.

Most of them that are in the protest are in because they see others going in. Some are foreigners who are afraid for their future with a Trump presidency. Others are simply in for losing. But now that he has won both the popular and EC votes, I wonder how most of them would be feeling now. When Trump said that the MSM was lying pertaining to polls result, they said he was talking down their democracy. But now that the full elections results are out, it becomes even more clearer that most of the MSM were seriously under control of external forces.

I tell you, this Trump victory and presidency will unravel a lot of bad things.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 5:19pm On Nov 14, 2016
Appleyard:


Most of them that are in the protest are in because they see others going in. Some are foreigners who are afraid for their future with a Trump presidency. Others are simply in for losing. But now that he has won both the popular and EC votes, I wonder how most of them would be feeling now. When Trump said that the MSM was lying pertaining to polls result, they said he was talking down their democracy. But now that the full elections results are out, it becomes even more clearer that most of the MSM were seriously under control of external forces.

I tell you, this Trump victory and presidency will unravel a lot of bad things.
So much has been unraveled. Most of d protestors were lied to by d Msm - d greatest dividers of the country.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 5:19pm On Nov 14, 2016
obixcel:
confirmed! good job bro, The truth is Trump won overwhelmingly and by a landslide. So at d end more people voted for trump dan Hillary, @Valerian, take note. So who are these guys protesting? I see Soros' fingerprints all over this. That man should be jailed real time and his accounts frozen. Just recently a pregnant woman was attacked by these violent protestors, very sad indeed.


They are not protesting they are rioting.

But the truth is it is now clear who the true deplorAbles are

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 5:21pm On Nov 14, 2016
stanech:



They are not protesting they are rioting.

But the truth is it is now clear who the true deplorAbles are
lol, d deplorable rioters
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 8:07pm On Nov 14, 2016
Appleyard:


Most of them that are in the protest are in because they see others going in. Some are foreigners who are afraid for their future with a Trump presidency. Others are simply in for losing. But now that he has won both the popular and EC votes, I wonder how most of them would be feeling now. When Trump said that the MSM was lying pertaining to polls result, they said he was talking down their democracy. But now that the full elections results are out, it becomes even more clearer that most of the MSM were seriously under control of external forces.

I tell you, this Trump victory and presidency will unravel a lot of bad things.
Guys like you always make up your version of events. Tell me where Trump win the popular votes. Whao, you are very surprising with your fake assertion that he won the popular votes. He won the election by electoral votes which is the standard but saying he won popular votes is a big hueey. Google all you want since you guys are kings of Google and proof me wrong.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 9:02pm On Nov 14, 2016
84% of Americans accept Trump as the next president, including 76% of Clinton voters
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 9:26pm On Nov 14, 2016
stanech:
And the final numbers are in folks
This is one of the fake news that propelled Trump to the Presidency.The f*** did you pull this crazy meme that Trump won the popular vote you deplorable.

If you are going to revel in your winning,do so with grace and stop being a condescending p*** of s***

Trump did not win the popular vote,stop the lies.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/us-election-hillary-clinton-more-votes-popular-vote-any-candidate-barack-obama-donald-trump-a7413596.html

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 9:27pm On Nov 14, 2016
Stanech.

Where did you get your bogus numbers? The official tally is not in yet but it looks like HRC will win the popular vote.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 9:30pm On Nov 14, 2016
CFCman:
84% of Americans accept Trump as the next president, including 76% of Clinton voters
I wasn't polled and he's still #NotMyPresident till he proves he's not the Divider in Chief that ran a nasty campaign.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 9:40pm On Nov 14, 2016
A West Virginia Mayor said this.

I still try to wrap my head around how Conservatives especially evangelicals were quick to embrace Melania Trump and normalize her as the next First Lady.

I still try to understand why Michelle Obama was never given the same respect they are giving to her now,why she's had to cope with racist remarks from the right and smeared on nonsensical issues like wearing a sleeveless gown.

Our country is racist,we should call out bigotry when we see it.America is not post racism,we are still a racist country.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 9:40pm On Nov 14, 2016
ValerianSteel:
I wasn't polled and he's still #NotMyPresident till he proves he's not the Divider in Chief that ran a nasty campaign.

Well, we hope he would be a uniter in chief from now till 2021 (I hope a Dem wins in 2020 grin)

Hillary is still leading the popular vote count. Don't know where some peeps got the info that she is behind...

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 9:44pm On Nov 14, 2016
CFCman:


Well, we hope he would be a uniter in chief from now till 2021 (I hope a Dem wins in 2020 grin)

Anyway, Trump is now leading in the popular vote count...
Please post a link cause she's leading him by over 700k.There are still over 4million ballots left to be counted in your state.Hillary is poised to win 3-1,worse 2-1,which would put her at a comfortable 2million votes lead when the final tally is in.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 10:04pm On Nov 14, 2016
Right now we need a Progressive board at the DNC,Keith Ellison has garnered support from Bernie,Liz and Reid.

We need to be careful with going full-blown far leftism in 2020 if Trump's administration does well and appeals to center left Democrats.If he fails,we need a Progressive brand bullish enough to destroy the conservative message his Presidency may have represented.

At the moment,we need a new party leader,Obama is going out soon,Hillary can't be the party leader either,from the Senate Caucus,Bernie or Liz are popular,so maybe one of them or both of them.Then we need a new message,we fell short in branding during the campaign,the right is good at branding,that way they succeeded in erasing President's Obama legacy to rural white working class with message of a savior in Trump.

We need to redefine our coalition and make sure they stay with us,7% of African Americans voting Trumo and 26% Latinos voting Trump should not happen again because by the next election,there's chances that no will explode by 2.

We need to engage young voters in large numbers,young voters sat out this election as always as they aren't reminded enough of what's at stake,they just threw out the window free college and debt free education.If Republicans can drive out older voters,we should double our efforts at keeping the percentage of older voters we have and triple our efforts to get young people involved.

Let's not forget Hillary was a great candidate,so far she's done well than every Presidential candidate in history except President Obama but the party failed overall in getting voters in necessary swing states.Republicans saw that and they hijacked the opportunity.

We have our work cut out,it's going to be a long fight to take back control in all branches of government.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by 21Savagw: 10:20pm On Nov 14, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Right now we need a Progressive board at the DNC,Keith Ellison has garnered support from Bernie,Liz and Reid.

We need to be careful with going full-blown far leftism in 2020 if Trump's administration does well and appeals to center left Democrats.If he fails,we need a Progressive brand bullish enough to destroy the conservative message his Presidency may have represented.

At the moment,we need a new party leader,Obama is going out soon,Hillary can't be the party leader either,from the Senate Caucus,Bernie or Liz are popular,so maybe one of them or both of them.Then we need a new message,we fell short in branding during the campaign,the right is good at branding,that way they succeeded in erasing President's Obama legacy to rural white working class with message of a savior in Trump.

We need to redefine our coalition and make sure they stay with us,7% of African Americans voting Trumo and 26% Latinos voting Trump should not happen again because by the next election,there's chances that no will explode by 2.

We need to engage young voters in large numbers,young voters sat out this election as always as they aren't reminded enough of what's at stake,they just threw out the window free college and debt free education.If Republicans can drive out older voters,we should double our efforts at keeping the percentage of older voters we have and triple our efforts to get young people involved.

Let's not forget Hillary was a great candidate,so far she's done well than every Presidential candidate in history except President Obama but the party failed overall in getting voters in necessary swing states.Republicans saw that and they hijacked the opportunity.

We have our work cut out,it's going to be a long fight to take back control in all branches of government.



Cry me a river.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by 21Savagw: 10:22pm On Nov 14, 2016
ValerianSteel:
A West Virginia Mayor said this.

I still try to wrap my head around how Conservatives especially evangelicals were quick to embrace Melania Trump and normalize her as the next First Lady.

I still try to understand why Michelle Obama was never given the same respect they are giving to her now,why she's had to cope with racist remarks from the right and smeared on nonsensical issues like wearing a sleeveless gown.

Our country is racist,we should call out bigotry when we see it.America is not post racism,we are still a racist country.
LMFAO...I know her kind, quick to cry Rape at an innocent black man and even quicker to ride a Nigga dìck.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 10:38pm On Nov 14, 2016
21Savagw:




Cry me a river.
If you are not directly affected by my post,please refrain from any sassy behavior towards me.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 10:41pm On Nov 14, 2016
Missy89:
Stanech.

Where did you get your bogus numbers? The official tally is not in yet but it looks like HRC will win the popular vote.


Babie, come into my Crazy World. grin cheesy grin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGXBX9MKnxY

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by 21Savagw: 11:10pm On Nov 14, 2016
ValerianSteel:
If you are not directly affected by my post,please refrain from any sassy behavior towards me.
.

Cry me an extra river...2020, I will still vote in republican and we will still be in power.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 1:19am On Nov 15, 2016
Had to make a police report on my stolen backpack embarassed

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:37am On Nov 15, 2016
CFCman:


Well, we hope he would be a uniter in chief from now till 2021 (I hope a Dem wins in 2020 grin)

Hillary is still leading the popular vote count. Don't know where some peeps got the info that she is behind...
Don't you know that we have some delusional guys here still spitting garbage about Trump winning the popular vote. Imagine when all the provisional ballots in California is counted , she will be close to 2 million votes ahead of Trump.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:39am On Nov 15, 2016
21Savagw:
.

Cry me an extra river...2020, I will still vote in republican and we will still be in power.
Good luck to you Trump favorite Africanamerican .

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:40am On Nov 15, 2016
Zoharariel:


Babie, come into my Crazy World. grin cheesy grin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGXBX9MKnxY
Pervert alert. I am worried about all those young teenagers in Ijebu. May God save them from a pervert roaming around the village pretending like a Gentleman.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:44am On Nov 15, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Right now we need a Progressive board at the DNC,Keith Ellison has garnered support from Bernie,Liz and Reid.

We need to be careful with going full-blown far leftism in 2020 if Trump's administration does well and appeals to center left Democrats.If he fails,we need a Progressive brand bullish enough to destroy the conservative message his Presidency may have represented.

At the moment,we need a new party leader,Obama is going out soon,Hillary can't be the party leader either,from the Senate Caucus,Bernie or Liz are popular,so maybe one of them or both of them.Then we need a new message,we fell short in branding during the campaign,the right is good at branding,that way they succeeded in erasing President's Obama legacy to rural white working class with message of a savior in Trump.

We need to redefine our coalition and make sure they stay with us,7% of African Americans voting Trumo and 26% Latinos voting Trump should not happen again because by the next election,there's chances that no will explode by 2.

We need to engage young voters in large numbers,young voters sat out this election as always as they aren't reminded enough of what's at stake,they just threw out the window free college and debt free education.If Republicans can drive out older voters,we should double our efforts at keeping the percentage of older voters we have and triple our efforts to get young people involved.

Let's not forget Hillary was a great candidate,so far she's done well than every Presidential candidate in history except President Obama but the party failed overall in getting voters in necessary swing states.Republicans saw that and they hijacked the opportunity.

We have our work cut out,it's going to be a long fight to take back control in all branches of government.
Buddy, don't worry. We will regroup and come back stronger two years from now. We have seen this before and we came back much stronger. Remind me of Al Gore's stolen mandate in 2000. We progressives will be ok.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by 21Savagw: 2:44am On Nov 15, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Good luck to you Trump favorite Africanamerican .

I am not sure if you have a point, I have always leaned Democratically, I am sick of the Far left Bullshit the Democrats are throwing at me...If they get their shit right and stop endorsing war criminals, I would vote Them without a doubt, Bernie was my man from the get go.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:48am On Nov 15, 2016
21Savagw:


I am not sure if you have a point, I have always leaned Democratically, I am sick of the Far left Bullshit the Democrats are throwing at me...If they get their shit right and stop endorsing war criminals, I would vote Them without a doubt, Bernie was my man from the get go.
We shall see in 2018.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 7:26am On Nov 15, 2016
ValerianSteel:
I wasn't polled and he's still #NotMyPresident till he proves he's not the Divider in Chief that ran a nasty campaign.
Trump won, get over it. Your DNC, in collusion with d media, ran a campaign trying to demonize Trump, In all honesty Bernie Sanders would have done better Dan ur Crooked Hillary. Where was Hillary d night she lost? At d darkest hour when u guys needed her she turned her back and ran away, too emotional in d face of defeat to even face her heart broken supporters. She only saw u guys as "votes" nothing more. I really laughed my head out.

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