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| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by basilo102: 2:13pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
wristbangle:you are getting it all wrong by using university ranking. you should talk about achievement of people from the different states irrespective of which university they are. FG can pump money to any university they deem fit irrespective of the academic performance of that region |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by striker9(m): 2:22pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
I personally know two girls studying medicine in UI all the way from Imo,everything on nairaland is now competition.... God help us I hope |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by omofunaab(m): 2:25pm On Nov 19, 2016*. Modified: 2:52pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
wristbangle:Brother mesef tire oooo. The real deal is not wassce, many have passed wassce without gaining admission into any tertiary institution. While some will gain admission but won't be able to cope in the higher institution. So leave them let them celebrate primary school and secondary school achievements. Olabisi onabanjo university in ogun state is currently the best State University in Nigeria. Their students are the best in law schools. A Yoruba holds the record of the highest graduating CGPA. South west universities are top ranked. Even none of their polytechnics can be compared to yabatech. Just leave them, let them enjoy wassce results. During my days in secondary school. Abeokuta grammar school, Baptist boys high school, African church grammar school, Mayflower ikenne, iganmode grammar school Ota, abeokuta girls grammar school were all fighting over the overall best student in west Africa not even in Nigeria oooo. And all these schools have produced overall best student each.. Abeograms have produced more than five times, BBHS more than four times. Afrograms produced once so also AGGS and others. My brother leave them make them enjoy.. Na their time Atleast one of them told you they have caught up with us, that means they have already agreed south west were better.. .so let them Continue to play catch up |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Philistine(m): 2:29pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
old news! this is 2015 result. |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Philistine(m): 2:32pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
[quote author= post=51169188]Who take NECO serious, Ekiti scored first position in NECO 2016 then scored 11th position in WAEC Only God know the deal Fayose struck for the positionSoutheast has been leading in Education since 1996 [b]From 1996 when the late military dictator, Sani Abacha, created 36 states out of Nigeria, the three states that have been producing the highest number of applicants in the examination organised by the Joint Admissions and Matriculation Board have been Imo, Anambra and Delta. The Guardian of August 26, 1999, page 31, had some statistics about the 1999 UTME examination. It showed that the six states with the highest number of applications were: Imo (44,274), Delta (36,375), Anambra (34,206), Ogun (33,375), Edo (29,057), and Osun (22,950). Conversely, the states that produced the least number of candidates were all Northern states: Borno (1,572), Katsina (1,054), Taraba (882), Sokoto (782), Kebbi (794), and Yobe (535). The Registrar of JAMB then, Prof. Bello Ahmad Salim, lamented the poor showing of the Northern states, noting that the 65,000 applications from the 19 states of the North were just 20,726 higher than the number of applications from only Imo State. If Imo and Delta states’ applications were combined, that would amount to 80,649 applications: over 15,000 higher than the applications from the 19 states of the North. In 2007, The Guardian newspaper of June 1, page 3, published the results of the 2007 University Matriculation Examination. The top six states with the highest number of candidates were Imo (93,065), Anambra (64,689), Delta (61,580), Edo (57,754), Akwa Ibom (47,928), and Ogun (47,227). The last six were: Kebbi (4,682), Sokoto (3,925), Taraba (3,832), Zamfara (2,904), Jigawa (2,541), and Yobe (2,516). For the 2012 results released by JAMB and published by Vanguard of March 31, the top five states were: Imo (123,865), Delta (88,876), Anambra (84,204), Osun (73,935), Oyo (71,272). The least five states were: Jigawa (11,529), Kebbi (7,364), Yobe (6,389), Zamfara (5,713), and Sokoto (5,664).[/b][/quote]stop posting rubbish on this forum. the waec result is that of 2015 |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Philistine(m): 2:33pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
wristbangle:the result the op posted is for 2015. |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Philistine(m): 2:37pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
[quote author= post=51165897]Education: Why South-West and North should be worried Last week, the 2015 West African Senior School Certificate of Education result was released. The Punch chose to publish the story with an attention-grabbing headline: “Again, South-East leads in the WASSCE performance chart.” The report showed that Abia State dethroned Anambra. The states were ranked according to the percentage that had a minimum of five credits, including in English Language and Mathematics. But the surprise in the report was that almost like in 2014, no South-West state except Lagos was on the top 10 of the chart. The top 10 states were the five South-East states, four South-South states and Lagos: 1st – Abia (63.94 per cent), 2nd – Anambra (61.18 per cent), 3rd – Edo, 4th – Rivers, 5th – Imo, 6th – Lagos, 7th – Bayelsa, 8th – Delta, 9th – Enugu, and 10th – Ebonyi. Ekiti was 11th; Ondo was 13th; Ogun was 19th; Oyo was 26th; while Osun was 29th. In 2014, the top 10 states were similar: Anambra (65.92 per cent), Abia (58.52 per cent), Edo (57.82 per cent), Bayelsa (52.83 per cent), Rivers (52.78 per cent), Enugu (51.91 per cent), Lagos (45.66 per cent), Imo (40.64 per cent), Delta (40.12 per cent), Kaduna (36.12 per cent). Ebonyi was 11th with 36.05 per cent. For 2014, the states with the least performance were Northern states: They were Yobe (36th), Zamfara (35th), Jigawa (34th), Gombe (33rd), Katsina (32nd), Kebbi (31st) Bauchi (30th), and Sokoto (29th). In 2013, the result was similar: 28th – Katsina (10.45 per cent), 29th – Adamawa (8.75 per cent), 30th – Jigawa (7.47 per cent), 31st – Sokoto (7.12 per cent), 32nd – Zamfara (6.65 per cent), 33rd – Kebbi (6.30 per cent), 34th – Gombe (5.68 per cent), 35th – Bauchi (5.28 per cent), and 36th – Yobe (4.85 per cent). Someone from the South-East or South-South could see it as a reason for chest-thumping, but for me, it portends grave danger. Why do I say so? I will explain shortly. Those who had not been following the trend in education could dismiss this as a flash in the pan. But it is not so. I have followed the trend since the late 1980s. From 1996 when the late military dictator, Sani Abacha, created 36 states out of Nigeria, the three states that have been producing the highest number of applicants in the examination organised by the Joint Admissions and Matriculation Board have been Imo, Anambra and Delta. The Guardian of August 26, 1999, page 31, had some statistics about the 1999 UTME examination. It showed that the six states with the highest number of applications were: Imo (44,274), Delta (36,375), Anambra (34,206), Ogun (33,375), Edo (29,057), and Osun (22,950). Conversely, the states that produced the least number of candidates were all Northern states: Borno (1,572), Katsina (1,054), Taraba (882), Sokoto (782), Kebbi (794), and Yobe (535). The Registrar of JAMB then, Prof. Bello Ahmad Salim, lamented the poor showing of the Northern states, noting that the 65,000 applications from the 19 states of the North were just 20,726 higher than the number of applications from only Imo State. If Imo and Delta states’ applications were combined, that would amount to 80,649 applications: over 15,000 higher than the applications from the 19 states of the North. In 2007, The Guardian newspaper of June 1, page 3, published the results of the 2007 University Matriculation Examination. The top six states with the highest number of candidates were Imo (93,065), Anambra (64,689), Delta (61,580), Edo (57,754), Akwa Ibom (47,928), and Ogun (47,227). The last six were: Kebbi (4,682), Sokoto (3,925), Taraba (3,832), Zamfara (2,904), Jigawa (2,541), and Yobe (2,516). For the 2012 results released by JAMB and published by Vanguard of March 31, the top five states were: Imo (123,865), Delta (88,876), Anambra (84,204), Osun (73,935), Oyo (71,272). The least five states were: Jigawa (11,529), Kebbi (7,364), Yobe (6,389), Zamfara (5,713), and Sokoto (5,664). In the Unity School admission of 2013, the states that got the highest cut-off marks were: Anambra – Male (139) Female (139) Imo – Male (138) Female (138) Enugu – Male (134) Female (134) Lagos – Male (133) Female (133) Delta – Male (131) Female (131) Ogun – Male(131) Female(131) Abia – Male (130) Female (130). The states that got the lowest cut-off scores were: Zamfara – Male (four) Female (two); Yobe – Male (two) Female (27); Taraba – Male (three) Female (11); Sokoto – Male (nine) Female (13); Kebbi – Male (nine) Female (20); Bauchi – Male (35) Female (35). So, for those from the South-West and North who may give the excuse of the South-East and South-South states getting these results by the help of “special centres,” it is a case of trying to hide behind a finger. Instructively, the South-West, which was the first to receive Western education, and was ahead in education, has lost its place in education in Nigeria. Something is killing the interest of the South-West children in education. The six South-West states need to see this as an emergency that transcends party affiliation. This scenario is a source of danger because the South-East and South-West have been counter forces to each other. Whatever feat the South-West produces, the South-East counters it, and vice versa. We can see it in the literary feats of Chinua Achebe and Wole Soyinka, the football feats of Shooting Stars and Rangers, the political feats of Nnamdi Azikiwe and Obafemi Awolowo, the academic feats of University of Nigeria, Nsukka and University of Ife, Ile-Ife (now Obafemi Awolowo University), and so on. This healthy rivalry enhances stability, peace and growth in the nation. But if this downward trend continues, in future, that balancing of forces between the South-West and the South-East will no longer exist. And given that the indigenes of the South-East and the South-South dwell in large numbers in the South-West, a time will come when the South-West could feel angry that the indigenes of the South-East and South-South are taking over positions that the South-West indigenes should occupy in the South-West. This may cause problems as witnessed in the xenophobic attacks in South Africa last year. So, it is in the interest of all that the South-West stage a come-back in education. The case of the North is scarier. Many commentators keep quiet about this worrisome issue because of political correctness, but only someone who loves you can tell you that you have mouth odour. It is dangerous that there are 10 million youths in the North with no formal education. http://punchng.com/education-why-south-west-and-north-should-be-worried/[/quote]u are a double faced hypocrite,u posted only the jamb results of 1999,2007 and 2012 where igbos are leading,what happened to the remaining years! |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Anambra1stSon(op): 2:42pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Philistine: we are leading since 1996 ![]()
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| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Anambra1stSon(op): 2:46pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Philistine:Why not show us were you region lead between 1996-2016 |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Philistine(m): 2:47pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
[quote author= post=51173639] we are leading since 1996 [/quote]U Mean u are leading in exam malpractice.aka miracle centres |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Philistine(m): 2:49pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
[quote author= post=51173724]Why not show us were you region lead between 1996-2016[/quote]show us d full report from 1996 to 2016. stop playing on our intelligence.u selected only the years igbos were dominant.u are not smart enough! |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Anambra1stSon(op): 2:50pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Philistine:Southwest is second position on exam malpractice ![]()
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| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by wristbangle: 2:53pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
omofunaab:Chai, U are blessed bros and indeed you are very knowledgeable about history and current tide in Education. That school, Abeokuta Grammar School na real terror for secondary school education and their achievements still speak till now. AFRO, BBHS, iganmode, ,mehn u mention school bro. For JET competition then, na these schools along side one school for suleja, kings colleague, yaba secondary sch, dey always win am. |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Thayvid(m): 2:56pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
If you know the kind of malpractice going on in the east ehn!! I served in Anambra state. In a school where all you need to pass is to pay the school levy(which is a meagre sum by the way). You can decide not to come to school till the next term self. Of course there are bright lads over there, but I'm certain those figures exaggerates the level of education in the east. I mean, the head boy of the school I was serving in couldn't even speak proper English yet made all As in his WAEC. |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Anambra1stSon(op): 2:56pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Philistine: The report was published by PUNCH NEWSPAPER not me, why not do your research to prove them wrong you are here ranting like person weh swallow goat egg ![]() |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by basilo102: 2:57pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
omofunaab:we are talking about people's achievement. continue limiting yourself to your brown roof region. continue your mago mago nigerian ranking by amala infested agencies, UNN toped 2016 webometric tranparent ranking Webometrics has recently released the openness ranking of World universities for the second half of 2016, within which less than 50 Nigerian universities were included; With Harvard University (USA) coming first in the world as usual. Openness refers to the total number of pdf files of a university according to google. It relies on information (statistics) of web publications of a University for a Specific period of time; available on google scholar. It therefore based on volume of research articles published by a university. The quantity of google scholarly articles a university has reveals how much of research is being conducted by the university; which is what openness ranking is all about – a university’s research output. Openness rank is a part of the many indicators that make up several university rankings, others being excellence, presence and visibility; for Webometrics. Although it does not exactly specify the impact of the research papers a university has; the openness indicator however reveals the extent to which a school is engaged in research, which is what world class institutions are known for. Although no Nigerian university was among the first 1000 in the world, University of Nigeria ranked highest of the Nigerian universities on the list, followed by University of Ibadan, University of Ilorin and Covenant University respectively. Below is the list of the top 30 Nigerian universities in the Webometrics 2016 Openness ranking for world universities. Their respective world ranks are those enclosed within brackets. The July 2016 edition of the Webometrics ranking of world universities (overall ranking of all parameters); of which openness rank constitute 10% by weight of is expected to be released next week. 1. University of Nigeria, Nsukka. UNN (1433) 2. University of Ibadan, Ibadan. UI (1613) 3. University of Ilorin, Ilorin. UNILORIN (2114) 4. Covenant University, Ota. CU (2161) 5. Nnamdi Azikiwe University, Awka. UNIZIK (2173) 6. University of Port Harcourt, Port Harcourt. UNIPORT (2190) 7. University of Lagos, Lagos. UNILAG (2243) 8. University of Calabar, Calabar. UNICAL (2333) 9. University of Agriculture, Abeokuta. UNAAB (2364) 10. Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria. ABU (2372) 11. Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife. OAU (2473) 12. Ladoke Akintola University of Technology, Ogbomoso. LAUTECH (2585) 13. University of Uyo, Uyo. UNIUYO (2655) 14. Federal University of Technology, Minna. FUTMINNA (2682) 15. University of Benin, Ugbowo. UNIBEN (2703) 16. Federal University of Technology, Akure. FUTA (2835) 17. Bayero University, Kano. BUK (2909) 18. Redeemer’s University, Mowe. RUN (2937) 19. Lagos State University, Ojo. LASU (2939) 20. Osun State University, OSU (3074) 21. University of Jos, Jos. UNIJOS (3173) 22. Federal University, Ndufu-Alike Ikwo. FUNAI (3242) 23. Rivers State University of Science & Technology, Port Harcourt. RSUT (3295) 24. Afe Babalola University, Ado-Ekiti. ABUAD (3330) 25. Landmark University, Omu-aran LU (3422) 26. Federal University of Technology, Owerri. FUTO (3423) 27. Enugu State University of Technology, Enugu. ESUT (3433) 28. University of Maiduguri, Maiduguri. UNIMAID (3465) 29. Federal University of Dutsin Ma, Dutsin-Ma (3478) 30. Michael Okpara University of Agriculture, Umudike. MOUA (3515). Source: http://www.webometrics.info/en/node/169 Teen gets accepted by all eight Ivy League schools By Gabrielle Sorto, Special to CNN Watch this video here http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/05/us/ivy-league-student-2016-irpt/index.html Story highlights This is the second year an Elmont Memorial High School student has been accepted to all eight Ivy League schools. Augusta Uwamanzu-Nna plans to pursue a science-related major. (CNN) — There must be something in the water at Elmont Memorial High School. For the second year in a row, an Elmont Memorial High School student has been accepted to all eight Ivy League schools. Last year, the Long Island high school's salutatorian Harold Ekeh chose to attend Yale University after having his pick of all eight Ivy League schools. This year, Augusta Uwamanzu-Nna, Elmont's valedictorian, will face the same decision. "Having two students get accepted into all eight Ivy League institutions in back-to-back years is humbling but also speaks to the incredible commitment to children by the families and staff within the EMHS Community," said Kevin Dougherty, Elmont Memorial High School principal. Teen accepted by all 8 Ivy League schools chooses Yale Uwamanzu-Nna was also accepted to the four additional schools to which she applied. The experience has been surreal, Uwamanzu-Nna said in a press release. "My recent accomplishments reflect the hardworking ideals of the town of Elmont, my supportive parents and my dedicated teachers. I am elated, but most importantly, I am thankful," she said. Ekeh and Uwamanzu-Nna are both Nigerian. Ekeh was born in Nigeria and came to the United States when he was 8. Uwamanzu-Nna is the daughter of Nigerian immigrants. "Though I was born here in America, I visited Nigeria many times," Uwamanzu-Nna told CNN affiliate WABC. "And I've seen that my cousins don't have the same opportunities that I have. So definitely, whatever I do, I want to make sure that it has an impact on Nigeria." Uwamanzu-Nna plans to pursue a science-related major. She was a finalist in the 2016 Intel Science Talent Search for her research on cement that could help prevent underwater oil rigs from rupturing. On Monday, she received an invitation to the White House Science Fair. She is hoping to attend a school where she is able to combine her varied scientific interests, which include biochemistry and environmental studies, she said in the press release. There are no secrets to academic success, she said. Her 101.64 weighted GPA was earned through hard work. "I've struggled with numerous classes in the past," Uwamanzu-Nna told WABC. "But I guess what allowed me to be successful ... is my persistence and my tenacity." Uwamanzu-Nna hasn't made a final decision on what school she will attend, but with acceptance to 12 schools, she has a tough decision to make. http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/05/us/ivy-league-student-2016-irpt/index.html High school senior Harold Ekeh didn't just get into one Ivy League university. He was accepted into all eight. Now comes the really hard part: Deciding where to go. He actually got into all 13 schools he applied to, including MIT and Johns Hopkins. Ekeh was born in Nigeria and came to the United States when he was eight. He wrote his main college essay about the struggle to adjust, including being clueless in U.S. history classes at school. He said he would ask his parents repeatedly why they moved. "We had a fairly comfortable life in Nigeria, but they told me we moved to America for the opportunities like the educational opportunities," he recalled. He wants to major in neurobiology or chemistry in college and later become doctor and, ultimately, a neurosurgeon. He was named a 2015 Intel Science Talent Search semifinalist earlier this year for his research on how the acid DHA can slow Alzheimer's. For Ekeh, the cause is personal. His grandmother was diagnosed with Alzheimer's when he was 11. One of his proudest moments was running home to tell his mother and aunts about the breakthroughs he was finding with DHA. Outside of the lab, Ekeh directs a youth choir at his church, plays the drums, is part of Key Club and Model UN and was elected to the Homecoming court. He speaks Igbo and Spanish and has a 100.5% GPA. http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/04/pf/college/immigrant-accepted-all-ivy-league-schools-harold-ekeh/ On March 31 2016, Chioma Onuoha learned she got admission into not one but THREE Ivy League schools-Harvard University, University of Pennysylvania and Princeton University. It is a great feat because Ivy League schools are hard to get into. Sharing the wonderful news on twitter along with her admission letters, Ms Onuoha wrote: "I 'm in complete shock #Harvard20 #UPenn20 #Princeton" She has been receiving congratulatory messages from friends, family and twitter users. Congrats Chioma!!! http://www.newshelm.com/2016/04/photos-young-nigerian-chioma-onuoha.html US studies show igbos to be the most brilliant african ethnic group, check the pics all the advantage yorubas took because of the war is now over, they are hoping on Buhari administration to help prop them up again but it aint happening
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| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Anambra1stSon(op): 3:02pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Thayvid:Really but they still ranked low in malpratice table
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| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by basilo102: 3:06pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Thayvid:Wetin concern english speaking and intelligence?? |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by omofunaab(m): 3:33pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
basilo102:Chai, too long mehn.. Unfortunately no time to respond to all these fabricated stats Okay, we don hear, UNN is better than UI and OAU. shey be that's what you want to hear abi |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by ccffwx: 3:35pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
You can accept whatever ranking but no state is as good as Lagos State educationally. |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by basilo102: 3:52pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
omofunaab:fabricated ke?? the websites are included for verification. stop thinking you own UI and OAU while igbos own UNN, you are limiting yourself. we all own the world equally. people like ogbonnaya onu and willie obiano are UNILAg first class, Okezie Ikpazu is University Of maiduguri PHD holder |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 3:54pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
wristbangle:Even 2016,igbos have it in the waec. Unless you are talking about Ekiti neco. Una Fit take neco sha |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 3:56pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
wristbangle:Pendulum swings to the west. The only region in the south that doesn't conduct class positions termly. Each year, students in SW public schools move to the next class spontaneously |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by basilo102: 3:59pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
InyinyaAgbaOku:bros i noticed this while serving in Ekiti. people don't fail. i was surprised |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 4:01pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
[quote author= post=51171266]it's hard for you to comprehend Southeast produce highest numbers of undergraduates, large number of them are admitted in Nigeria high institutions not just in the east, when states like Imo produced (93,065), Anambra (64,689), Delta (61,580), Edo (57,754), Akwa Ibom (47,928), that performed HIGHER in JAMB than their counterpart in north and west large number of them are favored in federal institutions in west and North, unlike West and North in eastern institutions, Top universities has never been used to measure regional performance in education, no credible board that supervise universities rating in Nigeria[/quote]Imo has the highest number of professors in Nigeria. It means that as they write jamb in large numbers, they also graduate in large numbers |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 4:03pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
omofunaab:Unn produced the guy that won the highest American award in medicine recently. So much for a substandard university, in your terms |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by pazienza(m): 4:54pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
This thread is just "sweeting" me. ![]() Chai! O ka ife nlacha si ato? OP I dey hail o! ![]() |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by basilo102: 5:10pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
InyinyaAgbaOku:Arunma Oteh, world bank VP is a UNN alumni. ranking or no ranking an intelligent person is intelligent, even though their nigeria ranking reeks of amala and ewedu |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Nobody: 5:15pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
wristbangle:UNIVERSITY OF NIGERIA FEDERAL UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY OWERRI UNI ZIK UNIVERSITY OF CALABAR University of Agriculture Umudike UNIVERSITY OF PORT HARCOURT Most of the Universities in the West are living on past glories |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Nobody: 5:16pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
InyinyaAgbaOku:Exactly... Most Igbos in Uniosun are from Imo and Anambra state. |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Noneroone(m): 7:27pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Mrokaykay:pls who conducted the ranking? |
| Re: Why South-west And North Should Be Worried by Thayvid(m): 3:49pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
basilo102:Really So, there's no correlation between speaking good English and academic intelligence? I rest my case. |
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you are here ranting like person weh swallow goat egg