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naijadeyhia:
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And Hitler did his for the sake of Christianity right? I can feel your pain.

its usually christians who try to throw the first punch with hitler...

KingEbukasBlog:
I am saying that you are subscribing to a highly irrational belief which is atheism . It exasperatingly denies the existence of the creator even with the overwhelming evidence for all to see .

stop pointing him in a deistic direction...
You're not a deist...give him overwhelming evidence for your own version as the creator..

naijadeyhia:
Do you want me to post for Denmark?

how many times will they explain this thing to you guys sef?? Church of a country does not represent their theological beliefs...haba

naijadeyhia:
****COPIED***

Deism: A religion whose followers
believe in a God who created the
universe, established its rules of
behavior, set it going, left, and
hasn't been seen since


The word "Deism" is derived from the Latin word for God: "Deus."

Deism is a natural religion. Deists believe in the existence of God, on purely rational grounds, without any reliance on revealed religion, religious authority, or holy text. Because of this, Deism is quite different from religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The latter are largely based on revelations that Jews, Christians and Muslims believe mostly came from God to prophet(s) who then taught it to humans.

We like to call natural religions by the title "bottom-up" faiths because they were created by humans about God; we refer to revealed religions as "top-down" because their followers believe that they were created by God and delivered to humans.

One faith that is opposite of Deism is Atheism, which is the lack of a belief in the existence of a god or gods. Another seen in the beliefs of most Theists who conceive of God as a deity who is all-present, all-powerful, all-loving, all-knowing and has a personal interest in every human on Earth.

Deists:

Do not accept the belief of most religions that God revealed himself to humanity through the writings of the Hebrew Scriptures (a.k.a. Old Testament), and/or the Christian Scriptures (a.k.a. New Testament), and/or the Qur'an, and/or other religious text.

Disagree with strong Atheists who assert that there is no evidence of the existence of God.
Many Deists reason that everything that exists has had a creator -- from a wristwatch, to a television set, to the Internet itself. Thus it is logical that the universe itself must have been created by God:


Thomas Paine concluded a speech shortly after the French Revolution with:

"God is the power of first cause, nature is the law, and matter is the subject acted upon."[/b]

[b]There are Deists on Nairaland and they affirm to my post. YOU ARE BEING DISHONEST

this is one of the most lame things ive ever seen you write on NL..
Deism a religion?
Baba ehn

raphieMontella:
they know...
But distorting reality just to support their religious delusion is usually their number one priority...

arguing with these people ehn
So much dishonesty

raphieMontella:
this is one of the most lame things ive ever seen you write on NL..
Deism a religion?
Baba ehn

chaiiii!

GrizzlyBear:
Hitler killed them because he perceived them as an inferior race. His anti-semitism was racially motivated.

And Hitler didn't only kill jews. He also killed Romanis, homosexuals, blacks, gypsies and people he considered weak.

No it seems his anti-jewish lifestyle was motivated by religion...christianity to be precise..
And Most significantly,Mainline protestant;Martin luther

---

The deaconesses entered the chamber
and were astonished to see the pictures
of Frederick the Great, Luther and
Bismarck on the wall. Then Hitler said: Those are the three greatest men that
God has given the German people. From
Fredrick the Great I have learned bravery,
and from Bismarck statecraft. The
greatest of the three is Dr. Martin Luther,
for he made it possible to bring unity among the German tribes by giving them
a common language through his
translation of the Bible into German ....
[Note that Hitler's own words about his
admiration for Martin Luther are
expressed in Mein Kampf.]

One sister could not refrain from saying:
Herr Reichkanzler, from where do you
get the courage to undertake the great
changes in the whole Reich? There upon Hitler took out of his pocket
the New Testament of Dr. Martin Luther,
which one could see had been used very
much, and said earnestly:"From God's word." ---------source:[Helmreich, p. 139]

Here...martin luther's staunch anti-jewish nature...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism
even a baby can connect the dots

Bandeco:
I am sorry.. You don't know what you are writing about. Been reading you comments, you always misrepresent facts just to support your religious belief.

I live in Sweden and I can tell you the swedes - Scandinavians could careless about your god.

its his second nature...

naijadeyhia:
I asked you to go and research on these guys and you are still here posting. If you would take out time to research you would discover that one of the ways you can survive in the german army was to denounce religion. All religious people were registered and taxed heavily so as to kill them off but when that did not work he declared that all gatherings by religious people were an affront to the state as he "Hitler" was the sole authority so if you insisted on remaining openly religious you would be killed. He knew the Jews would not accept this as they are a proud people...need i say more why he targeted the Jews?

I suggest you read up and stop posting ignorantly.

what sort of lies are the bolded?

Religion is Real freedom to live.

naijadeyhia:
You and Jonbellion only have one word to describe you guys....CONFUSED!

He says yes to God but not to the Religious kind and you say NO to any and both of you are what?

if they are confused...
What will you then call a religion that has 33,000 denominations?

raphieMontella:
if they are confused...
What will you then call a religion that has 33,000 denominations?

You can be intelligent when you want to be and right now I am simply reading and ignoring your comments because its obvious you have nothing to say besides attacking the OP with low blows in order to distract.

I wish it would get to 55000 denominations because the gospel must be preached by all means and if the knowledge of the glory of the Lord would cover the earth as the waters cover the sea I pray it becomes than 33000

naijadeyhia:
Facts do not lie My Brother. North Korea is a "Model" Atheist state. Lol

North Korea is a place any one with choice wouldn't want to live in. Your freedom is clamped by the spirit of atheism.

Hitler too was an atheist!

shadeyinka:
North Korea is a place any one with choice wouldn't want to live in. Your freedom is clamped by the spirit of atheism.

Hitler too was an atheist

kai!

raphieMontella:
they know...
But distorting reality just to support their religious delusion is usually their number one priority...

North Korea is officially an atheist state , the government uses juche as a tool to the control the masses . How is this abstruse ?

shadeyinka:
North Korea is a place any one with choice wouldn't want to live in. Your freedom is clamped by the spirit of atheism.

Hitler too was an atheist!

Hi bro, longest time, where did you run to?

and by the way, hitler was not an atheist, he was a catholic who believed the jews were to be blamed for the death of Christ and hence the holocaust.

Even if he was(which he wasnt), he didnt do the terrible things he did in the name of atheism, he did them in the name of one form of religion or the other.

The theists' arguments in this thread are embarassing. Anyone even remotely educated on world history & demographics would know they are telling bold-faced lies.

GrizzlyBear:
Well, always post your sources.
http://biblehub.com/sermons/auth/martin/natural_religion_its_strength_and_weakness.htm

And it's quite funny that you are referring to me as close minded, while you claim to be wearing the garment of open mindedness.

I am close minded, but I decided to painstakingly read the history and origin of your religion, something you haven't done before, and I compared it's history with the history of other religions and belief systems. I am close minded, but I decided to put aside the religious beliefs I was indoctrinated into, and critically examine it's contents. I am close minded but I am always open to ideas that conflict with the ones I hold dear, and I am open to discussing honestly about these ideas, and open to changing my mind if I am persuaded by reason and evidence.

But you claim to be open minded, yet you view your world through the lens of a 4000 year old book, and you zealously oppose any idea that contradicts it's claims. You claim to be open minded but you openly asked every NL Christian to stop replying to my threads or clicking on them. You claim to be open minded but you always evade examining the patent flaws of your religion by making ad-hominem attacks.

You claim to be open minded, but instead of you to try to examine your precious indoctrinated beliefs using your own independent intuitions, you scour the web looking for old articles that support your views, so that you can plagiarize them.

Nailed it.

jonbellion:
Religion divides more than it unites
It's because of religion this argument is being put up
And a lot if disposable acts throughout history was approved by religion
Was it atheists they ordered the Salem witch trials
Or Diests or pantheists
Nope
Slavery was justified by religion, women's rights where suppressed. After all isn't it a disgrace for a woman to speak in church according to Paul.
I think religous people are just sad cuz they aren't allowed to have thier way as much as before
The society has started to have sense

Spot on.

Lennycool:
It is better to give no answer at all than to formulate utter rubbish. That is what religion does. It is simply the philosophy of ordinary men, their conjectures are supported without any evidence and relies only on faith, which is completely flawed.
It's an example of GIGO(garbage in garbage out)

Yep.

Sometimes I wish time machines could exist, so we in the 21st century, with all our scientific knowledge and social progress, could go back to the dusty desert communities and watch the 1st century humans who wrote these religious texts coming up with this stuff, in all their ignorance. If we showed them modern medicine & technology, they'd think WE were gods.

And yet, their ignorant hypotheses, thousands of years later, have been able to control the minds of so many simply through the power of fear, conquest, & and generational indoctrination.

Thankfully, like others have said, religion can't survive for long. Not as long as education & reason continue to prove their efficacy and superstitious ideas continue to prove more and more ridiculous.

KingEbukasBlog:
Science says the universe has a cause and a beginning and you don't see it as an acceptance of a transcendent immaterial realm .

Half-education is worse than lack of education. Our universe had a beginning doesn't mean it has a transcendental immaterial cause.

donnffd:
Hi bro, longest time, where did you run to?

and by the way, hitler was not an atheist, he was a catholic who believed the jews were to be blamed for the death of Christ and hence the holocaust.

Even if he was(which he wasnt), he didnt do the terrible things he did in the name of atheism, he did them in the name of one form of religion or the other.

Brother

lanre316:
Half-education is worse than lack of education. Our universe had a beginning doesn't mean it has a transcendental immaterial cause.

thank you!!!
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ichommy:
Brother

Ichommy, see my fam, where have you been bro?

donnffd:
Ichommy, see my fam, where have you been bro?

Nah Hustling carry me commot NL. I don come back sha. How are U doing Sir?

donnffd:
Hi bro, longest time, where did you run to?

and by the way, hitler was not an atheist, he was a catholic who believed the jews were to be blamed for the death of Christ and hence the holocaust.

Even if he was(which he wasnt), he didnt do the terrible things he did in the name of atheism, he did them in the name of one form of religion or the other.

Hello my Friend,
Long time indeed. I decided to use my time more for helping others on NL rather than the endless debates. Occasionally, I chip in a word or two but I know that nothing in this world apart from Gods grace can change an Atheist.

I know that Adolf Hitler was born and raised a catholic but towards the last decade of his life, he was more of a mixture of an occultist + atheist. His goal was the build up of the Arian rase. Jews were a group of pests unfortunately who control a chunk of the economy.

I have actually met some atheists who believe in the occult (weird isn't it?). I am not sure there was anything religious about Hitler.

I could be wrong however: I hope someone can furnish the date of the last time Hitler went for a mass or had a confessing with a priest. The selective genocide had nothing to do with Catholicism: don't forget that others in line were the soviet block and Africans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

One day, I might throw a piece in for Atheists and Agnostics to ponder about.

Shalom

ichommy:
Nah Hustling carry me commot NL. I don come back sha. How are U doing Sir?

I am great bro, We are in the Change o!

lanre316:
Half-education is worse than lack of education. Our universe had a beginning doesn't mean it has a transcendental immaterial cause.

What else does it mean ?

shadeyinka:
Hello my Friend,
Long time indeed. I decided to use my time more for helping others on NL rather than the endless debates. Occasionally, I chip in a word or two but I know that nothing in this world apart from Gods grace can change an Atheist.

I know that Adolf Hitler was born and raised a catholic but towards the last decade of his life, he was more of a mixture of an occultist + atheist. His goal was the build up of the Arian rase. Jews were a group of pests unfortunately who control a chunk of the economy.

I have actually met some atheists who believe in the occult (weird isn't it?). I am not sure there was anything religious about Hitler.

I could be wrong however: I hope someone can furnish the date of the last time Hitler went for a mass or had a confessing with a priest. The selective genocide had nothing to do with Catholicism: don't forget that others in line were the soviet block and Africans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

One day, I might throw a piece in for Atheists and Agnostics to ponder about.

Shalom

Yea, the tantrums are just so much, i hardly participate also, just once in a while...

As for Hitler's beliefs, we cant be sure what he believed or what he did not, but one thing is certain, he used religion(and when i mean religion, i mean organised belief which also includes Nazism, Fascism and so on) to push his agendas. Even if you remove Hitler from the circle, his foot soldiers who were the ones carrying out his orders were either Catholics or Protestants and they did those things anyways because they believed so strongly that they were right, that is the effect religion has on the human mind, and Hitler used it to his advantage.

ichommy:
Nah Hustling carry me commot NL. I don come back sha. How are U doing Sir?

Welcome back sir from the land of the hustlers!

tr3y:
Welcome back sir from the land of the hustlers!

Brother, How u dey?

Succint