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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by sukkottt: 6:51pm On Nov 20, 2016
linearity:


You are putting the cart before the horse, The Portuguese first made contact with Lagos in 1472, through the Atlantic Ocean exploration. Oba Kosoko did not start his reign until 1845. I believe you would have noticed the similarity between the name 'Lagos, Nigeria' and 'Lagos, Portugal', another port city in Portugal. Lagos means lake in Portuguese and the Portuguese first named 'Lago de Curamo'.

Also, he did not fly slaves to America or Europe, it was the colonial masters that bought these slaves in exchange for the money he got. In 1472 when westerners first step into Lagos, it was no more developed than other port areas of Nigeria, which were further away from Europe.

I can't believe that, in the face of the overwhelming evidences, you are arguing against the fact that, Lagos was favored because of it's port city and proximity factors and the development of the region can be directly linked to the visit of the westerners.
i believe you are the one mistaken. you are merging two eras and two peoples ( british and portuguese ) that have nothing to do with each other. after slavery was outlawed the portuguese left nigeria and the portuguese did not come to lagos to live. they didnt try to build or do anything but buy slaves. that was a different era. and the money from that trade was used by the lagos kings to develop lagos. and when slavery was outlawed the portuguese left. then a few decades after that is when colonialism by the british started and they found a favorable developed city in lagos to operate from and colluded with the kings of lagos. you need to brush up on your history bro

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by Zedoo(m): 6:52pm On Nov 20, 2016
DONGOYARO1:
The last time Nigeria broke up, the ibos were the one crying about starvation and dieing of kwarshiorkor.

They were cut off from food supplies on ALL fronts....despite the War being fought in igbo land.....they have quickly rebuilt and also stormed the far north with their entrepreneurial skills.... If Nigeria breaks up, the igbo man will stand very firm...just imagine a nation with all the igbo men who have developed the north and south in ONE zone.... Hmmm there will be MASSIVE growth in the east even more than now.

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by engrchykae(m): 7:00pm On Nov 20, 2016
RockHard:
Oshoko is being contradictory here. No other ethnicity stands to lose more than the SEasterners if Nigeria divides because their survival as a people is intricately linked to the rest of Nigeria than any other group. Not only do they depend on other regions for imports, the fact that they are mostly traders and migrants is actually a pointer to their vulnerability than strenght as they need a large enough market to thrive and be successful. Oshokomole must have been overly excited and high when he made that exaggerated statement.
u can tell yourself any lie you want but the truth is that you are just doing what people have been doing since time immemorial which is
SELF DECEPTION.
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by NaWetinDey(m): 7:03pm On Nov 20, 2016
OJUcrook:
Yeah I am sure this is what you mean by their ''enterprising spirit''

And this is exactly what he was telling hole-heads like you to avoid. A man and possibly his wife or concubine doing their business. Now, you should judge for yourself which of the two is more demonic, scum.

http://www.tori.ng/news/42525/shocker-see-the-two-suspects-caught-hiding-3-human.html

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by engrchykae(m): 7:08pm On Nov 20, 2016
I TRUST FAYOSE BUT FFK I DO NOT TRUST.
EVEN THOUGH FAYOSE MIGHT BE BUILDING BRIDGE WITH US IN ORDER TO BE FORMIDABLE AGAINST THE CALIPHATE BUT THE MAJORITY OF HIS KINSMEN PREFERS THE LORDSHIP OF A DRUG BARON.
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by hamzeiy: 7:13pm On Nov 20, 2016
DONGOYARO1:
The last time Nigeria broke up, the ibos were the one crying about starvation and dieing of kwarshiorkor.
i wonder oh..the guy might have a mental case of memory loss or someone that has lost the touch of reality
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by Nobody: 7:14pm On Nov 20, 2016
dienlmods:

A good friend will always be better than a bad brother, but nobody is being deceived...most of you almajiri and afonjas are diabolical hypocrites and myopic, your envy and jealousy are always so glaring. ...the simple fact is you all hate igbos, yet unable to fathom a Nigeria without igbos... you are all evil and demonic
"Them" & "Us", the MOST evil thing that has ever happened to humanity. The source of most of our ills. This is what gives when you try to atomise the world. It achieves nothing else.

Now you, since when have you been under the impression that ALL Yorubas hate Igbos? Tribal jingoism is a disease..... Learn to see beyond THAT (your tribe; an extension of "Me, me, me" ), your own little bubble of existence.

You should know that Fayose is saying this because the Igbos like him..... You don't believe he'd say the same if they hated him, do you? It's all about HIS feelings. He's a narcissistic idiot who probably could care less about the future of the human race. How can tribes hating one another in perpetuity co-exist without destroying one another eventually? Even if Nigeria is partitioned and you Igbos soar, your success overshadowing that of your neighbours, should you revel in their failure? They're your neighbours, remember?! For how long do you think they will tolerate your success and contempt? Do you think, in the long run, they WON'T attack you out of their hatred for you? What do you think will be the aftermath of a war? All you have worked for for years might end in ruins.

It's not good enough. Humanity can do better than this. This, certainly, isn't the best we can do.

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by Nobody: 7:19pm On Nov 20, 2016
hamzeiy:

i wonder oh..the guy might have a mental case of memory loss or someone that has lost the touch of reality
WE committed a genocide against them. It's nothing to be happy about.
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by brimoknight(m): 7:21pm On Nov 20, 2016
Because they can walk miles with balls on their flat head or go to malaysia,singapore........ And come back in a casket?
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by Whytelyon(m): 7:23pm On Nov 20, 2016

grin Some yorubas are the most silly set of people I have ever seen. Shay na poverty day do una like this.

Fayose is playing his politics rightly and trying to unite the ibos and yorubas for moving forward, other than support him,you there Insulting him and calling him names. Aren't most of you stupid? , sometime when I was young, I was told the most learned and well educated people are the yorubas but when I see most of you on here talk, I laugh because the way most of you showcase idiocy and illiteracy is second to none. grin hear say politics is what you focus on..

Ask yourselves, after Tinubu put buhari into aso rock, flying him in his jets, brought all of you to give him support, when it was time to sideline, he did his examinations according to him,and put only the Hausa race. Where is Tinubu today? I thought he's the political Mogul of the Yorubas, then why is he silent to failures of Buhari - Answer is simple he doesn't want to associate with failure.

The day the foolery of you yorubas would dawn on you and you understand that ibos aren't your enemies then you'd understand things very clearly.

Ask Awolowo what he wanted to do before Azikiwe misbehaved, greed and everything put us under this Hausa people who don't understand a single thing about politics. It's a pity most of you yorubas are double edged swords to the ibos and the hausas will always joke with you in the end.

Fayose as far as am concerned is the only liberal, and decent yoruba man of clear understanding when it comes to politics, the rest of you, e be like say na the hungry. You don't know what you doing.

I rest my case here. Very disappointed.

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by bashydemy(m): 7:24pm On Nov 20, 2016
Nebuchadnezar:
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buhari is a terrorist



Akoi common sense?

Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by Nobody: 7:27pm On Nov 20, 2016
brimoknight:
Because they can walk miles with balls on their flat head or go to malaysia,singapore........ And come back in a casket?
Among we Yorubas, there're also those who "can go to malaysia, singapore....... And come back in a casket"..... So, what's your point?

It's very primitive to think in this manner.

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by linearity: 7:29pm On Nov 20, 2016
sukkottt:
i believe you are the one mistaken. you are merging two eras and two peoples ( british and portuguese ) that have nothing to do with each other. after slavery was outlawed the portuguese left nigeria and the portuguese did not come to lagos to live. they didnt try to build or do anything but buy slaves. that was a different era. and the money from that trade was used by the lagos kings to develop lagos. and when slavery was outlawed the portuguese left. then a few decades after that is when colonialism by the british started and they found a favorable developed city in lagos to operate from and colluded with the kings of lagos. you need to brush up on your history bro

At least, we both agreed on one thing, i.e. the westerners aka Portuguese made an in road first into Lagos through their slave trade. These Portuguese established a footprint that the British used to establish hold on Lagos. In the 1700s before the abolishment of slavery, Bight of Benin (Benin Republic) & Lagos (Nigeria) were the major ports in Africa and the last point before onward sailing to Europe, Calabar & Bonny were established later, but they were not as big as Lagos. Lagos was kind of a confluence as other small port cities ship into it, all these were established by the Portuguese.

When the British came, they landed on the same port, it was the already made port that attracted them, the Portuguese built the port to enhance their slave trades, the Lagos Obas did not build it.

There were no developments in mainland Lagos that attracted the British, they were leaving on their ships right at the port until they were able to build quasi-permanent shelters in mainland Lagos.

If you look at all the cities in West Africa that, the British first annexed e.g. Ouidah, Porto Novo, Freetown, Victoria, Badagry, etc; they are all port cities, first established by the Portuguese and used for docking their slave ships, the British merely re-used what the Portuguese built and left behind.

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by sukkottt: 7:32pm On Nov 20, 2016
linearity:


At least, we both agreed on one thing, i.e. the westerners aka Portuguese made an in road first into Lagos through their slave trade. These Portuguese established a footprint that the British used to establish hold on Lagos. In the 1700s before the abolishment of slavery, Bight of Benin (Benin Republic) & Lagos (Nigeria) were the major ports in Africa and the last point before onward sailing to Europe, Calabar & Bonny were established later, but they were not as big as Lagos. Lagos was kind of a confluence as other small port cities ship into it, all these were established by the Portuguese.

When the British came, they landed on the same port, it was the already made port that attracted them, the Portuguese built the port to enhance their slave trades, the Lagos Obas did not build it.

There were no developments in mainland Lagos that attracted the British, they were leaving on their ships right at the port until they were able to build quasi-permanent shelters in mainland Lagos.

If you look at all the cities in West Africa that, the British first annexed e.g. Ouidah, Porto Novo, Freetown, Victoria, Badagry, etc; they are all port cities, first established by the Portuguese and used for docking their slave ships, the British merely re-used what the Portuguese built and left behind.
they made no in-road. they only stayed at the port. its the british who made in-roads bro. lagos was developed before the british came. i have a book for you to read to get the real facts

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by brexit: 7:34pm On Nov 20, 2016
The man that gave him the title is not abreast with igbo culture,we do not give title to people you cannot vouch for and anyone who does not respect his elders
acenazt:
Fayose and that him multicolored lip no go stop dey talk anyhow. Those iPods go begin feel big

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by morbeta(m): 7:47pm On Nov 20, 2016
DONGOYARO1:
The last time Nigeria broke up, the ibos were the one crying about starvation and dieing of kwarshiorkor.


Dogoyaro you are indeed a gworo chewing he goat. There was blockage of food supplies still Igbo's survived and fought for two and half years with bare hands and cutlasses.

Check out what is happening to your people up north even without blockage, starvation is killing almost 87% of your keens men.

Can you compare any city in Igbo land with the ones in the north even after the bombardment of 1967.
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by linearity: 7:53pm On Nov 20, 2016
sukkottt:
they made no in-road. they only stayed at the port. its the british who made in-roads bro. lagos was developed before the british came. i have a book for you to read to get the real facts

Can you list the developments in Lagos that attracted the British?

Don't get me wrong, Lagos had a way of live, an ecosystem, settlements, building, a system; just like any other city then; and Lagos' way of life might have been more 'sophisticated' compare to other cities then, because they were in closer proximity to the Portuguese when they were around.

Where I differ from you is, your assertion that wrongly stated that, it was these inland 'developments' and not the ports that attracted the British.

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by azezola(m): 7:54pm On Nov 20, 2016
I bet you they're going to full kirikiri for drugs related crimes....can shout thousands of them are on death row all over the world.
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by sukkottt: 7:55pm On Nov 20, 2016
linearity:


Can you list the developments in Lagos that attracted the British?

Don't get me wrong, Lagos had a way of live, an ecosystem, settlements, building, a system; just like any other city then; and Lagos' way of life might have been more 'sophisticated' compare to other cities then, because they were in closer proximity to the Portuguese when they were around.

Where I differ from you is, your assertion that wrongly stated that, it was these inland 'developments' and not the ports that attracted the British.
AHHHH you are finally starting to see the light. wink
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by brimoknight(m): 7:56pm On Nov 20, 2016
joyContraMundum:
Among we Yorubas, there're also those who "can go to malaysia, singapore....... And come back in a casket"..... So, what's your point?

It's very primitive to think in this manner.

My point here is the igbos survival as a people is linked to the other parts of Nigeria.
What Good can they do to themselves
So, saying they can survive doesn't make sense with the ill-ways of living with others

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by acenazt: 8:12pm On Nov 20, 2016
Bujumbura:
Sorry big boys don't feel Big because they are already BIG.


We are BIG



#ProudlyIgbo
lol yeah sure big boy how's the bigness helping you
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by oluxy(m): 8:19pm On Nov 20, 2016
Liar!
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by Nobody: 8:21pm On Nov 20, 2016
RockHard:


This has to be the silliest horse manure i have heard in a long while. Igbos aren't the ONLY ones into importation. And even if they are, na from heaven or space their imports dey come from?? How difficult is it to go to china and import container?? Guy abeg go rest.

like seriously, in order not to waste your time just briefly tell me other tribes that are into importation as their major business and which type of materials do they major in

thanks..

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by VajanahDischaj(f): 8:29pm On Nov 20, 2016
maclatunji:
I hope whoever he was trying to impress are impressed.
yeah! the flat nippleHeads are happy now, the longish - round ballCLiT heads go vex tire
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by RockHard: 8:31pm On Nov 20, 2016
carmag:


like seriously, in order not to waste your time just briefly tell me other tribes that are into importation as their major business and which type of materials do they major in

thanks..

Listen, this will be my last exchange with you, so listen good coz I won't waste my time schooling you after this. Your folks mainly import substandard merchandise. Following is the list of major Nigerian imports and their worth -- before some people come and claim that their substandard imported merchandise constitute the bulk of the revenues generated via SW ports.

Refined petroleum- 15% ($7.83-billion)
Cars- 3.4% ($1.75-billion)
Wheat - 2.8% ($1.46-billion)
Packaged medicaments - 1.4% ($752-million)
Rice - 1.4% ($706-million)
Concentrated Milk - 1.3% ($679-million)
Raw Sugar - 1.3% ($668-million)
Malt extract- 0.84% ($441-million)

Sources:
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/import/nga/all/show/2014/

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by bareal(m): 8:33pm On Nov 20, 2016
carmag:


land/ property tax is not exempted from any individual or group of persons

have you ever heard a Yoruba man owns one square metre of land outside south west not to talk of developing it

igbos are not only gifted but they go out to conquer

Just as they have developed Lagos and other areas leaving their region in the mud! Other regions are going to tax them heavily.

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by bareal(m): 8:45pm On Nov 20, 2016
lastchild:
if ibos will loose and Nigeria knows it then why can't they let them go?

Holding them shows that Nigeria can't survive without ibos and they know it

We still need their tax and other import duties...we are going to tax them heavily this time.

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by Nobody: 9:06pm On Nov 20, 2016
Aigbofa:


Expansionism itself connotes the existence of an economic base, and where would that be for the ibos if all your investments are not in iboland? Where are you expanding to?

the expatiate that finds their way to Africa do so because the market isn't saturated hence it would be a fertile ground and less competition to flourish

in that regard, someone with business ACUMEN will rather do business where there is less competition in order to maximise his profits

why am I even giving you the secret to wealth creation without consultation

omo !!.. my former landlord a Yoruba man will skin you alive if he ever found you in dispute with an Igbo man rather he will advise you to be humble and tap from what he is doing

i moved in to his house occupying just a room going about my hustle but after less than five years i bought one of his properties there in Lagos
Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by Nobody: 9:52pm On Nov 20, 2016
RockHard:


Listen, this will be my last exchange with you, so listen good coz I won't waste my time schooling you after this. Your folks mainly import substandard merchandise. Following is the list of major Nigerian imports and their worth -- before some people come and claim that their substandard imported merchandise constitute the bulk of the revenues generated via SW ports.

Refined petroleum- 15% ($7.83-billion)
Cars- 3.4% ($1.75-billion)
Wheat - 2.8% ($1.46-billion)
Packaged medicaments - 1.4% ($752-million)
Rice - 1.4% ($706-million)
Concentrated Milk - 1.3% ($679-million)
Raw Sugar - 1.3% ($668-million)
Malt extract- 0.84% ($441-million)

Sources:
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/import/nga/all/show/2014/

abro pls let's end it there

the consignments ordered by corporate organisations is what you are making reference to. ..I rest my case


make an enquiry if you can, 60% of every family in Igbo land has an importer as individual, check the containers at Apapa whorf, tincan island, PH port, Calabar port

mention me after your inquiries

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by papiwyte(m): 10:07pm On Nov 20, 2016
Fayose mocking Igbos grin grin grin

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by Nobody: 10:15pm On Nov 20, 2016
bareal:


Just as they have developed Lagos and other areas leaving the regions in the mud! Other regions are going to tax them heavily.

only if had traveled to any part of Igbo land and mention exactly where is not developed then I will beginning to take you seriously

igbos are only asking the FG to fix federal roads across their region which they are entitled to


secondary, taxation isn’t for businesses alone, a civil servant also get taxed so don't make it the bases of your argument

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Re: Only Igbo Will Survive If Nigeria Breaks – Fayose by drnoel: 10:26pm On Nov 20, 2016
RockHard:
Oshoko is being contradictory here. No other ethnicity stands to lose more than the SEasterners if Nigeria divides because their survival as a people is intricately linked to the rest of Nigeria than any other group. Not only do they depend on other regions for imports, the fact that they are mostly traders and migrants is actually a pointer to their vulnerability than strenght as they need a large enough market to thrive and be successful. Oshokomole must have been overly excited and high when he made that exaggerated statement.

Giving yasef headache gor noffing

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