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pazienza:
1. Biafra proposes a form of government where each province will have total control of her resources and only contribute to the centre.
In Biafra, smaller groups like Oron, Eket, Andoni can unite and have their own province with full resource control and pay tax to the central government.
There won't be any land use decree.
IPOB had stressed on this times without number. Even Ojukwu Biafra was divided into provinces,with non Igbo speaking tribes having their own distinct provinces with indigenous administrators.
You need nobody to checkmate Igbos under such arrangement.
And moreover, naturally, Igbos exist in clans that do checkmate each other, there have never in history been a period when Igbo groups United to conquer a non Igbo speaking people.

2. Why should the capital location be an issue, since it's not going to be a case where people were milked dry so that FG and go build up Lagos and Abuja?
It will be all province for themselves.
We can apply the three capital system of RSA. The legislative in one Province, the judiciary will be hosted by another province and the Executive by another, all these can be negotiated.

3. This is totally irrelevant. Truth remains that Ndiigbo had never annexed non Igbo lands in the past. Arochukwu was only one that was annexed, but when you factor in the fact that Arochukwu was won by a union of Aro, Ibibio and Akpa( Ekoid) people, then it could hardly be termed annexation.
Ndiigbo are not empire builders. Annexation and expansionism is not our trait. We are republicans by nature.
No Nigerian state government was ever going to approve being part of Biafra, even. Enugu state government denied Biafra. So citing Delta state government response is quite irrelevant to the issue of Biafra. Nobody expected any different response. But IPOB and their Biafran ideology is well received by the commoners in Enu ani, which is why Asaba is an IPOB stronghold.

4. This again is a trivial matter. Each province will have their own language and English as their official language.
English will remain the lingua franca.
But this is quite funny. You are scared of an Igbo national language, but comfortable with an English non African lingual franca.

The scenario you painted of someone being denied position because of ethnicity will not happen with the structure Biafra intends to run on. The provinces will be stronger and more lucrative than the centre. It won't be the case of Nigeria.
Moreover, I personally don't subscribe to a Biafra with Ijaw, Edo and Edoids( Urhobo, Itsekiri, Isoko), when I think of Biafra, I think of Igbo, Igboids and AkwaCross, cos these are people we share similar ideologies with.

Infact, I'm only replying you because you stated that you are from AkwaCross area .
So my use of Biafra during the course of my reply represents strictly Igbo, Igboid and AkwaCross and maybe Ogoni.

5. Igbos are often the subject of caustic attacks by those groups you mentioned, which I personally don't consider part of Biafra.
Go to Ijaw facebook pages, Radio Niger Delta, and even here in NL and see the amount of hatred towards Ndiigbo emanating from those quarters.
How many times have you seen Igbos hurl insults at AkwaCross people? Rarely. Why? Because you hardly get Igbophobia in AkwaCross area. AkwaCross people are all over Aba, they understand the Igboman and the Igbo man understand them, they don't show us hate, and in return we don't show them hate.

This generation Of Ndiigbo know better. We will not allow Igbophobic elements whether from
Ijaw, Edo, Edoids or Yoruba go unpunished. We will reply them with so much hate that even lucifer will marvel. Actions must be met with reactions.
So, if you think we are hurling insults at those children of hate, then you are John snow, cos what you are seeing is only just the beginning.
Peeps must be forced to learn that Igbophobia will not be tolerated by Ndiigbo, simple.
I have no intent of sharing Biafra with those people, it's only natural that they stick to their Arewa masters, you know what they say of birds of same feather.

6. Again Nnamdi had made it clear he has no political ambitions in Biafra. Even if he does, the kind of structure Biafra intends to run on will make the centre only ceremonial, it won't be same all powerful Nigerian president.
Ndiigbo had no problem with Obong of Calabar rulling the Eastern region house of Chiefs ahead of Eze Nri , Eze aro, Obi of Onitsha, Igwe Nnewi, etc. We had no problem with Eyo ita ruling the Eastern region , Adaka was voted by Ndiigbo in UNN as the SUG president, we voted a Fulani as the first Mayor of Enugu, we all voted an Ogbia man, GEJ and stood by him when all abandoned him even Ijaw men like Clark abandoned him since.

We are more than capable of voting non Igbos.
By the way, remove Urhobo here, I don't consider them part of Biafra.

7. How exactly are Igbo leaders the most corrupt in the country? What did you smoke?

Are thieves like Ibori, Amaechi, Silva, Abacha, Obj, IBB Igbos? Please don't provoke me with this Igbophobic statement, cause you won't like the outcome.

Biafra will be structured in such a way that government will be too close to the people. No more Abuja jamboree, that alone will curb the excesses of the politicians. They will be under closer scrutiny by their people,and since each province is going to be ran by what they produce, it will force leaders to think outside the box.
The abrogation of the dubious Obj created land use decree will hand the lands back to the natives and the government must serve the owners of the land and not the other way round. All these will change the political orientation and task leaders to be more productive and transparent to earn the people support and trust.

8. Again stop dragging Edoids and Ijaws into this. You gave the impression that you are from AkwaCross area, but so far, you keep raising issues about the Edoids.
Not once have you made mention of the Oron struggle for independence , Obolo and Ibeno struggle for total control of Akwa Ibom coastline wealth, the Ekoid land disputes with Ikwo and Ezza clans of Igbo, the land disputes between Ndokis and Ibibios, these are real issues surrounding the AkwaCross Igbo relationship, instead you are focused on issues occurring in distant non related lands.
Don't give me the impression that you are an impostor claiming AkwaCross.

As for your question on utopia. Biafra will have the richest of human resources in Africa, it will have access to enormous natural gas deposits in Imo and Anambra, Coal in Enugu, crude oil reserves in Imo, Anambra, Ndoki, Etche, Asa. As well as those in AkwaCross area if you guys decide to join the party.
It will also have an enormous patriotic diaspora population spread all over the world ready to come and invest home as well as attract foreign investors, as the Biafran government will create the enabling environment for business to thrive.
The possibilities are endless.
Keeping the country peaceful is equally part of why I don't fancy having the Edoids and Ijaws in the Biafra, as doing that will unbalance things and create chaos.

9. That is just a proposal. I don't consider Itsekiri and Urhobo parts of Biafra, any body that put then on the Biafran map is merely fishing for their reactions.

We don't share same life ideology with those people. I see no basis for unity with them. We can't be running away from a mad house( Nigeria), only to end up creating another mad house in Biafra by inviting bitter people with whom we share little with to form a nation.

When you know you are going to be running your province with whatever you produce, and that there won't be monthly allocation coming from Abuja, you wouldn't be bothered about those creating 1 million provinces for themselves, since they would have to run them with their own resources and not yours.

That's the great thing about the Biafran proposed structure. It eliminates the things that turned Nigeria into a failure.

10. Biafra is not going to be a parasitic state, so there won't be any need forcing any unwilling group into it.
If an ethnic group within the proposed Biafran area votes against Biafra , then they are free to go their way. It's as free as that.

As for electoral manipulation, you can't rig where you are not popular, it will cause chaos. IPOB is too resolute and more than capable of securing the votes and ensuring no such manipulation occur.
The Biafran structure will take care of Igbophobia, by first ensuring that overwhelmingly Igbophobic elements as found in Ijaw, Edo, Edoids don't become part of Biafra.

The total resource control to the provinces and decentralization of the government, that will create will a very weak centre and strong regions will eliminate the. thoughts of phantom Igbo hegemony that exist only in people's mind.

NB: I personally subscribe to an Igbo speaking only Biafra first and foremost, but not aversed to a Union of Igbo speaking people, Akwa Cross( with Andoni of course) and maybe Ogoni too.

don't waste your time with that impostor. he probably spent a few years in akwa ibom and can string a few lines together, so he now feels he's an authority.

thedarkside:
ofcourse...

Kindly explain what you have to lose in Biafra.

Develpeast:
Kindly explain what you have to lose in Biafra.

Well, the dude you're trying to engage in a civil way, started this whole bruhaha. He intentionally launched the first attack.

Develpeast:
Kindly explain what you have to lose in Biafra.

the problem i have with biafra is that,if we deceide to realy push on with the biafra plans,our buy and sell power would be much less..

it will not be enough to compete with global-powers...

we will just be another powerless nation...and be toys for others...

in nigeria we have much more power with a fierce army that western nations fear...

thedarkside:
the problem i have with biafra is that,if we deceide to realy push on with the biafra plans,our buy and sell power would be much less..

it will not be enough to compete with global-powers...

we will just be another powerless nation...and be toys for others...

in nigeria we have much more power with a fierce army that western nations fear...

Japan is a smaller nation, but an economic global power....

thedarkside:
the problem i have with biafra is that,if we deceide to realy push on with the biafra plans,our buy and sell power would be much less..

it will not be enough to compete with global-powers...

we will just be another powerless nation...and be toys for others...

in nigeria we have much more power with a fierce army that western nations fear...

Delusional

blues2022:
Japan is a smaller nation, but an economic global power....

but they have a fierce army!!!..remember?

this is a dog eat dog world..

we urhobos understand that fact..

we are just trying to warn you..
is not that we hate igbos..not a tall...

thedarkside:
but the have a fierce army!!!..remember?

this is a dog eat dog world..

we urhobos understand that fact..

we are just trying to warn you..

Dude, with all our supposed super power army, we are still behind in the committee of nations. We can even manufacture common ak47 talk of nuclear warheads. Bro, its not about number, its organization and hyper brain work. Nigeria lacks it...... Common Boko boys they deal with our men, because of poor equipment.... niga whatz up with you

Modified: Japan don't currently have a conventional army. They operate a police defense system.... you can find out more. Use Google.

Fremancipation:
Delusional

.your opinion...

blues2022:
Dude, with all our supposed super power army, we are still behind in the committee of nations. We can even manufacture common ak47 talk of nuclear warheads. Bro, its not about number, its organization and hyper brain work. Nigeria lacks it...... Common Boko boys they deal with our men, because of poor equipment.... niga whatz up with you

we dont have to build it,we can just buy them...

nigeria need atleast 15 atom bombs to scare aggressors off...

look..it is common fact that nigeria has the capabilities to conquer the ol black-africa..

all high ranking nigerian generals know that...

thedarkside:
the problem i have with biafra is that,if we deceide to realy push on with the biafra plans,our buy and sell power would be much less..

it will not be enough to compete with global-powers...

we will just be another powerless nation...and be toys for others...

in nigeria we have much more power with a fierce army that western nations fear...

What does a southerner sell that a man in zamfara buys? Very little or nothing to say the least.

What's the total population of the south south and south east? Maybe 60million or 70million. This is a fair population size.

With a population of 60million, we can create a strong military which will have access to very good amenities rather than too many soldiers with little amenities to practice with. Algeria has a smaller population than Nigeria but they have good military.

If Nigeria has a fierce army, bokoharam won't be killing colonels.

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03xtr09r:
Despicable fagg0t from Wasteland, if you like smash your oblong conehead into smithereens your portion still remains with your Fulani masters in OduaArewanistan republic.

Stop propagating wicked lies and propaganda against Igbos/IPOB...if not you shall end up being used for sacrifice by your diabolic kinsmen in Soka Evil Forest...sooner than later.

Accursed neanderthal savage of dirt, slavery, squalor, abject poverty and squalor!

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Fuuucck off my mention. Bastardized flatt headed chimpanzee from the erosion ravaged region of drug pushers. You shall continue to wail in disbelief about the fact u will remain slaves in Nigeria

thedarkside:
we dont have to build it,we can just buy them...

nigeria need atleast 15 atom bombs to scare aggressors off...

Who go sale give you Common Brazilian fighter jet una no fit buy, because of American
backdoor restrictive policy. Dude, face reality.... The country is on comatose.

Develpeast:
What does a southerner sell that a man in zamfara buys? Very little or nothing to say the least.

What's the total population of the south south and south east? Maybe 60million or 70million. This is a fair population size.

With a population of 60million, we can create a strong military which will have access to very good amenities rather than too many soldiers with little amenities to practice with. Algeria has a smaller population than Nigeria but they have good military.

If Nigeria has a fierce army, bokoharam won't be killing colonels.

have you ever seen boko haram in action before..?,?..

they are fearless..and with guerelia tactics and religion practicaly unbeatable...

boko haram can never win a conventional war against the nigerian army...

only very few armies can defeat us in a conventional war....even america would have a tough time defeating us..

their is a reason why the capital was moved from lagos to abuja...its to make ready for any invasions from western nations...

blues2022:
Dude, with all our supposed super power army, we are still behind in the committee of nations. We can even manufacture common ak47 talk of nuclear warheads. Bro, its not about number, its organization and hyper brain work. Nigeria lacks it...... Common Boko boys they deal with our men, because of poor equipment.... niga whatz up with you

Modified: Japan don't currently have a conventional army. They operate a police defense system.... you can find out more. Use Google.

Very smart bro.

Thank you very much.

blues2022:
Who go sale give you Common Brazilian fighter jet una no fit buy, because of American
backdoor restrictive policy. Dude, face reality.... The country is on comatose.

nigeria is not comatose...

look around you...since jonathan is gone our confidence is returning...we know the rest of the world are our enemies,,;and we are ready for them,and we have many allies..iran will not watch the shias killed,arab world will not watch sunnis killed..and the blacks all over the world will declare war on any aggressor that attacks us directly...

thedarkside:
have you ever seen boko haram in action before..?,?..

they are fearless..and with guerelia tactics and religion practicaly unbeatable...

boko haram can never win a conventional war against the nigerian army...

only very few armies can defeat us in a conventional war....even america would have a tough time defeating us..

their is a reason why the capital was moved from lagos to abuja...its to make ready for any invasions from western nations...

What about avoiding probable enemies now. I think its cheaper than fighting a war and no loss of lives.

Its been a very long time since we had an external invasion which means our main problem is infighting.

Do you think with the right amenities, we will not be able to fight aggressors? No one can beat a coordinated army but a small army can defeat a big uncoordinated army.

Develpeast:
What about avoiding probable enemies now. I think its cheaper than fighting a war and no loss of lives.

Its been a very long time since we had an external invasion which means our main problem is infighting.

Do you think with the right amenities, we will not be able to fight aggressors? No one can beat a coordinated army but a small army can defeat a big uncoordinated army.

looook..this is a dog eat dog world..

did you know that in the roman times,their were many white-tribes in europe??..

i wouldnt rely on niceness of human-beings...

thedarkside:
nigeria is not comatose...

look around you...since jonathan is gone our confidence is returning...we know the rest of the world are our enemies,,;and we are ready for them,and we have many allies..iran will not watch the shias killed,arab world will not watch sunnis killed..and the blacks all over the world will declare war on any aggressor that attacks us directly...

Conventional war is old school. All aggressors need to strangle you is to squeeze your economic balls, and boom, you're on your knees.... So forget all this number theory.... Enemy nation may not even fire a single shot to bring your defense down...#facts

Lmao....who is rejecting who? On the contrary, you are the plague the whole world is avoiding. Newsflash, no one wants you. Not even the Hausa/Fulani, not the Yoruba's, not the Niger Deltans, not the delta igbos, not the ikwerres....Lmao!!

I will link you to a video where a Thai police said that Igbos are the scum of the earth and the disgrace of Africa. Lmao!!

pazienza:
You are not wanted. You are the madness we seek to do away with. Stop seeking for cheap attention and deal with it.

blues2022:
Conventional war is old school. All aggressors need to strangle you is to squeeze your economic balls, and boom, you're on your knees.... So forget all this number theory.... Enemy nation may not even fire a single shot to bring your defense down...#facts

exactly what the are trying right now..

but its seems to be failing....

didnt they say nigeria will disintegrate in 2014??..

their plans are failing them..

heck...even in syria they are already failing...

libya,afganistan,irak syria method is not going to fly in nigeria,we are diplomaticaly too strong for them..

and a direct attack on nigeria will be their doom..

all weapons are pointed at europe and america!..

and that is a fact!!!...

What is your problem sir? Urhobo can speak for Isoko seeing that we are in the same region (SS). Anyone from the SS can speak for the SS but you easterners have no business speaking for any SS. Focus on your SE.

Eastactivist:
Why attaching isoko to your madness...
Leave isoko out of your madness.

What's urhobo by the way?
I don't even like minorities being in Biafra...

You all sucks.

thedarkside:
exactly what the are trying right now..

but its seems to be failing....

didnt they say nigeria will disintegrate in 2014??..

their plans are failing them..

heck...even in syria they are already failing...

Heheehee, laughing in Ikwerre.... Did I hear you say they are failing? The problem is we don't tell ourselves the truth.... Let the economy continue on it downward spiral for another four years, and lets see if you'll be sane enough to talk, or even insinuate they are failing.... If you don't face reality and deal with it, dame, she will eat you up like a virus. If Nigeria wants to get it right, she has to restructure her system, or everybody answer im papa name....

Omudia:
What is your problem sir? Urhobo can speak for Isoko seeing that we are in the same region (SS). Anyone from the SS can speak for the SS but you easterners have no business speaking for any SS. Focus on your SE.

its a sad developement of things..the ss and se should be speaking in one voice to get a bigger share of the national cake...but those ipobian mofos ruined the opportunity..very sad..

thedarkside:
we dont have to build it,we can just buy them...

nigeria need atleast 15 atom bombs to scare aggressors off...

look..it is common fact that nigeria has the capabilities to conquer the ol black-africa..

all high ranking nigerian generals know that...

A nation that doesn't produce her own arms, at least a good portion of it will fall prey to aggressors and secessionist.
BTW the Nigerian army has less than 2 field corp(quantity) and its I'll equipped to tackle internal threat.
Its a dog eat dog world, but will u pitch your tent with an old dog or a young wolf. Nigeria is old black Joe(dog) and its dying gradually.
All this problems of social and political insecurity are symptoms of a 'hectic fever' that cannot be cured.
If you re an Urhobo man that understands the geography of ur place very well then you will subscribe to the Biafran project.
The ijaws will, all we need is good dialogue and offer to them wat they won't refuse.
The Igbo cultural group is the 'big brother' of this project and must be prudent and accommodating at all times. We must carry our younger brothers along.

blues2022:
Heheehee, laughing in Ikwerre.... Did I hear you say they are failing? The problem is we don't tell ourselves the truth.... Let the economy continue on it downward spiral for another four years, and lets see if you'll be sane enough to talk, or even insinuate they are failing.... If you don't face reality and deal with it, dame, she will eat you up like a virus. If Nigeria wants to get it right, she has to restructure her system, or everybody answer im papa name....

look..it is a garantie that buhari will be elected again..
your islamaphobia is not going to stop that trend...

i already told you a while ago to clearly separate yourselfs fron the ipobians but you didnt listen..

here we are today abusing the ol igbo race that we dont even hate.

this is your mistake...

nobody wants anything to do with biafra no more..

Biafra cannot even win a war against Niger Delta. Ijaw hot headed boys alone will annihilate them.

mathy001:
Help me tell them ooo. Making enemies where there is none.


One thing they don't understand is that Biafra can never win a war with Nigeria or even become a meaningful nation as long as they remain hostile to their neighbours who have access to seaports.

Buhahahah....technical knock out. I think he passed out already.

mathy001:
Atleast Urhobo women don't go about using cucumbers because the men, like you, are IMPOTENT!

hushuptimus:
A nation that doesn't produce her own arms, at least a good portion of it will fall prey to aggressors and secessionist.
BTW the Nigerian army has less than 2 field corp(quantity) and its I'll equipped to tackle internal threat.
Its a dog eat dog world, but will u pitch your tent with an old dog or a young wolf. Nigeria is old black Joe(dog) and its dying gradually.
All this problems of social and political insecurity are symptoms of a 'hectic fever' that cannot be cured.
If you re an Urhobo man that understands the geography of ur place very well then you will subscribe to the Biafran project.
The ijaws will, all we need is good dialogue and offer to them wat they won't refuse.
The Igbo cultural group is the 'big brother' of this project and must be prudent and accommodating at all times. We must carry our younger brothers along.

ijaws will never join biafra..pipe dreams..

they will be the first to declare war on biafra..

have you forgoting aro..?

thedarkside:
its a sad developement of things..the ss and se should be speaking in one voice to get a bigger share of the national cake...but those ipobian mofos ruined the opportunity..very sad..

You guys also initiate the pains. You accuse us of land grabbing. Something that is not in intention nor plan. We have lived side by side for hundred of years, if not thousand, without any history of aggression or expansionism.... Why the name calling?? Why the unnecessary accusation? For every effect, there must be a cause....

Like I said we need to understand geography to make all this claims. Their are more than 6 ethnic group between the delta andbayelsa.
Do you know wat dis means.
Only 1 or 2 is/are needed to cut out every land access to ijawland.
Ijawland can not be a run-away state wen Biafra comes.
Pls use your map. Its all about strategic assessment not e-battles

Lol... Wars are not fought with stick and stones anymore. They are fought with heavy weaponry. India and China are over 4 times the population of the US but the USA will nuke them any day even with one eye closed.

Neemrod:
I think you are trying too hard, there can never be a war between igbo and urhobo, how many una be kwanu?
The war will likely be between urhobo and Ihiala LGA and you still won't stand a chance. You are a minority and there's a big limit to what you and your likes can achieve.