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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 10:07am On Nov 25, 2016
NPComplete:
Common dude. I am beginning to suspect u are not being truthful urself. U want to claim u don't know Pastor Ogundare? Or Olusola Areogun? Or the loves domain peeps? Common. U have to know one of those names he mentioned or ur story should be followed with caution. These are people JCCF or any other fellowship invite almost every time every year.
Lol
Chill and watch, I am still observing this howmon of a guy. He could be playing mischief himself. He claims he does not know a single name I mentioned and he claims he graduated from futa. Smh. Christians can be terrible people. All in the name of fighting for God, they wld lie.
Howmon,...hmmm... Anyway let me assume you are who you are and let's see how our offline correspondence goes.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by jcjoof: 10:16am On Nov 25, 2016
While urging hardmirror to retrace his step back to Christ I will not want him to bring CAC Campus Fellowship FUTA into his story because I was one of the leaders in the fellowship for the session he quoted and we did not have record of anyone that died due to fasting. I will still want to refer to him as brother because I know that it is still in the power of God to save him and others like him. Jesus will like to receive him and others like him back once they are ready to come back to Him..
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Nobody: 10:16am On Nov 25, 2016
You shouldn't have posted this. It is capable of altering investigative cooperation. I suggest you guys take screenshots hiding your email addresses for everyone to see.
HardMirror:
Lol
Chill and watch, I am still observing this howmon of a guy. He could be playing mischief himself. He claims he does not know a single name I mentioned and he claims he graduated from futa. Smh. Christians can be terrible people. All in the name of fighting for God, they wld lie.
Howmon,...hmmm... Anyway let me assume you are who you are and let's see how our offline correspondence goes.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 10:16am On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
Lol
Chill and watch, I am still observing this howmon of a guy. He could be playing mischief himself. He claims he does not know a single name I mentioned and he claims he graduated from futa. Smh. Christians can be terrible people. All in the name of fighting for God, they wld lie.
Howmon,...hmmm... Anyway let me assume you are who you are and let's see how our offline correspondence goes.
You are forgetting Howmon is not the only guy who graduated in that school, and who was also in that fellowship. Will two of them lie?

Watch it. he will post WhatsApp exchange from their group.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Nobody: 10:26am On Nov 25, 2016
Many here wanted it. We have come too far, the reputation and integrity of some are on the line. If almost everyone here would want to know the identity of a deceased person, which some find a bit troubling, what is the biggie about having CAC campus fellowship involved in the story? Or have you identified that he was one of you?

“The truth." Dumbledore sighed. "It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.”
― J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

jcjoof:
While urging hardmirror to retrace his step back to Christ I will not want him to bring CAC Campus Fellowship FUTA into his story because I was one of the leaders in the fellowship for the session he quoted and we did not have record of anyone that died due to fasting. I will still want to refer to him as brother because I know that it is still in the power of God to save him and others like him. Jesus will like to receive him and others like him back once they are ready to come back to Him..
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 10:29am On Nov 25, 2016
jcjoof:
While urging hardmirror to retrace his step back to Christ I will not want him to bring CAC Campus Fellowship FUTA into his story because I was one of the leaders in the fellowship for the session he quoted and we did not have record of anyone that died due to fasting. I will still want to refer to him as brother because I know that it is still in the power of God to save him and others like him. Jesus will like to receive him and others like him back once they are ready to come back to Him..
How did I bring the fellowship into this whole controversy? You have people here even saying it with confidence that I never attended futa, talkless of my story being true. Deny it all you want. Why I have avoided this caccf issue is because it would become the subject of discussion, but if you people want it this way, then let's proceed, we wld soon know who lies.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 10:31am On Nov 25, 2016
jcjoof:
While urging hardmirror to retrace his step back to Christ I will not want him to bring CAC Campus Fellowship FUTA into his story because I was one of the leaders in the fellowship for the session he quoted and we did not have record of anyone that died due to fasting. I will still want to refer to him as brother because I know that it is still in the power of God to save him and others like him. Jesus will like to receive him and others like him back once they are ready to come back to Him..
And more testifiers are stepping forward. This makes a count of 3 for those who were FUTARIANS and this one was a leader in the same period mentioned by HardMirror and he denies HardMirrors claims. I hope say una dey read
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 10:35am On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
How did I bring the fellowship into this whole controversy? You have people here even saying it with confidence that I never attended futa, talkless of my story being true. Deny it all you want. Why I have avoided this caccf issue is because it would become the subject of discussion, but if you people want it this way, then let's proceed, we wld soon know who lies.
You are too jumpy for a person who knows what he is saying is the absolute truth. Relax! The truth always finds a way to surface no matter how you try to gesticulate and shout it down or distract. It still speaks.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 10:36am On Nov 25, 2016
analice107:
You are forgetting Howmon is not the only guy who graduated in that school, and who was also in that fellowship. Will two of them lie?

Watch it. he will post WhatsApp exchange from their group.
You are so fortunate I have people I still respect on this thread, else do you think you are of any importance? You are here feeling like a madam. Someone even said I am on trial. It really made me laugh, on trial? For real? I could choose not to answer anyone, but I will try and corporate with the brothers from caccf, if not for them I wld ask you to scream to high heavens and totally ignore you.
Hope you still maintain your stand that I never attended Futa. Pls do and stand by your word.
You are forming chief investigator without even doing any investigation. Where are the results of the investigation you promised to release yesterday? You said you had information to reveal I never attended the schooln where is the report?
Smh.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 10:40am On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
You are too jumpy for a person who knows what he is saying is the absolute truth. Relax! The truth always finds a way to surface no matter how you try to gesticulate and shout it down or distract. It still speaks.
Abeg, just shut it. Who is jumpy? You that has been calling me a liar even without any proof? Howmon is all you are latching on to now, you and your folks here are just noise makers. Someone claimed she had evidence she was going to release yesterday that wld prove I never attended futa, where is it. The brother exists and died and I have asked u to stay tuned.
Afterall I know your antiques, you are not after the truth, you are only after discrediting me, so don't come here pretending.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Funjosh(m): 10:45am On Nov 25, 2016
TDADA weldon sir, just saying hi cool





Tdada:
I attended cac campus fellowship FUTA, even though I passed out in 2007, I'm well abreast of developments there till now. Please mention the name of the person in question. That shouldn't be too hard I suppose
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Funjosh(m): 10:50am On Nov 25, 2016
I was only waiting for you to mention the person that died that year but you keep on jumping up and down . For your information i also attended CACCF 2010 set. God will deliver you.





HardMirror:
You are so fortunate I have people I still respect on this thread, else do you think you are of any importance? You are here feeling like a madam. Someone even said I am on trial. It really made me laugh, on trial? For real? I could choose not to answer anyone, but I will try and corporate with the brothers from caccf, if not for them I wld ask you to scream to high heavens and totally ignore you.
Hope you still maintain your stand that I never attended Futa. Pls do and stand by your word.
You are forming chief investigator without even doing any investigation. Where are the results of the investigation you promised to release yesterday? You said you had information to reveal I never attended the schooln where is the report?
Smh.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 10:52am On Nov 25, 2016
jcjoof:
While urging hardmirror to retrace his step back to Christ I will not want him to bring CAC Campus Fellowship FUTA into his story because I was one of the leaders in the fellowship for the session he quoted and we did not have record of anyone that died due to fasting. I will still want to refer to him as brother because I know that it is still in the power of God to save him and others like him. Jesus will like to receive him and others like him back once they are ready to come back to Him..
Ekwe.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Suprementos(m): 10:54am On Nov 25, 2016
uvalued:
i no wan make una see me as deceitful i quote HARDMIRROR verbatin



dat must be spiro koko brother hia... em HARDMIRROR wetin you say be de name.of dat.dude...dat one no be for here oh... wetin be hin name
Do you know the brother called Eva T in 2009/2010?
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by raphieMontella: 10:56am On Nov 25, 2016
uvalued:
grin any way this thread is not about you oh super intellengtia that that is too enlightened to understand that SUPERNATURAL/MAGIC IS BEYOND SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS. will wait for hardmirror to answer my kwesion.. so long dude grin grin grin


loading



while you at it dont forget my question stands here



supernatural - of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

magic- the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.

refrence google.

are these you stated based on supernatural/magic




can TRICKS BE MAGIC? undecided undecided
stop derailing this thread pls
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by raphieMontella: 10:56am On Nov 25, 2016
NPComplete:
Common dude. I am beginning to suspect u are not being truthful urself. U want to claim u don't know Pastor Ogundare? Or Olusola Areogun? Or the loves domain peeps? Common. U have to know one of those names he mentioned or ur story should be followed with caution. These are people JCCF or any other fellowship invite almost every time every year.
shvt just got more real.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 11:01am On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
You are so fortunate I have people I still respect on this thread, else do you think you are of any importance? You are here feeling like a madam. Someone even said I am on trial. It really made me laugh, on trial? For real? I could choose not to answer anyone, but I will try and corporate with the brothers from caccf, if not for them I wld ask you to scream to high heavens and totally ignore you.
Hope you still maintain your stand that I never attended Futa. Pls do and stand by your word.
You are forming chief investigator without even doing any investigation. Where are the results of the investigation you promised to release yesterday? You said you had information to reveal I never attended the schooln where is the report?
Smh.
I am a MADAM sir. I do not need to feel like one.

Whether or not you cooperate makes no difference to me, but does to Seun. He is the one who Put you on this pedestal.

I posted this to HopefulLandlord who is now on recession. pls answer me.


Now let me repeat the questions i asked Hardmirror on that his thread.
Let me begin by saying that, any believer who grows in Christ to the level where an ordination of the office of the pastor is placed on his head, that man ought to have had a personal relationship with Christ.
Did Hardmirror had any personal encounter with Christ?
what was it?
For every believer, Christ Himself decides which medium he communicated info through.
what was Hardmiorror's medium of getting messages from Christ?
Every believer dies in salvation. Let me explain.
Everyone of us is a sinner. We were born sinners. We didn't need to commit any sin to be sinners, we sin becos we were born sinners.
But it gets to a point in a life of someone when he discovers his damnation, his depravity, his wretchedness, his helplessness without Christ, and all of this cuts through his heart.
It is at this point that that person breaks down and cries out for help, asking for forgiveness of sins committed.
And this conviction comes with the genuine willingness to forsake the old ways and starts anew.
Something leads to this^^^, It doesnt just
happen.
Did Hardmirror experienced this?^^^
Can he pls tell?
When did Hardmirror die to SELF?

Here is how it's stated;

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Hebrews:6: 4-5.

HopefulLandlord, i need you to produce Mr Hardmirror to come over here and tell me that as a pastor who had the anointing of the Holy Spirit to heal the sick, perform miracles (?) he had all the above requirements.

Was Hardmirror Enlightened by the Holy Spirit?


Does Hardmirror know what it means to be enlightened by the Holy Ghost?

Did he taste the gift?

what is an Heavenly gift?

Was he made a partaker of the Holy Ghost?

What does it mean to be a partaker of the Holy Ghost?

Did he taste the Word of God?

Can one taste the word of God yet won't know what it says Concerning the prophecies about future events?

Is it possible for a Pastor to overturn written down prophesies by fasting and prayers?


You see, am ready for a discussion, so produce Hardmirror or you help him out.
Shalom.

Aside from you naming the dead guy, these are my questions.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 11:02am On Nov 25, 2016
Suprementos:
Do you know the brother called Eva T in 2009/2010?
Is Eva T the name of the brother who died? As proof that we have accurate investigations....Eva T was the president of the fellowship 2009/2010 and he is very much alive!

True or false?
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 11:08am On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
Abeg, just shut it. Who is jumpy? You that has been calling me a liar even without any proof? Howmon is all you are latching on to now, you and your folks here are just noise makers. Someone claimed she had evidence she was going to release yesterday that wld prove I never attended futa, where is it. The brother exists and died and I have asked u to stay tuned.
Afterall I know your antiques, you are not after the truth, you are only after discrediting me, so don't come here pretending.
As popular and RADICAL as you claimed to be back in Futa, fellow Christians can not remember you. Which school did you attend Mr Mirror?
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Funjosh(m): 11:09am On Nov 25, 2016
Esanemmanuel abeg come.





HardMirror:
Thanks bro, I know I saw this somewhere but lost it.

Now here is the intelligent question.


Howmon, you claimed to be a futa alumni. If true, then contact your friends in CACCF who where still in school between 2009 and 2010 to tell you of the firebrand brother who died of Ucler complication. He is well renowned for the prayer programs he organizes. I won't mention his name here. But ask those who attended the fellowship especially workers cos a sunday sunday member may not know. Then come back and challenge me
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Funjosh(m): 11:11am On Nov 25, 2016
Suprementos:
Do you know the brother called Eva T in 2009/2010?
Yes.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 11:11am On Nov 25, 2016
Funjosh:
I was only waiting for you to mention the person that died that year but you keep on jumping up and down . For your information i also attended CACCF 2010 set. God will deliver you.
Number 4 rebuttal from live witnesses
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Funjosh(m): 11:12am On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
Is Eva T the name of the brother who died? As proof that we have accurate investigations....Eva T was the president of the fellowship 2009/2010 and he is very much alive!

True or false?
is that the brother that died huh
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by kevoh(m): 11:12am On Nov 25, 2016
NPComplete:
Common dude. I am beginning to suspect u are not being truthful urself. U want to claim u don't know Pastor Ogundare? Or Olusola Areogun? Or the loves domain peeps? Common. U have to know one of those names he mentioned or ur story should be followed with caution. These are people JCCF or any other fellowship invite almost every time every year.
I just did a google search on those two names and the search results was very interesting. Let us take Olusola Areogun as a case study,below is one of HardMirror's posts from the conversion thread:

HardMirror:
Continuation...


I could not just abandon the faith, I had to fight to keep it alive. So from being a leader in my fellowship, I humbled myself and left the fellowship to join the Life Oasis Church (Dream Center) in Akure. The year was 2011.
Then Pastor Charlse was the man Pastor Olusola areogun sent to establish the church in Akure.

I believed I needed to retrace my step and be a student of the bible to regain my conviction of faith.

I became a student and disciple under Pastor charlse. The church was behind Chicken republic Futa Junction.

I remember being taught fundamental things as if I was never a giant in the works of the spirit, but all that did not matter to me. All I wanted was to fall in love with christ all over again. I wanted to be taught like a child again.

I must confess pastor charlse was a great teacher. I remember how he opened his home to us and how much time he spent with us sharing the word of God with us. Nuturing us. This was despite him being a medical doctor and barely having enough time for himself and family, yet he gave it all for us.
Here's the life Oasis Church website: http://www.lifeoasisinternationalchurch.org/

The picture of the Reverend Olusola and his wife is boldly posted on the home page.

There's a certain Pastor Charles Abiona among the list of Pastors in that church. Picture attached below. Could this be the Pastor Charles whom HardMirror was a disciple under his tutelage?

He also stated that this Pastor Charles started a church branch which is located behind a certain chicken republic. I have also attached a picture of such address picked from life of oasis international church website.

All these I have been able to do with a simple google search. While I am not holding a brief for HardMirror, I didn't need to be a FUTARIAN to confirm some of the names he has posted.

Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 11:13am On Nov 25, 2016
Funjosh:
is that the brother that died huh
Ask the guy why he asked? I also asked the same question but went ahead to help him with saying who Eva T is and was and he is still very much alive.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Funjosh(m): 11:16am On Nov 25, 2016
Ok because me i was at a wedding ceremony with same Eva T few months ago embarassed





damogul:
Ask the guy why he asked? I also asked the same question but went ahead to help him with saying who Eva T is and was and he is still very much alive.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Nobody: 11:17am On Nov 25, 2016
Can of worms cheesy
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 11:23am On Nov 25, 2016
TheSixthSense:
Can of worms cheesy
My Brother i can see you are seeing!
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by EsanEmmanuel(m): 11:23am On Nov 25, 2016
Funjosh:
Esanemmanuel abeg come.
Na lie dey worry him head. seen this b4. Ain't got time for people who lie to prove whats in their shitty head. Nobody died in CACCF of ulcer. Dey lie small small
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Howmon:
HardMirror:
Lol
Chill and watch, I am still observing this howmon of a guy. He could be playing mischief himself. He claims he does not know a single name I mentioned and he claims he graduated from futa. Smh. Christians can be terrible people. All in the name of fighting for God, they wld lie.
Howmon,...hmmm... Anyway let me assume you are who you are and let's see how our offline correspondence goes.
here is a blurred identity version of a snapshot of my email convo with hardmirror

cc
Seun
TheSixthSense
damogul
NPComplete
Suprementos
analice107
raphieMontella
jcjoof
Gombs
hopefulLandlord
jonbellion
OneManLegion

Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by jonbellion(m): 11:25am On Nov 25, 2016
Lol this is just like GOT when tyrion lannister was on trial
Please permit a trial by combat if need be smiley
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Nobody: 11:26am On Nov 25, 2016
What's going on? Where are the definitive statements from the alumni like 'I was a member of CAC campus fellowship FUTA 2010 and I don't know Hardmirror and the person he claimed died' instead of random comments. Hardmirror you guys shouldn't make this longer than it already is.

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