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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 12:28pm On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
@ bolded, excuse me. In what mail? I am yet to receive a reply from Howmon time is 12:15pm now. So what mail? Are you howmon? And why shld howmon choose to share my mail with you even before replying me?
You contacted Howmon offline and then quickly came back on here to post this below

HardMirror

Lol
Chill and watch, I am still observing this howmon of a guy. He could be playing mischief himself. He claims he does not know a single name I mentioned and he claims he graduated from futa. Smh. Christians can be terrible people. All in the name of fighting for God, they wld lie.
Howmon,...hmmm... Anyway let me assume you are who you are and let's see how our offline correspondence goes.
You quickly tried to discredit him even before he said anything and i am sure that was what pushed him to post your email convo with him.

You tried creating a window of escape by first trying to label him before his enquiry went too far.

Meanwhile you are wasting precious time. 6pm is your deadline to produce that name so get busy with "asking around"!
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by urahara(m): 12:29pm On Nov 25, 2016
jonbellion:
All these people lying and disgracing the athiest community sef angry
You are on your own oo
The matter never dey conclusive na grin

May we just dey siddon dey watch
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 12:29pm On Nov 25, 2016
TheSixthSense:
He is clearly dishonest and I cannot be convinced otherwise. For someone that insisted that the christian should stand for truth and his refusal for posting the name was for ethical reasons. Imagine the tone disparity between the email and his voice here in the forum. Erratic memory indeed, for someone that he constantly referred to as brother who had died from ulcer from fasting but he can't even remember his name or even describe him. Even pa Buhari didn't forget VP Osunbade's name completely cheesy grin cheesy grin What else Mr Hardmirror can't you remember? Praying for at least 6 hours, fasting for more days in a year, converting over 300 people, word of knowledge, speaking in tongues...casting demons? The extent people go seeking relevance. If only NL pays for views and comments, he would have made bank with his threads but he did all these for free. Na wa.
Howmon, wld it not have been better to post the mail here? That would have been fairer. Now I am suspicious of all these folks claiming to be caccfites. Howmon could be damogul for all I know now. I understand the conspiracy clearly now. If you folks think I would go into hiding, you are all dreaming. Howmon, pretending to be fair, but having a conspiracy with his fellow deluded party here. Glad damogul does not know how to talk so he has exposed you for who really you are and what really you aim to achieve.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 12:30pm On Nov 25, 2016
jonbellion:
All these people lying and disgracing the athiest community sef angry
You are on your own oo
Dont leave them all alone bro. You are part Atheist did you forget? lol grin grin
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 12:32pm On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
Howmon, wld it not have been better to post the mail here? That would have been fairer. Now I am suspicious of all these folks claiming to be caccfites. Howmon could be damogul for all I know now. I understand the conspiracy clearly now. If you folks think I would go into hiding, you are all dreaming. Howmon, pretending to be fair, but having a conspiracy with his fellow deluded party here. Glad damogul does not know how to talk so he has exposed you for who really you are and what really you aim to achieve.
I think you need spectacles. Howmon posted your email convo with him by himself and it had nothing to do with me. So how can we be the same people?

Are you now looking for another window of escape? Guy start asking around for that name. I have been more than fair on you
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 12:33pm On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
You contacted Howmon offline and then quickly came back on here to post this below



You quickly tried to discredit him even before he said anything and i am sure that was what pushed him to post your email convo with him.

You tried creating a window of escape by first trying to label him before his enquiry went too far.

Meanwhile you are wasting precious time. 6pm is your deadline to produce that name so get busy with "asking around"!
I won't even bother to get his name again. 6pm will pass, come and kill me if I don't provide the name. Are you howmon? I am so sure of my facts, even if I have lost the name. Let you all do your worse. My "Pastor to atheist" story stands and stands true. I am just getting started
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Howmon: 12:34pm On Nov 25, 2016
Here is a follow-up email from Mr. HardMirror.

I may no longer respond to talks on this issue. Thank you guys. Pls note my System's clock is an hour early. Mac Config bear with me.

cc
TheSixthSense
damogul
NPComplete
Suprementos
analice107
raphieMontella
jcjoof
Gombs
hopefulLandlord
jonbellion
OneManLegion

Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 12:35pm On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
I think you need spectacles. Howmon posted your email convo with him by himself and it had nothing to do with me. So how can we be the same people?

Are you now looking for another window of escape? Guy start asking around for that name. I have been more than fair on you
You have been fair? In what? Are you the one feeding me? Are you the one paying my bills? Even my parents can't say that to me talkless of you. I stand by my story, I will be here for a long time to come. Die if you want to
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 12:36pm On Nov 25, 2016
TheSixthSense:
He is clearly dishonest and I cannot be convinced otherwise. For someone that insisted that the christian should stand for truth and his refusal for posting the name was for ethical reasons. Imagine the tone disparity between the email and his voice here in the forum. Erratic memory indeed, for someone that he constantly referred to as brother who had died from ulcer from fasting but he can't even remember his name or even describe him. Even pa Buhari didn't forget VP Osunbade's name completely cheesy grin cheesy grin What else Mr Hardmirror can't you remember? Praying for at least 6 hours, fasting for more days in a year, converting over 300 people, word of knowledge, speaking in tongues...casting demons? The extent people go seeking relevance. If only NL pays for views and comments, he would have made bank with his threads but he did all these for free. Na wa.
This is what really got me in that his thread.

He was so passionate for Christ that him and his general Overseer FASTED FOR 70 DAYS FOR BOKO HARAM TO STOP KILLING CHRISTIANS but it did not stop. That is when he realized, there was no God.

A general overseer who organised a 70days fasting and prayer to overturn a prophecy.

From the start i knew Hardmirror was lying. He had not answered one question i posted to him, not even one. If he dares, he will just put his head on a noose.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by hopefulLandlord(op): 12:37pm On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
pls has anybody seen hopefullandlord anywhere?
I'm here now, been busy
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:37pm On Nov 25, 2016
Tdada:
I attended cac campus fellowship FUTA, even though I passed out in 2007, I'm well abreast of developments there till now. Please mention the name of the person in question. That shouldn't be too hard I suppose
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by jonbellion(m): 12:38pm On Nov 25, 2016
Howmon:
Here is a follow-up email from Mr. HardMirror.

I may no longer respond to talks on this issue. Thank you guys. Pls note my System's clock is an hour early. Mac Config bear with me.

cc
TheSixthSense
damogul
NPComplete
Suprementos
analice107
raphieMontella
jcjoof
Gombs
hopefulLandlord
jonbellion
OneManLegion
chaii!
Tsk tsk tsk
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:38pm On Nov 25, 2016
gombs

Oh... He's got nothing to share, because it's mere lies.

I dared him severally to provide details of the Osogbo ones, he didn't.

He broke rule 8 and so did Seun..


In all fairness, they both deserve a lengthy ban. Funny, because this is not the First time this faux pas is done... And if not treated accordingly, would have a repeat.

If this was done to the Muslims, and Seun moved it to the front page, and it turns out to be a lie, let me give y'all possible scenario

1. He'd have long apologized or a "press release"
2. The above won't be necessary because he'd not have pushed it to the front page in the first place.
3. To avoid being lynched by them Muslims who could easily trace him, (y'all know they'd just tag it blasphemy)... That's the reason for reason 2

See how it goes? 3,2,1...


Well,i have seen mails of those who vehemently denied any death as hardmirror's claimed... I also smoothly wondered how all those Atheists and Muslims who had a filed day on that thread of his would bow their heads in shame.

Looking at it squarely, nairaland provides very weak environment for the respect of Christianity... Especially by Atheists who delusionally think they are an opposite of Christianity.

#EnoughIsEnough
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 12:39pm On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
I won't even bother to get his name again. 6pm will pass, come and kill me if I don't provide the name. Are you howmon? I am so sure of my facts, even if I have lost the name. Let you all do your worse. My "Pastor to atheist" story stands and stands true. I am just getting started
Hahahahaha our very "ig"noble atheist community i hope you can all read for yourselves. He is now making confessional statements and shifting from not only forgetting the name but now declaring he will not even bother with providing this name.....

So lets get to thinking shall we? Could this just be possible that its because nothing of such ever happened?

Could it be because in todays world a simple name could be checked up on especially in the face of facebook and co? Oh by the way CACCF has like 3 alumnus on facebook and we have heard that they also have a whatsapp group so this is easy to check hence why he is declining?

Atheists are said to be critical thinkers. So here is a good thread to apply your critical thinking collectively and not selectively.

6pm Mr Mirror!
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:40pm On Nov 25, 2016
iRyan:
Everyone here should calm down and take a chill pill. Hardmirror may have told a lie, but that shouldn't be a reason to rescind his story as every human is guilty of the same when they tell a story.
Everyone has sometime squeezed in a lie or two into their stories to make it fascinating and mesmerizing
grin grin chilling but when a christian makes some foolish action hell is let loose so much for single standard grin
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by urahara(m): 12:41pm On Nov 25, 2016
cry cry cry cry cry cry cry
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 12:41pm On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
You have been fair? In what? Are you the one feeding me? Are you the one paying my bills? Even my parents can't say that to me talkless of you. I stand by my story, I will be here for a long time to come. Die if you want to
grin grin grin Geriatrics!!
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by jonbellion(m): 12:43pm On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
grin grin grin Geriatrics!!
Mr Sherlock
If only you alive during jack the ripper's reign of terror
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:44pm On Nov 25, 2016
raphieMontella:
the bolded is what i dont understand about the christians here..
They are jumping upandan but real pastors do deconvert daily...
as athiest like you having jumping upandan ... they should deconvert and not contradict themselves like hardmirror that medical/pschological sciences is supernatural c angry grin grin
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Nobody: 12:45pm On Nov 25, 2016
My friend, the email correspondence was posted here for all to see. Was it not you? are you no longer the ASF evangelism coordinator? Exposing me or anyone else for who I really am is not the issue. I started out believing you especially when this thread looked like everyone was calling you out without anything substantial but apparently I was caught in your deception. Nobody is against you, certainly not me. You are not the first or last pastor (as you made everyone believe) to become an atheist. However, you put yourself in the spotlight, you got your moment of fame and acknowledgement but right now, like someone commented, you let the unbelieving community down because even atheists like to believe that they are honest, more so than religion adherents - you even mentioned this on one of your comments. You need to apologise to the people you have insulted here in the course of this your fictional roller coaster and also the atheists you inspired and have let down.
HardMirror:
Howmon, wld it not have been better to post the mail here? That would have been fairer. Now I am suspicious of all these folks claiming to be caccfites. Howmon could be damogul for all I know now. I understand the conspiracy clearly now. If you folks think I would go into hiding, you are all dreaming. Howmon, pretending to be fair, but having a conspiracy with his fellow deluded party here. Glad damogul does not know how to talk so he has exposed you for who really you are and what really you aim to achieve.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 12:47pm On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
You have been fair? In what? Are you the one feeding me? Are you the one paying my bills? Even my parents can't say that to me talkless of you. I stand by my story, I will be here for a long time to come. Die if you want to
Stand by which story biko?

Hahahahahshahahahahaha. Guy everything you claimed are lies. I started telling you this then, and am still telling you now.

When you are done here, answer my questions. They are not related to the name of the dead guy.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by jonbellion(m): 12:48pm On Nov 25, 2016
I'm not a christian but less lets be honest this is a lie. Maybe when he went for the fellowships he was constantly sleeping then he now DREANT of a member dying. Infact he DREAMT the entire story up

Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 12:50pm On Nov 25, 2016
jonbellion:
Mr Sherlock
If only you alive during jack the ripper's reign of terror
My Brother Geriatrics is linked to Alzheimer and dementia which is simply memory loss which HardMirror seems to be suffering from all of a sudden. Perhaps he has selective amnesia but he seems to be adamant that he does not with this person he says died yet he cannot remember the name.

This is 2016 and he remembers names of everyone else and dates and locations and events but someone does not remember this particular name even though he tagged the person as a "brother" and someone also extremely popular like him claimed to be.

CACCF members fortunately have stepped up to deny his claims and he is still ranting. In saner climes he would have been in a straight Jacket by now.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Nobody: 12:51pm On Nov 25, 2016
cheesy grin cheesy grin Honestly, I wasn't expecting this outcome. I'm having a filled day here cheesy grin cheesy grin
HardMirror:
I won't even bother to get his name again. 6pm will pass, come and kill me if I don't provide the name. Are you howmon? I am so sure of my facts, even if I have lost the name. Let you all do your worse. My "Pastor to atheist" story stands and stands true. I am just getting started

Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 12:52pm On Nov 25, 2016
Howmon:
Here is a follow-up email from Mr. HardMirror.

I may no longer respond to talks on this issue. Thank you guys. Pls note my System's clock is an hour early. Mac Config bear with me.

cc
TheSixthSense
damogul
NPComplete
Suprementos
analice107
raphieMontella
jcjoof
Gombs
hopefulLandlord
jonbellion
OneManLegion
You want me to take you serious after you boldly claimed you don't know anyone I mentioned in my thread? And you want me to take you serious? You are not serious.

You folks have been labeling me a liar and you are being mischievious saying you know none I mentioned. To what end did you do that?


I stand by my words and you can all do your worse if you think that is what would make God happy with you and reward you for fighting for him.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:52pm On Nov 25, 2016
Howmon:
The names He mentioned already are not name of people I know. The CACCF caught my attention has it was my fellowship in school.
broza why u de throw bomb like boko haram for hardmirror territory.... abeg abeg i take God beg you to hold on abeg grin grin
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by raphieMontella: 12:53pm On Nov 25, 2016
uvalued:
as athiest like you having jumping upandan ... they should deconvert and not contradict themselves like hardmirror that medical/pschological sciences is supernatural c angry grin grin
did you say something?
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by jonbellion(m): 12:53pm On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
My Brother Geriatrics is linked to Alzheimer and dementia which is simply memory loss which HardMirror seems to be suffering from all of a sudden. Perhaps he has selective amnesia but he seems to be adamant that he does not with this person he says died yet he cannot remember the name.

This is 2016 and he remembers names of everyone else and dates and locations and events but someone does not remember this particular name even though he tagged the person as a "brother" and someone also extremely popular like him claimed to be.

CACCF members fortunately have stepped up to deny his claims and he is still ranting. In saner climes he would have been in a straight Jacket by now.
What surprised me was when he was here saying he knew the name but couldn't tell. Then in the mail he said he couldn't remember . I'm pretty sure you'd be able to remember such an event if you were in a position he claimed
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 12:53pm On Nov 25, 2016
jonbellion:
I'm not a christian but less lets be honest this is a lie. Maybe when he went for the fellowships he was constantly sleeping then he now DREANT of a member dying. Infact he DREAMT the entire story up
Now this right here is true CRITICAL THINKING! In one word its called Hallucination! Some Hallucinations can appear very real you know.

If this was a Christian on trial i believe this would have been the conclusion of the Atheist community so lets play a role reversal shall we?
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Nobody: 12:54pm On Nov 25, 2016
Hardlice in Nairaland grin cheesy grin cheesy
jonbellion:
I'm not a christian but less lets be honest this is a lie. Maybe when he went for the fellowships he was constantly sleeping then he now DREANT of a member dying. Infact he DREAMT the entire story up
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 12:56pm On Nov 25, 2016
HardMirror:
You want me to take you serious after you boldly claimed you don't know anyone I mentioned in my thread? And you want me to take you serious? You are not serious.

You folks have been labeling me a liar and you are being mischievious saying you know none I mentioned. To what end did you do that?


I stand by my words and you can all do your worse if you think that is what would make God happy with you and reward you for fighting for him.
Stand by your words by dropping proof of your words oga. "Ask around" and get us the name. Shouting everyone down only helps in raising more dust. I am giving you the opportunity to do the right thing which is why i gave you till 6pm. I can be nice like that. grin grin
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by damogul: 12:57pm On Nov 25, 2016
jonbellion:
What surprised me was when he was here saying he knew the name but couldn't tell. Then in the mail he said he couldn't remember . I'm pretty sure you'd be able to remember such an event if you were in a position he claimed
Why would i forget the name of someone as allegedly popular as i was and was a brother in the ministry? I would never forget such a name as it would be part of my history.

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