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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 7:01pm On Dec 01, 2016
Mindfulness:
The consumer goods will be cheaper and developed countries will be forced to create new industries. wink

And how will the jobless developed country citizens be able to afford it, when they dont have jobs. If there are loopholes to ship jobs out all new industries too will also ship out their jobs

Like Trump said, Ship out jobs all you want, but when you are bringing in your product to America you have to pay a 45% tax on it. So your goods wont have any price advantage over those who kept their jobs here

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 7:17pm On Dec 01, 2016
raumdeuter:


And how will the jobless developed country citizens be able to afford it, when they dont have jobs. If their are loopholes to ship jobs out all new industries too will also ship out their jobs

How will they be able to make a living on low wages? Some Americans have two-three jobs and can barely make a living already. In some other developed countries, the labour markets have been deregulated in favour of business owners and in such a way that people despite having a full-time job rely on welfare.

Additionally, it is interesting to note that unemployment affects unskilled workers the most in developed countries where the unemployment rate is relatively low. So instead of creating jobs that involve bad working conditions and pay so badly that people are barely able to make a living, it would be more useful to upgrade people's education and qualify them for other jobs that are available. Many business owners in developed countries complain about the lack of skilled employees.

It is also wrong to assume that all companies want to run their business in developing countries. Outsourcing is done to cut costs but many business owners prefer a solid infrastructure in a stable economic and political climate. Moreover, many business owners depend on skilled professionals, which they are more likely to find in developed countries.

If developed countries miss the opportunity to upgrade on people's education and skills, developing nations - if capable of catching up - will make the offer sooner or later.

One of the future industries are robots. People will have to be trained to operate and maintain them. To think that you can bring back old industries by means of protectionism and isolationism is delusional. It has never worked and cannot work in a globalized world.

Liek Trumo said, Ship out jobs all you want, but when you are bringing in your product you have to pay a 45% tax on it. So your goods wont have any price advantage over those who kept their jobs here

Good, then those who think that his policies will serve them will have to put up with lower wages and bad working conditions just like the Indonesian workers whose lungs have been blackened by the smoke rising from the burning of gums used to manufacture Nike shoes. wink

And consumers will have to buy less and if they buy less, the companies will have to produce less and will need fewer employees.

The plan cannot work out but you never know with Donald. He is good for a surprise so we will see. wink
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 7:21pm On Dec 01, 2016
Trump supporters do live in an alternative universe.

“Trump has endangered the jobs of workers who were previously safe in the United States,” Sanders wrote. “Why? Because he has signaled to every corporation in America that they can threaten to offshore jobs in exchange for business-friendly tax benefits and incentives.”- Senator Sanders.

There are some things some of you shouldn't defend.You only appear foolish and in theory very dumb.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 7:27pm On Dec 01, 2016
Wisconsin recount ongoing.This is from Dane County.Big pile is Hillary.Pretty liberal county though.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 7:36pm On Dec 01, 2016
[size=28pt]Mexico disappointed at Carrier agreement to keep jobs in US[/size]

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Officials in the Mexican state of Nuevo Leon expressed disappointment Wednesday at Carrier Corp.'s announcement it will keep hundreds of jobs in the United States rather than send them south of the border.

Carrier said it had made a deal with President-elect Donald Trump to keep the jobs at its plant in Indiana.

Carrier currently operates one plant in Nuevo Leon and has built but not yet occupied another one there as part of a planned $200 million expansion.

"The implications are very serious, not only for Nuevo Leon, but for Carrier," Sen. Marcela Guerra said.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/30/the-associated-press-mexico-disappointed-at-carrier-agreement-to-keep-jobs-in-us.html

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 9:35pm On Dec 01, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Wisconsin recount ongoing.This is from Dane County.Big pile is Hillary.Pretty liberal county though.

We shouldn't report one side of the news nah, let's balance things a bit, alright?

Pennsylvania blocked Stein
JUDGE THREW IT OUT OF COURT!

As most people are still trying to figure out exactly what Jill Stein is doing and why she's doing it, a judge in Montgomery County Pennsylvania, just north of Philadelphia, has decided he's seen enough. After hearing arguments from attorneys representing Jill Stein's campaign and the Montgomery County Board of Elections, Judge Bernard A. Moore dismissed the petitions of voters in 78 precincts to recount votes or forensically analyze voting machines due a lack of evidence and improperly filed petitions. Per The Times Herald of Montgomery County:

"What we keep going back to is that our voting machines are not connected to the internet," said board of elections Solicitor Nicole Forzato. "Montgomery County takes great, great pride in being concerned about its infrastructure for IT generally, and they have gone through a vigorous process to make sure our technology general, including voter services technology and the voting machines are safe and secure to use."

MY COMMENT: As I said (after I figured it was too late) Jill Stein had to get over 25,000 petition signatures for the recount. In the end, it was harder to do than even I thought. Pennsylvania has an immune system. For that reason and more, they did not even hear her case, they just gave her the boot!

Montgomery county has a population of 812,000 people. This was a MAJOR rejection!

See: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/11/30/judge-denies-stein-campaign-request-for-recount-in-montgomery-county/

AND THIS:

Wisconsin hand recount formally rejected
"Madison - Green Party candidate Jill Stein paid $3.5 million Tuesday to clear the way for Wisconsin's presidential vote recount but had a judge reject her lawsuit to require all Wisconsin counties to do the recount by hand.

Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn said the effort to force the hand recount - which was backed by Democrat Hillary Clinton’s campaign - did not meet the state's legal standard for prohibiting the use of machines in the recount, saying that the two campaigns did not show a hand recount, though more thorough, was necessary or show there was a clear and convincing evidence of fraud or other problems.

Bailey-Rihn said there were good reasons to do a hand recount but no legal basis for her to mandate it.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/29/steins-recount-headed-court-tuesday/94598740/

My comment: HA HA HA!

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 9:54pm On Dec 01, 2016
stanech, I have some good news for you grin grin

Sarah Palin is under consideration to be either the next Secretary of Veterans Affairs, or Secretary of the Interior.

Kayleigh McEnany is also under consideration to be White House Press Secretary.

Can't wait to watch Sarah Palin's confirmation hearings. It would be entertaining for sure cheesy

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 10:01pm On Dec 01, 2016
CFCman:
stanech, I have some good news for you grin grin

Sarah Palin is under consideration to be either the next Secretary of Veterans Affairs, or Secretary of the Interior.

Kayleigh McEnany is also under consideration to be White House Press Secretary.

Can't wait to watch Sarah Palin's confirmation hearings. It would be entertaining for sure cheesy

abioooo

Sarah is a class act..

I would have prefered Laura Ingraham for. press sec. but i trust Trmp would get the best

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 10:23pm On Dec 01, 2016
mojeer678:


We shouldn't report one side of the news nah, let's balance things a bit, alright?

Pennsylvania blocked Stein
JUDGE THREW IT OUT OF COURT!

As most people are still trying to figure out exactly what Jill Stein is doing and why she's doing it, a judge in Montgomery County Pennsylvania, just north of Philadelphia, has decided he's seen enough. After hearing arguments from attorneys representing Jill Stein's campaign and the Montgomery County Board of Elections, Judge Bernard A. Moore dismissed the petitions of voters in 78 precincts to recount votes or forensically analyze voting machines due a lack of evidence and improperly filed petitions. Per The Times Herald of Montgomery County:

"What we keep going back to is that our voting machines are not connected to the internet," said board of elections Solicitor Nicole Forzato. "Montgomery County takes great, great pride in being concerned about its infrastructure for IT generally, and they have gone through a vigorous process to make sure our technology general, including voter services technology and the voting machines are safe and secure to use."

MY COMMENT: As I said (after I figured it was too late) Jill Stein had to get over 25,000 petition signatures for the recount. In the end, it was harder to do than even I thought. Pennsylvania has an immune system. For that reason and more, they did not even hear her case, they just gave her the boot!

Montgomery county has a population of 812,000 people. This was a MAJOR rejection!

See: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/11/30/judge-denies-stein-campaign-request-for-recount-in-montgomery-county/

AND THIS:

Wisconsin hand recount formally rejected
"Madison - Green Party candidate Jill Stein paid $3.5 million Tuesday to clear the way for Wisconsin's presidential vote recount but had a judge reject her lawsuit to require all Wisconsin counties to do the recount by hand.

Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn said the effort to force the hand recount - which was backed by Democrat Hillary Clinton’s campaign - did not meet the state's legal standard for prohibiting the use of machines in the recount, saying that the two campaigns did not show a hand recount, though more thorough, was necessary or show there was a clear and convincing evidence of fraud or other problems.

Bailey-Rihn said there were good reasons to do a hand recount but no legal basis for her to mandate it.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/29/steins-recount-headed-court-tuesday/94598740/

My comment: HA HA HA!
Valerian is still hoping for a late night drama lol

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 10:24pm On Dec 01, 2016
stanech:


abioooo

Sarah is a class act..

I would have prefered Laura Ingraham for. press sec. but i trust Trmp would get the best
Yes o! Go Trump

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 10:25pm On Dec 01, 2016
raumdeuter:
[size=28pt]Mexico disappointed at Carrier agreement to keep jobs in US[/size]

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Officials in the Mexican state of Nuevo Leon expressed disappointment Wednesday at Carrier Corp.'s announcement it will keep hundreds of jobs in the United States rather than send them south of the border.

Carrier said it had made a deal with President-elect Donald Trump to keep the jobs at its plant in Indiana.

Carrier currently operates one plant in Nuevo Leon and has built but not yet occupied another one there as part of a planned $200 million expansion.

"The implications are very serious, not only for Nuevo Leon, but for Carrier," Sen. Marcela Guerra said.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/30/the-associated-press-mexico-disappointed-at-carrier-agreement-to-keep-jobs-in-us.html
Trump means business, already making significant moves.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 10:36pm On Dec 01, 2016
obixcel:
Valerian is still hoping for a late night drama lol

He/She's a joker.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 10:41pm On Dec 01, 2016
obixcel:
Trump means business, already making significant moves.

Honestly, it's the lamestream media who demonised Trump and painted a horrid picture of the man.

People slag Trump for what they thought he said, the media chopped off the remainder of his sentence as it didn't fit their rhetoric / narrative.
He said "We should stop allowing Muslim immigrants in, until we can verify who they are and where they come from" All he's calling for is a proper vetting system, the Wahhabi Muslims. the jihadists are the ones who are creating all the trouble in ME and it's spreading.

All the 'puppets' the US placed in countries; Tunisia, Egypt, Iraq and Libya are / were Muslim Brotherhood pushing Sharia Law, which is why Egypt and Tunisia got rid ASAP.

Quite a lot of what he said was taken out of context and people just didn't bother to research.

The big threat to his health is: He's keeping jobs in America at the same time he's questioning vaccines at the same time he's attacking the social programming in schools and legitimizing home schooling, at the same time he's killing off the TPP, kicking out illegals, destroying obamacare, cleaning up American intelligence, taxing the rich, attacking the Federal Reserve, spelling doom for the media monopoly, issuing death threats to the EPA - an outright MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN FANTASY and the shadow government wants NONE OF IT. If Trump makes it, it will be only be with the blessings and breath of life from God, every last demon out there wants him DEAD Lucas keep bringing up Alzheimer in Trump's family as if he's an expert on genetics and VSteel keeps encouraging civil disobedience blatantly, stoking hate and calling for riots and I see that as a huge problem - they will stop at NOTHING to eliminate him. We had better pray.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 10:53pm On Dec 01, 2016
When DC residents heard a right wing extremist was moving in.They decided to remind him where he is coming to.Donald lost here by 96%,both he and Darth Vader will be taunted and booed for their awful record during their short four year stay in DC.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 10:56pm On Dec 01, 2016
Donald picks retired Gen James Mattis for Defense Sec.Congress would need to pass a waiver to clear his nomination.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 11:25pm On Dec 01, 2016
mojeer678:


Honestly, it's the lamestream media who demonised Trump and painted a horrid picture of the man.

People slag Trump for what they thought he said, the media chopped off the remainder of his sentence as it didn't fit their rhetoric / narrative.
He said "We should stop allowing Muslim immigrants in, until we can verify who they are and where they come from" All he's calling for is a proper vetting system, the Wahhabi Muslims. the jihadists are the ones who are creating all the trouble in ME and it's spreading.

All the 'puppets' the US placed in countries; Tunisia, Egypt, Iraq and Libya are / were Muslim Brotherhood pushing Sharia Law, which is why Egypt and Tunisia got rid ASAP.

Quite a lot of what he said was taken out of context and people just didn't bother to research.

The big threat to his health is: He's keeping jobs in America at the same time he's questioning vaccines at the same time he's attacking the social programming in schools and legitimizing home schooling, at the same time he's killing off the TPP, kicking out illegals, destroying obamacare, cleaning up American intelligence, taxing the rich, attacking the Federal Reserve, spelling doom for the media monopoly, issuing death threats to the EPA - an outright MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN FANTASY and the shadow government wants NONE OF IT. If Trump makes it, it will be only be with the blessings and breath of life from God, every last demon out there wants him DEAD Lucas keep bringing up Alzheimer in Trump's family as if he's an expert on genetics and VSteel keeps encouraging civil disobedience blatantly, stoking hate and calling for riots and I see that as a huge problem - they will stop at NOTHING to eliminate him. We had better pray.
Of course the lamestream's demonisation of Trump backfired, the more they try, the more they fail and the stronger he gets.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:27pm On Dec 01, 2016
CFCman:
stanech, I have some good news for you grin grin

Sarah Palin is under consideration to be either the next Secretary of Veterans Affairs, or Secretary of the Interior.

Kayleigh McEnany is also under consideration to be White House Press Secretary.

Can't wait to watch Sarah Palin's confirmation hearings. It would be entertaining for sure cheesy
The brainless Palin is not fit to be an Alderwoman in Chicago talk less of a cabinet position. She needs to go back to the wildness of Alaska. Some of Trumpy appointees are getting worrisome.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:29pm On Dec 01, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Donald picks retired Gen James Mattis for Defense Sec.Congress would need to pass a waiver to clear his nomination.
I think the waiver is 7 years after retirement. He was a good leader though. Will give Trump a credit for that if he makes it happen.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:31pm On Dec 01, 2016
ValerianSteel:
When DC residents heard a right wing extremist was moving in.They decided to remind him where he is coming to.Donald lost here by 96%,both he and Darth Vader will be taunted and booed for their awful record during their short four year stay in DC.
My man. That's funny like hell. DC is overwhelmingly black and democratic city.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 11:54pm On Dec 01, 2016
What's with the rants President Trump gave today while talking about saving 1k job? Enough about winning the election now grin Must he reminds the world he won on every speech? Lol

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:10am On Dec 02, 2016
Lucasbalo:
The brainless Palin is not fit to be an Alderwoman in Chicago talk less of a cabinet position. She needs to go back to the wildness of Alaska. Some of Trumpy appointees are getting worrisome.

says the guy that voted for a carrear criminal hillary..

judge this admin after 1 year
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 1:12am On Dec 02, 2016
I like Sarah Palin, she is tough now.
We need iron ladies.
So far okay with the women on his list.
Lucasbalo:
The brainless Palin is not fit to be an Alderwoman in Chicago talk less of a cabinet position. She needs to go back to the wildness of Alaska. Some of Trumpy appointees are getting worrisome.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:13am On Dec 02, 2016
moronic liberals

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:15am On Dec 02, 2016
fact

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:22am On Dec 02, 2016
right

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:24am On Dec 02, 2016
Two African Americans that gets to keep their jobs.
already working for african americans he isnt even president yet

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:31am On Dec 02, 2016
armyofone:
I like Sarah Palin, she is tough now.
We need iron ladies.
So far okay with the women on his list.
Not even sure she will pass through the senate confirmation.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 2:37am On Dec 02, 2016
Donald hired some very expensive lawyers to stop Michigan recount.

For someone who believes there are illegal votes,he sure appears to not want those votes uncovered or maybe there's something we don't know.

Also from Dane County,Wisconsin officials find presidential votes that counting machine missed on election night and some votes flagged for unknown reasons,some of them have been hand counted.Most of these votes are Clinton votes.

Dane County is a democratic stronghold.Nothing too surprising to tip the result.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 2:38am On Dec 02, 2016
"We will build a Great Wall on our southern border" - Trump
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 2:40am On Dec 02, 2016
CFCman:
"We will build a Great Wall on our southern border" - Trump
I got tired already,switched off the tv.He's still acting like his Campaign self.It hasn't fully sunk in that he is going to be President come January.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:44am On Dec 02, 2016
stanech:
fact
The Kool Aid you are drinking is damaging your brain. This is what Obama met when he came in on January 20, 2009. Down Jones was 6,736 now 19,000+. Unemployment was 10% now is 4.9%. Uninsured Adults 18% now 8.9%. American cars sold 10.4 millions now over 20 millions.Deficit of the GDP was 9.8% now it's 2.5%. Consumer Deficit was 37.7% now 98.7%. S & P, Nasdaq and The other financial indexes are in record numbers. Clowns like you who knows nothing about the economic situations of a country you do not have input in will just throw out some right wing garbage. Obama is leaving trump with a very good and bumbling economy unlike the one George W left for Obama. Counter my points with your usual right wing racist garbage.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 2:44am On Dec 02, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Not even sure she will pass through the senate confirmation.
"I can see Russia from my house" grin grin grin

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