₦airaland Forum

Ontarget:
I repeat that underpopulation is far better off than overpopulation. At least in Japan the problem they are facing is just simply a little economic issue. You can't compare it with a case of overpopulation where you have many hungry mouths desperate to survive. Poverty and death rate rises due to inability of the existing infrastructure to care for the large numbers. Crime rate goes high due to desperation to survive at all cost. Like I said before, the problem IS NOT really the big population but the fact that Africa currently lacks the capacity to support a large population. Since the capacity is not there it is totally foolish to allow the population to keep growing rapidly. Just because Africa has a large land and resources doesn't necessarily mean it is a go ahead to breed like rabbits. You want every inch of African land to be occupied first before you realise there is no more space?

Suit yourself; with every element on the periodic table, every vegetation except the tundra, every food grown, every resource ever needed, every landscape; and still you think we must cut our population, peace be unto you with your eugenics

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
I rest my case, "negative population is better"; tell that to Japan trying to prop up consumer spending and buying back Government bond stupendously while tending to negative yields; negative population doesn't help a 21st century capitalist society, the invisible hand of Darwin is waiting to another the human population again. The again you continuously measure wealth by fiat currency; should all the fishes in the river die and all the water contaminated would you realize that paper money is an illusion. Africa has vast land and resources, and the last thing we need is population control, we need science, technology, equitable distribution of resources and wealth, a better philosophical society, and not population control.

@bold Really?

Your post is simplistic and devoid of real mental gymnastics.

China's economy is being driven by its immense population, likewise India and the USA.

Here in Nigeria, we would rather hang the blame of our inefficiency on unrelated matters.

China's population is over a billion, ditto India. Nigeria's population is just 150million and we are shouting.


The same way some people will shout that Nigeria is too big to be governed but forget that there are states in the United States that are way bigger than Nigeria in landmass.

Our population is an advantage, only to a government that knows its onions.

johnson232:
@bold Really?

and what will population control achieve, less street urchins, less political foot soldiers, less child soldiers for LRA and Congolese tribal war Lords, less illiterate children to roam emptier streets, or less gentlemen on the highway to rob a grave silenced highway. Just tell me what blessing population control would bestowe upon us and close the wide technological and developmental gap we face; all social engineering projects like population control are doomed to fail and go wrong, because we are all evolutionary beings with limitless capabilities. we should be concerned about building stronger institutions and equitable distribution of our nature bestowed vast wealths and conquer the earth which is ours. Population control isn't man's business, never has and shouldn't be.

Another person who thinks Nigeria's problems has anything to do with population. SMH

ElsonMorali:
Your post is simplistic and devoid of real mental gymnastics.

China's economy is being driven by its immense population, likewise India and the USA.

Here in Nigeria, we would rather hang the blame of our inefficiency on unrelated matters.

China's population is over a billion, ditto India. Nigeria's population is just 150million and we are shouting.


The same way some people will shout that Nigeria is too big to be governed but forget that there are states in the United States that are way bigger than Nigeria in landmass.

Our population is an advantage, only to a government that knows its onions.

I'm willing to bet my brand new shoes that 4 out 5 people who read your comment never thought about this.

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
I rest my case, "negative population is better"; tell that to Japan trying to prop up consumer spending and buying back Government bond stupendously while tending to negative yields; negative population doesn't help a 21st century capitalist society, the invisible hand of Darwin is waiting to another the human population again. The again you continuously measure wealth by fiat currency; should all the fishes in the river die and all the water contaminated would you realize that paper money is an illusion. Africa has vast land and resources, and the last thing we need is population control, we need science, technology, equitable distribution of resources and wealth, a better philosophical society, and not population control.

I totally agree with you.
We do not need population control.
The greatest resource of a country is not oil, gold etc, but the UNLIMITLESS POTENTIAL OF THE HUMAN MIND. What we need is a reorientation of the Nigerian's mindset.
More people should go back to the land. No person should graduate and sit home looking for a job for a gazillion years. They should go and farm, even if on a small scale (for self sustenance). Before colonialism, large families worked the land and fed themselves, but now everybody is waiting for Oru Oyibo, excessively dependent on paper money, while wringing their hands "helplessly".
Verily, I say onto you, that even if the population of Nigeria is reduced by half, but the mindset is not changed, the problem will remain the same.
So no, population control is not the answer

ElsonMorali:
Your post is simplistic and devoid of real mental gymnastics.

China's economy is being driven by its immense population, likewise India and the USA.

Here in Nigeria, we would rather hang the blame of our inefficiency on unrelated matters.

China's population is over a billion, ditto India. Nigeria's population is just 150million and we are shouting.


The same way some people will shout that Nigeria is too big to be governed but forget that there are states in the United States that are way bigger than Nigeria in landmass.

Our population is an advantage, only to a government that knows its onions.

100% correct. Our population is definitely an advantage

missjo:
I'm willing to bet my brand new shoes that 4 out 5 people who read your comment never thought about this.

I'd bet my next month's pay that you're probably right. Lol

ElsonMorali:
Your post is simplistic and devoid of real mental gymnastics.

China's economy is being driven by its immense population, likewise India and the USA.

Here in Nigeria, we would rather hang the blame of our inefficiency on unrelated matters.

China's population is over a billion, ditto India. Nigeria's population is just 150million and we are shouting.


The same way some people will shout that Nigeria is too big to be governed but forget that there are states in the United States that are way bigger than Nigeria in landmass.

Our population is an advantage, only to a government that knows its onions.

Another person is trying to cite China as an example why we shouldn't bother about our population growth. Like I mentioned to a poster initially, the real problem IS NOT just the population growth, but the fact that there is not enough infrastructure in place to care for that multitude of human beings. Why reproduce carelessly when the current welfare system in Nigeria will not accommodate the extra numbers. In a situation like this the wise thing to is cut down the rate of reproduction till there are existing infrastructure in place to accommodate more and then reap the advantage of a big population. The China you are using as an example has a much bigger economy than Nigeria. So it can Carr for much more people. But this isnt the case with Nigeria

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
and what will population control achieve, less street urchins, less political foot soldiers, less child soldiers for LRA and Congolese tribal war Lords, less illiterate children to roam emptier streets, or less gentlemen on the highway to rob a grave silenced highway. Just tell me what blessing population control would bestowe upon us and close the wide technological and developmental gap we face; all social engineering projects like population control are doomed to fail and go wrong, because we are all evolutionary beings with limitless capabilities. we should be concerned about building stronger institutions and equitable distribution of our nature bestowed vast wealths and conquer the earth which is ours. Population control isn't man's business, never has and shouldn't be.

From your perspective are you saying the population should be allowed to grow unchecked and the planet must definitely accommodate 10 trillion humans in future?

Phut:
I totally agree with you.
We do not need population control.
The greatest resource of a country is not oil, gold etc, but the UNLIMITLESS POTENTIAL OF THE HUMAN MIND. What we need is a reorientation of the Nigerian's mindset.
More people should go back to the land. No person should graduate and sit home looking for a job for a gazillion years. They should go and farm, even if on a small scale (for self sustenance). Before colonialism, large families worked the land and fed themselves, but now everybody is waiting for Oru Oyibo, excessively dependent on paper money, while wringing their hands "helplessly".
Verily, I say onto you, that even if the population of Nigeria is reduced by half, but the mindset is not changed, the problem will remain the same.
So no, population control is not the answer

So you think farming is what will cushion the effects of a rising population? If everyone of a large population farms have you asked yourself if there will be enough land available for the massive population to cultivate and also build their homes on? Is food the only thing today's modern humans need to survive? Have you asked yourself if there will be enough natural resources or raw materials to provide clothes, phones, computers, furnitures and every other manufactured products humans needs? In order words you think the planet can contain an infinite number of people because you still see bushes around that hasn't been occupied by humans?

Phut:
100% correct. Our population is definitely an advantage

Not in a place like Nigeria where the government is inefficient. Having a large population without putting some measures in place is going to be a total disaster. Good luck trying to be like China.

Dictatorship and enforced laws are anti-human and deprives one of freedom. Dear op, many have walked this line of argument but it has its limit. it is left for all individuals to decide on their own, personally I encourage a situation where one should give birth according to their ability to fend for them but it is never the place of humans to decide. Your mind is limited compared to the one that created us.

Ontarget:
Another person is trying to cite China as an example why we shouldn't bother about our population growth. Like I mentioned to a poster initially, the real problem IS NOT just the population growth, but the fact that there is not enough infrastructure in place to care for that multitude of human beings. Why reproduce carelessly when the current welfare system in Nigeria will not accommodate the extra numbers. In a situation like this the wise thing to is cut down the rate of reproduction till there are existing infrastructure in place to accommodate more and then reap the advantage of a big population. The China you are using as an example has a much bigger economy than Nigeria. So it can Carr for much more people. But this isnt the case with Nigeria

Do you think China had always been a big economy?

Answer this question, which came first, China's huge population or its huge economy?

ElsonMorali:
Do you think China had always been a big economy?

Answer this question, which came first, China's huge population or its huge economy?

Before they had the modern day definition of an economy they already had a lifestyle or pattern in place that enabled their large population to sustain itself. Our lifestyle is quite different from theirs. The fact that China could have billions doesn't necessarily mean Nigeria can comfortably have billions too.

Nigeria's population is currently only about 180 million at the moment and people are finding it difficult to survive. We have the worst form of poverty in the planet you can think of. Then what do you think will happen when our population rises to 1 billion?