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Pidgin2:
If you cheat me, I will take you to court whether you are Christian or not, this doesn't mean I don't forgive you rather it means I want to ensure that you are punished so that you do not repeat it again remember sin thrives when evil goes unpunished .

Although I will feel much better taking a Christian to a Christian court. If I steal 10 million from you, will you just report me to your pastor and let me go? What if I don't belong to your denomination and won't agree to see your pastor?

Also there are Christians like you who will take advantage of your meekness and benevolence for example he steals your three million naira and you forgive him because he is a christian but remember you ought to forgive him 70 times seven times. Therefore he continues stealing from you and you continue forgiving until you have nothing left for him to steal. People can be wicked like that so saying you will forgive him continuously in such a case may be good but you need to make him stop. So taking him to a court where spiritually minded people will judge the case according to biblical and standards is good.

Your spiritual understanding of the new testament is limited therefore you do not understand that God has indeed come to fulfill the old testament laws. What is your spiritual discernment of the punishment for a thief in the new testament? I'm sure you will skip the part where Paul says "He who doesn't work should not eat" all you think of is forgiveness. God gives us the Holy spirit and provides us with peace so that we make proper judgements.

Forget mosaic laws, those chosen to precide over our Christian courts will be men and women of God, known for their wisdom and service to God. If you don't like it I'm sorry but you may have to live with it

Inasmuch as I understand better now the reason for this court, I'm still pessimistic about it. What will now be the difference b/w these courts and regular courts?

Some sane churches like mine have what we call legal advicers. In a criminal case, in as much as you'll have to forgive your brother, the law must take its due course.

I understand that people have been trying to take advantage of the simplicity if Christianity. Yet it is not reason enough we should have a christian court.

We have the circular court already that doesn't forbid Christians from making a case if they have one.

You may want to talk of the corruption of regular courts and charges of lawyers. But believe me, if this christian court comes on, it will be worse than the regular courts, because the front line churches will hijack the system and judgements will be biases according to denominational blocks. Look at CAN for example, let's assume the leaders are the lawyers, what will be the faith of the common christian from a Pentecostal background? What about the catholics and witnesses, will they also have a different or separate court?

We used to have missionary schools for Christian children. The purpose was to enable less privileged christian children access education. Can we truely say of our missionary schools today that it still reflects this purpose?

udumosam23:
Inasmuch as I understand better now the reason for this court, I'm still pessimistic about it. What will now be the difference b/w these courts and regular courts?

Some sane churches like mine have what we call legal advicers. In a criminal case, in as much as you'll have to forgive your brother, the law must take its due course.

I understand that people have been trying to take advantage of the simplicity if Christianity. Yet it is not reason enough we should have a christian court.

We have the circular court already that doesn't forbid Christians from making a case if they have one.

You may want to talk of the corruption of regular courts and charges of lawyers. But believe me, if this christian court comes on, it will be worse than the regular courts, because the front line churches will hijack the system and judgements will be biases according to denominational blocks. Look at CAN for example, let's assume the leaders are the lawyers, what will be the faith of the common christian from a Pentecostal background? What about the catholics and witnesses, will they also have a different or separate court?

We used to have missionary schools for Christian children. The purpose was to enable less privileged christian children access education. Can we truely say of our missionary schools today that it still reflects this purpose?

You have raised valid points, as a Catholic I know the church will want Catholics to play a major role in the formation of such courts or possibly our own essclaistical courts as we are not part of CAN. That said, if Nigeria is truly a secular country then we cannot have religious courts but since we have them then we need to cater for all major religions including Christians

Right now we have customary and Sharia courts so why not ecclesiastical courts too. I think we are all forgetting that it is not mandatory to have your case be heard in these courts we all still have the option of using secular courts if we want

paradigmshift:
since your brain can't digest small write up ,so don't bother..

Yes my brain couldn't understand dat cos ur English is bad ? pls save the pride nd correct ur fk cos it doesn't fit in a public post

This country is gradually sliding into anarchy. Sharia court, Christian court. So who settles a quarrel between a Christian husband and a Moslem wife. Or are we doing away with western laws. Donald Trump Pls come to our rescue.

Sexina851:
Yes my brain couldn't understand dat cos ur English is bad ? pls save the pride nd correct ur fk cos it doesn't fit in a public post

you need brain enhancement cream... read between lines. you can ask your neighbor for help.morning

paradigmshift:
you need brain enhancement cream... read between lines. you can ask your neighbor for help.morning

Proud ignoramus

Sexina851:
Proud ignoramus

proud I too know

alBHAGDADI:
Why Christians should reject the bill for a Christian court in Nigeria

1. It is Satan's approach

Christians setting up a court for themselves is equivalent to dumping God's provided way of doing things and adopting Satan's approach. God has made it clear that we should settle our disputes in the church and it should be done by the elders.

1 Corinthians 1:6
If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord's people?

2. Its result won't help christianity

The result of Nigeria having a Christian court won't help the christian course it might pose to want to help. It's the same way Christian churches build universities that are of no help to Christianity but a business venture that the poor cannot partake in. We've all seen the huge mistake of Christian churches owning schools. The call for a Christian court, by a few, is almost like calling for Christians to have their own Armed Forces. Christianity does not operate like the world does.

3. We never clamoured for it

I can't seem to see where Christians clamoured for a Christian court, the equivalent of a Muslim Sharia court. Then why is a certain house of representative, Hon. Gyang Dung, pushing this bill in the National Assembly? Have we told him that we are fed up of God's own approach to doing things and now want to set up our own worldly way?

4. It is a ploy to push a hidden agenda

The bill passed a 2nd reading. Once this bill is passed into law, it will definitely amend the constitution of the nation. This is exactly what the Sharia proponents have been able finding difficult to achieve. Amending the constitution will see the christian court to appear in all states of the federation, even in the core northern states. This is something Muslims will take advantage of by pushing for a Sharia court bill, which if passed, will allow Sharia to get out of its caged hole in the Muslim north and spread to the christian south, a thing it seriously desires. It means that Christians have foolishly helped what they fear, simply because they failed to adhere to their God's standard which is settling disputes in the church and by elders, not in a court.

5. The court will be useless in Nigeria

It will be useless in the South because true Christians are ordered to forgive each other and not strive against each other. This will make the courts have less cases to settle. What about in the North? We are already seeing churches getting burnt in the North. Such courts will hold no value over there cos the illiterate Northerners won't mind discarding whatever judgment it issues as long as it doesn't favour their fellow Muslim. But if their Sharia court should have access to the south, a northerner based in the south will prefer to take a case against a Christian to Sharia courts instead of a secular court. The sad part is that the case will go through proceedings without interference, unlike in the north where an angry illiterate mob can disrupt proceedings of a Christian court just as we see them burn churches who worship on Fridays.

6. Our clamour is for the abolishment of religious courts

This is what Hon Gyang Dung should be pushing in the National Assembly. The current Sharia courts do not favour people of other religion when they are dragged to it. This could be attributed to a word in their Quran which says Muslims are to be kind with one another but harsh or severe to the unbelievers.

Quran 48:29
Mohammed is the messenger of Allah and those with him are HARSH against the DISBELIEVERS but MERCIFUL among THEMSELVES.

But I can assure you that Muslims will get fair justice if dragged to the proposed Christian court, cos Christians are God's children who should be like God who show no partiality.

English Standard Version
Romans 2:11
"For God shows no partiality."


Every Christian should rise up against this bill cos it doesn't represent Christianity but a dark force with an aim of luring Christians away from their God provided standard.

Those behind this are not Christians. A true Christian does not rvn have any business with the premises of a Court.

Scholar8200:
Now sister, on what Scriptural basis do we need a 'christian court'?

Sorry to ask Bro, m just curious. On what scriptural basis is the *Church* founded??

Sulaimon01:
Sorry to ask Bro, m just curious. On what scriptural basis is the *Church* founded??

Matthew 16:16,18,

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.



All those that stand , by faith, on that Rock - Jesus the Christ, the Son of God who gave Himself for us (Matthew 16:21) that we might live through Him!

Scholar8200:
Matthew 16:16,18,

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.



All those that stand , by faith, on that Rock - Jesus the Christ, the Son of God who gave Himself for us (Matthew 16:21) that we might live through Him!

Simon Peter? Not even Jesus

Sulaimon01:
Simon Peter? Not even Jesus

The statement was made by Jesus. Read the passage well in context.

Sulaimon01:
Simon Peter? Not even Jesus

Where did I say that? Didnt you see Who the Rock is - Jesus the Christ,the SON OF THE LIVING GOD!

@OP this your points get as he be.

You might have another agenda. I don't know.