This Islamic regime of Buhari is up to something. Has Christians in Nigeria cry for a court? The Bible is against going to court. there is hidden agenda somewhere.

will this court handle divorce cases?

This is the first time I'm hearing of any such bill. Where are the links to the media reports?

Well, this is just the beginning


Sebi name sharia court freed those criminals that beheaded that woman


Expect more of this

Sharia should never have been allowed

And neither should there ever be a Christian court


Are we even secular?

nice points I see here

if you comit adultery, they will stone you to death. Old testament law

alBHAGDADI:
Which means Christians will be throwing each other in jail, cos that is the punishment for such offences. Why not leave that to the secular courts?

i think better the mosaic law than the secular ones, atleast they are devine

alBHAGDADI:
We Shoukd reject all religious courts. Why a religious court when we have secular courts?

Religious courts generally try civil cases, that is matters which concern relations between individuals in a society, thus it really comes down to the preferences of he involved individuals. To deprive people of recourse to religious courts when their religion prescribes such would be to prevent them from exercising their faith to a reasonable degree. Especially so in deeply religious African societies.

NgcoboP:
WE NEED IT. KUDOS TO THE REPS.... YOU CARRY A XTIAN GAL FORCE HER INTO MARRIAGE STRAIGHT TO XTIAN COURT....THE MOSIAC LAWS ARE SACROSANCT

We are no longer under the mosaic laws, cos we have been redeemed by Grace. So this Christian court is not necessary. A Christian court will throw a Christian prostitute into jail if it should practice the mosaic law, unlike Christ who forgave Mary Magdalene that was about to be stoned for prostitution.

Romans 6:4

"For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace."

SmartyPants:


Religious courts generally try civil cases, that is matters which concern relations between individuals in a society. To deprive people of recourse to religious courts when their religion prescribes such would be to prevent them from exercising their faith to a reasonable degree. Especially so in deeply religious African societies.

Even though Islam prescribes such, Christianity doesn't prescribe a religious court. Having one is equal to dumping God and being judges over ourselves.

IT written that before we go to coult we should settle on the way . We are here for eternal life lets not bring the worldly affair into the church
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alBHAGDADI:


If 1 Corinthians 6:1 is what you are quoting, then Am sorry sister, you have quoted that verse wrongly.

That verse speaks of a structure already in place, which is a Christian CHURCH and it's elders, not a Christian COURT.

a Christian court will be recognised by the government and is most likely going to make use of worldly laws to execute cases. If no, then ask yourself, what biblical laws will this court be making use of? The old testament laws of stoning and an eye for an eye?

Using the Christian court will be optional and not compulsory, it will always be presided over by Christians and the bible will be a moral standard for it. Basically, it will be mainly for mediation which is what is preached in the new testament. For more difficult cases like murder I'm very sure the Lord will provide the wisdom for such cases to be judged appropriately and the culprits will definitely be sent to jail so you need to broaden your mind.

Sasuwa:



i think better the mosaic law than the secular ones, atleast they are devine

Dear lady, it now obvious that you are the one just going to church but not a doer of God's word, cos you do not know that we are no longer under the mosaic law cos we have been bought by Grace.

Romans 6:4

"For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace."

alBHAGDADI:
Why Christians should reject the bill for a Christian court in Nigeria.


1 Corinthians 1:6
If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord's people?

Infact this is the reason why we should have the court, not go to ungodly people but lord's people (christians)

Alexk2:
Most of your points are true.. ..I seriously don't see the need for it; we're not in competition for crying loud!

We christians are very gullible esp. the Northern christians
The bible is the gold standard. We gooved by towing the practice of prilgrimmage which has no spiritual but tourism purposes. A word is enough for the wise.

alBHAGDADI:
Why Christians should reject the bill for a Christian court in Nigeria

1. It is Satan's approach

Christians setting up a court for themselves is equivalent to dumping God's provided way of doing things and adopting Satan's approach. God has made it clear that we should settle our disputes in the church and it should be done by the elders.

1 Corinthians 1:6
If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord's people?

2. Its result won't help christianity

The result of Nigeria having a Christian court won't help the christian course it might pose to want to help. It's the same way Christian churches build universities that are of no help to Christianity but a business venture that the poor cannot partake in. We've all seen the huge mistake of Christian churches owning schools. The call for a Christian court, by a few, is almost like calling for Christians to have their own Armed Forces. Christianity does not operate like the world does.

3. We never clamoured for it

I can't seem to see where Christians clamoured for a Christian court, the equivalent of a Muslim Sharia court. Then why is a certain house of representative, Hon. Gyang Dung, pushing this bill in the National Assembly? Have we told him that we are fed up of God's own approach to doing things and now want to set up our own worldly way?

4. It is a ploy to push a hidden agenda

The bill passed a 2nd reading. Once this bill is passed into law, it will definitely amend the constitution of the nation. This is exactly what the Sharia proponents have been able finding difficult to achieve. Amending the constitution will see the christian court to appear in all states of the federation, even in the core northern states. This is something Muslims will take advantage of by pushing for a Sharia court bill, which if passed, will allow Sharia to get out of its caged hole in the Muslim north and spread to the christian south, a thing it seriously desires. It means that Christians have foolishly helped what they fear, simply because they failed to adhere to their God's standard which is settling disputes in the church and by elders, not in a court.

5. The court will be useless in Nigeria

It will be useless in the South because true Christians are ordered to forgive each other and not strive against each other. This will make the courts have less cases to settle. What about in the North? We are already seeing churches getting burnt in the North. Such courts will hold no value over there cos the illiterate Northerners won't mind discarding whatever judgment it issues as long as it doesn't favour their fellow Muslim. But if their Sharia court should have access to the south, a northerner based in the south will prefer to take a case against a Christian to Sharia courts instead of a secular court. The sad part is that the case will go through proceedings without interference, unlike in the north where an angry illiterate mob can disrupt proceedings of a Christian court just as we see them burn churches who worship on Fridays.

6. Our clamour is for the abolishment of religious courts

This is what Hon Gyang Dung should be pushing in the National Assembly. The current Sharia courts do not favour people of other religion when they are dragged to it. This could be attributed to a word in their Quran which says Muslims are to be kind with one another but harsh or severe to the unbelievers.

Quran 48:29
Mohammed is the messenger of Allah and those with him are HARSH against the DISBELIEVERS but MERCIFUL among THEMSELVES.

But I can assure you that Muslims will get fair justice if dragged to the proposed Christian court, cos Christians are God's children who should be like God who show no partiality.

English Standard Version
Romans 2:11
"For God shows no partiality."


Every Christian should rise up against this bill cos it doesn't represent Christianity but a dark force with an aim of luring Christians away from their God provided standard.

. You seem not to understand the reason for the push for the Christian court by the CAN...Plz read mur so,u can get it

alBHAGDADI:
Even though Islam prescribes such, Christianity doesn't prescribe a religious court. Having one is equal to dumping God and being judges over ourselves.

Disputes will definitely arise even amongst Christians and the best judges to settle such cases should be Christian too and where else can we ensure this than in a Christian court. Stop this unnecessary propaganda of yours

Chai!
All of you are afraid of "thou shall not fornicate" Abi??

Better prepare yourselves, The Second Coming is upon us

Pidgin2:


Using the Christian court will be optional and not compulsory, it will always be presided over by Christians and the bible will be a moral standard for it. Basically, it will be mainly for mediation which is what is preached in the new testament. For more difficult cases like murder I'm very sure the Lord will provide the wisdom for such cases to be judged appropriately and the culprits will definitely be sent to jail so you need to broaden your mind.

What you are saying is that we should abandon God's word and do what we feel is right even though the Bible doesn't support it. The Bible kicks against such.

2 Timothy 4:3

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"


Christians like you are now telling us to go after a lust of competition with Muslims, even when our holy book never prescribed such for us.

This is just a ploy to push forward an hidden agenda , if this should be done (God forbid) we'll we what happens next. They'll tell you shebi you have your own court why can't we legalise
- underage marriage
- amnesty for boko haram
- boko haram should be tried in a particular court
- blasphemy is against a particular religion, the list is endless

Its just a pity Nigerian government is just stupid , the government should have no business with religion at all . God help this country

This is not necessary.Is this what Jesus taught us?

We are in the last days for real.

alBHAGDADI:
Even though Islam prescribes such, Christianity doesn't prescribe a religious court. Having one is equal to dumping God and being judges over ourselves.

I said this in response to your saying that we should not have religious courts at all. I am not in support of a Christian court.

However your last line raises the question: is it not men that God uses to judge us as Christians? He has given us earthly leaders so your conclusion there is wrong and i cannot see how you arrived at that.

The formation of a Christian court simply would mean that your pastor or other respected Christian leader can give you a judgement that carries enforceable authority. And if you feel like you don't want to be judged in that way, you can opt out of appearing before the Court, appeal their judgments at the secular courts or better still, agree with your adversary before getting to court.

Pidgin2:


Disputes will definitely arise even amongst Christians and the best judges to settle such cases should be Christian too and where else can we ensure this than in a Christian court. Stop this unnecessary propaganda of yours

Such disputes are already being settled in churches and by the elders. Why set up a court?
The people that brought Christianity here, do they have such court in their own country?

victorazy:


Infact this is the reason why we should have the court, not go to ungodly people but lord's people (christians)

The Lord's people are the elders of the church. The people that will be appointed judges in the proposed Christian courts will be under the jurisdiction of the Government. So, they no longer belong to Christ, but only paying lips service.

Ranchhoddas:
I don't understand this zoo anymore. Exactly what manner of cases would be tried in these courts?

I still. dont understand wat u guys refers to as zoo.... are you animals?

kinguwem:
We christians are very gullible esp. the Northern christians
The bible is the gold standard. We gooved by towing the practice of prilgrimmage which has no spiritual but tourism purposes. A word is enough for the wise.

I can't agree more....the part I hate most is when we allow these politicians use religious as a campaign tool; when accept and believe their lies hook line and sinker...to make it worse, top religious leaders that should speak up in time aren't doing so.. .hmmm

SmartyPants:


I said this in response to your saying that we should not have religious courts at all. I am not in support of a Christian court.

However your last line raises the question: is it not men that God uses to judge us as Christians? He has given us earthly leaders so your conclusion there is wrong and i cannot see how you arrived at that.

The formation of a Christian court simply would mean that your pastor or other respected Christian leader can give you a judgement that carries enforceable authority. And if you feel like you don't want to be judged in that way, you can opt out of appearing before the Court, appeal their judgments at the secular courts or better still, agree with your adversary before getting to court.

Guy, you don't get it. Is this what Jesus taught us to do it would want us to do?

If you can't find a scriptural backing for this, then it equates to abandoning God and going after self.

when will you guys come up with Muslim or any other religion topic?? clearly shows how stupid u guys re

alBHAGDADI:
What you are saying is that we should abandon God's word and do what we feel is right even though the Bible doesn't support it. The Bible kicks against such.

2 Timothy 4:3

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"


Christians like you are now telling us to go after a lust of competition with Muslims, even when our holy book never prescribed such for us.

I am saying Christians should carry their disputes to a Christian court where their issues will be heard and judged by fellow Christians. This is according to 1 corinthians 6 :1, also in acts 6:1-7 deacons were appointed to settle disputes amongst believers. The more you argue the more I sense you might be a mole even your moniker does not seem Christian but I hope not

Lord Save us

alBHAGDADI:
What you are saying is that we should abandon God's word and do what we feel is right even though the Bible doesn't support it. The Bible kicks against such.

2 Timothy 4:3

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"


Christians like you are now telling us to go after a lust of competition with Muslims, even when our holy book never prescribed such for us.

Oga sorry o! But I don't think ur a christian because u quote Bible verses u don't really know the meaning or interpretation (no offense)
Stop this argument because is diminishing ur image and personality. Christians needs the court and using the God's law in the bible as moral standard not as ordinary law as u tamed or understood it.

alBHAGDADI:
Why Christians should reject the bill for a Christian court in Nigeria

1. It is Satan's approach

Christians setting up a court for themselves is equivalent to dumping God's provided way of doing things and adopting Satan's approach. God has made it clear that we should settle our disputes in the church and it should be done by the elders.

1 Corinthians 1:6
If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord's people?

2. Its result won't help christianity

The result of Nigeria having a Christian court won't help the christian course it might pose to want to help. It's the same way Christian churches build universities that are of no help to Christianity but a business venture that the poor cannot partake in. We've all seen the huge mistake of Christian churches owning schools. The call for a Christian court, by a few, is almost like calling for Christians to have their own Armed Forces. Christianity does not operate like the world does.

3. We never clamoured for it

I can't seem to see where Christians clamoured for a Christian court, the equivalent of a Muslim Sharia court. Then why is a certain house of representative, Hon. Gyang Dung, pushing this bill in the National Assembly? Have we told him that we are fed up of God's own approach to doing things and now want to set up our own worldly way?

4. It is a ploy to push a hidden agenda

The bill passed a 2nd reading. Once this bill is passed into law, it will definitely amend the constitution of the nation. This is exactly what the Sharia proponents have been able finding difficult to achieve. Amending the constitution will see the christian court to appear in all states of the federation, even in the core northern states. This is something Muslims will take advantage of by pushing for a Sharia court bill, which if passed, will allow Sharia to get out of its caged hole in the Muslim north and spread to the christian south, a thing it seriously desires. It means that Christians have foolishly helped what they fear, simply because they failed to adhere to their God's standard which is settling disputes in the church and by elders, not in a court.

5. The court will be useless in Nigeria

It will be useless in the South because true Christians are ordered to forgive each other and not strive against each other. This will make the courts have less cases to settle. What about in the North? We are already seeing churches getting burnt in the North. Such courts will hold no value over there cos the illiterate Northerners won't mind discarding whatever judgment it issues as long as it doesn't favour their fellow Muslim. But if their Sharia court should have access to the south, a northerner based in the south will prefer to take a case against a Christian to Sharia courts instead of a secular court. The sad part is that the case will go through proceedings without interference, unlike in the north where an angry illiterate mob can disrupt proceedings of a Christian court just as we see them burn churches who worship on Fridays.

6. Our clamour is for the abolishment of religious courts

This is what Hon Gyang Dung should be pushing in the National Assembly. The current Sharia courts do not favour people of other religion when they are dragged to it. This could be attributed to a word in their Quran which says Muslims are to be kind with one another but harsh or severe to the unbelievers.

Quran 48:29
Mohammed is the messenger of Allah and those with him are HARSH against the DISBELIEVERS but MERCIFUL among THEMSELVES.

But I can assure you that Muslims will get fair justice if dragged to the proposed Christian court, cos Christians are God's children who should be like God who show no partiality.

English Standard Version
Romans 2:11
"For God shows no partiality."


Every Christian should rise up against this bill cos it doesn't represent Christianity but a dark force with an aim of luring Christians away from their God provided standard.

What manner of hogwash!!!...You will just wake up and go and quote verses from the Qur'an and due to your bigotted, wicked and divisive mindset, you will deliberately ignore verses of the Qur'an that admonish Muslims never to harm their neighbours. Even the verse you quoted from the Qur'an, the preceding or succeeding verses preach peace but of course it will be too much for you to refer to them
"But I can assure you that Muslims will get fair justice if dragged to the proposed Christian court, cos Christians are God's children who should be like God who show no partiality" says who? If you in particular were to be God's child, you wont deliberately set about misinforming people or spreading ignorance just to malign Islam...I just wonder what you guys' problem really is....Sharia Courts came up, you shouted it was an attempt to Islamize Nigeria, Christians courts came up, you still blame Muslims and Islam...What is it sef?

bigpicture001:
. You seem not to understand the reason for the push for the Christian court by the CAN...Plz read mur so,u can get it

CAN is not the one pushing the bill, but a Hon Gyang Dung. Only God knows who is behind him.

Moreover, we Christians never begged him to push such for us.