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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:19pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Then why jump in with your comment. Iheanacho worked hard today. When he dropped deep, he pulled off some brilliant touches. His first touch showed improvement. His Problem today was the bias officiating of Michael Oliver who allowed Morgan and Huth foul him repeatedly and go unpunished.

Iheanacho won a clear penal with insane Super speed. How people here will try to make it look like it was a poor outing by Iheanacho baffles me.
Yes i watched d match coz Nacho,honestly i w not condemn him coz d whole team performed poorly,no need to single out Nacho for blame but one thing is glaring d Aguero shoe is too big for Nacho for now and d burden on him is too much,i hope Guardiola w let him development at his own pace coz it w takes time to reach Aguero level.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:23pm On Dec 10, 2016
Kog45:
Yes i watched d match coz Nacho,honestly i w not condemn him coz d whole team performed poorly,no need to single out Nacho for blame but one thing is glaring d Aguero shoe is too big for Nacho for now and d burden on him is too much,i hope Guardiola w let him development at his own pace coz it w takes time to reach Aguero level.

Why is Aguero’s shoe too big? Because, the midfielders failed to create clear cut chances for Iheanacho?

Remember, we had the same issue with the Chelsea game, where the referee allowed unfair physical defending against Aguero. Aguero lost hi Temper in that game.

Whether Messi, Ronaldo, Robben, Hazard or Aguero, if the Referee does not protect the attacker, they will not perform.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:24pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
I think most of the blame falls on the defenders. However, I will exonerate them because they are old to keep up with the intense strategy of Pep Guardiola.

When once the defenders can not keep the ball and build-up plays, it is hard for the midfield to continue the process.

Silva and De Bruyne showed hardwork and fought to make things happen.

Unfortunately, there was not enough room to create chances for Iheanacho.

I think City can not wait for the summer to change the defence line. Either we bring back the young guys from loan or buy some quality.

The defence was totally off pace. Made Ranieri's strategy work like magic
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But Stone is not old, anytime I see stone I see another Cahill another name for calamity
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:25pm On Dec 10, 2016
Kog45:
Yes i watched d match coz Nacho,honestly i w not condemn him coz d whole team performed poorly,no need to single out Nacho for blame but one thing is glaring d Aguero shoe is too big for Nacho for now and d burden on him is too much,i hope Guardiola w let him development at his own pace coz it w takes time to reach Aguero level.

Did you watch the foul in the box against Iheanacho by Albrighton? If you did, you will know Aguero would not get to that ball. That was a clear penalty won that would have brought City into the game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:28pm On Dec 10, 2016
zicky:
But Stone is not old, anytime I see stone I see another Cahill another name for calamity

Stones has a nice touch on the ball. Has great ability moving the ball forward. Miles ahead of Cahill in that respect.

However, he lacks the intelligence of his Spanish and South American counterparts. Makes lots of poor judgments.

We hope Guardiola can improve him but if not, we should get younger players in camp.

Drill them in awareness, positioning and decision making. I doubt the likes of Tosin and Mari will make such atrocious decisions.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:30pm On Dec 10, 2016
Iheanacho is faster and mobile in the box than Aguero. He just needs better services to show his class.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:32pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Why is Aguero’s shoe too big? Because, the midfielders failed to create clear cut chances for Iheanacho?

Remember, we had the same issue with the Chelsea game, where the referee allowed unfair physical defending against Aguero. Aguero lost hi Temper in that game.

Whether Messi, Ronaldo, Robben, Hazard or Aguero, if the Referee does not protect the attacker, they will not perform.
I wonder how he came to the conclusion of Agueros shoe too big, because the midfield and defense was poor
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:36pm On Dec 10, 2016
zicky:
I wonder how he came to the conclusion of Agueros shoe too big, because the midfield and defense was poor

As for Me, Aguero misses more than Iheanacho. City needs lots of rebuilding and it shows how much work is ahead if him.

Players like Sterling, Delph and Fernando can be easily replaced with far better talents.

With more creative players feeding Iheanacho, he can easily rake World Class stats.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:37pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
I think most of the blame falls on the defenders. However, I will exonerate them because they are old to keep up with the intense strategy of Pep Guardiola.

When once the defenders can not keep the ball and build-up plays, it is hard for the midfield to continue the process.

Silva and De Bruyne showed hardwork and fought to make things happen.

Unfortunately, there was not enough room to create chances for Iheanacho.

I think City can not wait for the summer to change the defence line. Either we bring back the young guys from loan or buy some quality.

The defence was totally off pace. Made Ranieri's strategy work like magic
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please do not exonerate Guardiola from this coz i don't understand what u mean by saying d defenders are too old to keep up with intense training of Guardiola.

The major culprit today is young overhype Stones who lack d pace and energy to keep vardy at bay,d same thing happened against Chelsea coz he find it difficult to curtain costa,what of bravo who don't know how to read his line as a goalkeeper,7 goals conceded in d last 2 EPL matches not good rating for Guardiola.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:43pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Why is Aguero’s shoe too big? Because, the midfielders failed to create clear cut chances for Iheanacho?

Remember, we had the same issue with the Chelsea game, where the referee allowed unfair physical defending against Aguero. Aguero lost hi Temper in that game.

Whether Messi, Ronaldo, Robben, Hazard or Aguero, if the Referee does not protect the attacker, they will not perform.
Pls try to understand me,am not saying he cannot replace Aguero but for now we should not expect much from Nacho,unnecessary burden to be at same level with Aguero is uncalled for.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:46pm On Dec 10, 2016
Kog45:
please do not exonerate Guardiola from this coz i don't understand what u mean by saying d defenders are too old to keep up with intense training of Guardiola.

The major culprit today is young overhype Stones who lack d pace and energy to keep vardy at bay,d same thing happened against Chelsea coz he find it difficult to curtain costa,what of bravo who don't know how to read his line as a goalkeeper,7 goals conceded in d last 2 EPL matches not good rating for Guardiola.

I already said I will exonerate the players because they are too old. So how does that exonerate Guardiola.

I already said it is suicidal playing a highline with slow defenders. So, how and when did I exonerate Guardiola?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:48pm On Dec 10, 2016
Kog45:
Pls try to understand me,am not saying he cannot replace Aguero but for now we should not expect much from Nacho,unnecessary burden to be at same level with Aguero is uncalled for.

Why? How old was Anelka before he became one of the best in the World? How old was Ronaldo De Lima before he was the best in the World. These were teenagers.

Iheanacho showed guts and hunger. Showed passion by putting in repeated brilliant runs.

Guardiola is protecting him enough making him the second striker. As long as he keeps working hard, he is up to the task.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:54pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

I already said I will exonerate the players because they are too old. So how does that exonerate Guardiola.

I already said it is suicidal playing a highline with slow defenders. So, how and when did I exonerate Guardiola?
ok what do u mean by saying d defenders are too old to keep up with intense strategy of Guardiola?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:54pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Why? How old was Anelka before he became one of the best in the World? How old was Ronaldo De Lima before he was the best in the World. These were teenagers.

Iheanacho showed guts and hunger. Showed passion by putting in repeated brilliant runs.

Guardiola is protecting him enough making him the second striker. As long as he keeps working hard, he is up to the task.
ok
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:57pm On Dec 10, 2016
Kog45:
please do not exonerate Guardiola from this coz i don't understand what u mean by saying d defenders are too old to keep up with intense training of Guardiola.

The major culprit today is young overhype Stones who lack d pace and energy to keep vardy at bay,d same thing happened against Chelsea coz he find it difficult to curtain costa,what of bravo who don't know how to read his line as a goalkeeper,7 goals conceded in d last 2 EPL matches not good rating for Guardiola.

Go and watch the first goal. Stones was the last defender beaten. So, how can he be the major culprit. The blame can not fall on one player. The only defender that came to the game was Sagna. He was phenomenal. A second defensive performance like that and it would have been a different game.

The problem is Zabaleta and Kolarov are past their best. Tracking back is difficult. Where Stones failed is his decision making.

By the way, let people leave that Stones is overhyped. He is one of the most criticised defenders, even before he joined City.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:58pm On Dec 10, 2016
Kog45:
Yes i watched d match coz Nacho,honestly i w not condemn him coz d whole team performed poorly,no need to single out Nacho for blame but one thing is glaring d Aguero shoe is too big for Nacho for now and d burden on him is too much,i hope Guardiola w let him development at his own pace coz it w takes time to reach Aguero level.
Nacho had nothing to do with that match being like that, before he could get a touch they were down 2-0. He picked them up in the 2nd half but he got subbed.


This is my opinion, Pep is making Iheanacho the scape goat for his shameless defence. Also that Navas joke has gone too far, Nolito should have started.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:59pm On Dec 10, 2016
Mickael2:
can I laugh yet?
Abeg laugh it out.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:01pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Stones has a nice touch on the ball. Has great ability moving the ball forward. Miles ahead of Cahill in that respect.

However, he lacks the intelligence of his Spanish and South American counterparts. Makes lots of poor judgments.

We hope Guardiola can improve him but if not, we should get younger players in camp.

Drill them in awareness, positioning and decision making. I doubt the likes of Tosin and Mari will make such atrocious decisions.
Cahill also has nice ball touch, nothing different from both players, world class defending today, the next day they make school boy error. Stone was shaking today like a toddler, you saw that hand ball incidence when Verdy was closing him down, I was just laughing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
Kog45:
ok what do u mean by saying d defenders are too old to keep up with intense strategy of Guardiola?
Guardiola's team trains and plays to keep the ball most of the time. Today's game was a typical example. The defender push up towards the half way line and play as midfielders. This enables build-up plays with the team compact in the opponents half.

When we lose the ball, the defenders need to sprint to get the ball back. Then push-up to continue the cycle.

Ranieri knew the defenders are old and slow, so he kept few men on their shoulders. When we lost the ball, it was difficult for our slow defenders to cope with Vardy, Slimani and Mahrez.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:03pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Go and watch the first goal. Stones was the last defender beaten. So, how can he be the major culprit. The blame can not fall on one player. The only defender that came to the game was Sagna. He was phenomenal. A second defensive performance like that and it would have been a different game.

The problem is Zabaleta and Kolarov are past their best. Tracking back is difficult. Where Stones failed is his decision making.

By the way, let people leave that Stones is overhyped. He is one of the most criticised defenders, even before he joined City.
A defender with indecision making is a minus in any team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:04pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
Guardiola's team trains and plays to keep the ball most of the time. Today's game was a typical example. The defender push up towards the half way line and play as midfielders. This enables build-up plays with the team compact in the opponents half.

When we lose the ball, the defenders need to sprint to get the ball back. Then push-up to continue the cycle.

Ranieri knows the defenders are old and slow, so he kept few men on their shoulders. When we lose the ball, it was difficult for our slow defenders to cope with Vardy, Slimani and Mahrez.
Sorry are u Man city fan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:06pm On Dec 10, 2016
zicky:
Cahill also has nice ball touch, nothing different from both players, world class defending today, the next day they make school boy error. Stone was shaking today like a toddler, you saw that hand ball incidence when Verdy was closing him down, I was just laughing


Stones is miles ahead in ball distribution and moving with the ball. Cahill can not play with such confident or hold the ball as long as Stones.

However, Stones atrocious decision-making lets him down. That leads to the errors. That ball control that hit his hand was a typical example.

There were options to pass the ball earlier but he chose to hold the ball.

With time, he can pickup but I prefer a naturally gifted defender like Marquinhos than to groom a player to make such decisions right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:06pm On Dec 10, 2016
Kog45:
Sorry are u Man city fan

Check my signature below. You will find the answer.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:08pm On Dec 10, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
Nacho had nothing to do with that match being like that, before he could get a touch they were down 2-0. He picked them up in the 2nd half but he got subbed.


This is my opinion, Pep is making Iheanacho the scape goat for his shameless defence. Also that Navas joke has gone too far, Nolito should have started.
agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:09pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Check my signature below. You will find the answer.
Ok good
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:12pm On Dec 10, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
Nacho had nothing to do with that match being like that, before he could get a touch they were down 2-0. He picked them up in the 2nd half but he got subbed.


This is my opinion, Pep is making Iheanacho the scape goat for his shameless defence. Also that Navas joke has gone too far, Nolito should have started.

Navas showed penetration. Made fast runs and caused Leicester City problems. Remember the time Albrighton fouled Navas. That was a clear yellow but as Usual, it was City.

Nolito played upfront and also, Navas switched wings.

Nolito hardly plays on the right side of the field.

Guardiola did not make Iheanacho the scape goat. Hence, the referee was not going to protect Iheanacho against such vicious and reckless defending, Guardiola opted to go with a physical presence upfront with Yaya Toure.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:15pm On Dec 10, 2016
Kog45:
ok what do u mean by saying d defenders are too old to keep up with intense strategy of Guardiola?
The strategy requires a lot of running and it suits younger players more than the older ones. That is why most City buys are young players like, Sane, Moreno, Gabriel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:15pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
Guardiola's team trains and plays to keep the ball most of the time. Today's game was a typical example. The defender push up towards the half way line and play as midfielders. This enables build-up plays with the team compact in the opponents half.

When we lose the ball, the defenders need to sprint to get the ball back. Then push-up to continue the cycle.

Ranieri knows the defenders are old and slow, so he kept few men on their shoulders. When we lose the ball, it was difficult for our slow defenders to cope with Vardy, Slimani and Mahrez.
Good,then defenders are at fault coz they cannot keep up with intense strategy of Guardiola,not d coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:18pm On Dec 10, 2016
Kog45:
Good,then defenders are at fault coz they cannot keep up with intense strategy of Guardiola,not d coach.

I will not exonerate Guardiola because he works with these guys in training. He should have seen they will not keep up with it.

It is his job to pick the right players for the season. He is paying for his reliance on experience to salvage the situation.

However, under intense pressure like the first game against Celtic, Tottenham and today's game, they fold.

It is up to Guardiola to find some gems to fill these gaps like he did with Pique who was about 20 years to help the defence.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:19pm On Dec 10, 2016
Claudio Ranieri has never lost a premier league vs City
Last 9 games WWWWWWDWW
Dilly ding, dilly dong
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:25pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

I will not exonerate Guardiola because he works with these guys in training. He should have seen they will not keep up with it.

It is his job to pick the right players for the season. He is paying for his reliance on experience to salvage the situation.

However, under intense pressure like the first game against Celtic, Tottenham and today's game, they fold.

It is up to Guardiola to find some gems to fill these gaps like he did with Pique who was about 20 years to help the defence.
Good point,this is what i want to hear
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:50pm On Dec 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Navas showed penetration. Made fast runs and caused Leicester City problems. Remember the time Albrighton fouled Navas. That was a clear yellow but as Usual, it was City.

Nolito played upfront and also, Navas switched wings.

Nolito hardly plays on the right side of the field.

Guardiola did not make Iheanacho the scape goat. Hence, the referee was not going to protect Iheanacho against such vicious and reckless defending, Guardiola opted to go with a physical presence upfront with Yaya Toure.
They beat the crap out of city. I stopped watching when Pep took Iheanacho out but city has no defence they need to buy a whole new defence line and maybe a keeper since Bravo keeps falling my hand. Iheanacho will need players like Nolito and Yaya to show his best their chemistry is already there, Navas was just running around passing nonsense.
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