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| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 9:19am On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:Lamu and Mombasa were founded by Arabs and not black Africans unlike Kano. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:24am On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:you mean this [b]Nairobi "Slums are usually dense settlements. About 60 to 80 percent of Kenya’s urban population lives in slums. In Nairobi, informal settlements cover just 6% of the total residential land area, yet house 60% of the city’s population (IRIN, 2013)."[/b] Nairobi is home to one of the largest slums in the world. The slum, Kibera, houses approximately 250,000 of the 2.5 million slum dwellers in the city. Most people in Kibera live on less than $1 per day and HIV is rampant. There is a shortage of clean water and education and rape and assault cases are common. The slum is so large that it has many villages. Nakuru Nakuru is the fourth largest town in Kenya with an estimated population of 300,000. The size of population is growing quickly as more families migrate to Nakuru from neighbouring villages,It is relatively easy to travel to Nakuru from the capital city of Nairobi, as it is only 160 km away. Nakuru town has many commercial areas, shops, restaurants and offices. However, over 150,000 of Nakuru’s population live in low income settlments.Many of these are informal settlements, or what we would call slums(imagine a pouluation of arround 300k+ and over half of the population leaves in poverty and slums?). Turkana Turkana is the largest and also the north-western most county in Kenya. It is bordered by the countries of Uganda to the west; South Sudan and Ethiopia, including the disputed Ilemi Triangle, to the north and northeast; and Lake Turkana to the east. 100% the people leaves in abject poverty Other major cities include Mombasa (pop: 1.2 million), Kisumu (400,000), and Nakuru (300,000). Kisii[b] [/b] will back to expose all the rest of these counties (over 90% counties are slums )
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| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:25am On Dec 20, 2016 |
ianSweet:Here goes the ignorant girl again. Please read a book. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:27am On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:ahahahahh more like their no blacks in lamu..what! |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:30am On Dec 20, 2016 |
PissedYagami:Ur comrade,nairobitrekker,make it look as if kenya has no problems at all and that is the issue the nigerian guys find unacceptable.nigerians will readily condemn and even vote out nonperforming govt and refuse to hide their mess but kenyans seem to embrace and polish their mess.no wonder arap moi ruled 4 so long and the indians control ur economy |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:37am On Dec 20, 2016 |
obaaderemi:Says someone who claims there are no slums in Lagos. Why don't you condemn your government for not providing you with a good supply of electricity first? |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 9:42am On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:Nigeria is bigger than your Kenya. We have far more cities and towns than you do. Now tell me why you can hardly find pictures of ancient houses like you can see in Kano and Ibadan in other parts of Nigeria? For instance we have cities like Warri, Port harcourt, Kaduna, Jos, Zaria, Maiduguri, Onitsha and Ilorin in Nigeria which have over 1 million residents each but u can hardly find a section of these cities with old houses like u do in Ibadan and Kano. Can u provide a proof to show that Kano and Ibadan have any slums or slums make up up tp half of these cities? That of Nairobi is world renowned. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 9:45am On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:I know all that i need to know about coastal east Africa and their arabic, persian and Indian settlements. Were Mombasa and Lamu founded purely by Black Africans? Yes or No? Kano, Ibadan and Benin city in nigeria were ancient cities founded purely by Nigerian black african tribes. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:48am On Dec 20, 2016 |
68816419:Below is the photo of the Lamu Governor Issa Timamy. His people resemble the Fulani of Nigeria in appearance. Is he Arab to you? ....and if he is, can we then agree President Buhari is also Arab? If Buhari is Arab, can we agree Nigeria is ruled by Arabs?
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| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:48am On Dec 20, 2016 |
ianSweet:And that's what makes nigeria the giant of africa.its what the others cant wrap their head around.what the use of having black politicians who hold political power but serve the economic interests of other races in their own land to the magnitude we have in kenya and s.africa.i mean its crazy especially when the 'victims' have to rationalize such under one silly rainbow coalition or multiculture,a dummy sold to them by the rapacious foreigners to limit competition.maybe indians and whites also live in kibera.waiting to see. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:50am On Dec 20, 2016 |
ianSweet:Like I said, you're very ignorant and poor in history. See your argument is all based on statements. I'll help you this time round. Google Mwana Mkisi and start from there. I hope you have enough gas for your generator. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 9:53am On Dec 20, 2016 |
68816419:Some of the slum s u have included here are pretty much the divisions of the same slum! I.e.: Gatwekera, Kambi Muru, Kangemi, Kianda, Kichinjio, Kisumu Ndogo, Laini Saba, Lindi, Makina, Makongeni, Mashimoni, Mugumoini, Raila, Sarang'ombe, Shilanga, Siranga, Soweto East and Soweto West Baba Dogo, Kiambiu are part of the same larger kIBERA sLUM. Mathare, Mathare Valley, Matopeni, Majengo, Ziwa la Ngombe are parts of the Mathare slum. Mukuru, Mukuru kwa Njenga is the same place, Mukur Slums. There is no slum called Kenyat University slum, I have no idea where u got that from, cos Kenyatta University is actually located in a well off neighborhood. And the following are not even slums! Ngara,weslantland slums(Maasai,Suswa,Kaptagatm,Parkland,Langata slums(City Cotton, Mitumba, Maasai, KPA and Kyangombe villages ),Ngong slums are not listed , the whole of Rongai is slum Westlands, parklands, Ngong, and Rongai......really, are slums? Where did u get that from? The following are not slums, but markets/shopping centres City Cotton, Mitumba, Maasai, KPA and Kyangombe villages. The latter (KPA) is infact a huge residential area owned by a parastatal, the Kenya Ports Authority (KPA, its pictures below)! https://lustman1990.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/3-5.jpg https://lustman1990.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/7.jpg Maasai,Suswa,Kaptagatm are townships far away from Nairobi! Your source is really flawed. If 92% of Nairobians were really slum dwellers, then Kenya wouldnt have been boasting one of the largest real estate sector in Africa! |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 10:06am On Dec 20, 2016 |
PissedYagami:Hehehe you spoke like a prophet there. Two nights ago i was with a senior govt official and he noticed me browsing the topic very animatedly. I insisted he reads it and is reading it whenever free 5 mins pops up in his very busy schedule. i even encouraged him to join nairaland. You never know ooo |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 10:08am On Dec 20, 2016 |
[quote author=68816419 post=52076511][/quote]Ngara, a slum really? https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7611/26799863856_533f259327_b.jpg [img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbmlEBARqQ96HsFKQ4NVYZIXkY3Z3YSbF-Ke0Pf6t6l-8FH_EOjA[/img] |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by solbil: 10:33am On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:talk as if there is a single kilowatt of power in you Kibera. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 10:51am On Dec 20, 2016 |
68816419:Max estimate for Nairobi slum is 60% vs lagos 66%. And the slums only make up 6% of total Nairobi land. So 94% of Nairobi is is not a slum. Just that the 6% which is the slum carries a huge population. And I can post more gross pictures of Nigeria man, if you want that game |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 10:52am On Dec 20, 2016 |
ianSweet:It was a trade are for black and Arabs. Thats why the religion there is Islam. It also lead to development of a Swahili language, a Bantu language, though with a lot of arabic loan words |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 10:55am On Dec 20, 2016 |
solbil:Actually some shacks are connected Housing The average size of shack in this area is 12ft x 12ft built with mud walls, a corrugated tin roof with a dirt or concrete floor. The cost is about KES 700 per Month (£6). These shacks often house up to 8 or more with many sleeping on the floor. The population The original settlers were the Nubian people from the Kenyan/Sudanese border – they now occupy about 15% of Kibera, are mostly Muslim and are also mostly shack owners. The other shack owners are mostly Kikuyu (the majority tribe in Nairobi) – although in most cases they do not live there but are absentee landlords. The majority of the tenants are Luo, Luhya and some Kamba – these people are from the west of Kenya. There are many tensions in Kibera, particularly tribal tensions between the Luo & Kikuyu, but also between landlord and tenant and those with and without jobs. Electricity Only about 20% of Kibera has electricity . UN-Habitat is in the process of providing it to some parts of Kibera – this will include street lighting, security lighting and connection to shacks (this costs KES 900 per shack, which in most cases is not affordable). |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:02am On Dec 20, 2016 |
solbil:The whole of Kibera has 24/7 supply of electricity. Ask Naijalander |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by solbil: 11:14am On Dec 20, 2016 |
PissedYagami:AJ have electricity everywhere |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 11:16am On Dec 20, 2016 |
And only 6% of Nairobis total land is a slum, 94% of the land aint a slum |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:24am On Dec 20, 2016 |
solbil:Even the poshest places in Lagos have no constant electricity. Stop deceiving people. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:51am On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:Its one of the reasons we voted out the last govt and right now nigerians are calling for fashola,the power minister's resignation.they holding him accountable for saying providing stable power is not rocket science and yet he is struggling.ANd show me where i said lagos has no slum. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 12:00pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:Ur compatriot,pissedyagami just posted an article showing only 20% of kibera is connected.keep deceiving urself. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 12:07pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
MtuMsuper:Our mutual friend,nairobitrekker,is going to be pissed off by this.i believe he is also animatedly glued to nairaland somewhere in eastafrica now but to encourage a kenyan politician to use nairaland? the very idea!no pun intended |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:22pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
obaaderemi:You keep saying Kenya is no match for Nigeria because Kenya is full of slums. I simply showcase areas where Kenya beats Nigeria by far but you always come with excuses such as "oyinbo did it for you, HDI is not important, we have a larger production capacity etc". Sometimes it's wise to accept your shortcomings. Show me where I said Kenya has no problems at all. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:24pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
obaaderemi:.....it is his own opinion. It wasn't official and neither was it an article like you claim. See Kibera has a smaller official connection (though nowhere as small as 20℅ as Yagami claims - I drive through the southern bypass overlooking Kibera daily and one of the most visible thing in that slum are the electric posts and TV serials) but slum people make their own illegal connections (which are normally responsible for the occasional fires that happen in those slums). If you factor these illegal connections then 100℅ of people in Kibera are connected to electricity. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:28pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
obaaderemi:I'm really giving this dude sleepless nights he can't stop thinking of me. Why would I be mad that someone joined Nairaland yet I'm on Nairaland? The earlier he joins the better - there's always a lot to learn from online forums and it's good when senior government officials understand their countries and people better. |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 1:16pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:25pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
![]() Nigerians protests over lack of electricity https://www.nairaland.com/2991420/tour-under[i][/i]stand-causes-nigerias-epileptic#43793830 |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 2:39pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:Kenyans living below poverty line is at 40%. Nigeria is well over 60%. 66% of Lagos people live in slums, 66% for a City of 20 million is very bad. Kenya better HDI, better life expectancy. And slums occupy 6% of total Nairobi land,but over crowded. 90% of Nairobi is not a slum and actually if you came to Nairobi you would not see a slum anywhere. To see a slum you must go to the exact location, they are not everywher |
| Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 2:39pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
https://twitter.com/kenyapics Some nice Kenyan pictures there. |
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