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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Litmus: 7:37pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Hope and Kindness Kenya was founded in 2002 by Terry and Judi Mott. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 7:55pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
ianSweet: AfroCircus: I wish you could read and understand properly. That is a recent picture. Benin Kingdom, Ibadan, Kano, Sokoto caliphate were all cities before whites came to Nigeria. We still have some of those areas in the present day Nigeria. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 7:56pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
obaaderemi:not a politician dude, a career professional. big difference |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 8:05pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Litmus: LoL, you are right. Kenya is all about white people and humanitarian groups helping poor black people. So sad! More of Kenya
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 8:14pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
MtuMsuper:That means you are not a trekker like NairobiWalker |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 8:33pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Seriously, i think Nairobi is a disaster. It is the slum capital of the world. Why so much slums? Must every Kenyan live in Nairobi?
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 8:37pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
I think all these Kenyans here PissedYagami, NairobiWalker e.t.c here are the biggest loosers in the world. How can a capital city have these kinds of places? Not just one slum, not two, but dozens of them. Is there a government in that country at all?
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 8:42pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
AfroCircus, Muafrika2, KenyanStar et al Now i can see why Kenya atttacts so many tourists, seems like most of them just want to see what the largest slum (concentration of poverty) in Africa looks like. With all the foreign aid, why are so many slums still in Nairobi?
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 8:56pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Gosh, i can't imagine Nigeria's capital city ABUJA, the largest planned modern city in Africa with over 3 million inhabitants with the kind of slums Nairobi has. Nairobi's slums are even more famous than the main city itself, well that's not surprising considering the large size and numbers of the slums. Kenyans really need to learn from Nigeria what it takes to build a capital city to meet world standards. Even Lagos city, the largest city in Africa (with about 20 million people) had only One slum Makoko which has now been demolished, but Nairobi that is not up to one quarter of Lagos has the largest and highest number of slums. What an abyssmal shame! The worst part of all these is that u find the Indians who milk Kenya's rescources in the wealthiest neighbourhoods while the black majority languish in these kinds of dejected neighbourhoods and the same colonial Indians will be the people to brainwash my black brothers that skin colour does not matter. O ye black man, who has bewitched you like this?
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 9:06pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
ianSweet:IanSweet it's OK. Please don't post too many pics of slums here. It will send a bad image of Africa to the world. The Kenyans are happy for what they have achieved so far. It's not easy selling tea and still come up with a nice city even though most of them stay in slums. It's just a starting point for them. I know myself Nigeria is better but we don't sell tea. We sell sweet crude which generate a lot of money for us. This is why we can carry out far bigger project. Look at the transformation in Akwa Ibom and lagos from 2007 to 2015. Many other states like Calabar, Abuja, portharcourt and others were better than Lagos and Akwa ibom in terms of infrastructure. But today Lagos became a city all Nigerians now want to call home even though it's a Yoruba land. That is the big difference between us. We can make big changes within a very short time. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 9:16pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
iblawi: Yes, i think you are right. Personally i have no issues with Kenyans but the way Kenyans brag and boast about Kenya and belittle Nigeria will make you think Kenya is really really advanced not knowing that they are just as terrible as most African countries or even worse. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 9:27pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Talk is cheap. AfroCircus: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by solbil: 9:48pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker: missplaced priorities you call it? From what you have said, you did not disappoint me when you came up with the usual you are poor, you have to improve standard of life, get your priorities right, mantra that the whole world have made us Africans to always be concerned about. We Nigerians do not allow ourselves to be defined by poverty, ill health etc and that's why we still go to school anyway even though we may not have eaten in the morning. The result, we are leading the entire African continent and you guys just want to be like us as could be clearly seen from those links i posted here. But is our involvement in astronomy and high tech physics beyond the stratosphere a misplaced priority? Listen to what a white European is telling you trying to correct your wrong idea of yourself that you should only be concerned about is how to tackle poverty and disease. Thanks for these comments, Jeremy. The comments on the alleged vanity of African Space Science give me a big “roll eyes” feeling. If we look back, we Europeans have a history of 3000 years pondering the Skies and the origins of it all, and the scientific revolution of the 18th and 19th centuries happened with a backdrop of poverty, hunger, wars and mass migrations. I can attest to the fact that studies an the earth- and space sciences (both often are closely intertwined) equip the students with an understanding of complexities in general, allowing them to enter in and contribute to many different fields. Astronomy, Physics and the Geo and Environmental Sciences all include essential tools for coping with complex and large scale development and environmental issues. A “space project” already is using, for example, Remote sensing GIS data from existing platforms for land use and regional planning and training students in geo information sciences. This is called development. Capacity building. Fishing rods instead of donations of canned fish, so to say. The opponents appear to have an interest in keeping Africa low, keep Africa from developing too much and thus from eventually becoming an emancipated competition for European companies. And it is ridiculous and immoral anyway to complain about Africa receiving too much aid after European countries exploited the continent for centuries. A beautiful aspect is that all space programs in developing countries operate on shoestring budgets and thus are forced to become immensely creative to find low cost solutions. Maybe that feels like a threat to some folks who are used to the comfort of monstrous state budgets…https://makewealthhistory.org/2013/08/13/the-truth-about-africas-space-programmes/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by solbil: 10:22pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
to those who think Africa/Nigeria and Science should not be mentioned in the same sentence, this is for you The truth about Africa’s space programmes Posted by Jeremy Williams Of all the stupid things written about Africa in the British press, the recent fussing about space programmes is among the stupidest. If you’re lucky enough not to have come across the story, it concerns countries that receive development aid from Britain and also have space programmes of one kind of another. Outrageous, say UKIP, the tabloids and the anti-aid brigade. “If a foreign government has enough cash to invest in an ambitious space programme,” says Matthew Sinclair of the ubiquitous Taxpayers Alliance, “it should not expect to be receiving cash from the UK which is earmarked for helping the world’s poorest.” Tory MP Philip Davies joins in: “We have got to say to these countries ‘you have got to spend that money on your people where it’s most needed not on some grandiose space programme’.” There are a couple of assumptions here. One is that these schemes are ‘grandiose’ or ambitious. The second is that they won’t do any good for the poor. Neither of those things is necessarily true. First, despite the tabloid talk of ‘joining the space race‘, these are generally not vanity projects. Most often we’re talking about astronomy programmes at African universities, taking advantage of the continent’s clear skies. If sending anything into space is involved at all, it’s satellites, not space missions. Usually the satellites are carried on other countries’ rockets, such as China’s or Russia’s. The main focus of space initiatives is often academic, aimed at developing local engineering expertise and encouraging science and innovation. “Space programs in Africa are not focused on getting men in space,” says Professor Nithaya Chetty of South Africa’s space agency. “African governments are finally coming around to understand the critical importance of science as an instrument for development. Training in astronomy, and training in computing and engineering leads to skills that are very wide ranging and are transferable to other disciplines.” Some of the countries being talked about have space programmes, but we shouldn’t read too much into the idea. Kenya is a leader in astronomy, but in terms of actual spacefaring ambitions, it has a disused Italian launchpad off Malindi that it would like to renovate as a commercial venture. Ghana’s Space Science and Technology Centre did launch its first ‘satellite’ this year, but it was the size of a coke can, built by students and was launched by weather balloon as a demonstration project. The Daily Mail was being particularly disingenuous in its tutting about Uganda this week. The very same paper ran a story poking fun at Uganda’s ‘space programme’ two years ago, under the headline ‘Not exactly NASA!’. The Ugandan space project is run by volunteer enthusiasts, and suggesting Uganda doesn’t deserve our aid because of it is self-serving nonsense. Secondly, satellite programmes can help the poor. Many parts of Africa, especially deeper rural areas, are badly connected and in desperate need of infrastructure. Satellite technology can open up communications to those regions far more cheaply than attempting to cable them all. This improves governance too, with governments able to keep in contact with the further reaches of the country. Satellites can play a role in monitoring droughts, pollution, desertification and natural disasters. One of Nigeria’s satellites relays images of natural disaster zones to relief agencies, and was used to study malaria vectors. They can keep an eye on conflict zones and border disputes and track the movements of rebel forces, as the Satellite Sentinel Project does in Sudan. Now, that particular satellite project was set up by George Clooney and friends, so that’s obviously okay. If an African country had launched it, would it be a luxury vanity project that could have been better spend on the poor? Of course not. Then there are agricultural and weather forecasting applications, global positioning and mapping technologies, data gathering and climate monitoring. Africa will benefit from all of these things, including the poor. Investing in these technologies is not an either/or decision between satellites and sanitation, any more than Britain has to choose between doing something about youth unemployment and supporting our own Space Agency. British taxpayers’ money isn’t going towards space programmes in Africa, though plenty of our aid money does go astray, I’m sure. And I’m sure that some developing world space projects are nationalist ego projects with budgets that could be better spent elsewhere. But satellite technology is important and everyone has a right to it. We should celebrate African universities contributing to our knowledge of astronomy, providing Southern hemisphere platforms for space observation, and playing an active role in the advance of science. Nigeria is even training the first bona fide African astronaut. Great. What could be a better symbol of a rising Africa? Share this: Nigeriasat-X, built in Surrey https://makewealthhistory.org/2013/08/13/the-truth-about-africas-space-programmes/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:28pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
ianSweet: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:53pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
ianSweet: Lol Do you now understand why we assigned you kitchen duties? Quit embarrassing yourself. Nigerian women need some class. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:59pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:Yes,u are really learning here on nairaland though ur posts prove otherwise.and i think u are the one having sleepless nights quoting almost everyone here even when not mentioned.u stick out like a cockroach on a cake with ur childish tantrums and wailing. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:13pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
The first African to space was South African the second was Kenyan. Nigerians good luck with the satelites. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by mkenya254: 11:35pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
This thread has become too repetitive. Here is why I Like Kenya. We have accepted the issues we have and are working to solve them while Nigerians still have their heads in the sand and keep talking of how great they are yet this does not reflect on the common Nigerian. Let us looks at some things. I gave very practical applications of how the government of Kenya has adopted technology and is even experimenting with some technologies that not many countries tries in the world are willing to at the moment e. G. Blockchain. Right now I can do a land registry search, company registration, driver license renewal, submit tax returns, get insurance etc all online. @ianSweet replies by producing a list of Nigerians who hold patents by creating new technologies. The sad fact is that for all people in the list she produced, there is NO single technology that has been adopted in anyway to create a successful startup or has changed the life of any ordinary Nigerian in Nigeria or wherever. But look at Kenya, Mpesa brought financial services to even the most marginalized communities living in the desert, mkopo solar provides power to people that have not been reached by the national grid etc. In a country whose 70% of the population lives below 1Usd per day we have the most successful startups being online shopping instead of agriculture... Lol Despite many reports having been linked to here showing that 66% of people in Lagos are in a slum. Many Nigerians with the aim of national pride are willing to dispell Facts and pretend that slums are non existent and resort to posting endless pictures of slums they have googled to be in Nairobi. The sad fact was especially when they keep reiterating that Makoko has been completely destroyed yet I have seen Makoko with my own eyes thus year and several articles show that only a VERY SMALL part of Makoko was demolished. What is Kenya doing? We have slum upgrade plans that despite facing many hiccups and are slower than expected have worked for some slum dwellers. About white and Indian masters. This is coming from a country where people are not proud of being black and even segregate and admonish other Africans for having a dark complexion... Lol. Majority of large companies in Nigeria have a lot of foreign shareholding including their iconic banks. Majority of construction projects in Nigeria like most developing African countries are by the Chinese but Nigeria is very quick to admonish Kenya when we have any debt or chinese funded operation :/ The level of hypocrisy is appaling Misguided ambitions. Nigeria is exploring space technology yet it does not even have enough electrical power to provide 24hr electricity to any of it's residents Nigeria is building a war ship at billions of naira but cannot tackle and finish the Boko Haram who of totally destroyed would lead to billions being injected into Nigeria by investors in the marginalized northern areas. If these billions were pumped into agriculture, such a green country with lots of rivers would stop importing basic necessities for its citizens e.g. Milk and other common produce. Industrialization. Nigerians claim that their industries are the main reasons why they are lacking 24/7 power in their homes.. Lol. I mean what is the need for these industries if I am going to go home to a dark house on most nights. Closing statements. Nigeria is the largest oil producer in Africa and the 5th largest in the world yet they cannot compare themselves with most of the top 10 oil producers in the world and majority of their refined oil is imported #sigh , Nigeria has the largest population in Africa(cheap labour) and hundreds of thousands of arable and fertile land but imports Extremely basic food products that can easily be grown, a country that admonishes other countries for accommodating people of other races while they practice the worst kind of racism I can think of, black on black racism, a country whose eyes are closed due to the fact that their big ignorant heads are too far up their asses to notice that their large GDP and a few rich men e.g. Dankote do not in any way show the success of their country if the common citizen still has no power, lives in a oil polluted environment(spills and smoke) and noise polluted environment due to generators, is more likely to die due to insecurity(Boko Haram in the northern states), is likely not to be paid in time even by a government employer(majority of the states have difficulty in paying workers on time). The ordinary citizen is also more likely to be out of a job(unemployment is at 13% and the recent 700000 applications for 500 Firs jobs is just a big shame). A country that struggles to finance a 20bn USD budget on a 500bn USD GDP is a joke of a country. I mean the Kenyan budget is 22bn USD for 45m Kenyans. That said, in Kenya we also do have our problems and are working towards creating practical solutions(not a bunch of useless patents in some shelf) but the ability of Nigerians to ignore facts and official reports posted here just for national pride is just shocking and goes on to show the arrogant nature they are associated with or maybe a poor education system that would lead someone to disapprove UN reports and other official reports because they have never stepped out of their village or country 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Horus(m): 11:51pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
gallivant: Kenyan? , he look more like an Indian |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 12:11am On Dec 21, 2016 |
Horus: You are blind then. What colour is your satellites? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:35am On Dec 21, 2016 |
ianSweet:It seems you people were living in slums way before anybody else in Africa. That should explain alot of things about you, like why lagos is mega slum. It's long accepted for centuries, and worse, passed of as civilization |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 4:43am On Dec 21, 2016 |
mkenya254:Yup. in a nutshell. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:02am On Dec 21, 2016 |
obaaderemi: At least I only quote you when you quote or mention me. You're all over quoting everything I post and when I don't post you're all over talking about me. You behave like a lazy jobless woman - always talking about people who are better than her. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:07am On Dec 21, 2016 |
See how you embarrass the black race
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by solbil: 5:08am On Dec 21, 2016 |
We will keep posting evidence of our technological superiority anyway even though the Kenyans in here choose to ignore it due to over bloated ego. I have personally used this technology myself, so there is no doubting it! Cutting-Edge Technologies NAFDAC is spearheading global efforts in the use of Cutting- Edge Technologies to fight counterfeiting. TruScan (Raman Spectroscopy ) Mobile Authentication Service (SMS TEXT Messaging) We are the first Medicines Regulatory Authority to deploy and use Truscan®, a hand held device, with resounding success at borders and within the country to detect counterfeit medicines on the spot. Truscan The Truscan is a hand-held device used for on -the -spot detection of counterfeit medicines. Celebrated investigative journalist, Dan Rather, formerly of CBS, was in Nigeria to see this device in use first hand. Concept of Operations NAFDAC Central Lab in Lagos Develops and maintains library of medicines. Sends updates to field units. Collects and analyzes data from field. Field Inspectors Perform random and targeted inspections Generate and sends reports. GPHF Minilab Test Kits: We are utilizing the Global Pharma Health Fund Minilab Test Kits for speedy evaluation of medicines. It is a reliable, simple and inexpensive method for detecting counterfeit medicines. Mobile Authentication Service (MAS) NAFDAC has launched the Mobile Authentication Service (MAS) using Short Message Service (SMS). This technology has put the power of detecting counterfeit regulated products in the hands of more than 80 million Nigerian cell phone users. http://www.nafdac.gov.ng/index.php/component/content/article/187-nafdac-innovations/240-cutting-edge-technologies |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfroCircus: 5:09am On Dec 21, 2016 |
ianSweet:You talking from a Utopia or something? Nairobi has its fair share of slums and the 60% people perceived as living in slums is inclusive of low income highrise Estates like pipeline, umoja, imara daima etc. Lagos is 66% slums ianSweet:A small part of makoko was demolished and the folks protested all over. And makoko has got to be among the most worrying places to live in, a slum on top of a swampy sewage! Please don't lie, I hate soiling other countries and unearthing hidden skeletons but such a huge lie after such blatant soiling can't go unanswered. here's a list of some slums there (won't give pictures unless prompted to Makoko Agege Ajegunle Amukoko Badia Bariga Bodija Ijeshatedo/Itire Ilaje Iwaya Mushin Oke-Offa Babasale Somolu |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfroCircus: 5:11am On Dec 21, 2016 |
naijalander:Reasoning should be cheaper I suppose, don't be blind to reason. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:14am On Dec 21, 2016 |
.........and somebody still says Lagos has no slums. I don't blame her though, she's never been to Lagos anyway. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:18am On Dec 21, 2016 |
More Lagos 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:19am On Dec 21, 2016 |
The Abuja that they claim has no slums and the magnificent Naija Railways
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:29am On Dec 21, 2016 |
"Normal" housing in Nigeria 1 Like
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