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hopefulLandlord:
Christianity's only supposed benefit is posthumous

even that is not limited to Christianity as there are many religion that promises posthumous benefits

Am waiting for either 4everGod or KingEbukasblog to come and say "death is death" or god is protecting them from unforeseen evil in the future by starving them to death

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randomperson:
Before Christians start complaining that atheists only attack Christianity, try to understand that since I was once a committed Christian, it's the only religion I truly understand.

Christians just like adherents of any other religion believe they are special and held favored. However, this idea doesn't seem to have any truth in the actual world... The poorest countries in the world are Africans,no necessary Christians or Muslims, the world biggest economy the USA,where atheist are 6%,Christians are 70%,infact countries with most Christians are.
USA
Brazil Russia,south Africa Nigeria,phillipines,Italy Spain,Congo, majority of these countries are rich,some are poor,christainity,atheism,Islam does not make a country rich,it is good government economic policy that does that

Let's consider Financial wealth.

Are Christians significantly richer? That doesn't seem so. A large number of the poorest people in the world are Christians. In fact, the richest countries have very high populations of atheists, while some others are Muslim dominated?? There is no single shred of evidence to suggest Christians are less broke, or have better financial convenience... In actual fact, there are Christians dying of hunger...

How do we reconcile this with the idea that God provides for Christians

Christians can tag their other friends to come and answer this question

N[quote author=randomperson post=51911551].. The poorest countries in the world are Africans,no necessary Christians or Muslims, the world biggest economy the USA,where atheist are 6%,Christians are 70%,infact countries with most Christians are.
USA
Brazil Russia,south Africa Nigeria,phillipines,Italy Spain,Congo, majority of these countries are rich,some are poor,christainity,atheism,Islam does not make a country rich,it is good government economic policy that does that

Godgay:
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The USA is not the richest country and besides, there are a lot more irreligious people in the US than in Africa and yet, Africans are suffering. The richest countries are usually generally irreligious.
The point am making is this... No god, real or imagined is going to provide for you in spite of any promise to do so...

balanceofterror1:
I Am a Christian and there's nothing you can do about it rather than to cry and weep.

you should be smwer in the North unleashing terror an boko boys,and not hear to argue about a diety that doesn't care about u.

randomperson:
The USA is not the richest country and besides, there are a lot more irreligious people in the US than in Africa and yet, Africans are suffering. The richest countries are usually generally irreligious.
The point am making is this... No god, real or imagined is going to provide for you in spite of any promise to do so...

lol am not a Christian, I just find you ridiculous for saying Christians are the poorest on earth.poverty has no religion or belief,the poorest regions and States in Nigeria are muslim dominated,the China and India has 300 million and 800 million people respectively,56 % of world billionaire are Christians, my point is a Christian or Muslim or atheist can be poor or rich

DoctorAlien:
What was Jesus' net worth when He was on earth? Can you tell me?

The Christian prays "give me this day my daily bread." GOD takes care of His children daily.

The greatest benefit of Christianity lies not in possessing money(which is the root of all evil), but in being at peace with GOD and having an assurance of Heaven.

Tell that lie to the hundreds that died at reigners church in Uyo last week, tell that to the hundreds that died at the collapsed synagogue church building last year. Millions of Christians face tragedies daily just like any other group of people.

No christian has an assurance of heaven, even the Bible says "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven"

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wirinet:
Tell that lie to the hundreds that died at reigners church in Uyo last week, tell that to the hundreds that died when hundreds died at the collapsed synagogue church building last year. Millions of Christians face tragedies daily just like any other group of people.

No christian has an assurance of heaven, even the Bible says "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven"

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If you are devoid of understanding, don't mention me.

Christianity in itself is a concept that doesn't fail to amaze me. How can people be carrying out a monotonous exercise till eternity, I mean worshipping God for all eternity?

So when God's slated day of rapture comes, he will then separate the good from bad and plunge the rest into hell.

And he believes taking such action would shield his beloved heaven against evil? He might as well deny them their mind and make them mindless robots. On second thought, in that case, he shouldn't have given humans the gift of freewill right from the start.

The person who wrote the bible is really a daft.

Allah's paradise seems more promising. Atleast each man to his 77 virgins and there are wines in abundance.

Hanaway:
Christianity in itself is a concept that doesn't fail to amaze me. How can people be carrying out a monotonous exercise till eternity, I mean worshipping God for all eternity?

So when God's slated day of rapture comes, he will then separate the good from bad and plunge the rest into hell.

And he believes taking such action would shield his beloved heaven against evil? He might as well deny them their mind and make them mindless robots. On second thought, in that case, he shouldn't have given humans the gift of freewill right from the start.

The person who wrote the bible is really a daft.

Allah's paradise seems more promising. Atleast each man to his 77 virgins and there are wines in abundance.

Don't worry. GOD will annihilate sinners by the fire of His vengeance. Sinners will cease to exist.

At least the people who wrote the Bible were learned, and they knew how to construct good sentences.

DoctorAlien:
Don't worry. GOD will annihilate sinners by the fire of His vengeance. Sinners will cease to exist.

Then why did he allow satan to stay for this long if our world isn't just God's blockbuster movie?

At least the people who wrote the Bible were learned, and they knew how to construct good sentences.

Your point?

[quote author=Hanaway post=52105016][/quote]So that the charge which Satan brought against GOD(that His rule over Creation is arbitrary and inconsiderate, as opposed to his(Satan's) opinion of independence from GOD) will be proven totally wrong. All Creation would finally agree that only GOD's reign can guarantee peace.

And then the enemy and his cohorts will be obliterated for good.

DoctorAlien:
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If you are devoid of understanding, don't mention me.

And you think you are full of understanding? Religion truly gives the ignorant a false sense of wisdom.

wirinet:
And you think you are full of understanding? Religion truly gives the ignorance a false sense of wisdom.

Exactly.

DoctorAlien:
Don't worry. GOD will annihilate sinners by the fire of His vengeance. Sinners will cease to exist.

At least the people who wrote the Bible were learned, and they knew how to construct good sentences.

Jesus promised to get rid of bad people

Odin promised to get rid of ice giants

I don't see any ice giants, do you?

Hanaway:
Christianity in itself is a concept that doesn't fail to amaze me. How can people be carrying out a monotonous exercise till eternity, I mean worshipping God for all eternity?

So when God's slated day of rapture comes, he will then separate the good from bad and plunge the rest into hell.

And he believes taking such action would shield his beloved heaven against evil? He might as well deny them their mind and make them mindless robots. On second thought, in that case, he shouldn't have given humans the gift of freewill right from the start.

The person who wrote the bible is really a daft.

Allah's paradise seems more promising. Atleast each man to his 77 virgins and there are wines in abundance.

Do not mind them, their God Yahweh or is it Jesus is really an egocentric, insecure and incompetent character. All he wants is praise and ego massaging, his sole reason to exist is to be praised.
His incompetence is legendary, he made heaven and its angels, due to his dictatorial and narcissistic tendencies, half of his angels rebelled against him, which lead to a civil war in heaven. He succeeded in driving them out of heaven. Then he created man and later regretted creating man and so decided to violently distroy man ( along with all other animals that had nothing to do with Man's sins) except one family and a couple of all animals . The descendants of that one family created more problems by sinning over and over again. He got so frustrated at man that he sent his only begotten to be sacrificed as an appeasement to him, in order to forgive man his sins.
There was no peace in heaven, there was no peace in Eden, there is no peace on earth now, what guarantee is there that there would be peace in heaven again after the rupture?

DoctorAlien:
So that the charge which Satan brought against GOD(that His rule over Creation is arbitrary and inconsiderate, as opposed to his(Satan's) opinion of independence from GOD) will be proven totally wrong.

I agree with satan. God is wicked, a tyrant and a sadist who derives pleasure at the expense of our well-being, and he brought satan, along with innocent vulnerable humans into the craft for justification of his endless sadistic game.

All Creation would finally agree that only GOD's reign can guarantee peace.

And then the enemy and his cohorts will be obliterated for good.

Sounds like a crappy movie. But how is God certain that another rebel wouldn't rise up in time to come? I know you will argue he does because he's omniscient, and that he has made proper plan to ensure that it doesn't happen. But he did know satan will rebel before creating him and yet he still went ahead to create him. Or he didn't know? Coughs.

hopefulLandlord:
Jesus promised to get rid of bad people

Odin promised to get rid of ice giants

I don't see any ice giants, do you?

Why not stop bothering yourself with Jesus? Why not enjoy peacefully this one and only life you have?

Maybe you'll find out if it was all true or false when you die(if the LORD tarries)?

Hanaway:
I agree with satan. God is wicked, a tyrant and a sadist who derives pleasure at the expense of our well-being, and he brought satan, along with innocent vulnerable humans into the craft for justification of his endless sadistic game.

But GOD does not exist, right? Run along then.

Sounds like a crappy movie. But how is God certain that another rebel wouldn't rise up in time to come? I know you will argue he does because he's omniscient, and that he has made proper plan to ensure that it doesn't happen. But he did know satan will rebel before creating him and yet he still went ahead to create him. Coughs.

Go and read the Bible. Don't be lazy. Answers to all these are found in there.

DoctorAlien:
But GOD does not exist, right? Run along then.

But you criticise movie characters, right? This guy is a genius.

Go and read the Bible. Don't be lazy. Answers to all these are found in there.

The same nonsense you have been regurgitating? Oh please

Hanaway:
But you criticise movie characters, right? This guy is a genius.



The same nonsense you have been regurgitating? Oh please

Who criticizes movie characters? Nobody is that jobless.

Except maybe you.

Kendzyma:
you should be smwer in the North unleashing terror an boko boys,and not hear to argue about a diety that doesn't care about u.

Lol

DoctorAlien:
Who criticizes movie characters? Nobody is that jobless.

Except maybe you.

I guess someone that spends a large portion of his time defending a fairy tale is rather jobful. Clap for yourself.

Hanaway:
I guess someone that spends a large portion of his time defending a fairy tale is rather jobful. Clap for yourself.

Yes. He is rather "jobful" because that "Fairytale" blesses him daily, and that beyond degree.

What have you gained in your whole life trying to refute/criticize the "Fairytale"?

Hanaway:
Christianity in itself is a concept that doesn't fail to amaze me. How can people be carrying out a monotonous exercise till eternity, I mean worshipping God for all eternity?

So when God's slated day of rapture comes, he will then separate the good from bad and plunge the rest into hell.

And he believes taking such action would shield his beloved heaven against evil? He might as well deny them their mind and make them mindless robots. On second thought, in that case, he shouldn't have given humans the gift of freewill right from the start.

The person who wrote the bible is really a daft.

Allah's paradise seems more promising. Atleast each man to his 77 virgins and there are wines in abundance.

Not only you brother, i equally find those rituals of Abraham's children not only monotonous, but boring.

Am kind of seeing it as symptomatic of OCD.

As for the Roman government that wrote the Bible, they are not daft as such, because they never wrote the Bible for their use.

Roman government wrote the Bible as mental control tool, just like the book- the making of slave. The bible was written to make men accept idiocy and savagery as a way of life.

DoctorAlien:
Don't worry. GOD will annihilate sinners by the fire of His vengeance. Sinners will cease to exist.

At least the people who wrote the Bible were learned, and they knew how to construct good sentences.

Why are you so anticipatorily excited about this illusionary promise of the Jewish doG, to burn itself in hell?

Do you have hideous likeness for roasted human flesh?

Why do you and your scarecrow hate human beings this much?

If i say that the Abrahamic religions adherents, are samples of clinical case of chronic delusion, you will go into the usual and false denial mood.

OP,

Christianity is the only reason I've not considered frying your scrotum for dinner.


Remember, back in the days, your forefathers were killing pregnant women and albino for dinner? That's exactly what you would be doing together, but for Christianity.


You owe God your life. Give it to him or continue to spend the rest of your life seeking answers to questions that never exist.

Cheers.

randomperson:
Cont'd
.... Below is an excerpt from a guardian ( the British not Nigerian) article on hunger in Zambia.
More than 31 million people in the region are said by the UN to need food now, but this number is expected to rise to at least 49 million across almost all of southern Africa by Christmas.

Again in another guardian article...
In the woodlands of southern Zambia hunger arrives with the rhythmic clack of stone against stone as villagers pound open the hard mungongo nuts, a food of last resort for which they compete with monkeys and elephants. The pounding is the only sound in hamlets such as Siatumbu where families slump in front of thatched huts, weakened and tired.

If any Christian can explain how God is fulfilling his promise to provide for them.... Plss get on with it

RANDOMPERSON say he was once a committed christian. His confused comments make one wonder where his commitment was. Was he committed to using his church to get rich ? We all know by know that in the spirit world nothing is hidden. So what was RANDOMPERSON's hidden motives that was exposed in the spirit world and resulted in his expulsion from the light.

RANDOMPERSON's questions show that he know nothing about what he falsely claims he was committed to.

randomperson:
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.... Below is an excerpt from a guardian ( the British not Nigerian) article on hunger in Zambia.
More than 31 million people in the region are said by the UN to need food now, but this number is expected to rise to at least 49 million across almost all of southern Africa by Christmas.

Again in another guardian article...
In the woodlands of southern Zambia hunger arrives with the rhythmic clack of stone against stone as villagers pound open the hard mungongo nuts, a food of last resort for which they compete with monkeys and elephants. The pounding is the only sound in hamlets such as Siatumbu where families slump in front of thatched huts, weakened and tired.

If any Christian can explain how God is fulfilling his promise to provide for them.... Plss get on with it

RANDOMPERSON say he was once a committed christian. His confused comments make one wonder where his commitment was. Was he committed to using his church to get rich ? We all know by know that in the spirit world nothing is hidden. So what was RANDOMPERSON's hidden motives that was exposed in the spirit world and resulted in his expulsion from the light.

RANDOMPERSON's questions show that he know nothing about what he falsely claims he was committed to. To entertain his questions will head us into a mine-field of impossibility.

Jesus said. "Come to me all that are burdened, I will make your burdens light."

If RANDOMPERSON had the courage to secretly watch how Jesus is helping suffering people on Emmanuel TV, he would save us from his ignorant questions.

DoctorAlien:
Yes. He is rather "jobful" because that "Fairytale" blesses him daily, and that beyond degree.

What have you gained in your whole life trying to refute/criticize the "Fairytale"?

Exactly my question.... What exactly are the blessings supposedly accruing to someone who believes in and worships god.... Can u name something that you enjoy that atheists or Muslims don't or something others suffer that Christians don't...

randomperson:
Exactly my question.... What exactly are the blessings supposedly accruing to someone who believes in and worships god.... Can u name something that you enjoy that atheists or Muslims don't or something others suffer that Christians don't...

I can name something that we the followers of Jesus Christ will enjoy, that muslims and atheists can't enjoy.

I can also name something that muslims and atheists will suffer, that the followers of Jesus Christ won't suffer.