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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:10pm On Jan 02, 2017
Mickael2:
I did not want to say this but after watching today's game I think it just might be true. pep wants Nacho to fail! every single game that he plays Nacho he always leaves out an integral part of his team so that the quality of the supply to nacho will be reduced eventually denying him of the possibility to show his talents. he is obviously doing this because the owners of man city love Nacho but they live trophies more, come January when Jesus comes he will point at Nacho's Ned games and crucify him because of that, because I cannot see why Silva did not start this match

You can see why Aguero did not start the game but you can not see why Silva did not start the game. It was less than 48 hrs we played Liverpool in a hard-fought encounter. Guardiola rested Silva and Aguero. Silva is not as young as Kevin De Bruyne to cope with the rigorous schedule.

If Guardiola benches Iheanacho problem. If Guardiola plays him problem.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:14pm On Jan 02, 2017
onirugbon:
Bro I did not watch the gane but from the commentaries I read, Nacho lost 2 good chances.
He had his chance but did not take it.
You cannot blame Pep for that. You can only blame Nacho.

Pep perhaps wanted to conserve the strength of his main team against lowly burnley, and it was up to Nacho to perform. But he didnt.

Perhaps Nacho should take a loan move. I read Watford wants him on loan. He stands a better chance of benching Ighalo and partnering successfully with Isaac and Deneey at Watford which would bring him massive improvements.

The situation at city seems to be killing his confidence.

I say....NACHO SHOULD GO ON LOAN!!


Iheanacho played well. The only problem was the quick reflexes of the Keeper and the tenacious defenders that made it difficult for the forward line. Even Aguero could not score a good opportunity in the box.

Ighalo lost form playing regularly for Watford. I wonder how that can be a good solution for Iheanacho. Let Mazzari work on getting Ighalo's form back before thinking of Iheanacho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:16pm On Jan 02, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
So we are still back to square one.

Explain how Iheanacho's pressing, mobility, aerial presence and stamina improved. Is it by playing regularly?
He will progress better and quicker with games..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:20pm On Jan 02, 2017
tbaba1234:
He will progress better and quicker with games..

Will he have the kind of training he gets at City with the Clubs he will get games? Put it side by side. Top training plus games. At most of these clubs, you do not get the kind of improvement Nacho is showing.

If you watched him move today, you will be impressed.

So the games you want does not assure the kind of growth he is getting.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:21pm On Jan 02, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Will he have the kind of training he gets at City with the Clubs he will get games? Put it side by side. Top training plus games. At most of these clubs, you do not get the kind of improvement Nacho is showing.

If you watched him move today, you will be impressed.

So the games you want does not assure the kind of growth he is getting.
"Iheanacho isn’t the same player he was once. His confidence has taken a hit, I think he plays with lot of pressure as he is unsure what could happen next unlike when Pelligrini was in charge, He is surrounded by players he knows have the trust of the manager unlike during Pelligrini’s reign where he has the trust of the manager and knows it, he has regressed under Guardiola. He is under pressure”.

Michael Owen

I completely agree..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:40pm On Jan 02, 2017
tbaba1234:
Go on loan because he is not getting minutes.. When Aguero was injured, he preferred Nolito and Sterling as his strikers.

Iheanacho should go to a place where he will be given 90 minutes to score and not taken off when he does not score in the first half.
I don't think Iheanacho gets taken off if it is 11 v 11 but point was he started the match. The boy is young and thus the dull game here and there will happen. I think he should give it a go until the season ends.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:47pm On Jan 02, 2017
tbaba1234:
"Iheanacho isn’t the same player he was once. His confidence has taken a hit, I think he plays with lot of pressure as he is unsure what could happen next unlike when Pelligrini was in charge, He is surrounded by players he knows have the trust of the manager unlike during Pelligrini’s reign where he has the trust of the manager and knows it, he has regressed under Guardiola. He is under pressure”.

Michael Owen

I completely agree..

Owen is talking thrash. When does Owen say anything good about City. Owen did not even watch the match. He is a Liverpool fan and watched the Liverpool game.

He only saw highlights and misses.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:52pm On Jan 02, 2017
tbaba1234:
"Iheanacho isn’t the same player he was once. His confidence has taken a hit, I think he plays with lot of pressure as he is unsure what could happen next unlike when Pelligrini was in charge, He is surrounded by players he knows have the trust of the manager unlike during Pelligrini’s reign where he has the trust of the manager and knows it, he has regressed under Guardiola. He is under pressure”.

Michael Owen

I completely agree..

What is Owen talking self. I wish I can sit face to face with people like these and expose their thrash.

The one on one chance Iheanacho missed, the defender tugged Nacho's shirt and denied him an early finish. Nacho opted to beat the keeper and the keeper brilliantly stopped it.

Is that regression?

The curling shot, the defender blocked it. It was a fine shot after a brilliant run by Nacho. Can Owen tell us that Iheanacho used to play that way? Taking ball, making runs, pulling back and taking a curling shot.

Is that improvement or regression?

Owen should rest. Let Owen explain to us how Arfield stayed on the field after such a rash challenge on Sagna. He did not even get yellow.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:54pm On Jan 02, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
I don't think Iheanacho gets taken off if it is 11 v 11 but point was he started the match. The boy is young and thus the dull game here and there will happen. I think he should give it a go until the season ends.
Let Owen go and tell the World how Rashford and Marshall have become Ballon d'Or winners in Manchester United.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
tbaba1234:
"Iheanacho isn’t the same player he was once. His confidence has taken a hit, I think he plays with lot of pressure as he is unsure what could happen next unlike when Pelligrini was in charge, He is surrounded by players he knows have the trust of the manager unlike during Pelligrini’s reign where he has the trust of the manager and knows it, he has regressed under Guardiola. He is under pressure”.

Michael Owen

I completely agree..
LOLS. Just look at Owen. The guy does not know jack about City. The same Pellegrini who left Iheanacho on the bench for so long and kept Bony as his second striker has the trust of Iheanacho.

You can imagine. Then Guardiola who dropped Bony as the second striker and made Iheanacho the second striker does not have the trust of Guardiola. Na waooooooooooooo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:39pm On Jan 02, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Let Owen go and tell the World how Rashford and Marshall have become Ballon d'Or winners in Manchester United.
Ibra already has him busy eating his own balls lol.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 11:32pm On Jan 02, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
LOLS. Just look at Owen. The guy does not know jack about City. The same Pellegrini who left Iheanacho on the bench for so long and kept Bony as his second striker has the trust of Pellegrini.

You can imagine. Then Guardiola who dropped Bony as the second striker and made Iheanacho the second striker does not have the trust of Guardiola. Na waooooooooooooo.
But he tried to sign Aubamayeng, didn't he??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:46pm On Jan 02, 2017
edi287:
But he tried to sign Aubamayeng, didn't he??

Guardiola stopped the Aubameyang deal because of his faith in Nacho. It was Txiki, our Technical director who wanted Aubameyang
.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 12:00am On Jan 03, 2017
tbaba1234:
Mikel Obi joining Valencia on a four year deal... That means no Europe next year since Valencia are battling for their lives.

Good place for Mikel to play though. Regular games will be good for him.
He should've gone to Inter instead. Italy would've suited him better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 12:01am On Jan 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Guardiola stopped the Aubameyang deal because of his faith in Nacho. It was Txiki, our Technical director who wanted Aubameyang
.
Oh I see...thought it was because of his price tag.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:07am On Jan 03, 2017
edi287:
Oh I see...thought it was because of his price tag.

Not price tag. Iheanacho is now fast, on and off the ball. I agree now, we do not need to spend big. With Iheanacho, Sane, Gabriel we can build a formidable attack line.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by princesuko(m): 6:54am On Jan 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Not price tag. Iheanacho is now fast, on and off the ball. I agree now, we do not need to spend big. With Iheanacho, Sane, Gabriel we can build a formidable attack line.
You are delusional of you think that attack will be formidable. grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:30am On Jan 03, 2017
princesuko:
You are delusional of you think that attack will be formidable. grin grin
I doubt you read the word build. I do not mean they will make a formidable attack now. With two years under their belt, these guys will become attacking monsters.

They are just 20 and they are already playing brilliantly.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:47am On Jan 03, 2017
tbaba1234:
"Iheanacho isn’t the same player he was once. His confidence has taken a hit, I think he plays with lot of pressure as he is unsure what could happen next unlike when Pelligrini was in charge, He is surrounded by players he knows have the trust of the manager unlike during Pelligrini’s reign where he has the trust of the manager and knows it, he has regressed under Guardiola. He is under pressure”.

Michael Owen

I completely agree..
I don't agree with this statement.

Players (strikers in particular) have their off days.

Though I also agree he is under pressure.

You can't say because he missed two glaring chances that he has regressed or is regressing. Are goal keepers there for decoration?
That aside, Iheanacho was a new boy to the premier league last season and he shocked most pundits even himself. Defenders have now gotten wary of him. You don't expect them to give him plenty of breathing space any more.

The thing is it is even the Nigerian fans that are the ones putting Iheanacho under pressure more than any others.

Alex Iwobi had a series of poor outings with the climax of scoring an equalizing own-goal against PSG in the UCL. None of you here said he should go on loan.

Kelechi Iheanacho is doing quite fine for me. I totally disagree with Owen on the 'regression' issue.

If Owen says Iheanacho has regressed what will he say of Martial and Rashford?

Iheanacho should stay at ManCity and fight to keep his position. That will bring out the best in him. If Pep feels Gabriel Jesus would replace Iheanacho let us see the Gabriel Jesus start playing first.

For some years now we have decried the lack of Nigerian players in top clubs. We have one there now and you say he should go on loan to where? Somebody even mentioned Watford. sad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:01am On Jan 03, 2017
I think I am liking what Mancity is helping Nigeria do: Converting Iheanacho to a CF. He should keep playing that position even if it is 45mins or 5mins per game. With time he will grow into that our much sought after CF for the Super Eagles.

After watching Iwobi play the "number 10" against Palace over the weekend, I began to think what Rohr would be thinking. Iwobi is a natural "number 10".

I began to think of a formation that would look like:

.................Iheanacho

Etebor(LWF).....Iwobi(AM).....Moses(RWF)


..............Mikel(CM)
...................Onazi/Ndidi(DM)

I chose to play Etebor as LWF forward because of his high mobility which makes him capable of switching from the left side of Midfield to attack. He can also easily support the LB. Also his eye for goal as he easily joins in the attack just like he did at Rio.

I had always wanted to play Iheanacho as the AM because of his work rate and over-all contribution at the edge of the box. But after watching Iwobi play that role I think we can free Iheanacho to play as CF. Iwobi is capable from that position. This team does not need a mediocre CF. Time to offload players like Ighalo and Ideye. Iheanacho could be the man for the CF job.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:11am On Jan 03, 2017
Icon4s:
I think I am liking what Mancity is helping Nigeria do: Converting Iheanacho to a CF. He should keep playing that position even if it is 45mins or 5mins per game. With time he will grow into that our much sought after CF for the Super Eagles.

After watching Iwobi play the "number 10" against Palace over the weekend, I began to think what Rohr would be thinking. Iwobi is a natural "number 10".

I began to think of a formation that would look like:

.................Iheanacho

Etebor(LWF).....Iwobi(AM).....Moses(RWF)



..............Mikel(CM)
...................Onazi/Ndidi(DM)

I chose to play Etebor as LWF forward because of his high mobility which makes him capable of switching from the left side of Midfield to attack. He can also easily support the LB. Also his eye for goal as he easily joins in the attack just like he did at Rio.

I had always wanted to play Iheanacho as the AM because of his work rate and over-all contribution at the edge of the box. But after watching Iwobi play that role I think we can free Iheanacho to play as CF. Iwobi is capable from that position. This team does not need a mediocre CF. Time to offload players like Ighalo and Ideye. Iheanacho could be the man for the CF job.

Icon4s wants to kill somebody's child. See the frightening front line. The work rate and pace from Moses, Etebor and Iheanacho can kill somebody's child.

Awesome front line. With Iwobi behind stringing passes through the created gaps from the pacy players.

Deadly line up boss.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:16am On Jan 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Icon4s wants to kill somebody's child. See the frightening front line. The work rate and pace from Moses, Etebor and Iheanacho can kill somebody's child.

Awesome front line. With Iwobi behind stringing passes through the created gaps from the pacy players.

Deadly line up boss.
grin

That is the way forward bro. We need to kill and bury our opponents. If Iwobi plays behind Iheanacho, let me see how Iheanacho would be isolated and starved of passes. cool

#OPERATIONKILLADNBURYCAMEROUN#
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:23am On Jan 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Icon4s wants to kill somebody's child. See the frightening front line. The work rate and pace from Moses, Etebor and Iheanacho can kill somebody's child.

Awesome front line. With Iwobi behind stringing passes through the created gaps from the pacy players.

Deadly line up boss.
You think say na like that time wey Keshi and Oliseh they kill us with yeye line ups?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lexyman(m): 9:43am On Jan 03, 2017
Icon4s:
I think I am liking what Mancity is helping Nigeria do: Converting Iheanacho to a CF. He should keep playing that position even if it is 45mins or 5mins per game. With time he will grow into that our much sought after CF for the Super Eagles.

After watching Iwobi play the "number 10" against Palace over the weekend, I began to think what Rohr would be thinking. Iwobi is a natural "number 10".

I began to think of a formation that would look like:

.................Iheanacho

Etebor(LWF).....Iwobi(AM).....Moses(RWF) i like this your frontline , they can produce result, Ndidi and Mikel can form another wall , while our oyinbo walls remains in their position , i still don't know why i am beginning to lose hope in Ogenyi Onazi . I STILL DONT KNOW ,


..............Mikel(CM)
...................Onazi/Ndidi(DM)

I chose to play Etebor as LWF forward because of his high mobility which makes him capable of switching from the left side of Midfield to attack. He can also easily support the LB. Also his eye for goal as he easily joins in the attack just like he did at Rio.

I had always wanted to play Iheanacho as the AM because of his work rate and over-all contribution at the edge of the box. But after watching Iwobi play that role I think we can free Iheanacho to play as CF. Iwobi is capable from that position. This team does not need a mediocre CF. Time to offload players like Ighalo and Ideye. Iheanacho could be the man for the CF job.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 11:33am On Jan 03, 2017
Hi Icon Happy New Year great forward line you have there iwobi will eventually end up in the AM role just like his uncle JJ who started on the left before moving permanently to the midfield. With Etebo his versatility as much as it is his strength might be his weakness jack of all trades master of non things. Yes we can move him around depending on the opponent and formation we are employing against them but in the end I see him best operating in the AM/SS role. Iheanacho has been decent in the CF position but I think he would be best playing of a main CF that's why I will not be quick to dump ideye or ighalo at least until osimhen, sadiq, awoniyi etc are ready
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:38am On Jan 03, 2017
chrisooblog:
Hi Icon Happy New Year great forward line you have there iwobi will eventually end up in the AM role just like his uncle JJ who started on the left before moving permanently to the midfield. With Etebo his versatility as much as it is his strength might be his weakness jack of all trades master of non things. Yes we can move him around depending on the opponent and formation we are employing against them but in the end I see him best operating in the AM/SS role. Iheanacho has been decent in the CF position but I think he would be best playing of a main CF that's why I will not be quick to dump ideye or ighalo at least until osimhen, sadiq, awoniyi etc are ready

A three man forward line is ideal and what Icon4s incorporated in his team is an offensive/defensive balance. In the forward line, all have exceptional work rate and help support the defence.

Bringing in someone like Ighalo or Ideye takes that cohesive balance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:40am On Jan 03, 2017
chrisooblog:
Hi Icon Happy New Year great forward line you have there iwobi will eventually end up in the AM role just like his uncle JJ who started on the left before moving permanently to the midfield. With Etebo his versatility as much as it is his strength might be his weakness jack of all trades master of non things. Yes we can move him around depending on the opponent and formation we are employing against them but in the end I see him best operating in the AM/SS role. Iheanacho has been decent in the CF position but I think he would be best playing of a main CF that's why I will not be quick to dump ideye or ighalo at least until osimhen, sadiq, awoniyi etc are ready

If Iheanacho moves to a support striker/midfield role, Iwobi will move to the wing, which defeats the creative passing play from Iwobi Icon4s suggests.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:54am On Jan 03, 2017
chrisooblog:
Hi Icon Happy New Year great forward line you have there iwobi will eventually end up in the AM role just like his uncle JJ who started on the left before moving permanently to the midfield. With Etebo his versatility as much as it is his strength might be his weakness jack of all trades master of non things. Yes we can move him around depending on the opponent and formation we are employing against them but in the end I see him best operating in the AM/SS role. Iheanacho has been decent in the CF position but I think he would be best playing of a main CF that's why I will not be quick to dump ideye or ighalo at least until osimhen, sadiq, awoniyi etc are ready
Atleast Isaac Success and Olanrewaju Kayode are ready. They can replace Ighalo and Ideye IMO.

We have been patient enough for those guys.

As per Etebor's versatility, nothing wrong for his age. This is typical of talented young players.

Iheanacho for eg can play AM, RWF, SS, CF.

Iwobi can play both LWF and RWF, AM and even CM.

Ndidi can play as CB and DM.

Mikel their father can play DM, CM and AM.

A young player's versatility makes him more marketable and very open to team's formation and tactics.

The role Etebor would play in his next "big" move would to a large extent shapen the role he would play both for club and national team in future. I learnt he is on Arsenal's radar alongside Leicester and AS Monaco. 'Would love to see him team-up with Iwobi at the Emirates. wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:55am On Jan 03, 2017
edi287:
Oh I see...thought it was because of his price tag.
Auba was never going to Man city, his dream is Real Madrid and he says he'll wait until he can go there.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:59am On Jan 03, 2017
Icon4s:
Atleast Isaac Success and Olanrewaju Kayode are ready. They can replace Ighalo and Ideye IMO.

We have been patient enough for those guys.

As per Etebor's versatility, nothing wrong for his age. This is typical of talented young players.

Iheanacho for eg can play AM, RWF, SS, CF.

Iwobi can play both LWF and RWF, AM and even CM.

Ndidi can play as CB and DM.

Mikel their father can play DM, CM and AM.

A young player's versatility makes him more marketable and very open to team's formation and tactics.

The role Etebor would play in his next "big" move would to a large extent shapen the role he would play both for club and national team in future. I learnt he is on Arsenal's radar alongside Leicester and AS Monaco. 'Would love to see him team-up with Iwobi at the Emirates. wink
We can't discard Ideye, the team needs his experience. Plus his goal record and performances for us back him up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:03pm On Jan 03, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
We can't discard Ideye, the team needs his experience. Plus his goal record and performances for us back him up.
Even If I am to drop one of Ideye and Ighalo. I would drop Ideye. I would pick Isaac Success over Brown Ideye.

Which experience? Which Goal record and performances for us?

IMO opinion he is an excess luggage in that attack?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:12pm On Jan 03, 2017
Yes Etebo brings defensive cover on the left side but I'm not sure he will perform optimally as a LWF. On iheanacho I get your point about him not taking iwobi's AM position but the issue I'm trying to raise is I want players in positions they can produce maximally. Even if it will involve tweaking the formation at least now we have more talented personnel to try new things out.

TheGoodJoe:

A three man forward line is ideal and what Icon4s incorporated in his team is an offensive/defensive balance. In the forward line, all have exceptional work rate and help support the defence.

Bringing in someone like Ighalo or Ideye takes that cohesive balance.
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