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safarigirl:
@icon4s, chrisooblog, bascovanveli and lexyman

This una line-up, is it long term or short term? Cuz I think you guys are forgetting Osimhen and Nwakali if it's long term

Oh, and icon4s, Iwoni may have had a run of bad games, but no one asked for him to go anywhere because Wenger had faith in him enough to give him continual playing time. I think he only benched him twice or so after the OG incident and it wasn't in the EPL. That is hardly similar to Kelechi who gets 10 minutes sparingly and then a brandom starting slots once in a blue moon

Iwobi and Kelechi's situations are different.

please, I want to ask...which friendly do we have this month?

safarigirl:
@icon4s, chrisooblog, bascovanveli and lexyman

This una line-up, is it long term or short term? Cuz I think you guys are forgetting Osimhen and Nwakali if it's long term

Oh, and icon4s, Iwoni may have had a run of bad games, but no one asked for him to go anywhere because Wenger had faith in him enough to give him continual playing time. I think he only benched him twice or so after the OG incident and it wasn't in the EPL. That is hardly similar to Kelechi who gets 10 minutes sparingly and then a brandom starting slots once in a blue moon

Iwobi and Kelechi's situations are different.

please, I want to ask...which friendly do we have this month?

chrisooblog:
Yes Etebo brings defensive cover on the left side but I'm not sure he will perform optimally as a LWF. On iheanacho I get your point about him not taking iwobi's AM position but the issue I'm trying to raise is I want players in positions they can produce maximally. Even if it will involve tweaking the formation at least now we have more talented personnel to try new things out.

Icon4s:
We are looking forward to the Remaining matches of the 2018 WC qualifiers isn't it? All matches would be played this year 2017.
The nearest one being the double header against Cameroun in August. Do you see Osimhen and K. Nwakali being in the team's first 11 then?
Please give me your view on that.

robosky02:
The proposed January friendly against Egypt in Dubai was cancelled after negotiations broken down between the two sides.

so nothing for january

The latest is against Senegal, the game is scheduled for the March 2017 FIFA window with London the proposed venue.

Icon4s:
Even If I am to drop one of Ideye and Ighalo. I would drop Ideye. I would pick Isaac Success over Brown Ideye.

Which experience? Which Goal record and performances for us?

IMO opinion he is an excess luggage in that attack?

Icon4s:
We are looking forward to the Remaining matches of the 2018 WC qualifiers isn't it? All matches would be played this year 2017.
The nearest one being the double header against Cameroun in August. Do you see Osimhen and K. Nwakali being in the team's first 11 then?
Please give me your view on that.

safarigirl:
that's why I asked 'long term' or 'short term'......BTW, who says 18-year old Osimhen can't start a game by September this year?

BascoVanVeli:
Depends on their progress. Who knew Rashford would make it to France?

Icon4s:
Nothing is impossible.

However, I cannot be drawing a super eagles starting 11 likely to start against Cameroun and the rest of our matches this year and you expect me to include Osimhen and Nwakali.

Let Osimhen start playing games for his club first before we can assess his readiness. K.Nwakali is not likely to break into the Super Eagles starting 11 this year.

safarigirl:
all you had to say was 'short term'

otezu5:
I ve been finding it difficult to log into nairaland with my Username; terzurum5.
I don't know what else to do.
I had no option than to create this one

Anytime I log in this is what I see; "Please refresh this page to complete your login"

Icon4s:
Sorry about that.

seun posted a write up on this issue on front page this morning. You may as well go through it to see if you can find help there.

Icon4s:
Even If I am to drop one of Ideye and Ighalo. I would drop Ideye. I would pick Isaac Success over Brown Ideye.

Which experience? Which Goal record and performances for us?

IMO opinion he is an excess luggage in that attack?

komekn:
Footballers have ups and downs, the question is how long will those ups and downs last.

Sometimes it is a reflection of environment being in the wrong team or needing the right team.

Iwobi has barely had a complete season in the top flight. And we are already putting a world class tag on him, the same thing follows for Kelechi.

I really do not get carried away with the emotional sentiment of being a Nigerian fan. The blind support that is so fickle in my opinion we are setting these boys up to fail. By putting unrealistic expectations on them.

They are very good players but a long way from being World class. It took Raheem Sterling about three seasons to get some consistency.

komekn:
Footballers have ups and downs, the question is how long will those ups and downs last.

Sometimes it is a reflection of environment being in the wrong team or needing the right team.

Iwobi has barely had a complete season in the top flight. And we are already putting a world class tag on him, the same thing follows for Kelechi.

I really do not get carried away with the emotional sentiment of being a Nigerian fan. The blind support that is so fickle in my opinion we are setting these boys up to fail. By putting unrealistic expectations on them.

They are very good players but a long way from being World class . It took Raheem Sterling about three seasons to get some consistency.

daveP:
I huh?? Isaac over Ideye? Never!!!


I'd stick with Ideye that has a we of keeping ours spectator blood pressure down a lil than a success that hasn't gotten a chance to prove himself in English top flight.

Icon4s:
In other words.........TheGoodJoe abeg help me complete am.

You can see and feel the pressure on Iheanacho already.

Iwobi is far less under pressure. Little was heard of him before he broke into the Arsenal starting 11. He has even surpassed many's expectations. I personally initially saw Iwobi as one of those mediocre English press hyped kids just like Akpom, Ibe and the likes. That guy has shown great potentials. Very skillful and plays with so much ease and confidence for a player his age.

Iheanacho on his own part has been tagged (let me borrow a phrase from TheSuerNerd) 'world beater'. The expectation on him is so high and peeps always forget he is just 20years old.

I personally see Iheanacho as a player that would do great things, but whether he would be a 'world beater' it is left to him. It is wrong for people to already start comparing him with Aguero. How was Aguero performing when he was 20? Did he have the kind of killer instinct Iheanacho has now? Aguero grew with time, so let us see Iheanacho grow with time. He is not..

I have learnt to maintain a moderate expectation of these young lads. Whether they would outperform or under perform expectations, it is left to them.

Icon4s:
Isaac Success even at his current state is a kind of player that when he gets hold of the ball you expect something to happen.

Brown Ideye is a kind of player you'll like ....hennnn? so Ideye is playing in this game?

Seriously speaking Isaac Success is about the most unfortunate of this new generation.
You saw how he emerged highest goal scorer at CAF U17 only for him to be hit by injury in the second game of the U17 WC.

During the U20 WC I dnt know how coach Manu would prefer Awoniyi over Success even though Success scored our first goal in the competition. He came in as a sub against North Korea and scored meanwhile Awoniyi that was the favored striker had not seen the back of the net.

God should just deliver him from his injury problems.

Isaac Success has more to offer than Brown Ideye. We don see Ideye finish

TheGoodJoe:

I have followed this thing for two long. I have seen mind blowing talents like Giovanni Dos Santos and Gai Assulin fall on the way. Yet I have seen Aguero and Messi light up the football scene.

The secret (mostly from CR7) is never believe you are good enough. Keep working hard and believe you have more to offer. People like Robinho felt they knew it all and stopped working hard.

Balotelli believed the same and recently confessed that he just started working hard at Nice. So the likes of Iheanacho and Iwobi, K. Nwakali and C. Nwakali, Osimhen and Ndidi need the pressure to keep working hard.

TheGoodJoe:
From your view, Argentina set Messi up to fail when Messi was declared the heir to Maradona's thrown when he was a teenager. What of Neymar who had the tag of having the ability of becoming better than the Brazilian greats.

Have you seen the reviews of Gabriel Jesus? Some tag him as becoming as good as Messi.

When much is expected from young players, they work hard to achieve it. I can say Iheanacho has the best aerial presence among the forward lines of City. It took hardwork and perseverance to achieve that. Iheanacho and De Bruyne stand out in pressing. That is why these players get the tags. It helps them set big goals and work hard to achieve it.

Cristiano Ronaldo will one day be the Michael Jordan of Football... Carlos Queiroz said that about a Teenage CR7

safarigirl:
of course he has the best aerial presence among the forward lines, he's the tallest one

Icon4s:
Yes, depends on their progress. So let us see them make that progress first.

Do you expect me to draw a team list today and put Osimhen's name ahead of Iheanacho's?

onirugbon:
Bro I did not watch the gane but from the commentaries I read, Nacho lost 2 good chances.
He had his chance but did not take it.
You cannot blame Pep for that. You can only blame Nacho.

Pep perhaps wanted to conserve the strength of his main team against lowly burnley, and it was up to Nacho to perform. But he didnt.

Perhaps Nacho should take a loan move. I read Watford wants him on loan. He stands a better chance of benching Ighalo and partnering successfully with Isaac and Deneey at Watford which would bring him massive improvements.

The situation at city seems to be killing his confidence.

I say....NACHO SHOULD GO ON LOAN!!

Icon4s:
Isaac Success even at his current state is a kind of player that when he gets hold of the ball you expect something to happen.

Brown Ideye is a kind of player you'll like ....hennnn? so Ideye is playing in this game?

Seriously speaking Isaac Success is about the most unfortunate of this new generation.
You saw how he emerged highest goal scorer at CAF U17 only for him to be hit by injury in the second game of the U17 WC.

During the U20 WC I dnt know how coach Manu would prefer Awoniyi over Success even though Success scored our first goal in the competition. He came in as a sub against North Korea and scored meanwhile Awoniyi that was the favored striker had not seen the back of the net.

God should just deliver him from his injury problems.

Isaac Success has more to offer than Brown Ideye. We don see Ideye finish

Icon79:
Nonsense! When would you natives stop taking the assessments of the racist English pundits in judging our players?

I watched the game, Nacho didn't miss any chance despite all the craps the commentators were saying. On the first chance, anyone could've missed it because the goalie did a fantastic job in coming out. Hence, you shouldn't call that a miss. For the second chance, the ball just fell awkwardly in between his legs and there was no way he could've gotten a clear shot off. Again, that wasn't his fault.

You guys need to watch the game with your eyes open and quit swallowing every crap those racist pundits spue out. The boy tried his best....he was getting into positions but the selfish Raheem Sterling couldn't get passes to him. And by the way, why isn't anyone talking about Raheem Sterling who lost a a very clear cut chance by failing down when he could've scored? What if Aguero didn't save his blushes? Is it because he plays for England?

BS upon BS!!