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komekn:
There are lot more players who were hyped that did not live up to the hype, than those who did.

Less expectation less pressure more progress in general.

I remember Chrisantus, Rabui Ibrahim (New JJ), Ravel Morrison, Awoniyi, etc, etc.

Balotelli is a victim of racism, deceit, manipulation and misrepresentation. I immediately knew he was going to make it at Nice. His talent was never in doubt, I must add he's a really nice guy too.

BascoVanVeli:
Lets get this clear, Balotelli was a victim of himself.

Icon4s:
I know we have had this argument way back but let me jst cite something here. Aguero, Messi and Christiano Ronlado did not play the U17 world cup. Most of the stars that have emerged form the U20 WC have gone to do great things. Look at Maradona too. But the U17, the only star performer that managed to keep his head above is Sesc Fabregas. Mikel too tried. Don't you think we hype the U17 performance too much in this country?

komekn:
Iwobi has come in with relatively less expectation than most, we are all almost suprised when he does anything exceptional.

Akpom comparatively had huge expectations on his head. I remember a Chukwuma once of Arsenal then on loan to Crewe now I don’t know what's become of him, he once had huge expectations placed on him.

It's better to be unknown while you develop without media attention than have your game assessed under the microscope every time you play. Not every player can take the pressure.

safarigirl:
of course he has the best aerial presence among the forward lines, he's the tallest one

TheGoodJoe:
It is not about height alone but leap. Among all of them, none of them can leap like Iheanacho. That was not a part of his game but under Guardiola he keeps improving on it.

I applauded him yesterday when he lifted up and headed the ball to Yaya. That was not an easy skill to deal with a clearance with such touch. None of the City forwards can pull that off.

TheGoodJoe:
It is not about height alone but leap. Among all of them, none of them can leap like Iheanacho. That was not a part of his game but under Guardiola he keeps improving on it.

I applauded him yesterday when he lifted up and headed the ball to Yaya. That was not an easy skill to deal with a clearance with such touch. None of the City forwards can pull that off.

Icon4s:
I know we have had this argument way back but let me jst cite something here. Aguero, Messi and Christiano Ronlado did not play the U17 world cup. Most of the stars that have emerged form the U20 WC have gone to do great things. Look at Maradona too. But the U17, the only star performer that managed to keep his head above is Sesc Fabregas. Mikel too tried. Don't you think we hype the U17 performance too much in this country?

TheGoodJoe:

Aguero, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Mikel (who Alex Ferguson watched when Eguavoen camped the U17 team at Old Trafford) were tipped for Greatness before they turned 17. When Aguero played the U20 with Messi, Mikel and Fabregas in 2005, he was within the age of 17/18.

That was why Aguero could play in the 2007 U20.

Ronaldinho was tipped for Greatness in the 1997 period when he was U17.

daveP:
I huh?? Isaac over Ideye? Never!!!


I'd stick with Ideye that has a we of keeping ours spectator blood pressure down a lil than a success that hasn't gotten a chance to prove himself in English top flight.

PietroRico:
common this man! Do you have to attribute EVERY SINGLE iheanacho improvement to Pep Guardiola? This is becoming ridiculous tbh.
Iheanacho can leap higher, it must be Guardiola.

joseph1013:
Right now...I take Ideye over Success. Success seems to have a problem with injuries. I saw some Watford fans lamenting his injuries. I wonder how it seems to be like that.

When he gets over his injuries and proves himself, then I will take him over Ideye.

Mickael2:
you do not understand, he meant they were rated not because of their performance at the U17 world cup but because of their performances for their clubs, he wasn't talking about age just the occasion

Mickael2:
not to mention that Ideye's link up play is far better than his own. if we are to play a possession based game we do not need to play a striker that likes taking on players. Benzema does not take on players but his link up play is exceptional and I would easily take him ahead of Aguero who turns selfish most of the time.

BascoVanVeli:
Lol that should have been a yellow card against Sterling, worst dive I've ever seen.

Mickael2:
So he learnt how to jump under pep? Lawd!!!!! is there anything that you won't say to defend this guy? If he has improved so much why wasn't he winning any aerial duel against Huth and Morgan? you gave another flimsy excuse then which I can't even remember again, now because he won a couple of headers against....what is the name of the defenders that Burnley paraded that day? you are now tagging him an aerial beast because of that? Nna eh

Mickael2:
So he learnt how to jump under pep? Lawd!!!!! is there anything that you won't say to defend this guy? If he has improved so much why wasn't he winning any aerial duel against Huth and Morgan? you gave another flimsy excuse then which I can't even remember again, now because he won a couple of headers against....what is the name of the defenders that Burnley paraded that day? you are now tagging him an aerial beast because of that? Nna eh

joseph1013:
Right now...I take Ideye over Success. Success seems to have a problem with injuries. I saw some Watford fans lamenting his injuries. I wonder how it seems to be like that.

When he gets over his injuries and proves himself, then I will take him over Ideye.

TheGoodJoe:

Please, who should we attribute Iheanacho's recent improvement in his leap too? Pellegrini? Vieira?

The first time I saw Iheanacho make a brilliant leap was in the Manchester derby. The one he headed the ball and Kevin De Bruyne scored. That was the early sign. Now he is getting more comfortable winning ball in the air. I see him improving.

Guardiola made his admiration of Peter Crouch's aerial ball control and I expected to see how he could adapt that to Iheanacho.

Recently, Guardiola makes the City team spend two and a half hours a day on practicing to win aerial balls. How do you expect Iheanacho to show improvement in that area and you want Guardiola not to get credit for it?

TheGoodJoe:


Iheanacho is no more rated based on his U17 exploits. We are way past that. Iheanacho's rep came from his first pre-season game under Pellegrini against Sporting Kansas. Iheanacho was the best players among the City players on tour in America. Scored a spectacular goal.

The Goal commentator ended his comment with something like, Pellegrini should sign Iheanacho in the stadium before he leaves.

Iheanacho's rise also in the EDS was also meteoric. Among the bright talents in the academy, he was the one picked as the top promising player. In a short time, Kelechi Iheanacho stood out as a potential bright star.

If you take into context that the City scouts monitored Iheanacho before the U17 World Cup, his EDS exploits already confirmed their belief.

Iheanacho followed that up with another brilliant pre-season and an explosive debut season. He is clearly one of the standout players of the Super Eagles at such a young age. Two CNN goals of the week playing for Nigeria.

I do not think or see how Iheanacho is riding on the U17 conquering exploits.

Icon79:
Injury or no injury, Success is head and shoulders ahead of Ideye. It isn't even a close contest sef. But having said that, his injury problems since joining the EPL is becoming a real concern. And it's weird because he rarely gets injuries when he was in La Liga.

I think we all need to pray seriously for him concerning what's going on in Watford. Something must be wrong somewhere.

O pari

TheGoodJoe:

Understand the message before running in. From the game against Leicester City to Iheanacho's game yesterday. His leap has improved. He is more comfortable going for the ball in the air. I commented once that Iheanacho replicates what Guardiola wants. Try and jump. Try and press. Try and track back. You see the young man exemplifying this on the field.

In the last two games against Liverpool, he is showing much improvement. So, why drag us back to Huth. Please, can you tell me what I am defending?

I am explaining improvements and you are talking defending.

Mickael2:
remind me how he got a work permit to play for city? his arrival at city was because of his exploits at the U17 which granted him a work permit. you keep on mentioning last season, at 20 Messi, Ronaldo and. the rest were already regulars for their clubs which Iheanacho has not managed, my point is that my expectations from Nacho will remain low until he can manage to play 30 games a season then we will see how good he is, not because of a few starts and other substitute appearances.

komekn:
It's very simple the EPL is the toughest and most physically demanding league in the world. Nearly every player who has come from the other continental leagues has to spend some time to beef up and be physically resilient.

Mickael2:
what is the name of the defenders that Burnley paraded yesterday and their heights as well, let's start from their.

Mickael2:
what is the name of the defenders that Burnley paraded yesterday and their heights as well, let's start from their.

komekn:
The height of the defenders is not the overriding statistic. Two things count strength and your jump rate.

I know that the Burnley FC club record for the highest jump rate during thier bench testing in the club is 43inches and the player with that record is well under 6ft.

When you are airborne and if you don't have some physical presence right in the air you will be barged off the ball. I watched Anichebe win every ball in the air when they Sunderland played Liverpool about two weeks ago.

That is something Kelechi can not do its simply not part of his game and he isn't built that way either.

Mickael2:
like yaya toure right? Isaac's injury issues started when he was under 17 not because he came to the premier league. how many games did he play for Granada?