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komekn:
TheGoodJoe,

I really like Kelechi but I am not overly blinded with a fanatical support for him that I cannot appreciate constructive criticism.

I suspect he must be your son thats why he can do no wrong, it's allowed . But please come clean. , na your pikin talk true or at very least your kid brother.

Beeco Shame no deh Lol

TheGoodJoe:

Nice input. Enlightening. The strength issue is a big mystery. Recently, some journalist visited Kevin De Bruyne's home and noticed the absence of weights. He explained that Guardiola wants them as light as possible. Kevin De Bruyne still hinted he was strong but if you notice, City lacks in th physical game. Especially the forwards.

However, there is the essence of speed which helps neutralise the lack of strength. A good example is Iheanacho's display yesterday. He kept on running and evading the defenders. So, if we take the leap, players like Carroll, Crouch and Anichebe can go for the ball without caring about the defending players.

Iheanacho on the other hand evades the defenders before going for the ball. That was why one of the improvements I pointed out of Iheanacho yesterday was his increase in mobility. The young man kept running and I am waiting to see how much he improves from yesterday.

komekn:
TheGoodJoe,

I really like Kelechi but I am not overly blinded with a fanatical support for him that I cannot appreciate constructive criticism.

I suspect he must be your son thats why he can do no wrong, it's allowed . But please come clean. , na your pikin talk true or at very least your kid brother.

Beeco Shame no deh Lol

TheGoodJoe:

You can have low expectations of Iheanacho. I do not. When CR7 was at Manchester United as a youngster, there was no one to compete with him on the right. If David Beckham was there, he would bench and learn from Beckham. Iheanacho has football great ahead of him. Aguero is a scoring beast. That is why he is not playing much games. Finish.

No one is saying Iheanacho did not get work permit through U17. When people talk of Iheanacho at City today, the talk is about his exploit wearing the sky blue Jersey and not U17. He has accomplished some impressive feats at City for us to talk of U17.

Iheanacho did not join City first team with U17 but his pre-season and EDS exploits.

komekn:
Strength is not weight and size, Bruce Lee was very light but stupendously strong.

Across UK clubs I see hundreds of boys and senior players who are all on synthetic protein. It gets you big but not necessarily strong.

I see some skinny Africans who are very strong. Once you start taking that protein you beef up and you loose your mobility.

Kelechi has the right balance he shouldn't try to be something he is not that will spoil his game.

safarigirl:
first time in a while I'm fully agreeing with goodjoe

iheanacho did not make it to City's first team courtesy of the U17, if it was so, Nwakali deserved a similar hand and the Top Scorer of that tournament should have gotten a good deal somewhere.

He played at EDS, he showed great potential during pre-season and his short stint in the US also sealed it for him.

The U17 might have been the pedestal, but it wasn't what promoted him to the senior team or what kept him there over Bony. If he wasn't that good, they would have loaned him out like they did Denayer and a highly rated Roberts and have now done to Maffeo and Angelino.

The boy is good, dazall

goldfish80:
I think I've finally figured out why people are judgmental about Iheanacho's game.
In my opinion, I think the coaches at Man city have concentrated so much on kelechi's shooting and finishing abilities, this have left the play making ability underdeveloped.
It's no coincidence that he has excellent goal to game ratio. He is basically trained as a goal machine.

This have made people notice Iheanacho only when he scores. Because frankly he offers little in games where he doesn't bang one in.

Maybe with the arrival of Jesus, city can concentrate and train him to become the goal scoring machine, whole Iheanacho is left to develop other parts of his game which is his play making abilities. The idea of Man city coaching play making out of kelechi I feel will leave us wondering "what would have been" when he's in the twilight if his career just like Mikel.

When I watch young players like Mbappe and Ousmane Dembele tearing it up their various clubs, one can't help but be jealous as a Nigerian.
While man utd and man city fans argue over kelechi and Rushford, Dembele and Mbappe are posting ridiculous performances. Especially Ousmane Dembele, is absolutely a joke, still only 19 but his level of productivity is crazy.

I feel Iheanacho should up his game and productivity level beyond just scoring. I want people to appreciate his game even when he doesn't score. I believe that could be the POV of Michael Owen.

goldfish80:
I think I've finally figured out why people are judgmental about Iheanacho's game.
In my opinion, I think the coaches at Man city have concentrated so much on kelechi's shooting and finishing abilities, this have left the play making ability underdeveloped.
It's no coincidence that he has excellent goal to game ratio. He is basically trained as a goal machine.

This have made people notice Iheanacho only when he scores. Because frankly he offers little in games where he doesn't bang one in.

Maybe with the arrival of Jesus, city can concentrate and train him to become the goal scoring machine, whole Iheanacho is left to develop other parts of his game which is his play making abilities. The idea of Man city coaching play making out of kelechi I feel will leave us wondering "what would have been" when he's in the twilight if his career just like Mikel.

When I watch young players like Mbappe and Ousmane Dembele tearing it up their various clubs, one can't help but be jealous as a Nigerian.
While man utd and man city fans argue over kelechi and Rushford, Dembele and Mbappe are posting ridiculous performances. Especially Ousmane Dembele, is absolutely a joke, still only 19 but his level of productivity is crazy.

I feel Iheanacho should up his game and productivity level beyond just scoring. I want people to appreciate his game even when he doesn't score. I believe that could be the POV of Michael Owen.

krattoss:
truth be told there is no room for comparism in iheanacho and rashford....


although they play different positions but bringing out the two for a non sentimental soccer fan or coach to choose... rashford will beat nacho hands down...

skills, runs, pace, versatility... common name it..

krattoss:
truth be told there is no room for comparism in iheanacho and rashford....


although they play different positions but bringing out the two for a non sentimental soccer fan or coach to choose... rashford will beat nacho hands down...

skills, runs, pace, versatility... common name it..

Mickael2:
So he learnt how to jump under pep? Lawd!!!!! is there anything that you won't say to defend this guy? If he has improved so much why wasn't he winning any aerial duel against Huth and Morgan? you gave another flimsy excuse then which I can't even remember again, now because he won a couple of headers against....what is the name of the defenders that Burnley paraded that day? you are now tagging him an aerial beast because of that? Nna eh

Sometimes ehn...I will read some comments and will have typed a response only for me to delete it. Na to laugh throw away face for some comments. There is none greater than Lord Pep!

TheGoodJoe:
This have made people notice Iheanacho only when he scores. Because frankly he offers little in games where he doesn't bang one in.

Iheanacho offers a lot but looked down upon if he does not score.

joseph1013:
Sometimes ehn...I will read some comments and will have typed a response only for me to delete it. Na to laugh throw away face for some comments. There is none greater than Lord Pep!

goldfish80:
Even when Iwobi wasn't scoring or assisting, he was being recognised and appreciated for other parts of his game. Against Crystal Palace, he posted 90% pass completion. Even if he didn't score he would be appreciated for his passing.
Same cannot be said about kelechi. What's there to praise him about if he doesn't score? It would be very hard to find.
His dribbled take ons is not up to scratch. It appears his drubbing abilities have been coached out of him at City. That's why I criticised his level of productivity apart from scoring.

OU. Dembele and Mbappe doesn't score a truck load but my God, if you block their way, they will dribble you out of the pitch. Kelechi have lost that dribbling touch apparently.

TheGoodJoe:
Guardiola received 5-0 thrashing. I just pointed Guardiola finding it difficult to grab the complexity of the English game. How do you guys live an comment on fictional points. No one ever said Guardiola is the ultimate.

I made points about Iheanacho. Very clearly written. If you disagree it any thing, point it out.

krattoss:
truth be told there is no room for comparism in iheanacho and rashford....


although they play different positions but bringing out the two for a non sentimental soccer fan or coach to choose... rashford will beat nacho hands down...

skills, runs, pace, versatility... common name it..

TheGoodJoe:

If you want use skills, runs and pace, do you think Wenger will ever bench Chamberlain and Walcott for Iwobi?

krattoss:
lol.. have u forgotten that at a time iwobi was seating on the bench for chambalain... u also forgot that what made iwobi to gain grounds against chambalain was cos of injury isshs..

u also forgot that iwobi is skillful.. and has good touches..

u also forgot that Wenger frequently rotates squads....

bruh what u realy talking about?

goldfish80:
Granted Rashford has all those attributes but Iheanacho has better shooting abilities inside and outside the box. I think he has more positional awareness that Rashford. However, I feel there is more Iheanacho can bring to his game than just shooting and finishing.

TheGoodJoe:

Kelechi Iheanacho plays as a hitman. It is easier to express yourself in any other role but nine. Even Aguero is having it difficult posting dribbles and passing rate.

The cagey games are too much. Iheaacho has a brillianr goal to game ratio if you want scoring. However, he brings in more to the team when you consider his role as a forward.

For instance, he is the only forward who keeps pressure on the defenders and gives room for the midfield players to cause problem for City.

Takes me back to the Algeria game. Iheanacho did not score and many tried running him down. It took the Algerian coach and Journalist to point it out before people calmed down.

Iheanacho's pressing is phenomenal. His work rate is outstanding. These are things Iwobi can not bring to the team. This is harder than staying in the midfield and stringing passes.

TheGoodJoe:

They play different roles. It is like comparing Ikpeba and Tijani Babangida. Tijani will beat Ikpeba hands down in skills, runs and pace. But, you and I know who was the better player.

TheGoodJoe:

Kelechi Iheanacho plays as a hitman. It is easier to express yourself in any other role but nine. Even Aguero is having it difficult posting dribbles and passing rate.

The cagey games are too much. Iheaacho has a brillianr goal to game ratio if you want scoring. However, he brings in more to the team when you consider his role as a forward.

For instance, he is the only forward who keeps pressure on the defenders and gives room for the midfield players to cause problem for City.

Takes me back to the Algeria game. Iheanacho did not score and many tried running him down. It took the Algerian coach and Journalist to point it out before people calmed down.

Iheanacho's pressing is phenomenal. His work rate is outstanding. These are things Iwobi can not bring to the team. This is harder than staying in the midfield and stringing passes.

komekn:
Now you want to bring another dimension that is known but not necessarily openly acknowledged.

Remember that film " White men can't Jump" then add to that African natural athleticism. Then you see there are exceptions most Africans go chop EPL for fun if they have the right attitude, read the game and understand the team philosophy.

The two strongest players in English football if not the World are from Nigeria.

krattoss:
ok... now tell me... irrespective of what and what not the team lacks.. if u are giving iheanacho and rashford to pick one who will u pick.... sentiments apart..

komekn:
Why do you say that?

krattoss:
truth be told there is no room for comparism in iheanacho and rashford....


although they play different positions but bringing out the two for a non sentimental soccer fan or coach to choose... rashford will beat nacho hands down...

skills, runs, pace, versatility... common name it..

goldfish80:
To be honest, there is no straight forward answer to this question.
Depending on how I want my team to set up.
If I want my team to set up as a strong counter attacking unity, I would go for Rashford. If I want my team to play possession based game, I will play Kelechi as a second striker.

Mickael2:
In a counter attacking team, Nacho would still perform better than Rashford. all of Nacho's goals this season have come from quick counter attacks, In fact that's his strong point