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Icon4s:
Isaac Success even at his current state is a kind of player that when he gets hold of the ball you expect something to happen.

Brown Ideye is a kind of player you'll like ....hennnn? so Ideye is playing in this game?

Seriously speaking Isaac Success is about the most unfortunate of this new generation.
You saw how he emerged highest goal scorer at CAF U17 only for him to be hit by injury in the second game of the U17 WC.

During the U20 WC I dnt know how coach Manu would prefer Awoniyi over Success even though Success scored our first goal in the competition. He came in as a sub against North Korea and scored meanwhile Awoniyi that was the favored striker had not seen the back of the net.

God should just deliver him from his injury problems.

Isaac Success has more to offer than Brown Ideye. We don see Ideye finish

joseph1013:
Right now...I take Ideye over Success. Success seems to have a problem with injuries. I saw some Watford fans lamenting his injuries. I wonder how it seems to be like that.

When he gets over his injuries and proves himself, then I will take him over Ideye.

TheGoodJoe:


I will not answer the question because it does not prove that total distance covered is strictly by pressing.

I did not say pressing does not cover distance. That is ridiculous. I said, total distance covered consist more than pressing.

When a team is pressing, they do not have the ball. When they are are with the ball, they still cover distance.

This is the blatant truth. You can not deviate it.

goldfish80:
Pressing on its own is all about running. How do you calculate distance covered while running?
I've cited Dortmond as an example earlier. They cover an average distance of 120km per 90 mins. This like the distance from Lagos to Ibadan.
Dortmond aren't known to be a heavy possession side rather they are known to be a hard pressing team.

TheGoodJoe:
Are you saying total distance covered only have to do with pressing? Answer no and let us sleep.

TheGoodJoe:

What is pressing not running after goal keepers? Na wa. Did you read when I said Mikel pressed Xavi? Ha. Is Xavi a keeper to you?

I have seen it all.

TheGoodJoe:
Are you saying total distance covered only have to do with pressing? Answer no and let us sleep.

TheGoodJoe:
Are you saying total distance covered only have to do with pressing? Answer no and let us sleep.

goldfish80:
If you're playing in a heavy possession team, distance covered will have to be mostly from keeping possession like Barcelona.
In a counter attacking team, distance covered will mostly come from chasing after the ball.

princesuko:
Which Season did Mikel Press Xavi? Sure as hell wasn't in 2012 or In 2009 , You Guys here will start churning out rubbish and start stating it as facts.

You Even said Iheancho is a better Presser than Nolito?

princesuko:
How do you press without covering distances? All this Nairaland Analyst self . Tell Me how does Sampaoli team rank in distance covered in Laliga or will you say they don't press?

TheGoodJoe:


Yes. Iheanacho presses better than Nolito. Nolito outclasses Iheanacho in tracking back.

Go and read reviews of how Chelsea neutralised Barcelona in th Champions League in the season Chelsea won the Champions League. Check out Mikel's role before coming back.

princesuko:
How does Nacho Presses better than Nolito when he doesn't track back, Cover-More Distance Per Game?

Got any Links? Very Sure Xavi wasn't Man Marked Or Pressed My Xavi in the 2-2 draw.

princesuko:
How does Nacho Presses better than Nolito when he doesn't track back, Cover-More Distance Per Game?

Got any Links? Very Sure Xavi wasn't Man Marked Or Pressed My Xavi in the 2-2 draw.

princesuko:
How does Nacho Presses better than Nolito when he doesn't track back, Cover-More Distance Per Game?

Got any Links? Very Sure Xavi wasn't Man Marked Or Pressed My Xavi in the 2-2 draw.

komekn:
I'm not sure what your point is

Wanyama is Kenyan I know, I talked of African athleticism in general not specifically Nigerian.

tbaba1234:
Kelechi is not just having an off-day. The coach is not willing to give him a chance even when Aguero is out. A period on loan as the main man somewhere will boost his game and confidence, preparing him for the kind of fight, he needs to make at man city.

Kelechi is not the finished article, he needs games to refine the weak elements of his game. We want the best for him, even if it does not happen at Man city.

joseph1013:
Right now...I take Ideye over Success. Success seems to have a problem with injuries. I saw some Watford fans lamenting his injuries. I wonder how it seems to be like that.

When he gets over his injuries and proves himself, then I will take him over Ideye.

Icon4s:
You must always remember that Iheanacho is a second choice striker to Aguero.

You mentioned in your last paragraph that he is not the finished article, which is what I have been saying since last year and almost got my head chopped off for it.

Even when Aguero is injured Pep still did not have this high level of confidence on the boy. Pep knows Iheanacho more than even the most fanatic Iheanacho fan here. Pep knows the ability of every single player in the squad. He knows when and when not to play each player. The nature of the opposing defense also plays a part here. When Aguero is injured, he may chose to play De' Bruyne, Nolito or Iheanacho depending on the tactics he wants to adopt to unlock the opposing defense. I am sure you know by now that if Iheanacho plays as CF the best way of stopping Iheanacho is by cut-off the ball supplies to him.

I laugh when I see comments like "Pep purposefully played Navas with Iheanacho so he won't attain his full game level. Why didn't he start Silva with Iheanacho?". Do you think Pep would want to put 3 vital points at stake just bc he is trying disarm Iheanacho? At this critical stage when every win is vital for the title race?

Iheanacho should not go on any loan spell in my Opinion. He should stay at City and fight for his place in the starting line-up. That competition would make himbetter. Besides, age is not on Aguero's side any more. This and maybe next season may jst mark his "crescendo". Iheanacho may just have a fantastic future ahead of him at City.

Kog45:
I always love pundits that are precise in their analysis and u are one of them here on nairaland.My question is this,is success better than Ideye when w talk of national team,club football,experience and injury history.

Firstly,national team d two should not be compared.Ideye has made is mark in d national team(afcon 2013)his contributions in that tournament was superb and enormous,though he lost his place in d team but later earned a recalled due to his current form but national team experience nothing can be said of Success.

Club football,i know a lot w said Ideye couldn't make it in EPL but forgetting w have a lot of super stars like de Maria,Baloteli,veron,Shevchenko that failed woefully in Premiership.Apart from being flopped at west brom,Ideye has been a good striker in his various club sides.He had a better club goal ratios than success,though injuries did not help success.

I don't know why w are clamouring for injury prone striker as d answer to eagles striking position.No doubt Success has d talent,d skill,d strength and pace but goal ratio is not d solution and to make matter worst very prone to injury and no coach w bank on injury prone player.Pls ask Anichebe,if not for injuries that hampered his football career and still hampering it,i w rate him than any other present Eagles strikers but i cannot pick him coz is injury prone.

I w never forget what happened during u17 that Awoniyi needs to come in for injured Success and salvaged d situation,success injury nearly ruined our chances at d tournament and till today d guy is still battling with injuries.

The question is this do w need to bank on injury prone player and to make d matter worst w are even rating him higher than players who have showed us what they can do in d national team.

Iheanacho rise in d national team doesn't gives player like success an automatic shirt in d national team coz in this thread w have been hearing Nwakili,Osimihen,Nwobodo,pls national team are not for kids but super kids like Iheanacho,Iwobi,Ndidi who proved to us they have it all to slug it out with big boys.

I remember against Algeria d big boys raised to d occasion to save us namely Mikel,Moses and Musa when he came in

A free injury Success should prove himself at Watford first b4 national team.

Oasis007:
IHEANACHO NOT THE SAME PLAYER UNDER GUARDIOLA - OWEN

"Iheanacho isn’t the same player he was once," Owen told BT Sport. "His confidence has taken a hit, I think he plays with lot of pressure as he is unsure what could happen next unlike when Pellegrini was in charge.

"He is surrounded by players he knows have the trust of the manager unlike during Pellegrini’s reign where he has the trust of the manager and knows it. 

"He has regressed under Guardiola. He is under pressure."

http://m.goal.com/s/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2017/01/03/31117242/iheanacho-not-the-same-player-under-guardiola-owen?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2F8wedk9Q2zk

Kog45:
I always love pundits that are precise in their analysis and u are one of them here on nairaland.My question is this,is success better than Ideye when w talk of national team,club football,experience and injury history.

Firstly,national team d two should not be compared.Ideye has made is mark in d national team(afcon 2013)his contributions in that tournament was superb and enormous,though he lost his place in d team but later earned a recalled due to his current form but national team experience nothing can be said of Success.

Club football,i know a lot w said Ideye couldn't make it in EPL but forgetting w have a lot of super stars like de Maria,Baloteli,veron,Shevchenko that failed woefully in Premiership.Apart from being flopped at west brom,Ideye has been a good striker in his various club sides.He had a better club goal ratios than success,though injuries did not help success.

I don't know why w are clamouring for injury prone striker as d answer to eagles striking position.No doubt Success has d talent,d skill,d strength and pace but goal ratio is not d solution and to make matter worst very prone to injury and no coach w bank on injury prone player.Pls ask Anichebe,if not for injuries that hampered his football career and still hampering it,i w rate him than any other present Eagles strikers but i cannot pick him coz is injury prone.

I w never forget what happened during u17 that Awoniyi needs to come in for injured Success and salvaged d situation,success injury nearly ruined our chances at d tournament and till today d guy is still battling with injuries.

The question is this do w need to bank on injury prone player and to make d matter worst w are even rating him higher than players who have showed us what they can do in d national team.

Iheanacho rise in d national team doesn't gives player like success an automatic shirt in d national team coz in this thread w have been hearing Nwakili,Osimihen,Nwobodo,pls national team are not for kids but super kids like Iheanacho,Iwobi,Ndidi who proved to us they have it all to slug it out with big boys.

I remember against Algeria d big boys raised to d occasion to save us namely Mikel,Moses and Musa when he came in

A free injury Success should prove himself at Watford first b4 national team.

Icon4s:
You must always remember that Iheanacho is a second choice striker to Aguero.

You mentioned in your last paragraph that he is not the finished article, which is what I have been saying since last year and almost got my head chopped off for it.

Even when Aguero is injured Pep still did not have this high level of confidence on the boy. Pep knows Iheanacho more than even the most fanatic Iheanacho fan here. Pep knows the ability of every single player in the squad. He knows when and when not to play each player. The nature of the opposing defense also plays a part here. When Aguero is injured, he may chose to play De' Bruyne, Nolito or Iheanacho depending on the tactics he wants to adopt to unlock the opposing defense. I am sure you know by now that if Iheanacho plays as CF the best way of stopping him is to cut-off the ball supplies to him. You isolate him from the midfielders.

I laugh when I see comments like "Pep purposefully played Navas with Iheanacho so he won't attain his full game level. Why didn't he start Silva with Iheanacho?". Do you think Pep would want to put 3 vital points at stake just bc he is trying disarm Iheanacho? At this critical stage when every win is vital for the title race?

Iheanacho should not go on any loan spell in my Opinion. He should stay at City and fight for his place in the starting line-up. That competition would make himbetter. Besides, age is not on Aguero's side any more. This and maybe next season may jst mark his "crescendo". Iheanacho may just have a fantastic future ahead of him at City.

Mickael2:
So you'd rather have Iheanacho as a second striker at City? crouch was once the first choice striker for England when he was at lowly Portsmouth, Alcacer was the main striker for Spain when he was at lowly Valencia. Iheanacho should move out, even if it means getting out of England. telling me that you want iheanacho to stay as a second striker at City just because you want a Nigerian in a top club is pure BS, no offence.

let me ask you a simple question, why did pep bring in Silva with Aguero? why didn't he bring in Aguero alone let's see him work his magic. or why didn't he bring in Silva alone with Iheanacho up top? I am abysmally shocked that you didn't reason that. he brought in Aguero and also provided a provider for him which Iheancho was lacking! do you think I just woke up and typed that? I watched it closely. which you obviously didn't.

CODMOK:
Rohr Slams Eagles Door On Enyeama – I Called Him Over 10 Times And He Never Responded Nor Call Back




Coach of the Super Eagles of Nigeria Gernot Rohr has given up on trying to convince former goalkepper Vincent Enyeama to come out of retirement and play for Nigeria.

Rohr ruled out any future contact with the Lille man after revealing that the 33 year old appears to have made up his mind to stick to his international retirement.

The Franco German coach said he tried reaching out at Enyeama when they had a goalkepper crisis before the game against Algeria, but Enyeama failed to take his calls and didn’t return them later.

” When we had crisis in our hands after Carl Ikeme’s injury, I called him (Enyeama) over 10 times and he never responded nor called back”, Rohr said to Owngoalnigeria.com.

” I am happy with how Daniel Akpeyi responded to the test when he was called up as emergency cover, but he needs to buckle up because we can’t solely depend on Ikeme”.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/04/rohr-slams-eagles-door-on-enyeama-i-called-him-over-10-times-and-he-never-responded-nor-call-back/

TheGoodJoe:

No one said Iheanacho is a finished article. If you remember when I said I would not mind Iheanacho benching and learning from Guardiola. If he was a finished article or people thought he was a finished article, will there be talks of him learning?

The point was compared to the likes of Ighalo and Bony, Iheanacho was a better choice. So if it was Bony/Ighalo there, Iheanacho was there. However, the young man has a long way to go. He will keep getting better.

Icon4s:
So you sincerely think at this critical stage in the league title chase that Pep would purposefully put 3 points on the line just in a bid to disarm Iheanacho? He simply did a squad rotation. Silva has been playing in almost all of City's recent games which included the hectic xmas fixtures. Una wan kill Silva? You have a Navas in the team so why not use him against Burnley. Not as if they were to play any of the top 6 teams.

As for Iheanacho going on a loan move, me no agree o. He should still compete at City. Not just bc I want Nigerian players in big teams but because I want him to compete with the best. That would bring out the best in him.

Icon4s:
Have I ever told you Ighalo was "there'? Go back and read up all my comments about Ighalo.

As for comparison of Iheanacho with other players. I recall u guys said there was no room for comparison that he was on a class of his own. Your expectation on that boy is just too much.