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| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:24am On Jan 04, 2017 |
joseph1013:Reason why I don't expect too much from these young African players. You no like Isaac Success pass me. He was the main star of his class of Golden Eaglets then followed by Musa Yahaya and Kelchi Iheanacho. Success is loaded but something is wrong somewhere. I hope he does not go the way of other disappointing former youth internationals. Another player I am getting worried about is Musa Yahaya. He got married on xmas Eve. Well, Goodluck to him. An injury free Success has more to offer than Brown Ideye. I jst hope he gets out of his injury mess as quickly as possible. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:24am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Mickael2:Agreed,let iheanacho continue developing at man city and player like Iwobi continue having a playing time under a coach who is far better than Guardiola when it comes to player development. This is d mistake Mikel made at chelsea developing under a wrong but world class coach Mourinho,anytime i watched Mikel i always shaking my head why should a talent be wasting like this(Nig vs Spain)but thank God he was still able to achieve but not at his potential coz he found himself at cross road,a DM at chelsea and AM/CM at S/E. We are going towards that line again regards Iheanaho and i said time w tell may be d guy is developing or not.If not for Mikel talent that keeps him on which i don't think any Nigeria player have for now,w should have forget about him. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:27am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Mickael2:Yeah. I know Iheanacho is a great talent but I am jst following his progress as he develops. If he turns out another Messi or Ronaldo, Fine and good for him and his career. Else, we move on. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:31am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Kog45:you are there. I remember in 2006 my brother said that move was a bad move, I was laughing at him because he is a Manu fan but he had the last laugh. he said the same thing when Iheanacho moved to city and last season I thought it was going to backfire but now if Iheanacho decides to stay there then 5 years from now we will be looking at exactly the same scenario. by the way, can I just point out that you are making a lot if sense today, what did you have for breakfast? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:33am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Kog45:Time will tell. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:49am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Kog45:is it Nwobodo you're calling kids? Pesin wey win NPFL and is heading to African Champions League? Is that who you're grouping with Nwakali and Osimhen? Is he their mate? Because e no dey Europe..... Na wa |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:50am On Jan 04, 2017*. Modified: 3:50pm On Jan 04, 2017 |
Mickael2:Don't be happy that w share d same view on this,2moro i can land on u when i don't believe in your analysis. Read my post or comments on this thread very well,it takes very intelligent guys who knows football to always thumb up.No be today,have been watching d games as far back 80s and even played it during my school days(university level)with player like ex eagle like seyi olofinjana and ex polish international Nigerian born Emma Olisadebe just to mention a few. So coming here is to share ideas and learn more about football irrespective of age or where u come from and to be candid i ve gained a lot coz i remember telling my white friend how superlatives are Nigeria footballers citing a lot of examples from this thread. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 9:58am On Jan 04, 2017*. Modified: 10:15am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Mickael2:He said English football. I took it to mean from EPL to League 2, may be further, since he seem quite vast in the lower divisions. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:01am On Jan 04, 2017 |
safarigirl:Well i don't know his age or know him very well coz of recent i don't have d opportunity of watching Nigeria league coz am not in d country but it was from this thread i read a lot about him. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:02am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Kog45:Did you ever watch Success play at Granada? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:02am On Jan 04, 2017 |
To me Iheanacho has had a good season so far but I know he can do much better. He needs to learn how to show up when the going gets tough. The obvious next step is to start deciding matches for city like he does for the eagles. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:03am On Jan 04, 2017 |
safarigirl:U know say Kog45 na elder so Nwobodo na pikin for him side ![]() |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:04am On Jan 04, 2017*. Modified: 10:50am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Icon4s:Yes o na pikin,i just discovered that d guy is just 20 years,so what really make him older than d likes of Nnwakili and Osimieh?pls sir icon explain coz to me they belong to d same age group 18-20. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:04am On Jan 04, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:That is it. I am with you on this. You have just smartly summarized all these arguments. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 10:11am On Jan 04, 2017 |
CODMOK:LOL. Person say e no play again, na by force? TheSuperNerd, where are you? Miss you! Happy New Year! |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:20am On Jan 04, 2017*. Modified: 10:45am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Icon4s:Yes but very few games but as in goal ratios is not better than most current eagles strikers like Ighalo,ideye,Iheanacho,Musa,though stand to be corrected. 2014-2016 Granada 49 matches /7 goals,though very good,talented footballer with good skills and delight to watch |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 10:22am On Jan 04, 2017 |
Kog45:About Nwobodo, I don't think anyone is saying he should have an automatic shirt in the Eagles. He is a player that has proven himself wherever he goes. From U20 to U23. He was also one of the best players when Enugu Rangers won the Nigerian League last season. I can tell you that he is impressive. What those who know him well are saying is that he should be given an opportunity to slug it out with the other guys in the national team. Sometimes ehn, opportunity is all it takes. I was reading what that Man Utd scout said about Ndidi at Nath Boys, it's all about him being at the right place at the right time. We have better players than him in the grassroots all over Nigeria. For Nwobodo, an opportunity to compete with his countrymen in Camp is not too much. Same happened to Sunday Mba and Godfrey Oboabona under Keshi. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:26am On Jan 04, 2017 |
"Who say Victor who will be playing in the bundesliga cannot come and play as our number nine?" - Rohr. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 10:34am On Jan 04, 2017*. Modified: 11:49am On Jan 04, 2017 |
” Victor Osimhen is having a good beginning at Wolfsburg. I spoke with Wolfsburg manager and he said Victor is doing very well. Who says Victor who will be playing in the Bundesliga cannot come and play as our number nine?”, Rohr asked in Lagos. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:35am On Jan 04, 2017 |
joseph1013:Am not saying young ones should not be given a chance but there must be decency in it. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:44am On Jan 04, 2017 |
joseph1013:He is d coach and he has every right to determine who come to national team but that doesn't stop us from be a critique to some of his decision. Well from Algeria match,i realised d no 9 position is for grab irrespective of your age or where u come from,if u delivered is your position for good Rohr is looking for solution and Osamieh is part of his plan and let wait and see if d boy w grab d opportunity. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:03am On Jan 04, 2017 |
joseph1013:Akinfenwa and Elokobi are reputed to be the strongest football players in the world. Elokobi is actually from Cameroon, I actually thought he was Nigerian his English is good and his name seemed Nigerian to me, my mistaken assumption. I watched Akinfenwa play against Liverpool in the FA cup two years ago ragging around Liverpool's central defenders like small school boys it was great fun, he even did some skill. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:07am On Jan 04, 2017 |
joseph1013:As good as Nwobodo is, it appears Chisom Egbuchulam doesn't get enough mention on this thread. I hope we aren't getting to carried away with foreign born players to the detriment of home grown lads. It will be a shame if that's the case. Chisom for my money is the real deal. If he was born abroad he will be mentioned in the same light as Mbappe and Dembele. The guy is the real definition of a modern wide foward. With the recent partnership between the LMC and La liga, I felt the MOU should cover some areas like the best player in the league going to train with top La liga teams in view of getting a contract. It would be ridiculous if Chisom ends up in Tunisia. His game has gone beyond the African continent in my opinion. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:38am On Jan 04, 2017 |
I have some questions about the German league, you have 4/5 teams at the top and the rest are pretty much average. I would say the lower level teams of the Bundislega are on par or below the English championship. That doesn't mean quality players are not available but it's a smaller pool than the English leagues particularly where Nigerian players are concerned. Football is about opportunity and unfortunately the politics of opportunity will prevent some Nigerian players from being seen. I remember Danny Shittu one of our best defenders ever was left to rot at Bolton for two years when he played for Nigeria . When he left he was voted best defender in the championship. Rohr is biased towards the German and Dutch league's which is not his fault it's where his knowledge and network is predominant. There are a lot of boys who will Suprise us dramatically who will not get coverage some are playing in the reserve for top teams. Dominic Ayodele Solanke voted best young mens player 2015, and Olu Aina right back and don't forget Tega Abrahams third highest goal scorer in the championship all are Chelsea players. Or I remember Onuma (Tega) at Tottenham midfielder 19 years old. In all honesty across all leagues we have at least 25 quality boys who could compete. For instance Ademola Lookman 19 years old should be completing a medical for Everton bought for £10 million any moment now. He plays for league 1 club Charlton Athletic, to be honest I was honestly suprised at the fee. England has the highest number of football young talents of Nigerian origin in the World outside of Nigeria. There is not a top premiership academy without at least 10 Nigerian origin players. Liverpool fc probably has about 25 across all age groups. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 11:45am On Jan 04, 2017 |
goldfish80:I know you are a Rangers fan so your comment can be excused. I say the Tunisian deal is probably the best he can get for a 29-year old striker. The only reason I'm in for Nwobodo is because he is still young, I won't bother even if he is 27. Chisom is in his last stages as a footballer, especially when you consider that for lack of MRI, his real age cannot really be ascertained. From the little I know about Rohr, he seems not to care where you play as long as you produce results. Therefore, if he was indeed better than the other boys during the Zambia-Nigeria camp, he would have played. He would even have been invited for the Algerian game. I say we look further ahead. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 11:49am On Jan 04, 2017 |
joseph1013:If the treatment of Kelechi at City continues, don't you guys think it will be a straight battle between Victor and Kelechi for the number 9 spot? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:52am On Jan 04, 2017 |
I hope we aren't getting to carried away with foreign born players to the detriment of home grown lads. It will be a shame if that's the case. Goldfish80, I am not sure why it will be a shame? So if you are born or grow up outside Nigeria you are less Nigerian. The diaspora dynamics are a major factor of Nigerian life in every area that cannot be ignored. There is talk if us exercising our right to vote in Nigeria right here in the UK. Talent is talent whether in Obalende or Peckham all deh chop pounded yam. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:00pm On Jan 04, 2017 |
joseph1013:You are narrowing your talent pool to just two players. Big clubs have big money and very very little patience success is needed now not tomorrow. If you cannot produce the trophies required you are out. Guardiola needs immediate success he has no loyalty to any player he has one loyalty and that is SUCCESS at all costs. For the first time in his managerial career he is not in 1 or 2 horse race. Kelechi is not a world class striker to produce the results he needs, he may indeed become but right now it's going to be tough for him. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:01pm On Jan 04, 2017 |
joseph1013:Which Chisom is 29? Chisom was poached by Rangers from Ingas academy at just 19 in 2013. You can do the maths to figure out his age. Infact if you must know, his parents signed a consent form before when signed for Rangers. When he made his debut, people were shocked how such a small boy was playing for Rangers. Chisom didn't add a day to his age. You just have to belive me. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:04pm On Jan 04, 2017 |
Kog45:He was played as a winger. So to judge with goals ratio against strikers is not fair. Success talent-wise IMHO is up there with the likes of Iheanacho and Iwobi. He has just been so unfortunate with injuries. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:06pm On Jan 04, 2017 |
joseph1013:Let Victor Osimhen start playing professional football first before I can say anything. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:11pm On Jan 04, 2017 |
komekn:It will be a shame if home grown player's development is neglected while we focus solemnly on foreign born/based players. Our football can't develop that way. In just 2 weeks, a home based player can turn to a foreign based player and the minute he goes abroad, he is recognised. Such attitude wouldn't help anyone. I remember Akpala getting a called up by Eguavoen to the Afcon 2006 squad the minute he signed for Standard Liege from Bendel Insurance. Its a shame to be honest. |
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