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goldfish80:
LOL... Why did Guardiola buy an experienced Claudio Bravo?
Am sure there must be a couple of 19yr olds in the Man city academy

goldfish80:
LOL... Why did Guardiola buy an experienced Claudio Bravo?
Am sure there must be a couple of 19yr olds in the Man city academy

TheGoodJoe:
Bravo was the only top quality goalkeeper good with his feet Guardiola could land. If you followed the transfer news, Guardiola wanted Ter Stegen who is younger and less experienced than Bravo. Barcelona turned down the deal and preferred to sell the more experienced one.

Why?

Because ter Stergen is better.

Think better, not experience.

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goldfish80:
So in Man city £200 million academy, there is no single 19yr old goalkeeper who is decent with his feet?

TheGoodJoe:

Note, I did not say younger but better. If a younger midfielder is better than Mikel, He should play ahead of Mikel. If we can not find a younger midfielder better than Mikel, Mikel should keep his position.

Not younger but better. Not experience but better.

goldfish80:
So in Man city £200 million academy, there is no single 19yr old goalkeeper who is decent with his feet?

goldfish80:
But Alampasu haven't kept a clean sheet all season for his 3 division Portuguese club. How can you compare him with a Psl player? club captain, with 2/3 clean sheets?
What exactly makes you think Alampasu is better?

safarigirl:
I don't know why they won't even promote Angus Gunn properly, if Bravo can be first choice, Angus deserves a shot because Bravo is woeful by any standard

goldfish80:
The point am trying to make is that TheGoodJoe would defend Guardiola for spending alot to get an experienced goalkeeper but would frown at Rohr for choosing experience ahead of a crucial world cup qualifier.
Am sure for all the qualities of Bravo, there is a young keeper in the academy Guardiola should have promoted.

TheGoodJoe:

Tell me two top quality young goalkeepers apart from ter Stegen better than Bravo with their feet. It seems you are forgetting that Guardiola joined City this season and the demand for keepers good with their feet just kicked off.

In the academy now, they are training the keepers on it. Angus Gunn talked about it too.

So Bravo is there because he is better, not experienced.

safarigirl:
I don't know why they won't even promote Angus Gunn properly, if Bravo can be first choice, Angus deserves a shot because Bravo is woeful by any standard

goldfish80:
Pickford the young Sunderland keeper is a superb keeper with good left foot.
For the £200m pumped into the city academy, is there no keeper as decent as Pickford?

TheGoodJoe:

Bravo looks woeful if you look at the goals he is conceding. That is due to the defence and some time defensive midfield not aligning with the ball handling philosophy Guardiola demands.

To understand the importance of Bravo and why Willy Caballero and Angus Gunn will remain behind Bravo for now, watch how many times our defenders pass to Bravo under pressure. By

Watch his clearances and his connecting passes. That can not do it like Bravo and Bravo keeps the position.

TheGoodJoe:

Are you saying Pickford is better than Bravo with his feet? Or you just throwing names. Are you saying Pickford will distribute the ball better than Bravo? If he can not, I do not get why his name is here.

safarigirl:
a keeper's priority is to ensure balls don't get into his net. That is the main reason he's on that pitch, so all these things about footwork and distribution of balls, is he a keeper or a ballet dancer?

A goalie with these attributes who can't keep out goals is like a striker with good footwork and dribbling skills who can't score goals

TheGoodJoe:

Are you saying Pickford is better than Bravo with his feet? Or you just throwing names. Are you saying Pickford will distribute the ball better than Bravo? If he can not, I do not get why his name is here.

Petrobros:
You are being sentimental over this issue. I may not be a regular in making comments here but I am a regular in reading comments.

I follow arguments here a lot. I recall, one of those arguments that Icon4s stated that most of those Manu boys are not likely to make it to the Super Eagles and I know how u and TheSuperNerd took him up on it. I recall he referred to the 93 Eaglets of having produced the highest number of players that went on to play for the Flying Eagles. 5 Players I think u guys listed.

You see, I am following.

We are all watching together. Only two Manu U17 WC winning boys have made it to the Super Eagles-Iheanacho and Musa Mohammed. I was initially against icon4s on that issue but I am beginning to see sense in what he said then. Looks like most of the 18man squad may not progress to the senior team. I know they are still young and developing but their development thus far have nt been as most of us anticipated.

What is happening to Musa Yahaya, Awoniyi, Ezeh, Idowu, Zaharadeen, Alfa, Obasi, Okon, and the likes? I doubt most from this list I mentioned will progress to the Super Eagles.

safarigirl:
Bravo doesn't doesn't look woeful, Bravo IS woeful.

You want to blame an at least £100 million defense for Bravo's inability to stop a ball from entering his net?

That means City made some terrible investments in the back line. So is it just Bravo that should be changed? Or does City need to ship off their over £100 million defense team for some Academy boys?

safarigirl:
a keeper's priority is to ensure balls don't get into his net. That is the main reason he's on that pitch, so all these things about footwork and distribution of balls, is he a keeper or a ballet dancer?

A goalie with these attributes who can't keep out goals is like a striker with good footwork and dribbling skills who can't score goals

TheGoodJoe:

It is the philosophy of Guardiola. If he wanted a keeper with tremendous saves, Joe Hart will still be in the club. Yes a keepers primary duty is to save the ball but he philosophy is to control the game by keeping possession for a long period of time. With that, the keeper is not under much pressure.

He has a big part to play in helping the team keep possession.

goldfish80:
So in Man city £200 million academy, there is no single 19yr old goalkeeper who is decent with his feet?

komekn:
Any of you had a look at Everton's new £10 million pound player 19 year old Ademola Lookman from league 1 Charlton.

I will reserve my comments.

safarigirl:
Guardiola must be a dull coach if he's more interested in ball control and distribution than keeping a ball out of a net.

tbaba1234:
He looks a little green in my opinion for that kind of money. Perhaps inflated by his English citizenship.

He is good on the run and uses both feet but does not pass enough, always looking to shoot.

safarigirl:
Guardiola must be a dull coach if he's more interested in ball control and distribution than keeping a ball out of a net.

safarigirl:
Guardiola must be a dull coach if he's more interested in ball control and distribution than keeping a ball out of a net.

This lady will not kill me.

komekn:
If you know the politics of money settlements and arrangement that goes on in most academies you will understand why.

City really don't have time to wait for you to develop they need success now not tomorrow.

TheGoodJoe:

And Chelsea is waiting for Gael Kakuta, Josh McEachcran and Chalobah.