Noneroone:
smh...which court case? a referendum by the indigeneous people is enough to decide the name of a city overnight.

illiteracy is truly a disease..

check the meaning of referendum and cases where it can be applied. it has nothing to do with renaming streets, cities or countries

Pls who kws the meaning of porthacurt?

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Alexxgold:
Those land grabbers won't ever learn
Thank God nothing of such can happen in Lagos or SW.. na shoot at sight straight

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Get to bed.

Ngozi123:
Do the Ijaws have a native name for Port Harcourt?

I wonder...

Alexxgold:


illiteracy is truly a disease..

check the meaning of referendum and cases where it can be applied. it has nothing to do with renaming streets, cities or countries

lol...you must be a cretinous creature. Where in my post do you "streets"? I specifically mentioned cities. St petersburg of russia like igweocha was once named leningrad in honour of lenin (like lewis harcourt for port harcourt) but was reverted to its name through a referendum. Another russian city will soon try to undergo name change through referendum.

Do you know berlin also attempted name change in 1916 through referendum? Reverting to original name of ph is easy but it'll just be for formality sake cos everyone know its true name and true owners. You prolly think referendum is one of the protocols of secession only. To think of the fact that you called me illiterate...lol fool

Noneroone:
smh...which court case? a referendum by the indigeneous people is enough to decide the name of a city overnight.

You are wrong

Noneroone:
lol...you must be a cretinous creature. Where in my post do you "streets"? I specifically mentioned cities. St petersburg of russia like igweocha was once named leningrad in honour of lenin (like lewis harcourt for port harcourt) but was reverted to its name through a referendum. Another russian city will soon try to undergo name change through referendum.

Do you know berlin also attempted name change in 1916 through referendum? Reverting to original name of ph is easy but it'll just be for formality sake cos everyone know its true name and true owners. You prolly think referendum is one of the protocols of secession only. To think of the fact that you called me illiterate...lol fool

whatever!

PH belongs to SS not igbo.. get that into your skull
Noone will allow you land grabbers take the land, definitely not yorubas or hausas.. let's see who will give you thieves referendum in the first place

Igwe ocha my ass.. bloody thieves

Alexxgold:


whatever!

PH belongs to SS not igbo.. get that into your skull
Noone will allow you land grabbers take the land, definitely not yorubas or hausas.. let's see who will give you thieves referendum in the first place

Igwe ocha my ass.. bloody thieves

whatever? lol...anyway i'll allow you throw banters around for now 'cos you sound like a kid, you can always find your way to common sense when you grow up.

Noneroone:
whatever? lol...anyway i'll allow you throw banters around for now 'cos you sound like a kid, you can always find your way to common sense when you grow up.

pele.. grown up barawo

igwe ocha my ass

explorer250:
porthacourt is igboland and igboland shall it forever be.
there are no ijaws ijoid etc in rivers state only Igbo.........explorer250 17/01/2017




OGA I be rivers indigene obigbo precisely and I know that you are an afonja working in porthacourt who can't accept the fact that pH is igboland! even the locals refer pH as igweocha and their is nothing your scratched face can do about that.

I was expecting you to present a historical disprove but you didnt.

Abeg stop spreading lies. Which local refer to PH as Igweocha? Ibos una don come again.

opuambe:
Igweocha fire. You see why we don't trust you guys ? Port harcourt is jointly own by the ikwerres and the okrikas so what made you feel they will adopt an igbo name ? Even the ikwerres reject you guys

Please just allow them to keep displaying their foolishness anyhow. History 101 from Nnewi. If they want PH they should come and take it, we are waiting. Animals!

We have never for ones meddled with the history of these Ibos, if they like they can be Jews or Ugandans we don't care, but every now and then they want to tell us our own history. History story made in Aba.
You people should please stop, because no matter how hard you try you only end up making fool of yourself and make us hate your Biafra the more. Long Live Port Harcourt, Long Live Niger Delta.

Lol, all these yoruba n igbo tribalists have started again, this is 2.0.1.7, grow up bruh


and to the guy saying the locals refer to ph as igweocha? Lol, bro abeg nor dey lie na.... i have been in ph for close to 7yrs,but this is the 1st time i'm hearing that name.... and to clarify, igbos don't have the whole ph, (maybe just a little part, i dunno), but if you believe you do, then pls kindly enlighten me, of where the ikwerres, kalabaris,etc originated/migrated from.
It's like saying Asaba is an igboland or say Urhobos own delta state, or itsekiri own Warri or saying edo belongs to the ishans

9jasite:
They called him Lewis, Viscount Harcourt, Secretary of State for the Colonies of Britain. Harcourt was said to have founded a port in the year 1912 now known and called Port Harcourt, which is the capital city of the present day Rivers State, Nigeria. But Rivers State was created, as a state in Nigeria, in the year 1967.

But how did the rapacious Harcourt found the now called Port Harcourt whereas there were people (blacks) who were living in this port before the alleged discovery, and they called it Igwe Ocha? The population of Port Harcourt is estimated at 1,320,214 as of the year 2007, of which no lineage of Harcourt was included. Igwe Ocha lies along the Bonny River and is located in the Niger Delta. We were meant to understand that the initial purpose of the Port Harcourt founded was for him to export the coal which geologist Albert Ernest Kitson had discovered in Enugu. That in earnest means that there was a particular place, a small place, where this greedy Harcourt was using as his port, and should not mean the whole of Igwe Ocha, now called Port Harcourt. Still using the name Port Harcourt reminds one of what happened in the days of colonialism and the name Harcourt, in Igwe Ocha, showcases the hand of colonialism still intact in Nigeria.


However, after the equivocal Harcourt may have died chasing the trade of coal, Nigerians were enlightened on what goes on in the present day Port Harcourt. We are meant to understand that the main city of Port Harcourt is the Port Harcourt City Local Government Area. In this council there is Azikiwe Road, Aggrey Road, Eastern Bye-Pass, the beginnings of PHC-Aba Express Road and Ikwere Road as its major roads. And the Port Harcourt Urban Area (Port Harcourt metropolis) is made up of the city itself and Obio/Akpor Local Government Area. Its major roads are the extensions of PHC-Aba Express Road and Ikwere Road, Olu Obasanjo Road, Airport Road, East-West Road, Refinery Road, Stadium Roads and amongs many others.


Abuloma, Amadi-ama, Amadi Flats,Borokiri ,Rumuokoro, Rumuodara, Woji, Presidential Housing Estate, Rumibekwe Housing Estate, Shell Residential Estate,and Elekahia Estate, are towns or in African parlance villages in the Igwe Ocha. The main industrial area is located in Trans Amadi. But those who still hold to the colonialists? view said some of Port Harcourt?s more popular and well-known residential areas are Port Harcourt Township; better known simply known as ?Town?, G.R.A phases 1-5.


The University of Port Harcourt and the Rivers State University of Science and Technology are two universities within the city. According to accounts, the city has an international airport, Port Harcourt International Airport, two seaports (F.O.T Onne, Port Harcourt Wharf), two stadia (Sharks Stadium and Liberation Stadium) and two refineries. As at 1967 when Rivers State was created, there were fifteen Local Government Areas (LGAs) in the State and when Bayelsa State was carved out in 1996, additional LGAs were created such that the present Rivers State is made up of twenty three LGAs. The State has many communities that organise community development efforts aimed at mobilising the local resources and assisting the State government in the maintenance of law and order. And this is not done by Harcourt or his descendants, if there are any.


The ethnic composition of Rivers State is very diverse, according to analysis. These include Kalabari, lkwerre, Okrika, lbani (Bonny and Opobo) Ekpeye, Ogba, Etche, Khana, Gokana, Eleme, Ndoni, Abua, Odual. Linguistic scholars have grouped these communities into six major linguistic groups, namely ljoid, lower Niger (lgboid), Ogoni, Central Delta, Delta Edoid, and Lower Cross. The ljoid group comprises four groups of dialects namely eastern ljoid (Kalabari, Bile, Okrika, lbani and Nkoro).

The Lower Niger (lgboid) comprises dialects such as Ekpeye, lkwerre, Ogba, Egbema, Ndoni, Etche, and lgbo. The Ogoni group includes a large number of dialects which can be grouped into four Khana, Gokana, Eleme and Tai. The Lower Cross group has only one member in Rivers State, with the rest being in Akwa lbom and Cross River States. The language, Obolo, in this group, is spoken in Andoni and Opobo Local Government Areas (Salawu.


Like in other world?s democracies, we are told that there are three arms of government in Rivers State. they include, The Executive Council; The Legislature; and The Judiciary. The State Executive Council is made up of the Governor, the Deputy Governor, and around 20 commissioners, special advisers and the Secretary to the State government. The commissioners are the overall heads of the ministries, while the permanent secretaries oversee the daily activities of the same ministries. The parastatals are organs of the government charged with the establishment and running of certain key economic areas of the State government. They are placed either under the supervision of the Governor or the Deputy Governor. The special advisers are assigned responsibilities in the following areas to enhance productivity and accountability: education, information, hotels and tourism etc.


We are also told that there is block called the Podium Block of Rivers State Secretariat, which is the icon of the city, an eighteen-storey building. It has the tallest building in the South/South and South/East Geopolitical zones combined. The city is sprawling in nature as building codes and zoning regulations are poorly enforced.


Igwe Ocha being a peace-loving town before the advent of Harcourt, the activities of several armed militant gangs have cast a huge shadow on life and commerce in the once peaceful town, in recent times. The gangs claim to fight for the interest of the indigenous people of Rivers State and the Niger Delta region of Nigeria, without going to fight Harcourt who exploited the land. These gangs are asking for a share of Nigeria?s oil wealth. They are however better noted and feared for violent conduct that includes random and targetted killings, arson, kidnappings of both foreign workers and indigenous people and bombings. After a spate of violence in 2007, a curfew was imposed on the town. This was however lifted by the Governor of Rivers State in the last days of 2007. On new year?s eve, 2007, Port Harcourt was once again rocked by violence which left at least sixteen people dead.


So, should we still continue to answer the name of this English man who looted us? What remembrance is there in answering Harcourt?s Port, instead of Igwe Ocha? Igwe Ocha is African, not Harcourt. We have to look into this and make amends. The same is applicable to those who bear the white man?s names. For what reason should the clergy prefer to baptize a child with the name of a white man instead of our local names? It is high time we began to look into most of these errors the white men caused us and begin to correct them; else we remain a people so confused forever.




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Harcourt did not find any port or called any city port Harcourt. Rather the city was named after him in honor of Foreign Secretary of Britain. There was a time "Secretary" in government meant "Minister" as in today's USA government where Secretary of State is the same as Minister of Foreign Affairs. Please be informed that Eleme is not Ogoni.

opuambe:
Igweocha fire. You see why we don't trust you guys ? Port harcourt is jointly own by the ikwerres and the okrikas so what made you feel they will adopt an igbo name ? Even the ikwerres reject you guys

I suggest you speak for yourself. Do you think the name, Okrika, is Ijo? There are many Umu Okrika in Igbo land and beside many places in Okrika are named such as Amadi -Ama by denial artists instead Ama- Amadi or Ogan- Ama instead of Ama-Ogan. Even Ama Ikiri has been twisted into "Amachree". Some folks are pitifully phony.

freshkik:
Lol, all these yoruba n igbo tribalists have started again, this is 2.0.1.7, grow up bruh


and to the guy saying the locals refer to ph as igweocha? Lol, bro abeg nor dey lie na.... i have been in ph for close to 7yrs,but this is the 1st time i'm hearing that name.... and to clarify, igbos don't have the whole ph, (maybe just a little part, i dunno), but if you believe you do, then pls kindly enlighten me, of where the ikwerres, kalabaris,etc originated/migrated from.
It's like saying Asaba is an igboland or say Urhobos own delta state, or itsekiri own Warri or saying edo belongs to the ishans

Why do you sound ignorant

freshkik:
Lol, all these yoruba n igbo tribalists have started again, this is 2.0.1.7, grow up bruh


and to the guy saying the locals refer to ph as igweocha? Lol, bro abeg nor dey lie na.... i have been in ph for close to 7yrs,but this is the 1st time i'm hearing that name.... and to clarify, igbos don't have the whole ph, (maybe just a little part, i dunno), but if you believe you do, then pls kindly enlighten me, of where the ikwerres, kalabaris,etc originated/migrated from.
It's like saying Asaba is an igboland or say Urhobos own delta state, or itsekiri own Warri or saying edo belongs to the ishans

So for 7yrs you didn't learn any history about Rivers State. Do you even know that Ohaneze Ndigbo vice president is from Rivers State. Some places like Rumuola is called Umuola which means the children of Olachukwu. Do you even know the Delta State you mentioned which a city like Asaba is located is part of Ohaneze Ndigbo . Asaba (Igbo : Ahaba) is from Ahabagom, meaning "I have chosen well. This is why Nigeria abolished teaching history in schools. I can remember when a certain roman called Pilate crucified Jesus but still called Jesus the king of Jews even when the chief priest of the Jews objected, Pilate said what have written, i have written. What am saying is with the little details Pilate heard and saw he knew Jesus was a king and have Israel remained independent until Jesus days, Jesus would have literally become the king of the Jews.

Ekinematics:
We have never for ones meddled with the history of these Ibos, if they like they can be Jews or Ugandans we don't care, but every now and then they want to tell us our own history. History story made in Aba.
You people should please stop, because no matter how hard you try you only end up making fool of yourself and make us hate your Biafra the more. Long Live Port Harcourt, Long Live Niger Delta.

Parts of Abia and Imo makes the modern Rivers state. that should tell you that the state is a mixture of minority and parts of majority. ikwere is igbo if they claim that they aren't let them change their names,culture and language which are all derivatives of igbo to whatever they claim they are. PH is an igbo city people are fighting hard to change its original nature.

Noneroone:
smh...which court case? a referendum by the indigeneous people is enough to decide the name of a city overnight.

Igbo boy is it your father that will conduct the referendum ? From 1960 to date how many referendum as been conducted in Nigeria ? How many referendum as been conducted in the East ? Did Ojukwu conducted a referendum before embarking on the war of succession where he lost almost 2 retarded beings like you ?

Where on Earth do some of you derive the sense of entitlement to demand privileges others do not have or have you all gone bananas ?

ph said they ain't igbos ...is ok

kettle84:
Parts of Abia and Imo makes the modern Rivers state. that should tell you that the state is a mixture of minority and parts of majority. ikwere is igbo if they claim that they aren't let them change their names,culture and language which are all derivatives of igbo to whatever they claim they are. PH is an igbo city people are fighting hard to change its original nature.

Land grabbers they have come again. OK if you really believe in the rubbish you just posted then you can come and take the parts you claim and see what happens to you. Ibos please leave us alone. Go and make your Igweocha in your south east. Leave P. Town alone.

Ekinematics:



Land grabbers they have come again. OK if you really believe in the rubbish you just posted then you can come and take the parts you claim and see what happens to you. Ibos please leave us alone. Go and make your Igweocha in your south east. Leave P. Town alone.

you are shouting 'ibos' leave us alone? who are you and who is holding you? what is your ethnicity?


Mr, go and baff.

The people from IGWEOCHA know who they are and the tribe they come from, despite the devious attempts at confusing them by lying to them about their identities and changing their community names, eg from Umuokpara to Rumuokpara, from Umuibekwe to Rumuibekwe. This is a waste of time.

The people on this thread crying for nothing, are doing just that ... crying for nothing.

Ballmer:
Igbo boy is it your father that will conduct the referendum ? From 1960 to date how many referendum as been conducted in Nigeria ? How many referendum as been conducted in the East ? Did Ojukwu conducted a referendum before embarking on the war of succession where he lost almost 2 retarded beings like you ?

Where on Earth do some of you derive the sense of entitlement to demand privileges others do not have or have you all gone bananas ?

Is this all you can say "Igbo boy". Ojukwu fought war without money and locally made weapon for 3years. Did you hear that "for 3years" even with the armies and weapon at the disposal of Nigeria they couldn't even defeat Ojukwu for 3years. Look at the business and properties we have everywhere that is becoming a threat to your existence and you call igbo slow. It will take your clan 300years to reach that milestone, that is if your clan is still existing.

giftedben:


So for 7yrs you didn't learn any history about Rivers State. Do you even know that Ohaneze Ndigbo vice president is from Rivers State. Some places like Rumuola is called Umuola which means the children of Olachukwu. Do you even know the Delta State you mentioned which a city like Asaba is located is part of Ohaneze Ndigbo . Asaba (Igbo : Ahaba) is from Ahabagom, meaning "I have chosen well. This is why Nigeria abolished teaching history in schools. I can remember when a certain roman called Pilate crucified Jesus but still called Jesus the king of Jews even when the chief priest of the Jews objected, Pilate said what have written, i have written. What am saying is with the little details Pilate heard and saw he knew Jesus was a king and have Israel remained independent until Jesus days, Jesus would have literally become the king of the Jews.

the problem with you tribalist, is that once you guys detect some1 disagreeing with you guys, you tend not to understand what the person mean, ....u claiming history, oga history is wide, n we learn err day, on the rumuola ish, i think err 1 dat hv stayed there knows, there is rumuokoro, rumuochakara, rumuokuta etc, n dey all mean,... "the children of..." thats not the history i wanna be enlightened with, i wanna know how the "WHOLE" of port harcourt is igbo, n when explaining, i'll most importantly wanna know where the other tribes occupying the land migrated from..... you stated that ndigbo own a "PART" of Asaba, which i agree with totally... "A PART" is the keyword there, n thats what i believe igbo hv in ph too, not the WHOLE ph, as u guys are claiming (this is my disagreement until proving otherwise) , if u notice from my previous mssg, in those questions i asked, some of those tribes have a large stake in that land, but its WRONG to claim the whole region is theirs, for example
the most well known and most popular king in warri is the "olu of warri" ...but that doesnt mean warri belongs to the itsekiris, or to say the urhobos have it because they have the highest population, nor can the ijaws claim they hv it, becoz they hv the biggest region (when both water n land mass is added)..... So thats what i believe, that yes igbo might actually have a portion of pH, but nor they claim ownership

cheruv:

Why do you sound ignorant

I doubt if you know what "ignorance" mean
Pick of a dictionary, check the meaning, read my post again with an open mind, n try n understand this time, that not everbody that disagrees with you is a tribalist or tryna be tribalistic...becoz i know how you guys mind work.

I don't take tribalist from any tribe serious, becoz apart from the other many negativity bout it, it brings bias & reduces the intelligence of our discussions n argument, n this affects those that come here to learn (like myself)

For me i don't believe ndigbo own port Harcout..maybe a part, but not the whole

But lets assume for example that truly, ph is an igboland... N lets assume that i was a yoruba tribalist, n i come across this thread that enlightens bout the history of ph, instead of learning , na fight n arguments....& lets assume their was nw crystal clear envidence to support the claims...d tribalist ll simply switch tactics to sometin like " una they argue say lagos (that is deep rooted in the SW) na no mans land, n u want make i believe say ph wey nor even they una SE region, na una own,ba?"

U see this ll kill any kinda valuable infos dat ppl can come n learn from....so what im tryna say is "SAY NO TO TRIBALISM" lets leave as one :/

freshkik:

I doubt if you know what "ignorance" mean
Pick of a dictionary, check the meaning, read my post again with an open mind, n try n understand this time, that not everbody that disagrees with you is a tribalist or tryna be tribalistic...becoz i know how you guys mind work.

I've read that stuff over and over again but all I could see was ignorance...please go and remove it before you get people wondering which part of the bush you ran out from

freshkik:

the problem with you tribalist, is that once you guys detect some1 disagreeing with you guys, you tend not to understand what the person mean, ....u claiming history, oga history is wide, n we learn err day, on the rumuola ish, i think err 1 dat hv stayed there knows, there is rumuokoro, rumuochakara, rumuokuta etc, n dey all mean,... "the children of..." thats not the history i wanna be enlightened with, i wanna know how the "WHOLE" of port harcourt is igbo, n when explaining, i'll most importantly wanna know where the other tribes occupying the land migrated from..... you stated that ndigbo own a "PART" of Asaba, which i agree with totally... "A PART" is the keyword there, n thats what i believe igbo hv in ph too, not the WHOLE ph, as u guys are claiming (this is my disagreement until proving otherwise) , if u notice from my previous mssg, in those questions i asked, some of those tribes have a large stake in that land, but its WRONG to claim the whole region is theirs, for example
the most well known and most popular king in warri is the "olu of warri" ...but that doesnt mean warri belongs to the itsekiris, or to say the urhobos have it because they have the highest population, nor can the ijaws claim they hv it, becoz they hv the biggest region (when both water n land mass is added)..... So thats what i believe, that yes igbo might actually have a portion of pH, but nor they claim ownership

You are still not understanding the history of Rivers State and how Port-Harcourt came about. There are no sentences in the OPs article where he stated that igbos owns river state and why is it when you stand to be corrected you call the person a tribalistic. Port-Harcourt is owned by Ikwerre an Igbo sub-group just like the Ngwa's owns Aba, Abia State before other villages were later absorbed into the city.

Ekinematics:
We have never for ones meddled with the history of these Ibos, if they like they can be Jews or Ugandans we don't care, but every now and then they want to tell us our own history. History story made in Aba.
You people should please stop, because no matter how hard you try you only end up making fool of yourself and make us hate your Biafra the more. Long Live Port Harcourt, Long Live Niger Delta.

No igbo give a Bleep about ur empty afonja skull.... U re not Niger deltan. . U re dumb yoruba Igbo hater

giftedben:

You are still not understanding the history of Rivers State and how Port-Harcourt came about. There are no sentences in the OPs article where he stated that igbos owns river state and why is it when you stand to be corrected you call the person a tribalistic. Port-Harcourt is owned by Ikwerre an Igbo sub-group just like the Ngwa's owns Aba, Abia State before other villages were later absorbed into the city.

My argument is not from the main article, but from the early comments b4 mine