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LifestyleTonite:
That was moses instructing the nation of israel as their constitution meant for them alone and no one else, be it christian or arab. Mind you, those laws have been abolished by christ and even the israelites of today dont practice them anymore.

This verse was Christ himself speaking a parable.

Perhaps you dont know that parables aren't taken literally.

ibtz:
In reply to this person read matthew 5:17 "do not think dat i have come to abolish d law or prophets but i have come to fulfill them" . Mind u dis is new testament

LifestyleTonite:
THE word fulfill means different things. We can only understand the context in which christ used the word by checking out his actions in regards to the laws. If he had come to continue with the law, as most of you try to believe, he wont have stopped the mob from stoning that woman for adultery/fornication, cos stopping them is him going against the law that permits the stoning of her kind.
He wont have also gone against the sabbath day. He wont have also preached peace and forgiveness instead of the an eye for an eye prescribed by the law. This means that he came to bring the laws to an end. Now, which of the meanings of the word [b]fulfill[/b]best describes the actions of christ in regards to the laws?


MERRIEM WEBSTER

Definition of fulfill

archaic : to make full : fill <her subtle, warm, and golden breath … fulfills him with beatitude — Alfred Tennyson>
2
a : to put into effect : execute <He fulfilled his pledge to cut taxes.>
b : to meet the requirements of (a business order) <Their order for more TVs was promptly fulfilled.>
c : to bring to an end <she came to install herself and fulfill her time at the house — Willa Cather>
d : to measure up to : satisfy <She hasn't yet fulfilled the requirements needed to graduate.>

ibtz:
In reply to this person read matthew 5:17 "do not think dat i have come to abolish d law or prophets but i have come to fulfill them" . Mind u dis is new testament

EyeHateGod:
They are not true Christians But Boko haram are True Muslims
#ChristianLogic

LifestyleTonite:
That was moses instructing the nation of israel as their constitution meant for them alone and no one else, be it christian or arab. Mind you, those laws have been abolished by christ and even the israelites of today dont practice them anymore.

This verse was Christ himself speaking a parable.

Perhaps you dont know that parables aren't taken literally.

ibtz:
The Holy Quran says in respect to d hypocritic translation of the Quran by some ppl on dis topic
.
Quran 2:190
And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah lukes bot tge transgressors.
(This is the first verse in the Quran that was revealed in connection with jihad)

From here it is clear it says fight only and only those who fight you but (there is a but clearly also) do not transgress the limits. What are d limits do not kill innocent ppl, there is a verse that supports dis
Quran 5:32
Whosoever kills an innocent being its like he has killed
All human beings and whosoever saves a life its like he has saved all human beings

LifestyleTonite:
THE word fulfill means different things. We can only understand the context in which christ used the word by checking out his actions in regards to the laws. If he had come to continue with the law, as most of you try to believe, he wont have stopped the mob from stoning that woman for adultery/fornication, cos stopping them is him going against the law that permits the stoning of her kind.
He wont have also gone against the sabbath day. He wont have also preached peace and forgiveness instead of the an eye for an eye prescribed by the law. This means that he came to bring the laws to an end. Now, which of the meanings of the word [b]fulfill[/b]best describes the actions of christ in regards to the laws?


MERRIEM WEBSTER

Definition of fulfill

archaic : to make full : fill <her subtle, warm, and golden breath … fulfills him with beatitude — Alfred Tennyson>
2
a : to put into effect : execute <He fulfilled his pledge to cut taxes.>
b : to meet the requirements of (a business order) <Their order for more TVs was promptly fulfilled.>
c : to bring to an end <she came to install herself and fulfill her time at the house — Willa Cather>
d : to measure up to : satisfy <She hasn't yet fulfilled the requirements needed to graduate.>

ibtz:
But Jesus himself was only sent to the jews alone.
Proof : read d story frm Matthew 15:22-28
It states clearly within dose verses"i am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of isreal"
Effectively refusing dat cannan woman because she was not an isrealite.

APCmyheart:
Maybe i should help him get verses you quoted..

LifestyleTonite : Why was Jesus so mean and insulting to the Canaanite woman in the first place?

here is the Verses..

Matthew 15:22-28

22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”

23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”

24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”

28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.

ibtz:
The Holy Quran says in respect to d hypocritic translation of the Quran by some ppl on dis topic
.
Quran 2:190
And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah lukes bot tge transgressors.
(This is the first verse in the Quran that was revealed in connection with jihad)

From here it is clear it says fight only and only those who fight you but (there is a but clearly also) do not transgress the limits. What are d limits do not kill innocent ppl, there is a verse that supports dis
Quran 5:32
Whosoever kills an innocenr being its like he has killed
All human beings and whosoever saves a life its like he has saved all human beings

LifestyleTonite:
What has this got to do with terrorism or this thread?

LifestyleTonite:
So, the quran tells you to fight those who fight you? Is that a good thing to do? See what Christ said below


Mathew 5:44

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


Now, which religion is more peaceful?

LifestyleTonite:
So, the quran tells you to fight those who fight you? Is that a good thing to do? See what Christ said below


Mathew 5:44

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


Now, which religion is more peaceful?

felixomor:
I see your desperation.

APCmyheart:
peace when the bible said they should kill?


OAM4J

This need to be on FP to educate ourself more..

sissoko22:
What desperation, the terrorists organization exist or not?

felixomor:
U didnt even read the thread.

Shior

sissoko22:
I read and understood every bit of the piece, the problem is the hypocrisy of the media and some brain dead Christians, they is a CIA report on terrorism committed in America from 1994-2006 and only 7% for the Muslim. Shekau acts is for every Muslim all over the world but Joseph kone (LRA) act of terror against children and women is a singular act and do not represent xtians worldwide. How about that for a hypocrisy.
They is no singular verse from the 6666 verses or 144chapter of the holy Qur'an that asked it followers to kill but only you to defend yourself without exceeding your limits.

felixomor:
If u read the thread, how come a white supremacist group is listed there as a Christian group?

Was Jesus white?

ibtz:
Damn u r so ignorant, he didnt say jesus is white, the op said d white supremacist group is a protestant organization. Its even u dat did nt rd it well

felixomor:
Sharrap....
What is the relationship between "white supremacy" and "protestant"?

U dont have a dictionary, use Google

APCmyheart:
[s]The right-wing is quick to condemn all of Islam like it’s a singular entity, and hold every Muslim accountable for the actions of a handful bad apples. As I’ve often said, no one religion — not even Buddhism — has the “right” to claim they’re non-violent. Holy War is one of those things that cuts across all religions equally. And while you can point this out to right-wingers, they won’t listen: they’re quick to invoke Boko Haram, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Al-Sheebab, or some other terrorist agency and pretend they’re the sum total of all Muslims.

Well, there are Christian terrorist agencies that are just as scary, and some of them just as bad if not worse, than ISIS. A few of these you may have heard of, but since our so-called “liberal media” gets cold feet at naming Christian Terrorism what it is, some of them slip under the radar or aren’t as associated with Christian terrorism as they should be in the popular imagination.


8. Lord’s Resistance Army

Active: 1980s-Present, about 30 years

Who are they? The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) is a Christian Fundamentalist terrorist group originally from Uganda, but now active in the Sudan, the Central African Republic, and other places. Uganda, you may remember, is a hotbed of Christian Fundamentalism, so it makes sense that a group who calls themselves “Christianist” would come from the country. The LRA surfaced in the popular conscious sometime ago when Joesph Kony suddenly became a meme on the internet; up to that point, their main claim to fame is child sex slaves and children soldiers. Indeed, the LRA is known to orchestrate kidnappings, railroading young boys into fighting while forcing young girls into sexual slavery. Those who refused to fight were hacked to pieces. The young girls are forced to be “brides” for the soldiers, and thus helping to spread HIV. They’re especially brutal towards civilians, as well, wiping out entire villages and attacking refugee camps.

The goal of the LRA is pretty straight froward: they want a Bible-based state that uses the Ten Commandments as guide posts. That’s something any right-wing politician or Christianist can sympathize with, right?


7. Ku Klux Klan

Active: 1860s-Present, 149 years

Who are they? These guys don’t need any introduction; every American knows who the Invisible Empire is. The Klan name probably comes from the Ancient Greek ‘κύκλος‘ (kuklos), which means “circle.” There’s a frightening overlap between White Supremacist ideology and Christian terrorism in the Western World, and the Klan is the tip of that iceberg. There’ve actually been three Klans; the first one was formed in 1865, in Pulaski, and drew on former members of the Confederacy Army. They were a vigilante group, and they wore the sheets as a reminder of their fellow Confederates who died (think the classic “sheet ghost” and you’re not far off). Everything about the Klan is geared towards terrorism and psychological war, from the uniform to the cross burning. And while it’s true the Klan got their start as an arm of the Democratic Party, it was back when the Republicans were Theodore Roosevelt and not Sarah Palin, so I dare you to tell a modern Klansman they voted for Barack Obama.

While the Klan started out hunting down and terrorizing freemen and women, that wasn’t their sole target. The Klan is a far right-wing Protestant organization, and being a Protestant organization, they hate Catholics. As a result, Klan has targeted both Catholics and Jews in the (not-so-distant) past. The KKK’s history is so violent, in fact, that many draw a comparison between the KKK and Al Qaeda, although I think that’s an unfair comparison, as I’ll explain below.


6. National Liberation Front of Tripura

Active: 1989 to present, about 30 years

Who are they? You’ve probably heard of the Lord’s Resistance Army and the KKK, but this is a group that I’m pretty sure you haven’t, unless you’re from India. It’s easy for us to forget, as Americans, just how big India is; it’s far more diverse than Europe is, culturally speaking, and it’s roughly the same size. It’s called the “world’s largest democracy” for a reason, but as the United States shows, no democracy is without it’s secessionists. And these folks are just some of the many secessionist organizations in India.

According to their manifesto, the NLFT wants ” to expand the kingdom of God and Christ in Tripura,” and often does so at the point of a gun. They threatened anyone celebrating the Hindu Festival of Durga Puja with death, and are backed by a Baptist Church that’s selling them arms. They’ve orchestrated at least two massacres, and used rape as a tool of intimidation. While the Nayanbasi faction has been shut down, the Biswamohan faction has promised to fight on. So here we have a Christian terrorist group spreading their faith in India “by sword,” metaphorically, and at the point of a gun more prosaically — small wonder we haven’t heard anything about them in the West, huh?


5. Antibalaka

Active: 1990s to present, about 25 years

Who are they? I’ve cited the Central African Genocide in at least two articles now; these are the militia behind that genocide. Their name means “anti-machete” in the Sango and Mandja languages, and they first formed to defend Christians and Animists who were on the receiving end of politically motivated violence carried out by Muslims. As these things often do, the tables turned, and now the Antibalaka is doing what right-wingers only wish they could do: ethnically cleanse their country of all Muslims. This includes children, who they’ve targeted and murdered in the past. Now, the Antibalaka now stand accused of crimes far worse than anything that Séléka, the Muslim rebel group, are guilty of.


4. Catholic Reaction Force/Protestant Action Force

Active: 1983 till 1994; at least 2002 for other groups using the CRF name; 1970s till 1990s for PAF

Who are they? Really, anytime some claims that Christians aren’t violent, all you have to do is direct them to Ireland. I could do a whole entry on what happened in North Ireland, beginning in the 1970s. Americans like to pretend that Eire is Guinness, the Blarney Stone, and leprechauns, but during the 1970s, religious violence a la the Thirty Years’ War was painting the Emerald Isle ruby red. The Irish call this time period The Troubles, and that’s an understatement if there ever was one.

The Provisional IRA is perhaps the best known terrorist agency from the period and would definitely earn their spot on this list, if I weren’t aiming for more obscure groups, but the Catholic Reaction Force and Protestant Action Force were also active and, in the case of the latter, also responsible for a large number of murders. For those who are unfamiliar with the Troubles, it occurred in North Ireland and, as so many European conflicts do, pitted Protestants against Catholics in unmitigated bloodshed. The CRF was behind the Darkley killings, in addition to several mailed bombings in the early 2000s. The PAF, which was far more effective in their killings, has a rap sheet a mile long. You can find it on the Wikipedia page, here.

3. The Orange Volunteers

Active: Early 1970s to Present, about 40 years

Who are they: We’re staying in Ireland for this next group. Fans of science fiction probably remember the Orange Catholic Bible from Frank Herbert’s Dune, but may never have understood why that name was so subversive, or why it was similar to Herbert’s other Coca-Pepsi religious hybrids like Zensunni. Orange is the color of Protestantism in Ireland, and green is the color of Catholicism; when you wear green on St. Patty’s Day, you’re proclaiming your Catholic heritage. The Orange Volunteers, then, are a Protestant terrorist organization.

The OV are Protestant Fundamentalist, and responsible for a number of violent attacks in North Ireland. While the police have been cracking down on the group, the group is still considered to be active and is still terrorizing Catholic citizens and hitting “soft targets.”

2. The Aryan Nations

Active: Unknown, to the Present

Who are they? “The Aryan Nations” is an umbrella agency that nets a large number of White and Christian Supremacist agencies ranging from certain breeds of Neo-Nazi to the KKK itself. It’s heyday was in the 1980s and the 1990s, when various White Nationalist groups would convene at the group’s Idaho compound for their annual congress.

The Aryan Nations got their start in the Christian Identity movement, but has since fractured into no fewer than three factions, with one faction even looking to buddy-buddy with Al-Qaeda in 2005. The Phineas Priesthood is another branch, and they’ve made headlines here on AATTP before. The last faction is the Aryan Nation Revival, which holds to their Christian Identity heritage like small-town Conservatives cling to their guns and Bibles.


1. The Christian Identity Movement

Active: 1920/1930s to Present, about 95 years

Who are they? When you’re dealing with White Nationalism and White Supremacy in the United States, it’s turtles all the way down, but you can almost certainly find God at the top of the heap. That’s what the Christian Identity Movement is; it’s not necessarily an organization so much as it is a loose affiliation of organizations like the Aryan Nations.

The Christian Identity Movement is a very weird movement; they actually have hostile relations with Evangelicals and other charismatic Protestants — not because they’re racist bigots, no; it’s because the CIM is Post-Millennial, where the vast majority of Evangelicals are Pre-Millennial. This distinction is lost on anyone who hasn’t studied the Scofield-Derby Heresies, but the basic idea is that the Tribulation has already occurred and the goal is to build up the world to the second coming. Their theology is just as skewed, though; for instance, members of the CIM believe that non-Caucasians don’t have souls, and therefore, can’t be saved.

The CIM is made up of various Christian terrorist organizations, like Americans Promise Ministries, who are responsible for terrorist attacks and bank robberies; the aforementioned Aryan Nations; the Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord; the Oklahoma Constitution Militia; and the South African Groups that were behind the 2002 Soweto bombings.

This group is why I consider the comparison between the KKK and Al-Qaeda to be unfair. The CIM is a worldwide movement, with adherents across the Commonwealth and former-Commonwealth Countries, as well as the United States, and is responsible for ideologically motivated terrorism. This, I think, makes the Christian Identity Movement a much better comparison to Al-Qaeda than the KKK.
So this is it?

Nope. There are hundreds more. I mentioned a few of them in the article — the Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, the Oklahoma Constitution Militia, and the Provisional IRA are just a few who didn’t get entries but deserve noting anyway. By now it should be apparent to anyone watching that Christian Terrorism is a thing, it exists, and it’s just as bad and widespread as Islamic Terrorism. The only difference between Christian Terrorism and Islamic terrorism is that Christian Terrorism never makes the evening news.[/s]