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Kog45:
Pep do not wants Aguero?some officials protecting Aguero and keeps him on d team?Pls stop insulting Aguero.Did u know Aguero is like old Drogba of Chelsea to Man City for God sake,pls check Aguero record at Man city and stop assuming what is not

On Guardiola's philosophy,if it is on Pep philosophy then Nacho should be in d team coz u said Nacho suit Guardiola's philosophy more than Aguero and Gabriel makes d team coz he fit into Guardiola's philosophy and Nacho who also suit d philosophy is not making d team even with d absence of Aguero against Palace who doesn't suit Pep philosophy(CONTRADICTING)

On Guardiola having a sweet relationship with Alaba,i don't want to sound racist here but i want to tell u that Pep doesn't see Alaba as African,he see him as European.

Kog45:
Pls stop this Nacho working for Guardiola a year or two years then look for playing time,to me it seems u are under rating d abundance of talents in Super Eagles.

Did u realized why everybody were so passionate about Nacho development,not coz of man city but for our national team.He is a player w believe is going for greatness and he has showed it in his few matches for Eagles.nobody w wait for Nacho working with Guardiola for two years without enough playing time,guys with great talents are knocking on d door of super eagles and want to show what they can offer.

I want u to remember when i said it was absurd for Iwobi having playing time in Arsenal despite d presence of arrays of stars like Ozil,Walcott,Ramsey,Xhaka,Chamberlain,Suarez,Giroud,Cazorla,Welbeck etc,then our golden boy cannot make a match day squad with d likes of Sane,Sterling,AgueroNolito,Gundogan,Navas,Gabriel Jesus who else for God sake,pls compare and contrast Iwobi development with Nacho.

It was on this thread i said d next 5 games w determined d future of Nacho with Man city,let be hopeful that things turn around for our boy coz d current super eagles is growing everyday with different pool of players.Did u realized that Etebo pushed Nacho to striking role against Algeria and we are having players like Mikel Agu,Henry Oyekwuru showing glimpses of what they can do every week and Nacho not even making d bench.

I don't want us to go into drilling or learning of a thing again coz all players irrespective of coaches were always on d drill and learning,so nothing special,though being under Guardiola might be a plus for Nacho but not a yardstick for him to become a better player.

I can tell u a lot of guys on this thread knew what is going to happen to Nacho with d arrival of Gabriel coz before d arrival of Jesus,Nacho was already having it tough with Guardiola system,even those who played d games to d highest level like Michael Owen have come out to say it that we have better Nacho under Pellegrin.

Kog45:
Pls stop this Nacho working for Guardiola a year or two years then look for playing time,to me it seems u are under rating d abundance of talents in Super Eagles.

Did u realized why everybody were so passionate about Nacho development,not coz of man city but for our national team.He is a player w believe is going for greatness and he has showed it in his few matches for Eagles.nobody w wait for Nacho working with Guardiola for two years without enough playing time,guys with great talents are knocking on d door of super eagles and want to show what they can offer.

I want u to remember when i said it was absurd for Iwobi having playing time in Arsenal despite d presence of arrays of stars like Ozil,Walcott,Ramsey,Xhaka,Chamberlain,Suarez,Giroud,Cazorla,Welbeck etc,then our golden boy cannot make a match day squad with d likes of Sane,Sterling,AgueroNolito,Gundogan,Navas,Gabriel Jesus who else for God sake,pls compare and contrast Iwobi development with Nacho.

It was on this thread i said d next 5 games w determined d future of Nacho with Man city,let be hopeful that things turn around for our boy coz d current super eagles is growing everyday with different pool of players.Did u realized that Etebo pushed Nacho to striking role against Algeria and we are having players like Mikel Agu,Henry Oyekwuru showing glimpses of what they can do every week and Nacho not even making d bench.

I don't want us to go into drilling or learning of a thing again coz all players irrespective of coaches were always on d drill and learning,so nothing special,though being under Guardiola might be a plus for Nacho but not a yardstick for him to become a better player.

I can tell u a lot of guys on this thread knew what is going to happen to Nacho with d arrival of Gabriel coz before d arrival of Jesus,Nacho was already having it tough with Guardiola system,even those who played d games to d highest level like Michael Owen have come out to say it that we have better Nacho under Pellegrin.

TheGoodJoe:

I have to repeat myself because it seems you are just in an antagonistic view. Aguero and Nasri came back overweight. From the pics, Aguero looked worse. Nasri got punished and frozen out of the team. To the point Nasri did not play a preseason game. While Aguero kept his place.

With the ruthless way Guardiola handled, Nasri, Yaya Toure and Joe Hart, it is wrong to believe Guardiola would not do the same to Aguero. These guys are big game players and City legends. Aguero got a pass and just like how the season has gone, he keeps getting a pass. Despite not working hard for the team as he used to. Despite not meeting the demands Guardiola wants from his forwards.

The only reason I see is because the officials of City have big interests in Aguero.

Kog45:
Pls stop this Nacho working for Guardiola a year or two years then look for playing time,to me it seems u are under rating d abundance of talents in Super Eagles.

Did u realized why everybody were so passionate about Nacho development,not coz of man city but for our national team.He is a player w believe is going for greatness and he has showed it in his few matches for Eagles.nobody w wait for Nacho working with Guardiola for two years without enough playing time,guys with great talents are knocking on d door of super eagles and want to show what they can offer.

I want u to remember when i said it was absurd for Iwobi having playing time in Arsenal despite d presence of arrays of stars like Ozil,Walcott,Ramsey,Xhaka,Chamberlain,Suarez,Giroud,Cazorla,Welbeck etc,then our golden boy cannot make a match day squad with d likes of Sane,Sterling,AgueroNolito,Gundogan,Navas,Gabriel Jesus who else for God sake,pls compare and contrast Iwobi development with Nacho.

It was on this thread i said d next 5 games w determined d future of Nacho with Man city,let be hopeful that things turn around for our boy coz d current super eagles is growing everyday with different pool of players.Did u realized that Etebo pushed Nacho to striking role against Algeria and we are having players like Mikel Agu,Henry Oyekwuru showing glimpses of what they can do every week and Nacho not even making d bench.

I don't want us to go into drilling or learning of a thing again coz all players irrespective of coaches were always on d drill and learning,so nothing special,though being under Guardiola might be a plus for Nacho but not a yardstick for him to become a better player.

I can tell u a lot of guys on this thread knew what is going to happen to Nacho with d arrival of Gabriel coz before d arrival of Jesus,Nacho was already having it tough with Guardiola system,even those who played d games to d highest level like Michael Owen have come out to say it that we have better Nacho under Pellegrin.

Kog45:
Antago what,no am not an antagonist,am just here to express my view to d best of my knowledge and to learn from u guys.Shikena

safarigirl:
We've made 500 pages.

I would like to send a shout out to oga thegoodjoe for this milestone, his relentless arguments got us here. Without his detailed arguments spanning at least 3 quotes per comment, we would still be somewhere around 312 pages

LOLS.

Three quotes per comment. Subtle hit.

safarigirl:
We've made 500 pages.

I would like to send a shout out to oga thegoodjoe for this milestone, his relentless arguments got us here. Without his detailed arguments spanning at least 3 quotes per comment, we would still be somewhere around 312 pages

TheGoodJoe:

By the way, our City fans are behaving in a way I do not understand. The rave of Gabriel Jesus performance is making me scratch my head. They make it look as if he was golden.

To the best of my knowledge, Iheanacho's first full start was against Crystal Palace in the EFL Cup. He scored that day, got two assists and won the man of the match.

I think after that standard Nacho set, there should not be much excitement about Gabriel's performance yesterday.

I will watch him closely in the next game but I am yet to see why the buzz is so high.

Lazyerudite:
To be honest, breaking into those teams will be hard, also it will take time. These managers will not want to change the dynamics of their teams just like that. All the teams mentioned have their strikers performing and to just come and bench them will be hard. My breaking point was Nacho not playing the FA cup. That was just enough for me. He should move out and move on

TheSuperNerd:
I'm not giving up and have never given up on Iheanacho.....

And about greatness, let it be known that we also make our destinies..... Sometimes, we must take decisions that will ensure the fulfilment of our destinies

Nacho will be a super star player soon... That I have no doubts about... Be it at Man City or elsewhere... I have always said this...

My annoyance is that he will leave man city not because he is not good enough but because the coach don't believe in African talents playing for African nations.... He leaves because of a biased preference for certain players with "pele or maradona" genes.... This is what irks me...

TheGoodJoe:

Apart from Ozil and Sanchez, the rest players of Arsenal you listed there, including Iwobi will bench at City. Is it Ramsey or Xhaka that will bench Fernandinho and De Bruyne. Is it Giroud and Walcott that will bench Aguero and Silva.


As for Owen, he is analysing off point. Pellegrini did not give Iheanacho enough chances until it was late. Unlike Pellegrini, Guardiola plays with one striker upfront. Pellegrini played two, so when things got hard, he could bring in Nacho. I said it before, in that particular game, Liverpool played the same time. Owen did not watch the game and was talking from watching the highlights of the goals Iheanacho missed.

safarigirl:
they're just being the usual English fans, wanking over anything related to Pele.

I don't take them seriously in all honesty, they are as unstable as a girl on her period

safarigirl:
We've made 500 pages.

I would like to send a shout out to oga thegoodjoe for this milestone, his relentless arguments got us here. Without his detailed arguments spanning at least 3 quotes per comment, we would still be somewhere around 312 pages

goldfish80:
Sheybi you said Man city were ageing. How come they are all better than the younger arsenal players.
The way you contradict yourself is entertaining to watch, pure comedy gold

goldfish80:
Sheybi you said Man city were ageing. How come they are all better than the younger arsenal players.
The way you contradict yourself is entertaining to watch, pure comedy gold

TheGoodJoe:

By the way, our City fans are behaving in a way I do not understand. The rave of Gabriel Jesus performance is making me scratch my head. They make it look as if he was golden.

To the best of my knowledge, Iheanacho's first full start was against Crystal Palace in the EFL Cup. He scored that day, got two assists and won the man of the match.

I think after that standard Nacho set, there should not be much excitement about Gabriel's performance yesterday.

I will watch him closely in the next game but I am yet to see why the buzz is so high.

TheGoodJoe:

When I listed City main problems, I listed defenders. They are aging. After my comment are you not seeing changes? With Sane, Gabriel Jesus and Sterling, that is a younger force. Our major problem lies behind with Zabaleta, Sagna, Kompany, Kolarov, Clichy. Coupled with Yaya Toure and Fernandinho. All over thirty. Guardiola is doing a good job getting them to perform. That does not mean they are not aging.

The debate was Liverpool who I believe has a better side.

Xzbit91:
Just two games and Nigerians are already ringing the alarm bells. It's a no brainer that a €32m Brazilian import is going to take priority over an academy product (people don't usually value what they got cheaply or for free). You simply cannot shell out that amount for a bench player except ofcourse you're Madrid.

I remember how a few years ago soldado was bought by Tottenham and automatically become the first choice striker even though they had adebayor and a budding Harry Kane yet I didn't hear England fans asking Kane to request a loan deal and eventually Kane's quality shone through.

I must admit Gabriel Jesus quality is not in doubt, the few games I watched him play at the Olympics and the Brazilian national team he was a joy to behold despite his young age. He's an embodiment of your typical Brazilian no.9, fast, strong, tricky, sleek and aggressive and I can understand the fanfare he's coming with from back home. Brazil have not had his type in a while since the retirement of O' Phenomeno, adriano only flattered to deceive, Fabiano's reign at the top was too short and well Fred and Leandro were not your classic Brazilian striker hence their over-reliance on neymar who is a winger.

Is Gabriel better than iheanacho? I can't say and it's too early to tell, they're both class acts and they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Gabriel is more of an all round striker although iheanacho is more clinical, iheanacho's passing accuracy and decision making (not front of goal decisions) leaves a lot to be desired.

My take on the matter is Iheanacho should stay and fight for his shirt, you cannot be the best by running away from competition. He should develop other aspects of his game which will come in handy even if he leaves or stays. If he leaves he'd still have to fight for a shirt where he's going, if he stakes a high enough claim to a starting berth then city might be more willing to letting go of an injury prone aguero knocking on his thirties.

My only anger with pep is that he's shown a complete lack of faith in the young Nigerian that is too much to be ignored by bringing him on at 85th min when match is already won or lost. He also refused to play him consistently enough when aguero was out injured and on suspension preferring to use wingers as false nine and now he's not making matchday squad even for domestic cup matches.

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goldfish80:
LOL.. So typical. Just because Man city won last night. Had it been they drew or lost you will claim they lost because of their age. Like against Everton.

The PR you do for man city is worth millions of dollars

TheSuperNerd:
Bia Safarigirl.... we have to also commend the one who always followed TheGoodJoe bumper to bumper with relentless replies.... He's theGoodJoe's Fiercest opponent in the Discourse and debate arena..... He's Sir Goldfish80 himself...

This man knows how to drag it long with TheGoodJoe.....

Their arguments can take days or even weeks..... Chaaiiiii... Reminds one of the legendary almost endless battle between Archilles of Greece and Hector of Troy....

For 500 pages milestone.... Oya take ya own too....

https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f0/f091e8357bab940a7f4013d2cdcdf51dcf081a8b57148f2e17c072ad30154d14.jpg

Xzbit91:
Just two games and Nigerians are already ringing the alarm bells. It's a no brainer that a €32m Brazilian import is going to take priority over an academy product (people don't usually value what they got cheaply or for free). You simply cannot shell out that amount for a bench player except ofcourse you're Madrid.

I remember how a few years ago soldado was bought by Tottenham and automatically become the first choice striker even though they had adebayor and a budding Harry Kane yet I didn't hear England fans asking Kane to request a loan deal and eventually Kane's quality shone through.

I must admit Gabriel Jesus quality is not in doubt, the few games I watched him play at the Olympics and the Brazilian national team he was a joy to behold despite his young age. He's an embodiment of your typical Brazilian no.9, fast, strong, tricky, sleek and aggressive and I can understand the fanfare he's coming with from back home. Brazil have not had his type in a while since the retirement of O' Phenomeno, adriano only flattered to deceive, Fabiano's reign at the top was too short and well Fred and Leandro were not your classic Brazilian striker hence their over-reliance on neymar who is a winger.

Is Gabriel better than iheanacho? I can't say and it's too early to tell, they're both class acts and they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Gabriel is more of an all round striker although iheanacho is more clinical, iheanacho's passing accuracy and decision making (not front of goal decisions) leaves a lot to be desired.

My take on the matter is Iheanacho should stay and fight for his shirt, you cannot be the best by running away from competition. He should develop other aspects of his game which will come in handy even if he leaves or stays. If he leaves he'd still have to fight for a shirt where he's going, if he stakes a high enough claim to a starting berth then city might be more willing to letting go of an injury prone aguero knocking on his thirties.

My only anger with pep is that he's shown a complete lack of faith in the young Nigerian that is too much to be ignored by bringing him on at 85th min when match is already won or lost. He also refused to play him consistently enough when aguero was out injured and on suspension preferring to use wingers as false nine and now he's not making matchday squad even for domestic cup matches.

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Xzbit91:
Just two games and Nigerians are already ringing the alarm bells. It's a no brainer that a €32m Brazilian import is going to take priority over an academy product (people don't usually value what they got cheaply or for free). You simply cannot shell out that amount for a bench player except ofcourse you're Madrid.

I remember how a few years ago soldado was bought by Tottenham and automatically become the first choice striker even though they had adebayor and a budding Harry Kane yet I didn't hear England fans asking Kane to request a loan deal and eventually Kane's quality shone through.

I must admit Gabriel Jesus quality is not in doubt, the few games I watched him play at the Olympics and the Brazilian national team he was a joy to behold despite his young age. He's an embodiment of your typical Brazilian no.9, fast, strong, tricky, sleek and aggressive and I can understand the fanfare he's coming with from back home. Brazil have not had his type in a while since the retirement of O' Phenomeno, adriano only flattered to deceive, Fabiano's reign at the top was too short and well Fred and Leandro were not your classic Brazilian striker hence their over-reliance on neymar who is a winger.

Is Gabriel better than iheanacho? I can't say and it's too early to tell, they're both class acts and they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Gabriel is more of an all round striker although iheanacho is more clinical, iheanacho's passing accuracy and decision making (not front of goal decisions) leaves a lot to be desired.

My take on the matter is Iheanacho should stay and fight for his shirt, you cannot be the best by running away from competition. He should develop other aspects of his game which will come in handy even if he leaves or stays. If he leaves he'd still have to fight for a shirt where he's going, if he stakes a high enough claim to a starting berth then city might be more willing to letting go of an injury prone aguero knocking on his thirties.

My only anger with pep is that he's shown a complete lack of faith in the young Nigerian that is too much to be ignored by bringing him on at 85th min when match is already won or lost. He also refused to play him consistently enough when aguero was out injured and on suspension preferring to use wingers as false nine and now he's not making matchday squad even for domestic cup matches.

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TheGoodJoe:
First of all, Gabriel Jesus can not polish the boots or Adriano. I watched Adriano at 19 and he was unbelievably brilliant. I remember him in an age grade tournament when he pulled off a skill I have not seen again.

Gabriel Jesus is good. I have done some research on him and he is not a better attacker than Nacho. There are chances he misses that Nacho will most likely bury.

However, the main difference from my study is the speed at which Gabriel Jesus tracks back. Just like how Guardiola likes his defenders and goalkeepers being offensive, I see Guardiola likes his forward defensive and he clearly performs better than Nacho in this aspect.

Talent wise, Gabriel Jesus name should not come in the same sentence as Ronaldo and Adriano. These men were unbelievably Super. Will Gabriel Jesus hit their heights later? Time will tell but for now, it is an insult to football greatness putting his name among these icons.

TheGoodJoe:


I would have thought Iheanacho should stay but my problem is the love Gabriel Jesus gets. The way the City executives make it look as if the young man is the best thing since Neymar. It is a bit too much for my liking. I do not see Iheanacho getting a fair run when Aguero is out of the picture. With the future forward line Guardiola proposed yesterday in his post match comment, I think the summer is a good time for Nacho to give football a real shot in a club that will give him time to show his strength. He just needs to work his socks off in the coming months in preparation for the NACHO STORM.

TheSuperNerd:
Thank you for your honesty on Gabby Jesus. He is a fantastic young talent but mentioned in the same breadth as ronaldo or even luiz fabiano or adriano is an insult big time.

It's just because he's the closest brazillians today have seen to the talents of those super stars. And what's funny is this: As close as Gabby is, he's not even up to a quarter fraction of a quarter of Ronaldo's talents... Haba!!!!

The buzz around this guy is three-much biko!!!

At least Nacho backed up his hype with goals and some fine performances from the bench..... Gabby just tracks back with pace and makes runs and scores an offside goal and there's a huge buzz already about him.... English fans can be so silly.... Looollll

For the future, yes he can reach their heights (I.e. Ronaldo, Adriano, etc) but so can Nacho reach messi or lewandowski heights.... but right now, Gabby Jesus is not better than Nacho and not even more clinical.... He's playing 9.... Let's see how many goals he scores....

Sometimes, I feel Pep makes a mockery of Nacho's talents whenever Nacho scores and all pep can say is, "He's a goalscorer... He always seem to know how to score.." **NOTHING MORE SAID**

When asked about Nacho's playing time one time... He said, "Then change the coach...."


This is the competition Nacho is up against... Jesus is not his competition... It is Pep Guardiola himself.

TheSuperNerd:
The Nacho Storm.... I like the sound of that!

Hopefully in the near future that Nacho Storm will include scoring loads of goals against Man City if he leaves for good.... City will regret letting him go.

TheSuperNerd:
The Nacho Storm.... I like the sound of that!

Hopefully in the near future that Nacho Storm will include scoring loads of goals against Man City if he leaves for good.... City will regret letting him go.

daveP:
God go bomb you with blessing for this post.


Lemme refrain from using the R word that would fit Pep so well.


Just like Mou who likes ready made peeps.

TheGoodJoe:

If Gabriel Jesus had scored those two goals Nacho scored that won the CNN goal of the week for the Super Eagles, I doubt we would have been able to hear again. That is what is annoying me about the City fan. Gabriel Jesus is good but the over praising is too much. Let them give him time to blend and do well.