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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:44pm On Jan 30, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
“But you know, very well, that only the victory in 1984 was clean. The second, in 1998, we were cheated. Roger tricked the referee (Idrissa Saar of Mauritania) into giving him a fake penalty. And the clean goal of Henry Nwosu was disallowed,” I told him.

I think the author meant 1988.


cc: Icon4s
Yes 1984,we were beaten hands down with Muda Lawal scoring d first goal and Cameroon replied with 3 goals,i remember Roger Milla used his experience to torment young Keshi who was captain then at 22 and Patrick Okala who stood in for injured Peter Rufai in d final

Oh 1988,mehn daylight robbery,Roger Milla dived to deceive d referee after a slight contact with Sunday Eboigbe and penalty was given which Milla converted,also Henry Nwosu scored a wonderful goal with his head but referee ruled offside.At d end Cameroon 1 Nigeria 0 at Maroc 88.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lexyman(m): 8:51pm On Jan 30, 2017
goldfish80:
I blew the whistle about this Cameroun team after watching their first game. I got a lot of criticism from alot of people here.
It took the game against Senegal for people to understand what I said about this team some 2weeks ago.

I would once again say, the target would be to get 4 points from these people. It would be a rough, rugged and raw back to back games against this lot.
We need players in top shape physically to prosecute these games.

Hugo Broos is unknown in Africa, but I can tell you guys he's one of Belgium's finest managers. The man has a respectable reputation in Europe, his tactical prowess is very evident on this team.
How fecafoot have managed to engage some of the best European coaches over the years is quite amazing.... From Wilfred Schaffer to Volker Finke, Paul Le Guen and now Hugo Broos.. Hmm
Is it the same cameroun ?they outmuscled most of their opponents , they ve meet their match , they will try harder . but i give it to their 21 year old keeper , he single handedly took them to the semi,s .if you watch that game you will remember the chelsea of the days of Mourinho (negative football) i still don't believe they are better , what has improved so far is their confidence , tactics is still zero.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
TheSuperNerd:
I'm not comparing national teams naa... undecided

Gabby Jesus is U-21.... You say after Neymar na him... Then I asked, who else dem get at that age again naa? That's where the U-21 comes in... And truth is we pass them there... Let our. Key U-21s making waves mature and you'll see how far... Iwobi, Simon, Nacho, Ndidi... Just wait and see... wink


Brazil however, is and forever remains a powerhouse in soccer. No arguments. That is as a team. Now we speak of individuals. smiley

Gabby Jesus and Nathan Oduwa na the same kinda players with almost same skillsets... I lie? grin

Only diff is one is black and African, the other has relations to Pele and Zico. Jesus got opportunities coz he's good and also brazillian. Oduwa has not gotten such opportunities coz he's black even though he's also good.



Meanwhile I wan ask one question sef..... Which Brazillian midfielder today better pass Mikel sef? Fernandinho? Abi na Ramires? Or Renato augusto? Who? Coz you even said don't compare national teams like we have rag-tag players abi? I'm not comparing national teams... I'm just comparing midfielders now... :p

Take ya time ooo...
Ok na, we pass dem for U21 but dem pass us for National team. grin Abi, no bi so!? grin

That one no even follow because we no dey follow Brazilian league and players else we for no say Brazilian talent be like fish wey no dey dry for inside water. Meaning they must have but we are not aware or we don't care. EOD grin


Gabriel Jesus don win laurels for em self and club with em skills but Nathan still dey manage for Academy. That is the big difference between them. grin

Make em break enter Tot first team na. Oduwa na British and Naija na. grin Although, wetin you talk about Brazilian factor na true but wetin man pikin go about dat one na?

Let us say, Mikel is better than all their midfielders combine. What about the other positions? grin

Na dere you go fear fear. grin

We-re wayooo. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:30pm On Jan 30, 2017
lexyman:
Is it the same cameroun ?they outmuscled most of their opponents , they ve meet their match , they will try harder . but i give it to their 21 year old keeper , he single handedly took them to the semi,s .if you watch that game you will remember the chelsea of the days of Mourinho (negative football) i still don't believe they are better , what has improved so far is their confidence , tactics is still zero.
Cameroun and Egypt are the most tactically disciplined sides in this championship.
These guys stay true to their strategy,hardly out of shape and very hard to beat.
These attributes are the evidence of a well coached team.

In the game against Senegal, if you watched closely you would have noticed they had the clearer chances and merely reduced Senegal to half chances. Football is not all about fancy footwork and passing. You have to respect other people's way of playing the game.

If watched their game throughout this tournament, you will appreciate how tactically aware the Cameroonians are.

Nigerians should be a little bit more circumspect and Liberal when analysing football. I noticed a lot of people don't just fancy this Cameroonians because we have them to deal with in the WCQ.
Thankfully Gernot Rohr have a different view from Nigerians especially those on the cyberspace.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:34pm On Jan 30, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

His club is not single handedly too. Without Neymar, no Olympics. Without Gabriel Jesus, Brazil stood a good chance to win the Olympics with Neymar joining the squad. They should spare us the hype and give Gabriel Jesus the time to grow.
Hehehehe! I hear you. grin Infact, he doesn't deserve the individual awards. grin

Moreover, his contribution to the Olympics can never be overlooked. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 10:02pm On Jan 30, 2017
goldfish80:
Cameroun and Egypt are the most tactically disciplined sides in this championship.
These guys stay true to their strategy,hardly out of shape and very hard to beat.
These attributes are the evidence of a well coached team.

In the game against Senegal, if you watched closely you would have noticed they had the clearer chances and merely reduced Senegal to half chances. Football is not all about fancy footwork and passing. You have to respect other people's way of playing the game.

If watched their game throughout this tournament, you will appreciate how tactically aware the Cameroonians are.

Nigerians should be a little bit more circumspect and Liberal when analysing football. I noticed a lot of people don't just fancy this Cameroonians because we have them to deal with in the WCQ.
Thankfully Gernot Rohr have a different view from Nigerians especially those on the cyberspace.
Rightly said, however if you noticed to they give out q lot of fouls and that could be their own undoing against Ghana, reason why Cameroon will not go far in the present world cup. An average tactical team can defeat. Oh least I forget Ghana seems to know how to win penalties. So this might be an issue. You don't need to play muscle football with them. Just get one or two defenders to get a yellow card and you can take up the rest from there. The cameroonians don't really score unlike the Egyptians. So I will not compare both. For Nigeria to beat them, Moses must make them commit a lot of fouls and that is it. They will bulge eventually
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 10:05pm On Jan 30, 2017
goldfish80:
Cameroun and Egypt are the most tactically disciplined sides in this championship.
These guys stay true to their strategy,hardly out of shape and very hard to beat.
These attributes are the evidence of a well coached team.

In the game against Senegal, if you watched closely you would have noticed they had the clearer chances and merely reduced Senegal to half chances. Football is not all about fancy footwork and passing. You have to respect other people's way of playing the game.

If watched their game throughout this tournament, you will appreciate how tactically aware the Cameroonians are.

Nigerians should be a little bit more circumspect and Liberal when analysing football. I noticed a lot of people don't just fancy this Cameroonians because we have them to deal with in the WCQ.
Thankfully Gernot Rohr have a different view from Nigerians especially those on the cyberspace.
The Senegalese also missed opportunities to end the game, don't know if mousa sow forgot his duties as diouf was not it. Only mane was running around and that was not enough.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:09pm On Jan 30, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
I'm not comparing national teams naa... undecided

Gabby Jesus is U-21.... You say after Neymar na him... Then I asked, who else dem get at that age again naa? That's where the U-21 comes in... And truth is we pass them there... Let our. Key U-21s making waves mature and you'll see how far... Iwobi, Simon, Nacho, Ndidi... Just wait and see... wink


Brazil however, is and forever remains a powerhouse in soccer. No arguments. That is as a team. Now we speak of individuals. smiley

Gabby Jesus and Nathan Oduwa na the same kinda players with almost same skillsets... I lie? grin

Only diff is one is black and African, the other has relations to Pele and Zico. Jesus got opportunities coz he's good and also brazillian. Oduwa has not gotten such opportunities coz he's black even though he's also good.



Meanwhile I wan ask one question sef..... Which Brazillian midfielder today better pass Mikel sef? Fernandinho? Abi na Ramires? Or Renato augusto? Who? Coz you even said don't compare national teams like we have rag-tag players abi? I'm not comparing national teams... I'm just comparing midfielders now... :p

Take ya time ooo...
There is favoritism, racism and discrimination in football no doubt. However, eventually the cream rises to the top.

When we move down south in England the propensity for racism reduces dramatically. I spent a week at Tottenhams academy in 2013 when Ehiogu, Ferdinando and Chris Ramsey were youth coaches. I had never seen so many black members of staff across the board in a football club as I found at Tottenham.

Nathan was not considered the bright star at that time it was Josh Onuma. Nathan has been on loan and has played for all the youth teams but he failed to breakthrough. Football is not just fancy tricks and rainbow flicks but essentially end product will get you far not show boating.

Nathan is not on the level of Gabriel by a huge margin, statistically he has done nothing comparatively they can't share the same page in any shape or form.

I am not sentimentality biased where Nigeria is concerned to the point that I loose all objectivity.

On Sunday I watched Fulham against Hull in which Sone Aluko (tried and tested) gave a star performance after beating a full strength Hull 4-1. In that game a 16 year old black boy played left back and was outstanding scoring one goal. I spoke to the head of Fulhams recruitment at Blackburn last year when they beat Blackburn and he told they were looking for at least £15 million but expect upwards of £20 million.

The idea that racial discrimination is holding Nathan back is simply baseless.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by whizola: 10:09pm On Jan 30, 2017
I watched the gent vs club bugged match. It think Samuel Kalu should get a callup ahead of ahmed musa. He was brilliantI watched the gent vs club bugged match. It think Samuel Kalu should get a callup ahead of ahmed musa. He was brilliantI watched the gent vs club bugged match. It think Samuel Kalu should get a callup ahead of ahmed musa. He was brilliant
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:24pm On Jan 30, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Yep... Read this over and over on many sites.


Now can someone please explain how NOLITO IS A YOUNG STRIKER??

And how Raheem Sterling is a striker?? yet Pep says "we have three in the middle (Kun, Gabby and Nacho)"

Isn't Raheem an attacker/attacking winger? How is he now a no.9?? Pep is one confused son of a gun....

Cc: TheGoodJoe.... Better put on those boxing gloves coz I challenge you today.... grin
I have known Raheem since he was 14 and he has played as either striker or winger. Indeed one season he led the line at Liverpool.

Essentially the modern game requires a fusion, a winger is a striker that is either coming from the left or the right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:27pm On Jan 30, 2017
komekn:
There is favoritism, racism and discrimination in football no doubt. However, eventually the cream rises to the top.

When we move down south in England the propensity for racism reduces dramatically. I spent a week at Tottenhams academy in 2013 when Ehiogu, Ferdinando and Chris Ramsey were youth coaches. I had never seen so many black members of staff across the board in a football club as I found at Tottenham.

Nathan was not considered the bright star at that time it was Josh Onuma. Nathan has been on loan and has played for all the youth teams but he failed to breakthrough. Football is not just fancy tricks and rainbow flicks but essentially end product will get you far not show boating.

Nathan is not on the level of Gabriel by a huge margin, statistically he has done nothing comparatively they can't share the same page in any shape or form.

I am not sentimentality biased where Nigeria is concerned to the point that I loose all objectivity.

On Sunday I watched Fulham against Hull in which Sone Aluko (tried and tested) gave a star performance after beating a full strength Hull 4-1. In that game a 16 year old black boy played left back and was outstanding scoring one goal. I spoke to the head of Fulhams recruitment at Blackburn last year when they beat Blackburn and he told they were looking for at least £15 million but expect upwards of £20 million.

The idea that racial discrimination is holding Nathan back is simply baseless.
Nice post. Glad Aluko showed Hull what they missed not given him the proper treatment he deserves.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by tglobal(m): 10:37pm On Jan 30, 2017
I would have been indifferent to Cameroon winning this AFCON, if not for the fact that they get to go for Confederations cup in the summer, which will help them further strengthen their team dynamics. I don't want that angry

Like I told an Egyptian friend last year, I will be routing for them because our ceding the ticket to them must not be in vain smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lexyman(m): 10:37pm On Jan 30, 2017
goldfish80:
Cameroun and Egypt are the most tactically disciplined sides in this championship.
These guys stay true to their strategy,hardly out of shape and very hard to beat.
These attributes are the evidence of a well coached team.

In the game against Senegal, if you watched closely you would have noticed they had the clearer chances and merely reduced Senegal to half chances. Football is not all about fancy footwork and passing. You have to respect other people's way of playing the game.

If watched their game throughout this tournament, you will appreciate how tactically aware the Cameroonians are.

Nigerians should be a little bit more circumspect and Liberal when analysing football. I noticed a lot of people don't just fancy this Cameroonians because we have them to deal with in the WCQ.
Thankfully Gernot Rohr have a different view from Nigerians especially those on the cyberspace.
I think you are mixing 'gburugburu football" with tactics , please be sincere with yourself , came round has played nothing.except the free kick they scored in their first encounter in the competition , aside of that nothing spectacular , you will watch them against Ghana on wednessday
expect another wrestling .what Cameround played against senegal was pure dirty game, i repeat if not for their keeper and hardluck against the senegalese !Rohr just have a way of playing a mind game .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:39pm On Jan 30, 2017
Lazyerudite:
Rightly said, however if you noticed to they give out q lot of fouls and that could be their own undoing against Ghana, reason why Cameroon will not go far in the present world cup. An average tactical team can defeat. Oh least I forget Ghana seems to know how to win penalties. So this might be an issue. You don't need to play muscle football with them. Just get one or two defenders to get a yellow card and you can take up the rest from there. The cameroonians don't really score unlike the Egyptians. So I will not compare both. For Nigeria to beat them, Moses must make them commit a lot of fouls and that is it. They will bulge eventually
It will take more than giving yellow cards to win them. They can opt for rotational fouling. Any good tactical manager will opt for this to stop Moses. Call it whatever you want, it will pass as strategy any coach playing Nigeria will consider using to stop Moses.

If the Ghanaians want to beat this Lions, Grant must start his best shooters. Trying to play through Cameroun with precise passes and ariel balls won't work.

Against the Super Eagles, I expect Rohr to tactically lure Cameroun in a trap. By that I mean, giving them false possessions in less threatening areas of the pitch will do the trick.
The gaps they leave could be exploited with fast wingers down the channels.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by soccergoals(m): 10:41pm On Jan 30, 2017
peterd53:
Guardiola explains why Iheanacho is being left out of Manchester City squad
By Ifreke Inyang on January 28, 2017
@dailypostngricles.




Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola, has insisted that Kelechi Iheanacho has a future at the club and that his limited playing time is because he has too many attackers.
The Super Eagles forward has scored four goals this season, but has hardly had a chance under Guardiola.
Iheanacho was left out of the squad for the Premier League game at home against Tottenham, as fears over his City future increase
with the arrival of Gabriel Jesus.
The 20-year-old has also been left out of the squad for Saturday’s FA Cup clash against Crystal Palace. But Guardiola says he remains an important part of his team.
“We have seven strikers, three in the middle, four or five wide. Normally we play two or three,” Guardiola told the Manchester Evening News.
“I don’t know how many others play. We play five or six offensive players and thanks to that we create a lot of chances.
“That is the case if you analyse the games against Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea and United at the beginning of the season, and especially in the first half of the season.
“In the second half, we created much, much more than our opponents but we didn’t create the kind of chances for this kind of player.
“But of course, Kelechi is part of the squad.
“Jesus and Nolito are young strikers, Gabriel, Raheem and Kelechi, they are so, so young strikers and they will be the future. They have to adapt.
“Raheem is only playing in the Champions League for the second time in his life and fighting to win the title so of course we give them time.
“Of course we evaluate how they do in the games and the training sessions.
“At the end I try to be fair based on what I have seen in performances.
“Of course I have to evaluate it based on what I see on the grass.
“It is a case for all the players here – for the strikers, the wingers, the centre-backs, the full backs and the goalkeepers, all of them.
“When they don’t play, they have to win my confidence in them.”
I am really afraid for Iheanacho. It seems Pep doesn't have confidence in him. Even Micheal Owens pointed out that Iheanacho is not the same person he used to be. Pep abeg give our boy the confidence he needs.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:44pm On Jan 30, 2017
lexyman:
I think you are mixing 'gburugburu football" with tactics , please be sincere with yourself , came round has played nothing.except the free kick they scored in their first encounter in the competition , aside of that nothing spectacular , you will watch them against Ghana on wednessday
expect another wrestling .what Cameround played against senegal was pure dirty game, i repeat if not for their keeper and hardluck against the senegalese !Rohr just have a way of playing a mind game .
They haven't lost a football game since Hugo Broos took over,yet you think they play absolutely nothing. Only their goalkeeper came to the party.. Does that even sound logical to you? Even if you don't understand the tactical part for the game.
Anyway, let's just watch and hope the better side wins.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lexyman(m): 10:52pm On Jan 30, 2017
goldfish80:
They haven't lost a football game since Hugo Broos took over,yet you think they play absolutely nothing. Only their goalkeeper came to the party.. Does that even sound logical to you? Even if you don't understand the tactical part for the game.
Anyway, let's just watch and hope the better side wins.
the tactical aspect is to play dirty right ?go and watch that match again it was too rough . After wednessday match please come online
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:55pm On Jan 30, 2017
lexyman:
the tactical aspect is to play dirty right ?go and watch that match again it was too rough . After wednessday match please come online
I've been online since match day 1 when I raised the alarm about this Camerounians.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:59pm On Jan 30, 2017
Yeah like Jesus doesn't showboat too.... Only Oduwa does that.

I don't speak stats here. Football-wise based on footwork, fancy tricks and pace and dare, Jesus and Nathan are the same and saying that Nathan hasn't risen up the ladder because he's not good enough is also baseless.

For crying out loud.... Anyway, not surprised you will rule out color discrimination here just because you wanna make a case for Gabby Jesus. So sweet... smiley

komekn:
There is favoritism, racism and discrimination in football no doubt. However, eventually the cream rises to the top.

When we move down south in England the propensity for racism reduces dramatically. I spent a week at Tottenhams academy in 2013 when Ehiogu, Ferdinando and Chris Ramsey were youth coaches. I had never seen so many black members of staff across the board in a football club as I found at Tottenham.

Nathan was not considered the bright star at that time it was Josh Onuma. Nathan has been on loan and has played for all the youth teams but he failed to breakthrough. Football is not just fancy tricks and rainbow flicks but essentially end product will get you far not show boating.

Nathan is not on the level of Gabriel by a huge margin, statistically he has done nothing comparatively they can't share the same page in any shape or form.

I am not sentimentality biased where Nigeria is concerned to the point that I loose all objectivity.

On Sunday I watched Fulham against Hull in which Sone Aluko (tried and tested) gave a star performance after beating a full strength Hull 4-1. In that game a 16 year old black boy played left back and was outstanding scoring one goal. I spoke to the head of Fulhams recruitment at Blackburn last year when they beat Blackburn and he told they were looking for at least £15 million but expect upwards of £20 million.

The idea that racial discrimination is holding Nathan back is simply baseless.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:08pm On Jan 30, 2017
He's so good you had to repeat the same sentence "three times" in one post.... grin

Anyway, I too have noticed the lad. And him starting games for KAA Gent says a lot... Followed him at As Trencin. Lad is really talented but a call-up now is a bit too fast.

whizola:
I watched the gent vs club bugged match. It think Samuel Kalu should get a callup ahead of ahmed musa. He was brilliantI watched the gent vs club bugged match. It think Samuel Kalu should get a callup ahead of ahmed musa. He was brilliantI watched the gent vs club bugged match. It think Samuel Kalu should get a callup ahead of ahmed musa. He was brilliant
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:30pm On Jan 30, 2017
A Winger is NOT A STRIKER.... A winger is a forward/attacker and equally considered a midfielder. These terms are all defined.

A Striker is a majorly a centre-forward. Both "striker" and "centre-forward" terms are used interchangeably in modern day football.

The fusion you speak of in Wingers are exemplified by the likes of C.Ronaldo... He's a wing-forward/winger (more of a wing-forward) and can also play striker or withdrawn striker.

C.Ronaldo is no typical winger. He evolved big-time.

I could use Messi as example too. Messi is wing-forward/false9/withdrawn striker super hybrid.... He's no typical winger also.

"Forwards/attackers" are the generic words for men of the final third....

Their types include:

-The Centre-forward/Striker

-The Wing Forwards

-The Wingers (RW/LW or LM/RM) **Equally counted as midfielders....**

-The Second striker or withdrawn striker/deep-lying forward

-The False 9

-The "off the shoulder" striker

-The goal poacher... Etc

-I would add the AMFs but they are actually midfielders... Only Hybrid AMFs can be called true forwards.



komekn:
I have known Raheem since he was 14 and he has played as either striker or winger. Indeed one season he led the line at Liverpool.

Essentially the modern game requires a fusion, a winger is a striker that is either coming from the left or the right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:39pm On Jan 30, 2017
Them pass us for national team naa.... Who wan drag that one? grin

And you're wrong ooo... I do follow local talents in Brazil. You never hear of Evander or one marcelinho like that? wink


Anyway shaa... At least you agree on the brazillian "pele and zico genes" factor. grin

And yes naa.... I get reason why I call midfield... For attack alone, Neymar don kill us... For back, David Luiz, Thiago Silva, Miranda, Felipe luis, Marcelo...... Haba!!!!

We get better goalkeeper shaa... grin

You think I no see ya trap on time... That's why I focused on just midfield.. Mikel lords it over those brazillian midfielders. EOD.

But as a whole... Abeg.. I will never wanna say The brazillian national team should be compared to ours... Ours is still young and despite the fine results of the team in the WCQs so far, we got a long long way to go... #fact

forgiveness:
Ok na, we pass dem for U21 but dem pass us for National team. grin Abi, no bi so!? grin

That one no even follow because we no dey follow Brazilian league and players else we for no say Brazilian talent be like fish wey no dey dry for inside water. Meaning they must have but we are not aware or we don't care. EOD grin


Gabriel Jesus don win laurels for em self and club with em skills but Nathan still dey manage for Academy. That is the big difference between them. grin

Make em break enter Tot first team na. Oduwa na British and Naija na. grin Although, wetin you talk about Brazilian factor na true but wetin man pikin go about dat one na?

Let us say, Mikel is better than all their midfielders combine. What about the other positions? grin

Na dere you go fear fear. grin

We-re wayooo. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:52pm On Jan 30, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Yeah like Jesus doesn't showboat too.... Only Oduwa does that.

I don't speak stats here. Football-wise based on footwork, fancy tricks and pace and dare, Jesus and Nathan are the same and saying that Nathan hasn't risen up the ladder because he's not good enough is also baseless.

For crying out loud.... Anyway, not surprised you will rule out color discrimination here just because you wanna make a case for Gabby Jesus. So sweet... smiley
Actually my post was more generic with regard to racism and discrimination and not specific to Gabriel.
Furthermore, I do not think Gabriel would classify himself as white.

But you claimed that racial discrimination is what is holding Nathan back. If he was based in the north of England I would say there is some possibility. But certainly not in London what so ever.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:56pm On Jan 30, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
A Winger is NOT A STRIKER.... A winger is a forward/attacker and equally considered a midfielder. These terms are all defined.

A Striker is a majorly a centre-forward. Both "striker" and "centre-forward" terms are used interchangeably in modern day football.

The fusion you speak of in Wingers are exemplified by the likes of C.Ronaldo... He's a wing-forward/winger (more of a wing-forward) and can also play striker or withdrawn striker.

C.Ronaldo is no typical winger. He evolved big-time.

I could use Messi as example too. Messi is wing-forward/false9/withdrawn striker super hybrid.... He's no typical winger also.

"Forwards/attackers" are the generic words for men of the final third....

Their types include:

-The Centre-forward/Striker

-The Wing Forwards

-The Wingers (RW/LW or LM/RM) **Equally counted as midfielders....**

-The Second striker or withdrawn striker/deep-lying forward

-The False 9

-The "off the shoulder" striker

-The goal poacher... Etc

-I would add the AMFs but they are actually midfielders... Only Hybrid AMFs can be called true forwards.
I gave a very shortened indicative comment on modern football fusion.

I am not going get into a discussion on definitive diction on a discourse that is intrinsically subjective. That would be a waste of time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:02am On Jan 31, 2017
I have an aunt in London who lives with her husband and kids, Sir. You think because racism is not as pronounced or "made obvious" in london as it is in other parts, then it doesn't exist? I disagree with your angle... My aunt tells me otherwise. smiley

But it's okay... Your beliefs not mine.

And hey! About Gabby Jesus... We speak football here. Who doesn't want some fancy footwork-conjuring brazillian on their team?? Who wouldn't want someone from the national bloodline of Pele and Zico?? Are the brazillians discriminated against or underrated like the Africans? Na wa ooo... sad




komekn:
Actually my post was more generic with regard to racism and discrimination and not specific to Gabriel.
Furthermore, I do not think Gabriel would classify himself as white.

But you claimed that racial discrimination is what is holding Nathan back. If he was based in the north of England I would say there is some possibility. But certainly not in London what so ever.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:03am On Jan 31, 2017
You said a winger is a striker from either right or left when explaining fusion... And I say no, you're wrong.


A striker is a centre-forward pre-dominantly. Simple.

And talking about "waste of time", it didn't take me much to state the difference between forwards and strikers.... Did it? smiley waste of time indeed...

komekn:
I gave a very shortened indicative comment on modern football fusion.

I am not going get into a discussion on definitive diction on a discourse that is intrinsically subjective. That would be a waste of time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:39am On Jan 31, 2017
Conte ‘sorry’ Mikel left Chelsea


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Mikel John Obi
Chelsea manager Antonio Conte claims he was
"sorry" to see Super Eagles captain Mikel John Obi leave Stamford Bridge to join Tianjin TEDA.

Mikel departed Chelsea this month to join the
Chinese Super League club after failing to break
into Conte’s side in the first half of the 2016/17
season.

Speaking during his press conference on Friday
on speculations linking Branislav Ivanovic with a
move away from Chelsea, Conte revealed that he was not the happiest man in the world when the Mikel departed the Stamford Bridge club.

“I think Ivan (Ivanovic), he played a lot of games for this club and he won a lot for this club.

“He is 32 and I think he can play for many years.

“He is able to continue his career in the right way at the top level. But it is also important to respect the decision of the player.

“This type of a player is a legend in the club and if you are not playing a lot you can make a decision to go and play with another team.

“For sure because when you start the season to
work with a squad and a group of players you try to create a link between the players and I, my staff.

“For sure, we are sorry if someone decides to go away. The same for Oscar and for Mikel, for
example.

“But we know this is football and we are prepared for every situation,” Conte said.
Mikel won 11 trophies during his time at Chelsea, including two Premier League titles and one Uefa Champions League title.

Mikel joined Chelsea as a 19-year-old from
Norwegian Premier League side Lyn in 2006 but
did not make a single appearance under Conte
with the Nigerian international admitted playing
time was a factor in his decision to leave.


Source: http://mobi.supersport.com/football/nigeria/news/170130/Conte_sorry_Mikel_left_Chelsea
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:44am On Jan 31, 2017
Emirate FA Cup – Nigerian Players Know Fifth Round Foes, Ikeme Up Against Victor Moses

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The draws for the fifth round of the Emirate FA
Cup has been made with some nigerian players
set to square up against each other.

Championship side Wolverhampton Wanderers
will be at home against Chelsea, in a tie that
could see Carl Ikeme return for Wolves after
missing the previous round due to suspension.
He will be up against his national team pal Victor Moses who is expected to be fielded by Antonio Conte despite missing their last cup tie against Crystal Palace.


Meanwhile Alex Iwobi will travel with Arsenal to
National league side Sutton FC, who are the
surprise team in this year FA Cup for coming this far despite their inferior status.

Hope Akpan is expected to be in the line up for
Blackburn Rovers when they take on holders
Manchester United, while Fred Onyedima who
played 18 minutes of Millwall shock win over
Liverpool will be eyeing more game time when
they play the winner between Derby County and Leicester City.


Omatsone Aluko who was on target for Fulham in the last round will expectedly be in the line up when they take on London rivals Tottenham
Hotspur.

The games will take place from the 17th to 20th of February 2017.

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Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/30/emirate-fa-cup-nigerian-players-know-fifth-round-foes-ikeme-up-against-victor-moses/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:47am On Jan 31, 2017
Breaking – Nosa Igiebor Joins Obaboana At Caykur Rizespor

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Super Eagles midfielder Nosa Igiebor has joined
Turkish side Caykur Rizespor from Israeli side
Maccabi Tel Aviv, Owngoalnigeria.com understands.

The move will be finalised tommorow as the a deal was reportedly agreed between both clubs few hours ago, bringing his three years association to with the club to a temporary halt.

He will join Rizespor, where fellow AFCON 2013
winner Godfrey Obaboana currently plays on a
loan deal untill the end of the season, with the
Turkish side having the option of signing him on a permanent deal in the summer.

Igiebor will reportedly cost Rizespor around 1.5
million Euros, if they want to turn his loan deal
into a permanent one in the summer according to various reports in Israel.

He is also the second Nigerian to join the club this January with Bright Edomwonyi moving from Sturm Graz to the modest Turkish side, bringing to three the number of Nigerians at the club.

This season he has scored six goals in 24 games for Maccabi Tel Aviv both in European and domestic competitions.


Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/30/breaking-nosa-igiebor-joins-obaboana-at-caykur-rizespor/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:54am On Jan 31, 2017
Odion Ighalo on his way to China

Nigerian and Watford striker, Odion Ighalo may be on its way to China. But he may change his mind if he accepts the loan bid by West Brom Albion.

According to a report in Watford Observer,
Watford have reportedly agreed a £20m deal with Chinese club Chongchun Yatai the striker.

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Odion Ighalo
Head coach Walter Mazzarri confirmed last week the club had received several offers for the Nigerian striker.

Ighalo’s form has nosedived in the last year
scoring just two goals this season for Watford.

The 27-year-old has previously turned down a
move to China but with first-team chances likely
to be limited, after the signings of Mauro Zarate
and M’Baye Niang, Ighalo may decide his future
lies away from Vicarage Road.

Ighalo was left out of the squad for yesterday’s FA Cup defeat at Millwall and is unlikely to be
involved at Arsenal tomorrow.

Meanwhile, West Bromwich Albion are also
bidding for Ighalo’s service, according to Mail
Online.

West Brom have asked to take Ighalo on loan.
Albion made enquiries earlier in the window for
Ighalo but are reluctant to match Watford’s
valuation.

However, Watford are unlikely to agree to a loan at this stage having agreed to accept an offer from Changchun Yatai of around £22million.

Ighalo has struggled for form this season.

This barren spell is in stark contrast to the
Nigerian’s first year in the top flight last season,
when he netted 16 in 37 matches.

West Brom are looking for a new forward after
finally selling Saido Berahino, the striker having
joined Stoke City this month.

Watford meanwhile have signed striker M’Baye
Niang on loan from AC Milan and Mauro Zarate for £2.5m for Fiorentina, which would give them
enough options should Ighalo leave for either the Far East or the West Midlands.


Source: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/01/odion-ighalo-way-china/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:36am On Jan 31, 2017
Watford boss Walter Mazzarri admits Isaac
Success' return will be 'like a new signing'


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LENGTHY ABSENCE: Isaac Success has missed 15 games through injury this season (Photo by PA)
Watford boss Walter Mazzarri feels that Isaac
Success' return will feel like the club have made a new signing.

No date has been set for Success' return although he is expected to return to full training at some point this week.

The Nigerian forward has made just eight
appearances for the Hornets so far this season,
missing large chunks with a hamstring problem.

The Hornets' head coach was asked if he would
seek a replacement for Odion Ighalo, who is
expected to move to China in the coming days,
but explained that Success, alongside M'Baye
Niang and Mauro Zarate have already replaced
him.

Mazzarri said: "If we get back Isaac Success he
will be like an new signing.

"He hasn't been playing a lot of games and if we manage to get him back completely he'll be a new signing for us.

"Zarate is available from next Saturday, Niang
from tomorrow, so I think we sign these two
players to substitute the departure of some
players."

He also explained what he expects Niang to bring to the side, with the Frenchman tipped to be named on the bench for tomorrow's game at
Arsenal.

"We signed him because we believe in this young player; he has great qualities," he added.

"The important thing is that he gets a good
environment here and feels comfortable as soon
as possible.

"He's got great running qualities, a lot of good
technique as well. If he manages to understand
our mechanism and how we play, he can be very important for us and he's important for the
Premier League."



Source: http://m.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/watford-boss-walter-mazzarri-admits-isaac-success-return-will-be-like-a-new-signing/story-30098083-detail/story.html
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by terzurum5(op): 7:13am On Jan 31, 2017
AF Nigeria Nigeria Premier League 2016 Wikki Tourists
Ifeanyiubah star signing Obaje targets goals on debut


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Obaje in Wikki celebration

FC Ifeanyiubah star signing Godwin Obaje has said he hopes to score when he makes his debut most likely at home against champions Rangers.


Last week, Obaje completed a sensational transfer to the Federation Cup holders and was expected to wear the colours of his new club against his former team in a matchday 5 fixture at the Tafawa Balewa Stadium, Bauchi, today.


But the striker, who scored 18 goals to emerge the 2015/2016 NPFL top scorer, revealed he was still in Bauchi and would only link up with his new teammates at FC Ifeanyiubah next week.


"I'm in Bauchi now. I'll join them next week after sorting out a few personal issues. So I don't think I will be part of the team against my former club, Wikki Tourists. Hopefully, I could start with the next game which is a home match against Rangers,” he said.


"I know much is expected of me and I hope to deliver. Scoring against Rangers in my first game is important and I just pray it happens.”


Obaje missed a chance to sign for top Russian club Spartak Moscow as well as Tunisian clubs Etoile du Sahel and Club Africain before he opted for a deal with FC Ifeanyiubah.

By Sab Osuji

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