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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 7:20am On Feb 22, 2017
Sexina851:


next time read clearly to assimilate,because there was nowhere In my response I told u people die because dey deserve it

This is ur quote below in case u have forgotten what u wrote

Sexina851:
Op I really understand ur feeling. I felt even worse when I lost my mom. I later understood dat it has a lot to do with one's personal life, examine urself before u blame God, check out ur life and wat u do behind closed door wen u think no one is watching. Secret sins, unforgiveness, fornication etc will hinder prayers Dr. I won't way all on faith blah blah. The Bible already said "God is not mocked, whatever a man sow he shall reap". Even naturally there is a law of karma, and you know how it works. Look at me everybody has every right to question God cos we are humans and we feel, don't mind the "faith is in levels people".. Just search your life.dats all I can say..cos it's beta for one to die and discover there's no God Dan to die and discover otherwise

Read what u wrote, it implies that the dead is mostly to blame for their death. The most pitiful thing in ur post is that u even started by stating u lost u mum and was pained BUT later understood that it has much to DO WITH ONE'S PERSONAL LIFE. Dosent this imply that ur mums death has to do with her personal life? It's either u don't know how to express urself in writing, or u meant another thing while writing this shit.
How pathetic.
And went ahead to type all the following gibberish talking about karma and how people sow what they reap. And u still have the mouth to say I didn't read well. How else do u want to say people deserve their death?
U need to start respecting urself.

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by CatfishBilly: 8:30am On Feb 22, 2017
Harvard13:


No. Some prayers are answered, some aren't. If you say a prayer over a specific issue, its Godwho determines the reply. If he wants to "rewrite" the case, its now up to him.

My point is, the fact that you prayed doesn't always mean it will always be answered
So, prayer is like rolling a dice and hoping for a double 6? Since it all depends on God's sympathy to your case, not your faith, your righteous life or how bad you want the answer to your prayers?

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by CatfishBilly: 3:01pm On Feb 22, 2017
phensbassey:
I was in a hospital recently, the patient beside. my bed died of anemia.. pastors came few hours later, prayed, sweating shouting all over the ward. still nothing happened, I actually felt pith for them...
I've come to this conclusion though, Prayers don't work inside a Hospital. They might work elsewhere, but definitely not in a hospital.

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by mfm04622: 6:42am On Feb 23, 2017
Omudia:
Do you know what a miracle is? Use google to know more pls. A woman without a womb has no business bearing children, so when it happens its indeed a miracle.

If you go to MFM and know this, then I'm sorry for you.

My MFM mean Masters in Facilities Management, not the church
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Nobody: 7:19am On Feb 23, 2017
Ok
mfm04622:


My MFM mean Masters in Facilities Management, not the church
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 12:17pm On Feb 24, 2017
frank317:


This is ur quote below in case u have forgotten what u wrote



Read what u wrote, it implies that the dead is mostly to blame for their death. The most pitiful thing in ur post is that u even started by stating u lost u mum and was pained BUT later understood that it has much to DO WITH ONE'S PERSONAL LIFE. Dosent this imply that ur mums death has to do with her personal life? It's either u don't know how to express urself in writing, or u meant another thing while writing this shit.
How pathetic.
And went ahead to type all the following gibberish talking about karma and how people sow what they reap. And u still have the mouth to say I didn't read well. How else do u want to say people deserve their death?
U need to start respecting urself.

pls can u just stop quoting me ....ur arguments are wack if u.dont understand wat i was implying by karma den dats ur business.stop trying to prove d intelligence u dont have cos if u did have it den u would be able to assimilate a simple write up.since last week. And pls stay off my mums case cos it seems to me dat u dont have common sense, u just type watever makes u sound learned but sorry its one thing to be learned and its anoda thing to have common sense
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 8:49pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:


pls can u just stop quoting me ....ur arguments are wack if u.dont understand wat i was implying by karma den dats ur business.stop trying to prove d intelligence u dont have cos if u did have it den u would be able to assimilate a simple write up.since last week. And pls stay off my mums case cos it seems to me dat u dont have common sense, u just type watever makes u sound learned but sorry its one thing to be learned and its anoda thing to have common sense


Awwww... Fortunately, I didn't bring up ur mum in a public forum... U did and made nonsense of her death by saying she died out of her own personal fault. I did t say this.i just pointed it out in ur post. I was actually hurt by what u said and that was why I quoted u.

U said u lost ur mum But u however learnt that people die out of their own fault. U blamed death on karma and all that. I am sorry for the loss of ur mum, but I am more sorry that u lack the common sense to understand that it's not ur mums fault she died.

Sexina851:

Op I really understand ur feeling. I felt even worse when I lost my mom. I later understood dat it has a lot to do with one's personal life,

U said the above not me.

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 9:47pm On Feb 25, 2017
frank317:



Awwww... Fortunately, I didn't bring up ur mum in a public forum... U did and made nonsense of her death by saying she died out of her own personal fault. I did t say this.i just pointed it out in ur post. I was actually hurt by what u said and that was why I quoted u.

U said u lost ur mum But u however learnt that people die out of their own fault. U blamed death on karma and all that. I am sorry for the loss of ur mum, but I am more sorry that u lack the common sense to understand that it's not ur mums fault she died.



U said the above not me.

Okay I already told you u were quoting me wrong just to make a point....i will refer you to the topic of discussion here, And then I was trying to tell him at times our prayers are not answered cos of our personal life . And at times ur prayer might still not be answered if such person is suffering karma.. Either ways death happened. I didn't generalize that people cos it's their fault.
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by LiberaDeus: 10:55pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:


Okay I already told you u were quoting me wrong just to make a point....i will refer you to the topic of discussion here, And then I was trying to tell him at times our prayers are not answered cos of our personal life . And at times ur prayer might still not be answered if such person is suffering karma.. Either ways death happened. I didn't generalize that people cos it's their fault.

Do you know how callous religion makes you sound?

A normal but mysterious biological process of death that occurs in every living organism whether good or bad as a result of so many factors has been reduced to karma or something personal by you.

So what did your mum do wrong to deserve death?

You guys will twist and turn just to defend rubbish.
A middle aged woman died simple, is that to hard to accept?
Must you cope with it by still trying to twist your warped doctrine thereby entertaining the possibility of her doing wrong that was deserving a painful death

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:16pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:


Okay I already told you u were quoting me wrong just to make a point....i will refer you to the topic of discussion here, And then I was trying to tell him at times our prayers are not answered cos of our personal life . And at times ur prayer might still not be answered if such person is suffering karma.. Either ways death happened. I didn't generalize that people cos it's their fault.


I am truly sorry for bringing up ur mum again... But based on what I said above,why do u think ur mum died... Please ensure u relate it with ur statement above.

U mentioned that

1. (In red) at times our prayers are not answered (and people die) cos of our personal life...

2. (In bold) and at times our prayers might still not be answered (and people die) because such person is suffering from karma



So pls which of the above refers to the case of ur mum
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 11:29pm On Feb 25, 2017
LiberaDeus:


Do you know how callous religion makes you sound?

A normal but mysterious biological process of death that occurs in every living organism whether good or bad as a result of so many factors has been reduced to karma or something personal by you.

So what did your mum do wrong to deserve death?

You guys will twist and turn just to defend rubbish.
A middle aged woman died simple, is that to hard to accept?
Must you cope with it by still trying to twist your warped doctrine thereby entertaining the possibility of her doing wrong that was deserving a painful death

Mind your language, if u want to quote then be very reasonable with it choice of words. Can't u pass a simple message without vulgar words? Please don't quote me again if you are below 20
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:34pm On Feb 25, 2017
LiberaDeus:


Do you know how callous religion makes you sound?

A normal but mysterious biological process of death that occurs in every living organism whether good or bad as a result of so many factors has been reduced to karma or something personal by you.

So what did your mum do wrong to deserve death?

You guys will twist and turn just to defend rubbish.
A middle aged woman died simple, is that to hard to accept?
Must you cope with it by still trying to twist your warped doctrine thereby entertaining the possibility of her doing wrong that was deserving a painful death

My brother can u just imagine how these people think?

I am even baffled to see her call my arguments wack when am picking up my points directly from her quotes... She even says I am misquoting her and misunderstanding her when I am quoting directly from what she wrote.

If she thinks people's death is as a result of their personal life or karma, let's hear what she thinks of her late mum. Let's see how she would separate her mum's case from her selfish and insensitive believe.

I Just want to make her realize how her belief makes her sound insensitive about other people's misfortune and yet not relate it to her own case.
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 11:36pm On Feb 25, 2017
frank317:



I am truly sorry for bringing up ur mum again... But based on what I said above,why do u think ur mum died... Please ensure u relate it with ur statement above.

U mentioned that

1. (In red) at times our prayers are not answered (and people die) cos of our personal life...

2. (In bold) and at times our prayers might still not be answered (and people die) because such person is suffering from karma



So pls which of the above refers to the case of ur mum


I give up on you now. Hold on to your whatever u believe and I will hold on to mine.. Just let my mama rest in peace.
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:43pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:


Mind your language, if u want to quote then be very reasonable with it choice of words. Can't u pass a simple message without vulgar words? Please don't quote me again if you are below 20

What vulgar word did he use? Please where did he use a vulgar word?

The worst part is that u don't even see how wicked and insensitive u sound yet u feel someone is vulgar just because he is trying to put ur insensitivity in line.
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:46pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:



I give up on you now. Hold on to your whatever u believe and I will hold on to mine.. Just let my mama rest in peace.

Of course I will... But just know that when u blame other people's death on personal reasons and karma... U are indirectly doing that to ur late mum and that is very very bad of u.

Go and sin no more.

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 11:51pm On Feb 25, 2017
frank317:


What vulgar word did he use? Please where did he use a vulgar word?

The worst part is that u don't even see how wicked and insensitive u sound yet u feel someone is vulgar just because he is trying to put ur insensitivity in line.

Added to your slow reception is blindness also.... Just go abeg
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:58pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:


Added to your slow reception is blindness also.... Just go abeg

I think at this time I should give up on u. U are both insensitive and unreasonable.

At this point the best thing I should tell u is fuk off.

Next time respect ur late mum
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 12:16am On Feb 26, 2017
frank317:


I think at this time I should give up on u. U are both insensitive and unreasonable.

At this point the best thing I should tell u is fuk off.

Next time respect ur late mum

LOL and next time learn to mind ur business..
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 12:37am On Feb 26, 2017
frank317:


I think at this time I should give up on u. U are both insensitive and unreasonable.

At this point the best thing I should tell u is fuk off.

Next time respect ur late mum

lol And next time kindly mind ur business..
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by LiberaDeus: 5:47am On Feb 26, 2017
Sexina851:


Mind your language, if u want to quote then be very reasonable with it choice of words. Can't u pass a simple message without vulgar words? Please don't quote me again if you are below 20

I am most likely older than you
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by LiberaDeus: 5:48am On Feb 26, 2017
frank317:


My brother can u just imagine how these people think?

I am even baffled to see her call my arguments wack when am picking up my points directly from her quotes... She even says I am misquoting her and misunderstanding her when I am quoting directly from what she wrote.

If she thinks people's death is as a result of their personal life or karma, let's hear what she thinks of her late mum. Let's see how she would separate her mum's case from her selfish and insensitive believe.

I Just want to make her realize how her belief makes her sound insensitive about other people's misfortune and yet not relate it to her own case.

That is what religion does to the average mind

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 7:21am On Feb 26, 2017
LiberaDeus:


I am most likely older than you


The 'Likely' is better, but in case you are just learn how to pass a simple message next time without sounding childish
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 7:29am On Feb 26, 2017
LiberaDeus:


I am most likely older than you


I like the 'most likely' part of it.. But am not sure, but just incase u are learn how to express your opinion publicly without sounding 14yr old.
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 7:30am On Feb 26, 2017
LiberaDeus:


I am most likely older than you


I like the 'most likely' part of it.. But am not sure, but just incase u are learn how to express your opinion publicly without sounding 14yrs old.
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Breakdbond: 9:56am On Feb 26, 2017
Setaje:
This same God healed someone I no of cancer wiv out even taking drugs or chemotherapy. This same God healed someone that had issue of blood for 5 years. Yes the person bled for five years. Wore pad everyday. I just laugh at you people. For as many unanswered prayers you no, there are many answered prayers to counter it. Whether you believe or not, I am a living testimony.
@ the bold, is it not obvious now that even if u pray to your wardrobe or a wall some percentage of your prayers will still be answered?

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by LiberaDeus: 10:52am On Feb 26, 2017
Sexina851:



I like the 'most likely' part of it.. But am not sure, but just incase u are learn how to express your opinion publicly without sounding 14yrs old.

Learn how to post without tripling your post due to technical handicap.
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Sexina851(f): 4:25pm On Feb 26, 2017
LiberaDeus:

Learn how to post without tripling your post due to technical handicap.
Good, now u can mind your business.. Bye
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by LiberaDeus: 5:05pm On Feb 26, 2017
Sexina851:


Good, now u can mind your business.. Bye

Bye christard.
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by avaa(m): 10:11am On Feb 27, 2017
It was really difficult for her to admit. Doesn't take an Einstein to deduce from her earlier post that she thinks people should be blamed for their tragedies.

The boko-haram victims in the north east including the unfortunate victims of the Nigerian airforce misfire, victims of the Southern Kaduna massacre, victims of money rituals down south, young girls of age 5 and below who continuously suffered/suffers canal defilement, the family who had their home bugled and all their hard work carted away, the two young girls who were clubbed t.o death by a raving lunatic and so on and so forth. It is all their fault. They committed some very serious sins and are suffering from dear old karma.

At least according to Miss/Mrs. Sexina.

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Nobody: 11:29am On Feb 27, 2017
CatfishBilly:
It's not a hidden fact that Medical Doctors have a huge number of Atheists amongst them, I mean, they see how ineffective prayer is in the face of death on daily basis. When the Bible has already said that we should ask and we shall receive.

The hospital wards have heard more prayers than churches but still, patients still drop like flies.

I'll be using this thread to share stories of patients I've lost in the face of prayers and I encourage doctors and non doctors alike to come forth and share their stories.

Failed prayers do not happen.
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Nobody: 11:37pm On Feb 27, 2017
Hi CatfishBilly,
I am extremely close to my family member who is a medical doctor (and has been for a long time--40+yrs) & has seen his fair share of suffering and death.....yet he still believes in God.
Having studied the body and how intricately and beautifully made it is, and how each organ has such specific functions, he can't see how there wouldn't be a God that created us.
Sir you must know that we live in a sin-riddled world. We are not guaranteed that we won't have trials, sufferings, and even death. Death hits ALL of us.
I lost my mother at age 25...to something that we never thought could happen.
While, I wanted to question God, I didn't doubt His existence...
Praying in faith doesn't guarantee that the prayer wil be answered in just the manner that you want.
Sometimes, tremendous blessings come out of tragedies.
God understands our sufferings...and there is hope beyond the grave...for those who believe.

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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by urheme: 5:44pm On Feb 28, 2017
CatfishBilly:

I've come to this conclusion though, Prayers don't work inside a Hospital. They might work elsewhere, but definitely not in a hospital.


elsewhere

perhaps in your kitchen undecided

here is a confused atheist and an half baked doctor that claimed a christian.....you are just a calamity

after all the death records that you have achieved.....this is finally your conclusion......"works elsewhere" grin cry grin cry grin cry

What have you achieved so far with this thread.....you could not even take a stand.....christian or atheist undecided undecided undecided

May God have mercy on your soul.

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