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alBHAGDADI:
Now its clear you are an atheist. His death wasn't to stop the people of Now from sinning. It was to sit them from being damned by their sins.

Pls, if you do t believe in God, just go and play with your atheist friends.

I am not an atheist,
and I have the right to my opinion.
like I said, his sacrifice is not a sacrifice if he knew he was going to resurrect, and also if there was no difference; sins are still punishable.

lie lie n fake religion..... Jesus is not a son of a God. He was created by God like Adams n Eve. confused people. Thank u

MrMontella:
I am not an atheist,
and I have the right to my opinion.
like I said, his sacrifice is not a sacrifice if he knew he was going to resurrect, and also if there was no difference; sins are still punishable.

His sacrifice was the perfect sacrifice simply because he resurrected. This means that all those people who believe in him will be resurrected in the last Day.

MrMontella:
Isaiah never prophesied about Jesus, that prophecy was for king Hezekiah...that the birth of a child would be a sign that his enemies alliances would fail and that he would prevail in battle against them.
how can a statement about something in 700 years time be of comfort to Hezekiah?


even the translation of that passage in the Bible you are using is wrong..

the word doesn't mean virgin but rather "young woman ".

modern day bibles translate it correctly these days, such as the RSV.
which is

"look,......... the young woman is with child/ will bear a child ,and he shall be called Emmanuel ".........


to further prove my point, Jesus was never called Emmanuel by his parents.

don't use your logical reasoning to understand the bible. God promise Abraham that his seeds will be uncountable when he yet has a child. also Jesus says in one verse eat my flesh it is food indeed. logic cannot be used in almost all the verses of the Bible

NamieNamie:
The only light I see is you suffer from mentacide -a suicidal African who prays to a god who looks nothing like him - a foreign god who watched while his people were murdered, and raped into submission.

Bro You have some serious Hate Issue, The only reason you breathing right now is because he is merciful, Regardless of how ignorant we are of his Love and protection over us, i don't know what happened to you, but Whatever it is you survived for a Reason, if i were you I'd spend everyday of my life being thankful, Being alive my friend is a gift i can never be thankful a enough for. i suggest you start appreciating the fact the life you have isn't yours, but he lets you get by regardless of your sins,


just so you know I'm no born again, i hardly go to church even, but i know the reason why i get up every morning, and i am forever grateful to him. you should too, you hate God because you do not understand him...

alBHAGDADI:
The prophecy wasn't for Hezekiah's time but a revelation of what ISRAEL will go through in the hands of its enemies. Hezekiah was king of Israel and had to know what Israel's future will be. NOW, tell me which virgin gave birth asides Mary?

Emmanuel is a title and it means God with us.

no, it was clearly for king Ahaz, and I can post the Bible here to prove it.

also like I said, the word Isaiah himself used, does not mean virgin, but rather young women. Isaiah never said a virgin.

also, perhaps you do not know that Jesus being born of a virgin makes it impossible for him to be the Messiah also; based on the true messianic prophecies.

please tell me when Jesus was named the title "God with us "..

ps:its ahaz n

MrMontella:
if Jesus came as a final and perfect sacrifice for sin, and yet after his sacrifice, sin still is in abundance and relative to punishment, then he failed woefully

the Bible is a spiritual book, but you are using your human logical reasoning to understand and explain it. the winning the Bible is talking about is different from what you are assuming

walls01:
don't use your logical reasoning to understand the bible. God promise Abraham that his seeds will be uncountable when he yet has a child. also Jesus says in one verse eat my flesh it is food indeed. logic cannot be used in almost all the verses of the Bible

logic is what keeps you alive, everyday.

NamieNamie:
What make you say God is good when he is revengeful, full of hate and wants you to burn in hell for not believing in him? God is hate.

The Air you are Breathing Did you manufacture it? Who woke up you up this morning?

walls01:
the Bible is a spiritual book, but you are using your human logical reasoning to understand and explain it. the winning the Bible is talking about is different from what you are assuming

the bible is a collection of human written books.

Its so disheartening that some acclaimed Christian bodies have made it a point of duty to teach against such an important aspect of our salvation.

alBHAGDADI:
His sacrifice was the perfect sacrifice simply because he resurrected. This means that all those people who believe in him will be resurrected in the last Day.

go and learn what a TRUE SACRIFICE is/means.

SirGoldEjike:
The Air you are Breathing Did you manufacture it? Who woke up you up this morning?

air; plants.
you wake up, same reason giraffes wake up.

i dont believe anything passed on to my by whites. i also dont believe anything done by wicked black negros

Melchizedek1:
(1) Across the universe are many religions. Most of this continents, countries, communities, tribes and societies knows the depth of what they believes in while others don't really know the truth to the root of there believes. Whatsoever you teach a child in his/her tender age, he/she grows with it, and believes so much in it, just because the child is taught to believe in it. Every human being have in one point or the other thought about God, but the deception and misconceptions about the creator have left many people confused on the path that truly leads to Him, and this have made many people to become atheist. Am not much concerned with those that knows the truth to the root of there religion, but am very much concerned with those who thinks that they knows but don't really know.

(2) I don't have a problem with numerous religions in this world, but I have a problem with modernized paganism deceiving people who are truly seeking for the creator with lies, all in the name of Christianity. Many people are been misled, taught to believe that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the same God of Christians, with all the multiple errors in Christian scripture (new testament) yet people calls it the word of God. Only in the new testament that you will see lies contradicting itself, example; Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23 disagrees on the father of Joseph, husband to marry the father of Jesus that is the mentor and god of Christians, even his origin can't be traced. Only in the new testament that you will see a prophecy given by Jesus about his return that never came to pass (matthew 10:23, 16:28) yet people are been deceived to follow him and believe in such an inconsistent book.

(3) I don't have a problem with the multiple errors in the new testament, but I have a problem with its contents trying to link itself with the book of law (old testament). This are some of the lies; Matthew 27:9-10 says that Judas' payment was prophesied by Jeremiah, and then he quotes zechariah 11:12-13 as proof. Matthew 2:15 quoted the second half of Hosea 11:1, left the first half because the first half of the verse made it clear that the verse refers to God calling the Israelites out of Egypt, and this has nothing to do with Jesus. This is few of the multiple errors, and if you are a pastor yet you don't know of this, then you don't study your bible. If you are a committed Christian yet you don't see that there's something wrong with Christian scriptures then where is your commitment?

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is One and not in any three form. Christianity claims to have its root on the book of law (old testament) yet they can't quote "Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the Lord he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else". Deuteronomy 4:39. Christianity isn't different from paganism, it's even the worst because it is programed to deceive and mislead with lies. They may be good morals in the new testament teachings but that doesn't make it different from others that worships idols because those, also have good morals in there belief. #Practising jew

u got confused because you thought you are reading literature. the bible speaks in parables

walls01:
u got confused because you thought you are reading literature. the bible speaks in parables

Hmm wake up

MrMontella:
the bible is a collection of human written books.

yes, but are inspired by a spirit being. in my village my uncle can tell people their problem, he can also recite and command big objects into a tiny bottle. he is a man but something is inspiring him

Jokerman:
What rubbish is this?

Lol. I am not knowing oo

Believe in him and continue to sin or believe in him and hate sin?

NamieNamie:
What make you say God is good when he is revengeful, full of hate and wants you to burn in hell for not believing in him? God is hate.

And what will one make one say you or your father is a good person when you punish your kids accordingly when they go against your rules?

Melchizedek1:
Hmm wake up

everyone has right to choose and believe what he want. everyone is answerable to his conscience only, that is why the Bible do not force anyone to believe in it.

don't thing you are awake and others are sleeping we all have short comings and no one is 100% correct. humans need each other for anything close to 100%

walls01:
u got confused because you thought you are reading literature. the bible speaks in parables

Mehn... so your ultimate defense is that the bible speaks in parables?

Who told you that? your pastor?

Please come up with a better argument because this one is fallacious.

maamisco:
lie lie n fake religion..... Jesus is not a son of a God. He was created by God like Adams n Eve. confused people. Thank u

Though he was in the form of God, Jesus did not count equality with God, a thing to be grasped Phil 2:6

MrMontella:
logic is what keeps you alive, everyday.

yes, but cannot answer so many question. hear is one why do you think the earth rotates slowly and never stops?

nanizle:
@OP the earlier you wake up from your delusions the better for your well being. You'll live a more peaceful life if you leave religion... No demons to be afraid of, no mammy water to fear, no hell to be terrified of, no 10% religion tax.

Religion is playing a lesser role in developed societies, the same societies that shoved their religion down our fore-fathers throats and made them abandon their traditional religion while enslaving and colonizing them.

Now you are here carrying Christianity like it's your birthright.

Try study a bit of history and religion and you'll see that religion is simply a man-made tool with the sole purpose of to controlling the masses... to tell you what to do without question and to profit those at the helm of affairs. Religion achieves this by majorly instilling fear on followers. Threatening fire and brimstone for those who disobey and promising "heaven and everlasting life" if they obey.

But I do understand where you're coming from. You're coming from a position of being heavily and mercilessly indoctrinated leading to your delusions, so much indoctrination that you believe that all those who don't believe what you believe (muslims, jews, hindus, traditionalists, atheists etc... yep all of them, billions of them ironically created by the same God) are destined for eternal suffering in a lake of fire.

The even more ironic thing is that your fellow religions believe the same ridiculous thing.. eternal damnation for unbelievers.

So who will make the so called "heaven"? (this reminds me of one thread... I'll try find it).

Whose religion is true and which is false? (spare me your biblical quotes as your fellow religions to have similar quotes, equally infallible

All religions can't be obviously right at the same time. So you see it would be reasonable that they are all wrong.

Your wish or fact? That different versions of a product exist does not mean none is original.

walls01:
yes, but are inspired by a spirit being. in my village my uncle can tell people their problem, he can also recite and command big objects into a tiny bottle. he is a man but something is inspiring him

inspired by awe of nature and the universe, not a being.

don't make me show you the countless errors in your Bible supposedly inspired by God himself.

Darcy oake, also brings bird cages out of thin air, and turn birds into girls...its called magic; tricks and illusions.

walls01:
everyone has right to choose and believe what he want. everyone is answerable to his conscience only, that is why the Bible do not force anyone to believe in it.

don't thing you are awake and others are sleeping we all have short comings and no one is 100% correct. humans need each other for anything close to 100%

you have the right to believe any rubbish you want to believe

just don't come out in public to claim your belief is true; once you violate that, your belief would be subjected to scrutiny and if found wanting (like Christianity Islam and Judaism etc) would be ridiculed and rightly so

Hh

walls01:
yes, but cannot answer so many question. hear is one why do you think the earth rotates slowly and never stops?

gravity, All things in space spin ,/spin on their axis.
gravity conserves the momentum by revolving the earth around a larger body with a greater pull of gravity.

Mpanyi:
And what will one make one say you or your father is a good person when you punish your kids accordingly when they go against your rules?

Please clarify the kind of punishment you are referring to because beating kids with a cane and setting kids on fire for eternity are quite different although I support neither.

nanizle:
Mehn... so your ultimate defense is that the bible speaks in parables?
Who told you that? your pastor?
Please come up with a better argument because this one is fallacious.

yes when the prophets dream they don't see things like everyday way. Jesus said eat my flesh and drink my blood what do you think he means

The only Person that Prophesied the coming of Jesus Christ was Prophet Malachi in Malachi 3 vs 1-3 and Malachi even Prophesied him as a Messenger of God n not Son of God and also in DEUTERONMY 18 VS 15 -18 where Moses Predicted the coming of a Prophet like him.Jesus was called Prophet of God in Luke 18 vs 14-18, He was called Servant of God in Acts 3 vs 22-26,He was called God in John 1 vs 1,He was called Son of God in Matthew 8 vs 29,he was called Son of Man in Matthew 16 vs 13 and was also called Human Being in 1 timothy 2 vs 5,My Brother pls which one should we now believe ? I will use Bible to prove it to u that Jesus was neither Crucified nor buried